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Photography Nikon D40/D40x/D60/D3000/D5000 V6, Entry Level Digital SLR from Nikon.

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post Oct 22 2009, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Oct 22 2009, 09:41 PM)
he's asking for the AF-D 50mm f/1.4, not AF-S, which the price is ok compare to the overly expensive AF-S
n he said 35mm f/2, not the AF-S 35mm f/1.8, which is more expensive than the AF-D 50mm f/1.8
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i dont think he is talking about 50 f1.4 D and 35 f2 for a d3000 body. sweat.gif


Added on October 22, 2009, 9:51 pm
QUOTE(dukunet @ Oct 22 2009, 09:43 PM)
don't think i can use commander mode... using D3000.... i'm also thinking of buying sb600 together with prime lense... it would make it faster for taking night/indoor pictures rite? i just don't like the standard 18-55 lense + builtin lense when taking indoors...
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well if that the case, get a flash first, it will change everything with a flash (build in flash is terible). D3000 kit lens is a very nice lens, try explore and get more out of it. Prime lens that works with d3000 cost quite alot as what i suggested to you about af-s 50 1.4 that cost as must as a d3000 body itself so u can only aim for a cheaper prime which the the cheapest dx design to cheer the d40's category to enjoy some nice prime feel with bokeh drool.gif

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post Oct 22 2009, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(dukunet @ Oct 22 2009, 10:34 PM)
sori for the confusion... i know it cannot autofocus on d3000... just it fits my budget... but on second thought, its quite hard to manual focus... tried on standard kit... need more practice....

originally want to buy d90, but since i'm still new, decided to buy d3000 with extra 2000 for lense and flash... planning to upgrade body later... now its time to learn... with that extra 2000, still thinking on what to buy.... that's why i targeted sb600 + the said lense... total would be around 2k if not mistaken... one thing for sure, i'll buy flash... sb600 look nicer... smile.gif how bout performance between sb600 & di622? much different? di622 worth buying? sori, try to research on this but recently too many things todo...

and i don't think d3000 can use it's builtin flash as commander...


Added on October 22, 2009, 11:18 pm
day pics outdoor with the standard lens is ok... only indoors i don't quite like it... maybe i should get sb600 + AF-s 35mm/f1.8 instead...
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what kind of indoor pics u planning to take? indoor portrait, indoor events? going slow and easy doesnt mean u cant afford for a better kit, u just have to try step by step. 50 mm is almost a must have lens for everyone since it can quite cover alot compare to a 35 mm. U have to move alot with a prime lens to adjust your distance to frame your target, try to zoom your kit lens to 35mm and play with it more before u buy a 35 mm f1.8.
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post Oct 23 2009, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Oct 23 2009, 06:26 PM)
aiyo..see..now i being poison..wanna take d90..grrrr... doh.gif
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get a flash as a commander, stop wasting money for a sb600 that function like a normal flash. Lets just wait for the secondhand d90 which cost cheaper than investing for a new d90. Poison ? its full of it, enjoy the smell of it but try to be in control whistling.gif
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post Oct 23 2009, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(mybiebie @ Oct 23 2009, 06:53 PM)
so far i check all the 2nd hand unit like D80 or D90 price dun drop so much...if can buy new i feel with interest free instalment plan.
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Suggest you to select a poison lens in a shop that offer good price then ask them to make interest free installment for you. I assure u that after the installment plan ended, u could still sell your lens in a good price. Imagine installment free for rm200++ a month for a nikon d90 for 24 months. Investing a camera body is like investing in a car which the value drop from time to time when something better comes out pushing the value down.

Body replacement models = happens like 1 year or 2 years once hmm.gif

lens replacement = not really . that why a good condition lens always still in nice price

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post Oct 23 2009, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(jsc_tidus @ Oct 23 2009, 08:29 PM)
if i were u, i would save some more and go for the SB-600..

or u might want to try the third party flash guns such as nissins..  nod.gif
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nissin work just fine with a price tag like rm 300 cheaper than the sb600

cheaper because it is third party brand and doesnt have a screen at the back.

if u go to honest photo shop, the sales would advice u to try a third party flash

i m using a nissin di866(rm930++) which is the best nissin flash that also act as a commander mode and as good as the SB900(rm1600++) which some even give up their sb900 to get em.

