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 Yamaha AVR Thread v2.00, Discussions about Yamaha AVR

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htkaki
post Sep 21 2009, 11:17 PM

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The hefty tax and duty are too much of a burden.

Those driving supercars are filthy rich since the tax is as high as 300%
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post Sep 21 2009, 11:23 PM

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Maybe all the tax went to them? tongue.gif
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post Sep 21 2009, 11:37 PM

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For super elite 300% is like kacang
like my big boss's car
one year road tax can buy a MyVi oredi doh.gif

of coz some got lubang
no need to pay tax at all cool2.gif
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post Sep 22 2009, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(robinlim @ Sep 21 2009, 11:37 PM)
For super elite 300% is like kacang
like my big boss's car
one year road tax can buy a MyVi oredi doh.gif

of coz some got lubang
no need to pay tax at all cool2.gif
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My boss Bentley road tax only 19k per year. And that's a 2 mil car. What car your boss drive that have 50k road tax per year? I never heard before. Ferrari FXX? whistling.gif
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post Sep 22 2009, 11:18 PM

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Probably, co reg car as the tax is way higher.

I think that another Yamaha 1800 owner here will be jumping ship to 'Sky Dragon' camp. My bad......
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post Sep 23 2009, 10:55 AM

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Added on September 23, 2009, 11:01 am
QUOTE(kianwee @ Sep 21 2009, 02:49 PM)
Guys... how much is the Z7?
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auditioned at desa kepong recently, was quoted rm9k+. didn't bargain since not impressed compared onk 906. z7 runs real hot.

z11 probably costs rm16k.

This post has been edited by aquest: Sep 23 2009, 11:04 AM
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post Sep 23 2009, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(attentional @ Sep 22 2009, 10:28 AM)
My boss Bentley road tax only 19k per year. And that's a 2 mil car. What car your boss drive that have 50k road tax per year? I never heard before. Ferrari FXX?  whistling.gif
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Bentley also
r u sure the road tax is only 19k?
coz I saw myself the road tax disc on his car windscreen stated near 40k
can buy the lowest spec of MyVI sweat.gif
moomoos
post Sep 23 2009, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(robinlim @ Sep 23 2009, 11:03 AM)
Bentley also
r u sure the road tax is only 19k?
coz I saw myself the road tax disc on his car windscreen stated near 40k
can buy the lowest spec of MyVI sweat.gif
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est 19k for half year road tax against your est 40k... then it make sense biggrin.gif
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post Sep 26 2009, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(moomoos @ Sep 23 2009, 11:35 AM)
est 19k for half year road tax against your est 40k... then it make sense biggrin.gif
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All the sifus here,

I've RX-V863 .

I've tried to set up my front channels using separate power amp. I've tried a few power amp, and every time after hooking up the power amp, and using the Yamaha auto setup, the result will be front speaker "out of phase" !

I check the manual, and it says: "Speaker polarity is not correct. This message may appear depending on the speakers even when the speakers are connected correctly" mad.gif mad.gif

What's that means huh? I'm sure that I've connected the speakers correctly. So, what's the solution? Yamaha manual says even if connected correctly, the error message might appear rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

What should I do huh? Do I need to do anything if I'm sure I've connected the speakers correctly and ignore the message?

Very confusing message doh.gif doh.gif I've even changed to different front speakers to try out, and the error message is there..

If I don't use the power amp, and use the AV amp speakers output, then it's always ok.

Any sifus here experience this before?

This post has been edited by billyngcam: Sep 26 2009, 06:59 PM
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post Sep 26 2009, 07:06 PM

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Try swapping the +ve and -ve at the speaker terminals. Do this to only one speaker.
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post Sep 26 2009, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Sep 26 2009, 07:06 PM)
Try swapping the +ve and -ve at the speaker terminals. Do this to only one speaker.
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Doing that will solve the problem... but, it's not correct I think... because all the connection I've checked 100 times, and it's 100% correct..

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QUOTE(billyngcam @ Sep 26 2009, 07:08 PM)
Doing that will solve the problem... but, it's not correct I think... because all the connection I've checked 100 times, and it's 100% correct..
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Yes, that's why it says "even when the speakers are connected correctly" in the manual. It should be OK as long as it's correctly in-phase.

Can try to troubleshoot further by using a different interconnect between the AVR and the power amp. Maybe the cables faulty.
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post Sep 28 2009, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(billyngcam @ Sep 26 2009, 06:57 PM)
All the sifus here,

I've RX-V863 .

I've tried to set up my front channels using separate power amp. I've tried a few power amp, and every time after hooking up the power amp, and using the Yamaha auto setup, the result will be front speaker "out of phase" !

I check the manual, and it says:  "Speaker polarity is not correct. This message may appear depending on the speakers even when the speakers are connected correctly" mad.gif  mad.gif

What's that means huh? I'm sure that I've connected the speakers correctly. So, what's the solution? Yamaha manual says even if connected correctly, the error message might appear rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

What should I do huh? Do I need to do anything if I'm sure I've connected the speakers correctly and ignore the message?

Very confusing message doh.gif  doh.gif  I've even changed to different front speakers to try out, and the error message is there..

If I don't use the power amp, and use the AV amp speakers output, then it's always ok.

