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post Oct 10 2009, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(ykmy @ Oct 10 2009, 02:26 AM)
hi, any1 change meter bulb?
use t5 or t10?
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I have changed mine but in Proton service center though so not too sure about T5 or T10 but there're charging below ten bucks for it. Pretty resonable I must say.
Have a look at this car , everything is just so fine ! http://www.mudah.my/Waja-1.6-4066147.htm
What's a Hydro Booster anyway ?

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post Oct 10 2009, 05:43 PM

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Just bought myself K&N Filter instead of changing my exhaust system , right after installation , the engine feels light and wanna rev all the time. Definitely recommended.

But I broke one of my Clip that snaps and holds the filter in between. Replacing will cost me around seventy bucks, sigh.
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post Oct 10 2009, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(oHkereD @ Oct 10 2009, 06:15 PM)
What kind of K&N Air Filter you change? Where did you bought? Mind share with me? I'm having thoughts of changing the air filter too but have no idea which are reasonable.
Show me some pictures too tongue.gif notworthy.gif
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I think there's two types of K&N Filter only right ? Mine one is Drop-in filter. I bought it from a forumer here and I can say quite a good deal.

If you're using Manual and looking to get the best performance , go for Open pod with profer heat shield else just stick with Drop In type. Price should range around Rm275 to Rm300. biggrin.gif

Definitely recommended to upgrade your stock filter to K&N.
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post Oct 10 2009, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(yngwie @ Oct 10 2009, 06:40 PM)
just service the car's TB about a month ago. after 2nd refill with bhp's ron95, i noticed the car pick up from standstill
is not as smooth but pick up after 1.8k rpm is better than other brand of ron95. take out the TB, clean it up again and the acceleration
is back to normal again.


Added on October 10, 2009, 6:46 pm

you are not alone. bhp's ron95 does perform better than other brand of ron95. more power under lower rpm but my rpm needle just refuse to go beyond
3.8k rpm  sweat.gif  it takes ages to reach 4k rpm using shell's ron95 but no such problem with ron97.
btw, bhp's ron95  gives an extra mileage too!
just make to check the throttle body more often.
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How do you guys clean the tb ? Any manuals of photos to share ?
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post Oct 11 2009, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(nayte @ Oct 11 2009, 12:06 AM)
hey bro i thought u had exhaust system modded already? how much u got your drop in for? lol.
hmm 275-300 for open pod including heat shield and CAI ah? or just the filter only?


Added on October 11, 2009, 12:10 am
bhp vs caltex.. u'd rather go for bhp? lol. i heard caltex 95 isnt too bad too. im thinking of switching also. shell 95 really tak boleh lah. no power, no mileage -.-
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Nope , intially thought of taking out the cat-converter and replaced with a Mid Box but then I were going to Pavillion that day and it's pretty late when I came back.
I got my drop in for three hundred bucks. The 275-300 is for drop in filter. Not really sure about open pod though , must be the same with Drop in filter but considering the cost for CAI hose and heat sheild , you'll spend extra hundred to two hundred at least.

It's recommended to get the K&N , feels so light after I changed mine. drool.gif
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post Oct 11 2009, 10:17 PM

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I guess they have increased their price to Rm275 onwards for Proton Waja.

Can you guys recommend me a skillful and resonable price - accessories shop to rewrap my steering ?
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QUOTE(Xai-V-iaX @ Oct 12 2009, 06:59 PM)
Guys, need your opinions. I own a 2005 Waja 4G18 (M). Have thus far done approx 115,00 KM. Have so far replaced, timing belt, all other belts, A/C Compressor, Alternator, Drive Shaft (Drive side), twice changed absorbers since the original and have for the majority been serviced with Fully Synthethic Engine Oil.

I'm feeling the engine is feeling kiknda loose of late and getting very noisy. I have identified the Radiator Fan being faulty and have deicided to change it in my next service which is just around the corner. Planning to get my timing belt replaced as well, since noticed there's been some recent slips in it while on running condition.

