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post Dec 2 2009, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(pedro @ Dec 2 2009, 08:32 PM)
Not due to deadlift but suffered a damaged disc before,that's why didn't deadlift for a long time,but now that am started am addicted to the feeling!

Am taking it easy,max i tried was 90kgs and it seemed easy!
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i just did 5x5x 100kg last week. it is kinda siok lol the feeling. normally only do 1 set 5RM, highest i tried only 127.5kg with strap. the strap hurts so much on my wrist..

perhaps will try high reps deadlift next time lol.
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post Dec 4 2009, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(david890701 @ Dec 4 2009, 12:06 PM)
places like kettlers and fitnessfirst i think dont have right? ALright thanks for the answer wink.gif
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try to get padded type.

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post Dec 4 2009, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(FLubber @ Dec 4 2009, 07:45 PM)
last week at the gym i was approached by a girl. she asked about how to lose weight. so i told her to pick up weight training, HIIT (since she's been doing so much cardio, she should be able to handle HIIT) and a clean diet.

then she mind f*cked me by saying : "but if i train, then when my fat become muscle, after i stop training the muscle become fat again, i dont want! i read from magazine that if we weight train, we must train the muscle to become muscle, not train fat to become muscle."

i stood there stunned. her phone rang n she went away. i continued my training session, far far away from her.
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i used to think like that, thank to our pro magazine and newspaper thumbup.gif
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post Dec 6 2009, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Dec 6 2009, 09:11 PM)
Nolah.....it starts off at about 55% and move up to 70%. Eh no joke ah, this method was developed by the Russians. I know of a particular Russian junior that can do this with 200KG. He does something like a single clean, double front squat, double jerk. And his max jerk is roughly 225KG.
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erm, is it suitable to use such poundage on cardio aka recovery day?
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post Dec 8 2009, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(jamis @ Dec 8 2009, 10:27 AM)
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High skill exercises include the Full Clean, Full Snatch, High Pull From the Floor, and Overhead Squat.

Moderate skill exercises include the Hang Clean, Hang Snatch, High Pull From the Hang, Power Clean, Power Snatch, Push Press, Deadlift, and Front Squat.

Low skill exercises include the Bent-over Row, Overhead Press, Lunge Variations, Back Squat, and Dumbbell Squat.

back squat is low skill exercise, this complexes indeed sounds brutal. I think if i m going to do it,non of the high skill exercise i can perform in my gym, else i gona get kick out for throwing the weight :S
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Technically the power clean is design to trow the weight to the floor after you finish the movement. imagine if you clean heavy how are you going to lower it gently? lol?

and for the complex excercise, let's say you can squat 80kg easily, but you can only overhead press 40kg, still you have to use the weight you can handle for the overhead press. right? advise advise hmm.gif
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post Dec 8 2009, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(jamis @ Dec 8 2009, 03:24 PM)
The only option i have is to train on lower weight thou, lol.

I think the weight that it suggested is for individual exercises, like u can squat 80kg for 16 reps, u do it 8 reps and for overhead if it is 12 then 6. Correct me if i m wrong, i m not very sure on how it works as well.
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no idea the complex you mentioned, i am talking about The Bear Complex which done each exercise in 1 reps (repeat 7 times)

1 reps including clean,front squat,overhead press, back squat, overhead press

so there is 7 "reps"
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post Dec 8 2009, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(jamis @ Dec 8 2009, 05:01 PM)
ops, i was talking about the link that was posted earlier lol.
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Not yet read lol, seem a good read, going to start complexes +Various of squat as my new program. Overhead Squat FTW!
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post Dec 8 2009, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Dec 8 2009, 02:35 PM)
Technically the power clean is design to trow the weight to the floor after you finish the movement. imagine if you clean heavy how are you going to lower it gently? lol?

and for the complex excercise, let's say you can squat 80kg easily, but you can only overhead press 40kg, still you have to use the weight you can handle for the overhead press. right? advise advise hmm.gif
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Edit

i just read the article, i think i got the idea how to program it smile.gif

i normally do 1 set of complex to warm up before heavy lifting

comprise of

all done in Oly bar only

Overhead Squat 8reps-Rule 1 high skill applied
Good Morning 8reps- Rule 2 applied
Overhead Lunge 5reps each leg
Bent Over Row 8reps
Push Press 8reps

Result? Heart was beating just nice to begin the workout section tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Desvaro @ Dec 8 2009, 10:17 PM)
So you used the complex as a warmup? Just curious cause you said 'to begin the workout section'
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yeah, absolutely. i got the idea from the link i posted in pedro's journal

after the complex, i will do some dynamic stretching also. probably took 15min in total
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post Dec 9 2009, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Dec 9 2009, 02:00 AM)
Probably won't be using a weight so heavy that you'll need to throw them. If you're using a weight you can OH press, then should be no problem to hold on to them for about 10 reps.

