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 ★★★ PROTON WAJA Club V6 ★★★

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swk_sam
post Nov 24 2009, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(squareballs @ Nov 24 2009, 04:58 PM)
I've asked kentgoh, 5 sets rm250 each..

However, i still don't trust that cheap price.. Too cheap to believe..

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I had read an article for imitation Pivot. Fake thing without "K" on top of 4 cylinder. Genuine product all with the "K" mark... unless that seller post original product photo but different actual product. This product can get at RM150 cos its on promotion, its one of a sales tactic biggrin.gif I will check out soon, will update later. When saw the actual product only we can differentiate it. If can save RM100 more room for car to upgrade. tongue.gif Tactic of sales... I in sales & marketing line.. so I know the sales tactic.. In sales sometime earn RM1 also we gotta release biggrin.gif Hope you guys can get my message I wanna pass on. : notworthy.gif

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sam.. i heard that zaptor vs isnt too bad. cheap la. haha. if wanna bulk let me know k. i'm interested too.

aiyo but i wanna get k&n also. if get vs gotta forgo airfilter. :S


For Waja, VS more important than k&n for my opinion, cos what i know, stock Waja had a bad grounding build up, so get VS 1st.

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Hi all waja-ian,

I am planning to buy a 2nd waja 1.8 but convert to mivec engine ady.

From what i know, the waja 1.8 engine is using renault engine. Out of the engine itself, does it have any other different between 1.6 model and 1.8 model? E.g Lower arm, absorber or etc.. ??

Please advise


For my opinion, moded engine giving much headache cos I experience before... Better get a stock waja. biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by swk_sam: Nov 24 2009, 09:51 PM
b48753
post Nov 25 2009, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(squareballs @ Nov 24 2009, 04:58 PM)
I've asked kentgoh, 5 sets rm250 each..

However, i still don't trust that cheap price.. Too cheap to believe..

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If you need an assurance for this genuine Pivot, better get it from Eneos.
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post Nov 25 2009, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(nayte @ Nov 24 2009, 08:16 PM)
sam.. i heard that zaptor vs isnt too bad. cheap la. haha. if wanna bulk let me know k. i'm interested too.

aiyo but i wanna get k&n also. if get vs gotta forgo airfilter. :S


Added on November 24, 2009, 8:16 pmwho's eOlee? lol
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eOlee was my friend's id, he use my computer and forgot to log off, me not knowing about his log in, accidentally post in here, sorry
btw, what is VS?
b48753
post Nov 25 2009, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(jolipoli81 @ Nov 25 2009, 08:33 AM)
eOlee was my friend's id, he use my computer and forgot to log off, me not knowing about his log in, accidentally post in here, sorry
btw, what is VS?
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VS=Voltage Stabilizer.
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post Nov 25 2009, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(swk_sam @ Nov 24 2009, 09:40 PM)
For my opinion, moded engine giving much headache cos I experience before... Better get a stock waja. biggrin.gif
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Thank u for ur reply.. I think mivec engine shud not b problem as it can juz direct transplant to waja without modify mounting...

But, juz want to know out of the engine itself, what is the different between 1.6 and 1.8 model?


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post Nov 25 2009, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(c0la @ Nov 25 2009, 08:58 AM)
Thank u for ur reply.. I think mivec engine shud not b problem as it can juz direct transplant to waja without modify mounting...

But, juz want to know out of the engine itself, what is the different between 1.6 and 1.8 model?
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Ya, no mod to mounting needed, but sure need to mod something. If not done nicely, then u regret, all is about luck. 1.8 FC sweat.gif ... maintenance fee not sure biggrin.gif


Added on November 25, 2009, 9:51 amnayte, how your trunk hook lock screw? Change edi?

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post Nov 25 2009, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(b48753 @ Nov 25 2009, 08:32 AM)
If you need an assurance for this genuine Pivot, better get it from Eneos.
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He will come post some pictures soon.. Eneos i have no faith in their workers.. yawn.gif
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post Nov 25 2009, 12:47 PM

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Genuine pivot raizin VS-E in new packing since end of year 2008. Genuine Pivot VS positive with red connector housing and negative with blue connector housing.

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Genuine pivot with deep and clear "K" marking below capacitor and only genuine pivot have serial number laser printing. (Laser printing sticker only available at new batch Pivot which blue and black packing.)

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High quality and tidy grounding cable with pure cooper connector, Genuine pivot connector are easy bent due to pure copper material inside.

Sample for imitation pivot.
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Most imitation pivot positive connector with red connector housing but negative with black connector housing.

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Pivot definitely will update their website if they launch new products.

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Low quality and untidy grounding cable, single layer copper cable fast oxidize.

What you pay what you get, get from pivot authorized dealer is the most safety way. Please check my reputation before purchase parts from me.

This post has been edited by Kent Goh: Nov 25 2009, 12:55 PM
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post Nov 25 2009, 12:50 PM

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There he is, Don't worry Kent, all my car spare parts are from you.. Will visit you soon..


Added on November 25, 2009, 12:54 pmBulk buy for K&N or other parts can ask him directly here.. Easy

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Kent Goh
post Nov 25 2009, 01:02 PM

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Nowadays there is too much imitation pivot in market, i have no time to show the different and most my customer which get fake pivot i really dunno how to tell them the true.
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post Nov 25 2009, 01:10 PM

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NOTICE OF FAKE RAIZIN
It has come to our knowledge that fake RAIZINs are widely distributed in the South East Asia regions especially in Singapore, and we are also concerned that these imitations are being distributed via online auctions. We will take legal action against wholesalers and retailers of these imitation goods.