My question would be: There car has been very noisy of late with loads of cranking sounds. I suspect that I mite need to replace my engine mountings. The engine tho is very responsive due lack the power it once used to churn out. Do you feel my Waja would need an overhaul?
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Could those lost of power and noisy sound due to the Fully Synthetic oil you using ? I heard that 4G18 is not really that suitable to use thin oils.

QUOTE(mosh @ Oct 12 2009, 07:46 PM)
bros..

im helping my bro to choose an auto 2nd hand car. between a Black Gen2 and black/burgundy? color waja. both of the car is yr 04 and have almost the same value plus minus somewhere between 30k +++

driving wise 50% city 50% hgway.
which u recon for FC wise ? as i have a minimal experience driving those two cars..

i recon to him the black gen2 cuz looks sporty,suit his age & gud handling but dunno if there any reason that he shud choose a waja over gen2 ?

i've posted this too inside gen2 thread.. its just like, as am older brother, i felt like i need to advise him and i dun want my bro to gamble on 2nd hand car. yet, i have minimal experience in driving waja or gen2.  he is 24, get wedd next year, and purchasing new car is still expensive..  its better to get decent 1.6 2nd hand four door than entry level saga with the same market price..
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I have no experience with Gen 2 , but if you belive Campro engine , then go ahead else just advise your brother to get Proton Waja with the Mitsubishi engine. I have been running 150k+ mileage without any major problem. Only changed timing belt once at 90k , both fan ( air con and radiator ) and power steering pump.

When getting an used car from car dealer , remember bring your mechanic along or drive to your mechanic to have a look whether the car is worth buying or not. smile.gif
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post Oct 15 2009, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(matt wee @ Oct 15 2009, 07:33 PM)
Hi all waja owner there,does anyone here face the same problem with me after change to metal window assembly?

after changed to metal one...i found out many sound come out la even at low rpm to high rpm and all the time i driving my car..can hear some metal hit metal sound...any way to solve this problem?

And

How to remove original waja rear speaker?
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I bet most of them face this problem as myself facing this problem aswell.

Solution ? Changed all of it to metal window frame/motor and do sound proof/deadening. smile.gif

Anyone know where I can send my TB for cleaning ? Although everyone saying that it's quite easy but still no experience yet. Please help.

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post Oct 19 2009, 09:09 PM

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B48753 , mind share a larger resolution picture of your ride and share what you have modify and been through with your car ?
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post Oct 22 2009, 10:07 PM

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Yea , please share it b48753 , we'll more than happy to hear your stories for do's and dont's.

What's your most regreted mod so far ?
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QUOTE(b48753 @ Oct 24 2009, 11:53 AM)
I'm also planning for pro-rs brake hose.how much did u brought last time?
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Did you change to a better brake pad before considering changing the brake hose ? I feel a little reluctant changing the brake hose as if there's any problem with it , it's going to take life.

Initially I went to tyre shop to swap the front tyre to the rear and do allignment and wheel balancing together but the mechanic over there took a test drive before he do the allignment and said that the Steering "bush"/"rubber" was worn out which he use a torchlight pointing it to the steering "rack"/"sub" which in the engine bay to show that it were loose , so no choice but to replaced the worn one with 2 new rubber. Before he finish to replaced the 2 rubber , one fella came over and said that the Engine mounting was broken and cracked in another one which again , doesn't have any choices but to get it replaced.

After they have done everything and I was going to leave , I engaged into D and waiting for the traffic lights to turn green and to my dismay , the steering vibrates much more comparing to the broken engine mounting and I was forced to U-turn back and ask them about it. If I'm not mistaken , they said they'll try loosen the screw and re-tighten it and see if it helps. Although it doesn't vibrates as much as before but still you can feel the vibration with D engaged and brake being pressed during idling. Since the shop were closing and they're rushing going back , they also said that try a few days and see if the vibration will be still there.