If u wanna get a rm 790 new SB600 , u might as well consider adding another rm200 to get a high end third party flash like nissin di866.

i m training my CLS nowdays with no problem triggering wireless .

will share a nice CLS pics as soon as i get a nice 1

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post Oct 23 2009, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Oct 23 2009, 08:25 PM)
hot stuff...haha
guy..what kind of speedlight with budget rm400-500?
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try get a secondhand nissin di622 which cost less than rm400 i think and play with it. If u going to get a commander in the future, it can always serve as a loyal slave in CLS. U dont need a good expensive flash as a slave cool2.gif

or u can try hunt for a secondhand sb600 which cost like rm 650 to 700.


Added on October 23, 2009, 9:05 pm
QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Oct 23 2009, 08:51 PM)
wow...hurm..might need to save money..
what diffrence between di622 and 866?
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di622(look like a cheap flash without lcd at the back
were design as an alternative to sb600(with lcd at the back to do settings).

di866(commander mode with the first in the world colour lcd screen)
were design as an alternative to sb900(a nice high end nikon flash)

if u wanna choose there is only 2 choices for me

nissin = cheap with good function

Nikon SBs = Expensive with good function + sexier

Both also serving u loyally to help u shoot nice pics

If u do mind how people look at u base on your gears , choose the nikons
If your only motive is to get the best lights to make your work , the brand of the flash doesnt matter

dont ever let some SLR gear collector maniac showing off his item and tell u how good it is to add some money to be much more sexier posing with the gear doh.gif

Remember, you are a photographer and you re not a model sweat.gif

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post Oct 23 2009, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Oct 23 2009, 10:23 PM)
im not talking about the real commander function
without commander, D40/D40x/D60/D3000/D5000 still can activate sb600/sb900 to flash wirelessly using built-in flash
this function is called SU-4 type wireless flash shooting, where camera's built-in flash can also be used as a master flash unit
*info taken from SB-900 user manual

i recently only jz found out about this function
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i think i saw a guy using my d40 to shoot wireless in a studio in trainings, but i cant confirm. Can you confirm it pls?


Added on October 23, 2009, 10:28 pm
QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Oct 23 2009, 10:21 PM)
realize that..haha..now i put that quote on my myspace..haha
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haha, can i sue you for copyright? drool.gif



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post Oct 24 2009, 07:59 AM

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QUOTE(zellleonhart @ Oct 24 2009, 12:41 AM)
Im using di622 and yeah, must manually set the power of the flashgun and trigger it using the built-in flash. But the cons is that the built-in flash is too harsh, causing the subject to be overexposed sometimes.

And i dunno why, di622 cannot be triggered when the built-in flash's power is manually set (not TTL)... I'm frustrating about this...

one more thing... if a nikon DSLR has commander function, then it can wirelessly trigger a CLS-compatible flashgun (like SB600/900) without the use of built-in flash? Purely infrared or wad?
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the build in flash will still shoot but it does not fire for flash if u set it --
commander mode set all groups wireless, dunno about others


Added on October 24, 2009, 8:02 am
QUOTE(arafat @ Oct 24 2009, 07:39 AM)
i plan to take pics in putrajaya (buildings/bridges)

i'm using standard d5000 (newbie here)

can u guys recommend me the suitable manual setting

i will play the setting later but need some basic guidance first as i'm clueless  icon_question.gif
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going to putrajaya at night time a day time?

if u so clueless then u should not go for full manual mode, too dangerous to all those beautiful pics
try Program auto or aperture auto.

shouldnt be any problem if u get enough sun light rclxm9.gif

bring a tripod and a remote if u plan to shoot at night time rolleyes.gif

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post Oct 25 2009, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Oct 24 2009, 10:59 PM)
oh..and function of diffusion (the white cap on flash) use for?
make flash white?
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it is called diffuser.

there is alot of nice diffuser out there in the market, garyfoong diffuser is one of the best and quite expensive with a price tag of rm120 +

cheap normal diffuser cap only cost rm30 to 50

it is a must for a flash i think. It make the pictures warmer and miss look those oily and shining skin.

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post Oct 25 2009, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(shinjun @ Oct 25 2009, 01:10 AM)
The photo with diffuser effect...looks so fake for me..I don't believe diffuser can do till that level without adjusting suitable flash power. I believe that photo was taken as the flash point upward and bounce back..look at lighting point in the photo.
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yea kinda fake, just an example i took from digital mania

but this is the best way to tell people what a diffuser is meant for i guess

just look at how nikon show their pics with build in flash compared to nikon flashgun
just funny that it can actually make people smiles LOL doh.gif
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post Oct 25 2009, 08:31 AM