Try using those complexes design by other coaches and see first. Then can start designing your own.
Even stuff like Javorek's dumbbell complex #1 & #2 are tough, even without heavy weights. Half of the exercises are explosive.

If you want to increase the intensity (and the puke level) of the complex, add in explosive/power movements. Swings, snatches, squat jumps (with or without weights), burpees. E.g. Ross's Magic 50. I'll never call a 10kg dumbbell 'light weight' again, after I lie on the floor panting like crazy.
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already done Magic 50 few times, with 15kg snatch and 10kg swing. Nice! but not reach the puke level yet. maybe shorten the rest time will reach that lol.

QUOTE(JonYeap @ Dec 9 2009, 03:10 AM)
so... how's ur workout now?
videos? pics? haha...
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diam diam la =.= =.= =.= Lol
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post Dec 11 2009, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Dec 10 2009, 12:40 AM)
I think you could easily use way heavier weights.
15kg is sap-sap-sui for you lah. thumbup.gif
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cant go too high weight, form tend to be crap
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post Dec 17 2009, 11:01 PM

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if this kind of gym happen in malaysia, it gotta zap lap very soon..LOL but damn i love it wub.gif


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post Dec 18 2009, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Dec 18 2009, 04:22 AM)
I'm planning to open this sorta gym in 3 years time. What makes you think it's gonna bankrap?
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i can hardly see people using squat rack in gym. but if it was at a easy access place. then it is good to go.

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Dec 18 2009, 02:33 PM)
If I were to get trainers, they would have to have at least a P.I.C.P. Level 1 certificate, or NASM-CPT certificate. I will definitely want a C.H.E.K. practitioner. If they don't have any of these, they'd have to prove to me, they're willing to go for courses to learn and understand more. Most importantly, I'll want them to constantly read journals, books, studies, watch videos, and update themselves. I'm going to bring one guy from China who's my coach's good friend to coach Oly weightlifting as well. Probably end up with 3 trainers including myself.

I believe it can work. I've already got one Eleiko barbell set, and I'm gonna work into buying another 3 sets from DHS or Zhangko. My friends in Pushmore had the slowest business in the world, and now they even have to schedule the classes because too many people come. I bet it'll work. biggrin.gif
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sound nice, but i dont think digging a hole to build a platform is good idea. the thickness of concrete slab is 150-200mm thick normally, you gotta spoiled the structure. just lay on the floor will do. easier way yet economic
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post Dec 23 2009, 11:38 PM

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WTF look at his age and size doh.gif
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post Dec 30 2009, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(John91 @ Dec 30 2009, 12:58 AM)
wth he's on a raw liquid diet? He looks damn ugly although he's big.
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it was the spec and his hairstyle make him looks like a weirdo.. zzz

but still he got the good body.
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QUOTE(Majinity @ Jan 2 2010, 04:09 PM)
I should go with the low reps high weights then? Great and thanks. Another, the 3months target is for me to get the correct BMI not the muscles yet. But 6months to a year, for the big muscles.  rclxms.gif

It seems that they (gym people) teach us to higher reps low weight for beginner.
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BMI is junk!
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post Jan 7 2010, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(SticH @ Jan 7 2010, 04:48 AM)
I'm doing 10kg squat and 15kg bench press, are you guys going to laugh at me? =(
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YES we will, if that is a case you've been squat for some time and still 10kg
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post Jan 7 2010, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(david890701 @ Jan 7 2010, 01:01 PM)
i wont.

I'm not calling myself pro, but i'm sure a person i saw today in the gym is definitely wrong. He's around 19, he came in, take up two dumbbells ( no warm ups ) , do 2x dumbbell flyes , 2x bicep curls , 2x triceps extensions,  then he do two more sets and sit down and talk to his friend for like 30 minutes.
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Gym is flooding with this kind of people lol. i am happy with that, i don't have to Q for the squat rack tongue.gif

QUOTE(Majinity @ Jan 7 2010, 01:07 PM)
I'm doing 5kg each dumbbell squat. Last time try bench for first time, with empty Oly bar, I'm out on the 2nd rep. So no, I'm on your side.
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i used to used do 10kg squat with DB also, well i breathe like a cow. as i am nvr touch any weight training before. once i get my fitness back, i am able to do more
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/742506#

So, do it constantly and improve yourself, stay on the same ***** weight does't keep you grow stronger
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post Jan 11 2010, 10:13 PM

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and squeezeeeeeeeeeeee your glute hard. you will able to lift more weight

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