I'm not sure about the others , but despite spended a small fortune and the time taken , I'm pretty much unstatisfied with it.



Since I'm not quite statisfy with the outcome , I would really like to know could the vibration due to the new mounting which the rubber haven't seals in properly ? or It is caused by the cheap engine mounting ? FYI . It's only around sixty plus for each of them and they changed two mounting only instead of four.
Would really like to hear from you all. smile.gif
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QUOTE(yngwie @ Oct 26 2009, 08:44 PM)
@Andy0625@
from my experience, all of the engine mounting have to be replaced in one shot. else, as the other 2 older engine mounting crack, the vibration may become more and more unbearable...
depending on the brand, but the side(l/r) one is more expensive(may cost about 50% more) than the front / rear.

@b48753@
the steel braided hose seem to settle my spongy brake problem too.
btw, am on bendix metal king titanium brake pad and i noticed it bites the disc faster than my old lousy mintex pad  sweat.gif
now, my mechanic advice me to either upgrade to 2 pots or go for disc skimming  sweat.gif
or perhaps,  buying a performance disc that fit to the stock brake system as a replacement will be just fine!


Added on October 26, 2009, 8:50 pm@nayte@
10-40w. you can either use mineral(5k), semi synt(7k) or fully synth(10k); depending on the mileage...
i am on shell hx7. so far so good. but since am no longer filling up with shell, might try elf on my next change...
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Thanks for your reply , yngwie.

Since they have put in those chapalang Engine mounting for the Up and Down side , is it okay if I get the better ones ( TE Engine Mounting ) which is selling in LYN here for the Left anf Right ? I can seriously feel the engine vibration when D engaged with brake pressed. ( Complete stop ) sad.gif Before they changed , even the cracked one never produce any vibration , just that the steering wont turn back to original position during U turn.

Anyway , How much you bought for the 1.8 twin exhaust ? I thought of going to de-cat next month but the engine mounting giving problems.. blush.gif We'll see how later. drool.gif
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post Oct 27 2009, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(b48753 @ Oct 27 2009, 10:46 AM)
Not so sure bout TE brand..but anyway if using original (proton) engine mounting it totals up RM 250 without installation. Shop will charge around RM80 for installation.
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Here's the link to the TE Mounting thread.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1071616&hl=
It looks reliable and durable.

Any idea if Proton SC will charge for service charge for installing the mounting which get from them ?
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QUOTE(yngwie @ Oct 27 2009, 06:49 PM)
@loong2020@
thanks for the head up, bro. i always mixed up the term.
your pblm could be caused by the waja floater strange behaviour. try driving further and see if you could cover at least another 350km...  tongue.gif
i seldom refill full btw. always maintain at 2/3. this case, the car doesn't feel so heavy.
don't wait till the fuel warning light is turn on prior to every refill. waja fuel pump is very sensitive.
fuel pump could last over 5 years on proper usage(refer to above).
how fast were you driving?

@Andy0625@
steering vibration only or dashboard vibration too? have you service you steering pump lately?
any brand should be almost identical to the oem one. as long as they give you the warranty / good workmanship, i guess should be ok.  icon_rolleyes.gif

the ori twin exhaust was given to me by my friend when he upgraded his twintip mivec to the bigger one.
mainly for cosmetic purpose cuz' i didn't feel any noticeable different in performance.
kinda tempted to change my cat-con too. i saw one non-welded type in rimus brand but it cost quite a lot sweat.gif

@nayte@
HERE you go  tongue.gif
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There's rattle sound from the dashboard , but it doesn't vibrate like earthquake though. changed the steering pump months ago in SC.