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i guess newbie still prefer a new nikon d40, so many freaking new alike nikon d60,d3000 and even d5000 out there in there market. I just sold my d40 new alike just like boxed out of shops for rm1200 smile.gif
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QUOTE(ryanso85 @ Oct 25 2009, 09:41 AM)
personally i will still choose d3000 to start now, never hold d40. d5000 liveview n doesnt impress me much, its like a extra features to me. if i have the budget, i will go for d90.

now looking to add a flash and prime lens
thinking of nissin di622 and 35mm f1.8 afs

any idea?
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flash is a must, if i were u i would save alot more for a AF-S 60mmf2.8 with a secondhand cost like rm1600++ cause u can do both macro and nice portrait. Flash is a must doesnt matter day or night time. Nissin is the best budget flash. Dont go for the brands. Cheap and nice to consider is the 17-50 f2.8 tamron which cost only rm1300.
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QUOTE(a.ihsan @ Oct 25 2009, 09:56 AM)
i love my D60. Don't care if the new models got live-view, more focus points (actually I'm upset about this part).
for me what camera you use, doesn't matter. its what you do with it!  flex.gif

by the way, its up to you. do you feel you always go to places where you would need an external flash? if you do, then go for the flash
and if you always feel you need a better lens for different situations, get the lens.
good luck  smile.gif
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you are absolutely right, pros can even shoot nice pics with his 2.3 megapixel hand phone. So d60 is already more than u need to make a nice pics. Well if u going pro where u shoot event and wedding where u earn money from photography, then u may consider going semi pro like d200/300/300s/700. d3/x/s is more for serious sports and animal shooting national geographic type of pros. A rich player can get all those and act like a pro but he is not a pro doh.gif


Added on October 25, 2009, 10:26 am
QUOTE(ryanso85 @ Oct 25 2009, 10:23 AM)
btw...this is my latest shots with my d3000...i really need a flash for indoor shots

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no tripod? settings?

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QUOTE(ryanso85 @ Oct 25 2009, 12:58 PM)
with tripod
ISO100 F5.6 13s
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aperture is not right then, try with 12 all the way to 22

landscape pics always with low aperture, it will capture everything crystal clear.

nice try mate
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QUOTE(dukunet @ Oct 25 2009, 03:18 PM)
after a lot of reading, instead of choosing di622 or sb600, i'm thinking of either Di866 or sb600 (due to budget). also read somewhere, sb600 look nicer on a d3000 because of its size... but i dun know the size of di866... don have the opportunity to look around... what do you guys think of di866 size compared to sb600 on a D3000? the specs of sb600 is good enough, but i won't mind adding a few rm to get di866 if size fits...
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haha, if u wanna compare like this, u can also consider secondhand sb800 which u can get around rm1000 to 1250 which is alot better than sb600. Nissin di866 is as big as a d3000 body flex.gif . Remember one thing when u buy flash gun, u will have to spend another rm100++ for batteries and charger hehe= expensive hobby brows.gif
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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Oct 25 2009, 10:22 PM)
usually when u guy hav speedlight..where u put? same as camera bag or..?
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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Oct 25 2009, 10:22 PM)
usually when u guy hav speedlight..where u put? same as camera bag or..?
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well if u dont mind, normally they provide a bag for keeping the flash, this bag can be wear onto your belt if u have 1 u basically look like a special forces with a magazine pouch at your belt. With this way, u can make sure the flash is easy to reach and keep all the time. Meet a situations where u need flash, pull out flash from pouch and attach the shoot. cool2.gif
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Anyone can show some nice pasar malam pics together with settings? i have terible pics from yesterday pasar malam, low light is so hard for me. Please feel free to share. 300 iso with a fix 1.8 also feel not so nice.
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Oct 26 2009, 09:40 PM)
Yeay.. Thanks bro.. Finally I can use it as a slave biggrin.gif

Btw, any recommendation of tripod about RM100-200? Lightest and smallest possible  rolleyes.gif
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i just bought a digieye pro = rm140 (quite heavy already to be carry on trips) i cant carry those expensive manfrotto around in trip, just too heavy for semi pro. i think this digipro should be good enough for u too because its not too heavy and not too light and most important-its not expensive to try and use it as a flash stand incase u need to get another tripod in the future. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(capix @ Oct 30 2009, 08:36 AM)
http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/ftz/searchresult.php

just wanna share...2nd and..D5000 kit for 2400...anyone dare...if sucess let me know..haahaa...
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why dare? most secondhand SLR is nicely taken care of. Try bring someone who know SLR to go with u . I only aim for secondhand item nowdays. Nice and cheap from rich people who buy something they dont need and sell back cheap.

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