Attention:1 The fake goods have poor quality that could lead to car malfunction.
2 The fake goods are not guaranteed at all. No claims and returns are accepted.
3 We may claim the shipping charges if imitation items are sent for checking and servicing.


Please purchase the PIVOT products from our authorized dealers to ensure that you get the genuine item.

In order to ensure that our customers do not get deceived, we wish to inform them of the several ways to distinguish the imitation RAIZIN (VS-1/VS-E) from the genuine items are per following pictures.

**************Genuine*************vs************* Imitation*************
user posted image user posted image
1.Check the marking on the condensers.
The genuine PIVOT has a "K" marking, while the imitation has a "+" marking.


**************Genuine*************vs************* Imitation*************
user posted image user posted image
2.Check the printing on the fuses.
The genuine PIVOT has a clear "15" print, while the imitation has no clear printing on the fuses.


**************Genuine*************vs************* Imitation*************
user posted image user posted image
3.Check the production lot sticker on the bottom of the box.
The genuine PIVOT have the production lot sticker.


Here are some info.. biggrin.gif brows.gif

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post Nov 25 2009, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(swk_sam @ Nov 25 2009, 01:10 PM)
NOTICE OF FAKE RAIZIN
It has come to our knowledge that fake RAIZINs are widely distributed in the South East Asia regions especially in Singapore, and we are also concerned that these imitations are being distributed via online auctions. We will take legal action against wholesalers and retailers of these imitation goods.
Attention:1  The fake goods have poor quality that could lead to car malfunction.
2 The fake goods are not guaranteed at all. No claims and returns are accepted.
3 We may claim the shipping charges if imitation items are sent for checking and servicing.
Please purchase the PIVOT products from our authorized dealers to ensure that you get the genuine item.

In order to ensure that our customers do not get deceived, we wish to inform them of the several ways to distinguish the imitation RAIZIN (VS-1/VS-E) from the genuine items are per following pictures.

**************Genuine*************vs************* Imitation*************
user posted image  user posted image
1.Check the marking on the condensers.
The genuine PIVOT has a "K" marking, while the imitation has a "+" marking.
**************Genuine*************vs************* Imitation*************
user posted image  user posted image
2.Check the printing on the fuses.
The genuine PIVOT has a clear "15" print, while the imitation has no clear printing on the fuses.
**************Genuine*************vs************* Imitation*************
user posted image  user posted image
3.Check the production lot sticker on the bottom of the box.
The genuine PIVOT have the production lot sticker.
Here are some info.. biggrin.gif  brows.gif
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When china mali manufacturers see this, i feel they will make it even closer to the original products..
Thanks for the info sam.. nod.gif
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post Nov 25 2009, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(squareballs @ Nov 25 2009, 01:12 PM)
When china mali manufacturers see this, i feel they will make it even closer to the original products..
Thanks for the info sam..  nod.gif
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They surely faster2 make the imitation same as original..

Wow.. Thanks sam.. The VS definitely looks very tasting.. drool.gif
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QUOTE(squareballs @ Nov 25 2009, 01:12 PM)
When china mali manufacturers see this, i feel they will make it even closer to the original products..
Thanks for the info sam..  nod.gif
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No they wont, if just because few wording they also copy exactly, they will earn less. Y? Cos the component hard to imitate cos the marking is done when manufacture. The china man just oem all the parts. They won't manufacture them self cos very costly. So won't be 100% same as genuine. biggrin.gif Just base on my experience. Imitation products mean for high profit margin cos no R&D needed. laugh.gif

On wording sometime hard to explain cos a lot to mention. If got time go out yamcha I will explain further more why I say that. rolleyes.gif tongue.gif

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post Nov 25 2009, 01:21 PM

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I'm waiting for the bulk buy for Pivot vs and grounding..
but who wants my Zaptor and altenator groounding..


Added on November 25, 2009, 1:22 pm
QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Nov 24 2009, 12:15 PM)
Since I have back to my hometown(Ipoh) and without any Performance exhaust shop around , do you think it's alrite to de-cat with any cap ayam mid-box or bullet ?
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Do you want to try my matola mid box? Letting it go very very cheap.. tongue.gif

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im working closely with IP( intelectual property) thingy...believe me...normally they will copycat onli 80% from the original-its the nature of copycat-ing...imagine,factory A build i-phone ori...factory B which is neighbour wif factory A building the imitation 1...u cannot stop them from copycat-ing..just buy the ori 1...can claim everything from A to Z.. nod.gif
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post Nov 25 2009, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(R.Y.D.E.C.K @ Nov 25 2009, 01:27 PM)
im working closely with IP( intelectual property) thingy...believe me...normally they will copycat onli 80% from the original-its the nature of copycat-ing...imagine,factory A build i-phone ori...factory B which is neighbour wif factory A building the imitation 1...u cannot stop them from copycat-ing..just buy the ori 1...can claim everything from A to Z.. nod.gif
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Yeah, rydeck explained what I meant... There will be some details they won't manage to copy cos is costly tongue.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(squareballs @ Nov 25 2009, 01:21 PM)
I'm waiting for the bulk buy for Pivot vs and grounding..
but who wants my Zaptor and altenator groounding..


Added on November 25, 2009, 1:22 pm

Do you want to try my matola mid box? Letting it go very very cheap..  tongue.gif
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Balls, count me in for the VS and grounding bulk purchase.

Matola midbox? Ok ah? sweat.gif
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post Nov 25 2009, 02:39 PM

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VS and grounding seems tempting. My bulbs burns out quite often, would VS help?
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Think so but might wiring problem.

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