Anyway , I might be putting the mounting on hold and going for removing the cat-con , wanna go along ? biggrin.gif Maybe we can get cheaper price.
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QUOTE(yngwie @ Oct 27 2009, 09:43 PM)
@andy@
proper engine mounting change should settle the dashboard vibration.
i prefer those non-welded type mid box. i saw one in bandar tasik selatan. relatively unknown rimus brand already cost around 250 bucks.
where are you located at?
@cosmi@
starting up is above 10k and slightly below 10k after a while. you have to wait for the temp gauge to move to idle temp which is slightly under 100 degree
for optimum idle rpm.
btw, the usage of different type of engine oil; mineral, semi synth or full synth does affect the cold start up and idle temp.
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I'm located in Cyberjaya area , what about you ? Instead of going for the unknown Rimus brand , why dont we go for Topcat which is made by Everco , Sunway ? Price at Rm250 with instllation aswell. ( The last time I ask )

QUOTE(nayte @ Oct 27 2009, 10:07 PM)
haha not 10k la. 1k. tongue.gif

just changed all 4 abs. no more squeaky sound. smile.gif but a bit pricey tho. 138 for front and 75 for back abs issit normal price?
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What kind and brand of absorber you changed ? The price you paid for is pretty reasonable considering that it includes labour charge. I heard that A-Fuji brand that selling in Lyn by imperialics is not bad and cheaper a ill too.
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QUOTE(yngwie @ Oct 28 2009, 11:32 AM)
@Andy0625@
am staying in cheras. port somewhere in the mines.
does everco open during weekend cuz' am all tied up on weekdays ?
btw, i bought a set of stock front abs from imperialrealcs@alan before. i could say it was more comfortable than the oem which is of apm brand. and damn cheap too  tongue.gif
for fast cornering, tein adjustable is top notch but it sux' in our standard road condition with lotsa' potholes.
damn bumpy ride.
anyone has an experience with a comfortable adjustable suspension?
even mines and sustec soft setting is still not comfortable enough. no more ah beng ride for me  sweat.gif

btw, i could have 'd bought this WHEELS if not for the small spoke... sweat.gif
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So you're staying around there , and that's cool!
I met a road bully over there today which on the Flyover (whereby if you go straight below the flyover and make a U-turn you'll reach The Mines there) and I was damn angry about that fella which drives a Black color Honda City Number plate BGW 3327.

That time I was wondering which road to take to cheras as I'm paying attention to my GPS to double confirm and I was driving on the emengency lane of that Flyover. Since I'm paying attention to the GPS , I suddenly saw that there's a motocycle infront of me which I'm already quite near , so no choice but I need to slow down and cut into his lane. He doesn't seems want to let me cut into his lane which he keeps on accelerate trying to block me , unfortunately there's another motocycle following me at the back quite near , so I directly press hard on my accelerator and cut into his lane.

I saw that he's damn pissed off trying to cut me back from the left side and pushing me to the side of the wall. He even wind down his windows and showing a rod which he tries to slow down to do something with my car.


If it happens that guy to be your friend , please advise him dont be an as$hole. You think that you're the only one who have rods ? Infact I have more than 2 steel rods in my car. Although I might be young but please dont mess with me and stop being an as$hole.
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QUOTE(yngwie @ Oct 29 2009, 04:00 PM)
@Andy0625@
chill bro  cool2.gif the mines area is so big  tongue.gif  i know none of city by the plate of bgw3327. but am surely on the lookout when am coming over to there.
i am staying in cheras but always go to the mines 'yam cha' with buddy.
talking about bad road planning; actually, the road around the mines area is quite confusing. especially the one heading to cheras /serdang / the mines shopping fair. you could stay in your line and out of sudden, the line is dead and you're either force to stay in your line or cut into other road user's line  sweat.gif
btw, the highway that pass through the mines shopping fair to balakong is famous for ah beng racer at night. be careful!
some driver are really a pain in the a#%!

@kimiloh@
you may need to go for an atf change. i was having the same problem too. after an atf change, gear shift back to normal. if it was already more than 100k mileage, don't go for atf flusing cuz' it may end up damaging the worn out rubber seal inside. just an atf change will do.
and don't forget to clean up the throttle body more often!

