my bad my bad

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Added on October 17, 2009, 11:56 amtotally agreed with you, i see alot of photog nowdays are more like collector if their wallet is loaded with creditcards or cash. See no reason to upgrade a body just for a lens, not like u getting so many lens. Why upgrade for the sakes of getting af-s lens?? Do u know pro's still prefer to use manual focus? study those manual lens price, it was made to be manual and expensive. 50mm f1.8 is one of the main cause of people upgrading because its cheap, its a 1:1 prime fixed 1.8 max aper, manual focus is easy and better for portrait and macro man, i google it, i try it and i believe in it. Manual focus is the real skill.

All Kuala lumpur driver nowdays all no skill driving auto only, AUTO how to do drift after watch Initial D wo

Technology was not design to make human more sufficient i guess if u guys watch that movie name '' surogates''

This post has been edited by maxh3h3: Oct 17 2009, 11:56 AM

i did some research in looking for some all in 1 lens for travels, most would choose a 18-200mm with a VR, but the price for a nikkor 18-200 is not cheap. Of course, u can consider sigma and tamron which almost half the price of a nikkor.
After reading some reviews from so many users, i would choose a 18-135 mm or a 18-105mmVR as a travel lens.
Getting one of those in secondhand price is not expensive at all to try.

Would u mind to tell me why u need a 18-200mm lens?
Choosing a lens really depends on what kinda shots u hunting

longer lens or expensive lens doesnt make u look more like a pro

All SLR were meant to to make good quality pic, the problem is the user, so if u are new to SLR, u will find alot of problem getting nice pics.

getting nice pics in low light conditions is a headache because it may force u to use the build in flash to make sure sure pics are not blur.

So much to learn in SLR world, if u dont have the patience and expect a miracle SLR that produce nice pics, i dont think u should start

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I would suggest u to get a secondhand as the way i suggest to all the new players because alot of nice and new secondhand SLR out there. U can start slow by buying a nikon set with a kit lens and get a nice flash gun for u to shoot in low light conditions (all this cost less than 2k) with another extra 1 k, u can come back for advice on what kinda pics u shooting and i ll give u some ideas. This is not a place where u should spend blindly.

Lens value = always good if its good and in demand

SLR body value = u ll lose like rm 200 to rm600 a year depend on the markets

Think and listen wisely

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Added on October 17, 2009, 9:30 pma.ihsan,

i m so confuse now, still thinking which 1 i should go for, between the

17- 50 mm f2.8 tammy

95 mm f2.8 tammy

wanna find something to replace the my kit lens but i focus more on portrait

need some surport and advice to make my move , jejejejej



This post has been edited by maxh3h3: Oct 17 2009, 09:30 PM

Play with kit lens, 18-55mm kit lens of d40 or d60 is a good start for u
here is some landscape pics and portrait i made on my d40 kit lens non VR

MY NOOB PORTRAIT SHOT





WARNING, ALL OF THIS ARE MY NOOB SHOT

C & C please not so hard

well if after u got the 18-105 mm and put away the kit lens for good, u better off selling it to someone who need it more right. It doesnt worth that much also , so u maybe can choose to keep the lens as your collections
d40 is a very compact SLR, almost anything attach to it make it look small

anyone wanna buy my d40 , pm me
selling cheap

yup, you are right most of the kit lens the nikon pair with the nikons SLR are very good. Of course most would prefer a VR for a zooms to minimize the handshake which give us blurred pics. But for long term, it is almost a must to take care of your SLR and lens there are some cheap around below rm200++ dry box in market.

17-50mm f2.8 (nikon build in motor) for rm 1300 new one with AP warranty

thats the best price i know i can get

dont offer pointless poison advice man
d90 abit over not to consider the price, its not even in the same category
there is only d3000 and d5000 to choose for in this category

cheaper d3000 close to what the d40/x/60 are with just some simple add on

alittle bit expensive than d3000 and alittle bit cheaper than d90 = d5000

All of this just plain business strategy, most of the price are very close to each other
so u would eventually upgrade or spend alittle bit more.

Best way is to get the cheapest secondhand that u can play and still can sell it with minimum lost
when u done enough with it so u can upgrade to the next level with just some top up

poison ....... poison.... cant get enough of it

i dont like canon, but i cant say why because i can sometimes tells that this certain pics that are shot with a canon.
Nikon just 1 step ahead of canon all the time. Hard to resist the darkside.
My company organise few photography class, all lecturer using nikon when most of the participant from my company use canon and i m the only one using nikon

But canon provide the best after sales service and customer services

This post has been edited by maxh3h3: Oct 19 2009, 12:00 AM

nah insurance is bull sHit, its an expensive hobby , learn how to take care of your stuff. A very good business tactics, imagine how much fotokem made from u guys.