Any sifus here experience this before?
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mine happen too, re-tighten the biding post, redo few times then ok,

if you are sure that the connections are correct.....
just uncheck (untick) the wiring before doing auto speaker calibration. think its firmware bug. biggrin.gif


Added on September 28, 2009, 4:18 pmone more weird think to check,
are all your plugs to your power amps correct... i mean "live-neutral-earth" thingy??
maybe yours is US amp .... the power plugs are "reversed"

This post has been edited by moomoos: Sep 28 2009, 04:21 PM
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post Sep 28 2009, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(moomoos @ Sep 28 2009, 04:11 PM)
mine happen too, re-tighten the biding post, redo few times then ok,

if you are sure that the connections are correct.....
just uncheck (untick) the wiring before doing auto speaker calibration. think its firmware bug. biggrin.gif


Added on September 28, 2009, 4:18 pmone more weird think to check,
are all your plugs to your power amps correct... i mean "live-neutral-earth" thingy??
maybe yours is US amp .... the power plugs are "reversed"
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hi moomoos,

Thanks..

What do u mean "untick" the wiring? In setup menu?

by the way, did you connect to power amp directly? or do you connect through another pre-amp then to power amp ?

Really confuse lah.. rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by billyngcam: Sep 28 2009, 04:44 PM
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post Sep 29 2009, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(billyngcam @ Sep 28 2009, 04:43 PM)
hi moomoos,

Thanks..

What do u mean "untick" the wiring? In setup menu?

by the way, did you connect to power amp directly? or do you connect through another pre-amp then to power amp ?

Really confuse lah.. rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif
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i am only using the amp feeding 7.1 channels directly

under the auto setup, > setup menu > you have

- distance
- equalising
- wiring << just untick this in the check-box
- Multipoint measure
- level


Added on September 29, 2009, 10:57 pmbefore doing the YPAO, crank up the volume ( i put mine to -20 ) i find it gives a better calibration when volume is higher

the higher you crank up the volume before calibration,
the level of your speakers will be adjusted lower, so during actual usage your normal volume should be about -25 to -35

example only...( ideal balance left right case)

1- AVR vol at -15 b4 YPAO ~~~~ after calibration done L spk level +1, R spk +1, sur R +2 sur L +2

2- AVR vol at -35 b4 YPAO ~~~~ after calibration done L spk level +6, R spk +6, sur R +7 sur L +7

what i mean is if you still want to adjust the speaker level higher manually for (No 2) you cant do much, further more if your adjusted speaker level is at No 2, even your AVR knob vol at -40 to some people at normal listening is considered very loud already.

so the more you crank up volume for YPAO, the louder the burst, more accurate for MIC signal pick up.....

sorry for the lenghty explanation biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by moomoos: Sep 29 2009, 10:57 PM
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post Oct 5 2009, 09:29 PM

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Im no sifu but u can check your sub woofer. Reverse it in the speaker manual setup or if your woofer comes with a switch/button to reverse the phase, just do it there and run the test again.

own a Yammy 465 which drive my Wharfedale 9.1, 9.cc and WH210.

cheers...
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post Oct 5 2009, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(moomoos @ Sep 29 2009, 10:36 PM)
i am only using the amp feeding 7.1 channels directly

under the auto setup, > setup menu > you have

- distance
- equalising
- wiring << just untick this in the check-box         
- Multipoint measure
- level


Added on September 29, 2009, 10:57 pmbefore doing the YPAO, crank up the volume ( i put mine to -20 ) i find it gives a better calibration when volume is higher

the higher you crank up the volume before calibration,
the level of your speakers will be adjusted lower, so during actual usage your normal volume should be about -25 to -35

example only...( ideal balance left right case)

1- AVR vol at -15 b4 YPAO ~~~~ after calibration done L spk level +1, R spk +1, sur R +2 sur L +2

2- AVR vol at -35 b4 YPAO ~~~~ after calibration done L spk level +6, R spk +6, sur R +7 sur L +7

what i mean is if you still want to adjust the speaker level higher manually for (No 2) you cant do much, further more if your adjusted speaker level is at No 2, even your AVR knob vol at -40 to some people at normal listening is considered very loud already.

so the more you crank up volume for YPAO, the louder the burst, more accurate for MIC signal pick up.....

sorry for the lenghty explanation biggrin.gif
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Thanks sifu!
Strange enough, after moving the mic 1 feet higher, even without changing any wire, the result was ok liao!! blink.gif blink.gif
Very blur!
But anyway, I'm happy now. nod.gif nod.gif

Thanks again!

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QUOTE(billyngcam @ Oct 5 2009, 10:11 PM)
Thanks sifu!
Strange enough, after moving the mic 1 feet higher, even without changing any wire, the result was ok liao!! blink.gif  blink.gif
Very blur!
But anyway, I'm happy now.  nod.gif  nod.gif

Thanks again!
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strange indeed. Your mic should level with your ear or listening height. I use a camera tripod to setup the exact location where I seat.

My 2 cents idea suggest that your woofer would still out of phase hence putting the mic 1ft higher fix it, but that is not your listening position. So, I would suggest to reverse the phase of your sub to or else there could be some freq missing around your Xover freg range.

Just my 2 cents though...
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post Oct 6 2009, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(tracktion3 @ Oct 5 2009, 11:37 PM)
strange indeed. Your mic should level with your ear or listening height. I use a camera tripod to setup the exact location where I seat.

My 2 cents idea suggest that your woofer would still out of phase hence putting the mic 1ft higher fix it, but that is not your listening position. So, I would suggest to reverse the phase of your sub to or else there could be some freq missing around your Xover freg range.

Just my 2 cents though...
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in the report, only front speakers are out of phase. other speakers set are all ok.

but last night, I tried putting the mic to normal position again, it was ok liao...

strange!!

the only thing I change during setup is the volume .... before, I think the before auto setup, my volume was around -20 to -25db . but now I set to -10 db for setup..

but, during setting, I thought regardless of what volume you might have, the system has a standard volume to send out test tone right?

ahhhh, confuse blush.gif blush.gif
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Sorry, I would like to ask, where is Yamaha service centre in Klang Valley?
My receiver, can not be on/powered up for quite some time now, thinking to bring it up for repair though.

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