@PowerSlide@
if your absorber is still working fine, changing the worn out absorber link may help. cost around 35 bucks / side for compatible and could be around 60 bucks for original oem proton. this way, no squeaking sound going over the bump.
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Thanks for the reply man and this is one of the factor that shows why Malaysia have such a high accident rate.
Anyway , interested to replaced the cat-con ? I'm also more free during weekends , maybe I should give Everco a call and ask them whether they're operating during weekends ?

or you would prefer changing your extractor ? I came across one seller selling his Zenden Chrome Extracor which already wrapped in thermal wrap for Rm180. Gimme a pm and I'll give you his contact. smile.gif

Any idea how to clean the TB ? I'm a total newbie when it comes to that. blush.gif

QUOTE(swk_sam @ Oct 29 2009, 07:38 PM)
I think you shud think of changing the cable plug & change engine oil brand u r using now.
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Should change spark plug cable and spark plug if it haven't been replaced or without any record. Air Filter too if it's dirty.
In addition , you could try changing to a lower viscosity engine oil like 10w-40 and those Fuel Injector cleaner treatment aswell.

One thing you must not be missed is your tire pressure , make sure it's in the correct range else it'll consume petrol like you're having right now and Please guys, enjoy your ride! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(zaidi @ Oct 29 2009, 11:37 PM)
throttle body (TB) is where the air is sucked in from air filter. there is stepper motor for air cond and 1 TPS. pic like this aaa
http://www.mudah.my/Waja-throtlle-body-4273403.htm

ask you mechanic to clean la. upah RM35 only. but say like this -
"abang, bwak turun throttle body, kasik cuci. spray elok-elok la. sensor pun cuci sekali. lepas tu, sembur sikit dalam manifold". your mech should clean with carb/TB-cleaner spray. no WD-40 here. if use by your mecha, fire him kaw-kaw.

after reassemble back everything, rev the engine to 5k++, for few mins. You will smell the hangit at the back as the carbon build up coming out.

then it's better to replace your spark plug RM30~ depend on your preference. then your idle will become high if the tb was from very dirty become clean ... ask your mech to adjust to 700-800. make sure test with air-cond on-off and radiator on-off also.
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Any recommended place to clean the TB ?
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QUOTE(zaidi @ Oct 30 2009, 10:26 AM)
smile.gif i should be collecting commission to introduce you guys to my mech smile.gif

if you are near equine Go to 'Lets Talk Tyre' near the Kembangan Paradise Tomyam restaurant.

anyway any exp mech should be able to do it.
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Should I have more information about you or your car number plate ? So that I can tell him I was introduced by you and see if can get further discount. =x

QUOTE(bubblefrog @ Oct 30 2009, 10:52 AM)
yea same as mine....it seems like a bit "sot" sumtime it can go till 500-550km but lately it only go till 300-400km nia...sad.gif

am i heavy footed?? but i feel the car like no energy like tat hahaha....


Added on October 30, 2009, 12:53 pmanyone can intro mech around pj?? who charge reasonable...smile.gif
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Make sure you read Post #350.

Tyre pressure plays an important role.
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QUOTE(nayte @ Oct 30 2009, 08:56 PM)
bro cleaning the TB is supposed to give better accelerationr right? is a dirty TB responsible for having to crank the engine twice during cold start? cos lately the first time i crank the engine will stall. 2nd time only everything will be fine.

has anybody used the decarbonizing stuff for their engine before to remove the carbon deposits? any positive results?
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I dont really feel good about the D'carbo. Although I never used it before , I read that it might cause Hydro lock , foul spark plug and foul petrol smell after they did it.
Maybe you can try out those addictive or treatment that sells in Hypermarket or accessories shop instead.

Bear in mind , Nothing beats an overhaul. smile.gif

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