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Added on October 21, 2009, 1:10 amif a nikon wanna show the problem, it will show in less than 1 year, i meant real technical problems.
You know lah when u buy medical insurances, this and that = all can but when u reach hospital, this can but this cannot and this maybe can and this sure cannot LOL

This post has been edited by maxh3h3: Oct 21 2009, 01:10 AM

hehe, sorry guys maybe got insurances agent in here , but farcry3r, dont simply snap to increase all the shutter count. Clean away dust on body all the time, always try clean your stuff after u finish with it.

I never really try 50 f1.4 before but people still prefer the 1.8 out of the 1.4 not because 1.8 is cheaper, 2 of my fren sell their 1.4 and gotten a 1.8 instead. I m using nissin di866 now because i used to use a d40 with no commander and i thought i would eventually need a commander flash and the colour look much cooler. If on budget, i would suggest u to go for di622 because its good enough to cover everything just not as sexy as the sb600 which cost so much more. Use nissin = so far no problem, if got problem in future, it is the first flash with USB so we can eventually be updated with the best updates that may solve our problem.

Since u like bokeh so much, u should try get a secondhand 50 f1.8 which u need to manual focus since its widely use for portrait and flower shot with the 1.8 to actually make really nice natural bokeh.

U should tell us what kinda pics u wanna shoot, if u really need auto focus, i would also suggest u a af-s 60 mm f2.8 which u can do macro and stunning portrait at the same time and it can auto focus. af-s 50mm1.4 does not worth to invest for me.

Just my 2 cent,

Alot of user change their body or upgrades just for the legendnary must have lens af-d 50 f1.8, why not buy it cheap secondhand like rm 370 and try play with it for few weeks and if u really cant use it then put up in forum for sale and get yourself the cash back, af 50 f1.8 is in a very stable market rate. Maximum cost of lost is maybe none to rm 30 ringgit lol.

why do u like nikon d3000 and why u prefer nikon better than canon?
Actually if u use nikon long enough, u ll be able to tell what kinda quality coming out from canons and nikons
This is just some comment that i got from most SLR players : -
nikon = VERY SHARP , MORE VIVID

canon = GOOD SHARP , SOFTER

Some wedding companies have request from customer to use canons only
because nikon is too good in bringing out all the pimples and eyebags

Cons and pro,

Joining SLR world cheap and save is the best way to start
If u do alot of portraits, maybe u ll keen on getting a cheap 50 mm lens

If it yes, u could consider :-

canon 1000d = smallest and cheapest ( not sexy at all)

nikon d70 / d70s / d80 = secondhand body only = rm 1000++ / rm 1150++ / rm 1800++(very sexy )
d70/s consider quite old with small lcd screen but still more sexy on a guys hand

If u not planning to get this 50 mm, there is no problem for u to get a d40/x/d60/d3000 which some players start selling it cheap in secondhand.

high iso is almost unacceptable anyway, a lot of new d3000 owner here so this is not a good thing to say,
And yes, nikon and canon are totally different in character , good or bad base on yourself.

are u a canon user? lets not start a brand war

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Added on October 22, 2009, 12:22 amHold both the green lable button to reset

the try go for M mode

f 1.8 = max aperture 1.8

This post has been edited by maxh3h3: Oct 22 2009, 12:22 AM

yea if u bump into alot of low iso requirement area, flash is a must have items in your bag

Auto mode is a no no , go for Program Auto is the best fastest way because u still in control of your SLR.
Full Auto actually turn your camera into a point and shoot device

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Added on October 22, 2009, 8:39 pmwell S mode is the fastest way to shoot some fast actions movement during enough sun light l, d90 is way larger than a d5000 but d5000 is nice with the rotating LCD .

men + d5000 = feels like men walking a chit tzu small puppies

men+ d90 = feels like walking a labrador ret

hehe


This post has been edited by maxh3h3: Oct 22 2009, 08:39 PM

A = aperture priority

Set your aperture and it will autoset a suitable shutter speed for the aperture that u set.

S = Shutter Priority

same thing just the other way around

M mode is fun of course

but u must be real good with a lot practice to set the right aperture with the right shutter to produce the kind of quality that u want

1. Flash = nissin( price and functions) Sb 600 ( expensive and sexy) = nissin for me
2. prime lense = 50 mm ( better / too expensive) 35 mm ( cheap enough to learn about prime lens)= 35 mm
3. Zoom Lens = better go for 18-135 or 18-105 comparing the price of the 55-200mm.

u need a tripod for night pics and a flash of course
go for a sb600 if u have the commander mode