These weight gainers are crazy. 1850 kcals per fukcing serving. They must be joking.

Nobody sells whey cheaper than GNC in Malaysia.

Naw man, 4rings has the cheapest whey. Got some other places sell ON for 190 only.

its alllll the effect of testo lah bro. Increase in testo will do all the effects you mentioned.
Chow

why not? eurycoma longfolia (tongkat ali), tribulus and other test booster is used in bodybuilding especially ppl >30 yo.
Most testosterone booster supplements use this ingredients as well.

more testo, more muscle, more sex drive (horny), bigger balls, yada yada yada

Chow

U can split ur session. But swap it around, do weight first then cardio.

U seems like staying in the gym for quite long buddy, but anyway may be u need to list out ur diet plan, u can adjust from there.
e.g.

8am - breakfast
12pm - lunch
3pm - mid lunch
6pm - dinner
7pm--HIT the gym
10pm - Postworkout meal
11pm tido.

been training for 5 months, started out at 50kg, gain 10kg after 3 months, and started plateau ever since. Stopped comsuming supplements (ON whey) after the first 3 months. Well i did not train my legs, maybe thats the reason i started to plateau.
I dont train my legs because im afraid it might stunt my growth, but the muscle imbalance is too hard to ignore. My upper body is larger than my lower body, so I started adding Squat into my routine this week and see how it goes. Well yesterday is the first day I squat and I can merely squat 30kg 5x5, thanks to my chicken legs. My quad gets freaking sore today.

hey, wanna ask u guys, any of you joining/watching Mr KL?

while u use your test jacked up, although its synthetic your sex drive will still jacked up. The stuff that stays long in the body like deca, increasing the risk of tests shrinkage and infertility, yes, without proper PCT.

and jamis was talking about tongkat ali lah. hahahaha

Chow

that have to ask people that actually use them lah. refer to kotmj's post.
but some people said tribulus is way better test booster compared to eurycoma longfolia.
Chow

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lol i like ure profile info  - SPAM AND BECOME A SENIOR MEMBER..hahaha

Are you focusing on fat loss ? Then i guess it's ok. If for mass, do the weight first. then cardio for around 20 mins

Workouts? I wish it was as nice and easy as a "workout". This is ball busting, nut grinding, joint stripping, health destroying training I tell you, weightlifting. Far from a healthy sport, that's what I'd say cuz of the constant stress to your body in order to achieve the results you want. Which is probably why my stress level is higher than the average person's and probably why HCl might be able to report good results for me. Maybe now all the steaks, will be digested!

Seriously?

gtoforce is gonna get a hell of bashing from this statement.
wakakaka... popcorn ready! =.=
it aint easy trying to put a bar above ur head.
try it with 100+kg and tell us weather its easy? =.=
hahaha... u can deadlift 200kg, doesnt mean u can snatch 100kg. =.=

chill chill, perhaps pizzaboy was probably overwhelmed and excited of his routine.. it takes a lot of mental torture to lift that heavy.. but mind you, not many ppl could wham like what he can do la, its just like you dont find many 90+ year old senior citizens looking like a 60 year old wandering around the streets of kl.

You know, when I said "Ball busting" training, I mean that it's effing hard which causes my stress levels to elevate. I didn't mean to say that I'm stronger and better than you, though you took it that way.

Btw, nobody posts progress pictures, and tells of the difference in their arm size, JUST to post. It's always with an intention of getting some compliments and feeling better about themselves. Show off, crudely put. Yet there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. It always helps to feel good about yourself.

Now if you think that my statement;

is a braggy sentence. Let' me help dissect it for you.



It's super difficult.


It's not a healthy sport cuz of the constant stress on your body, especially when one aspires to obtain greater results, compete at higher levels.


My stress levels are probably higher, and HCl may help me digest food better.

Perhaps you had a bad day, but in no way was my intention to brag. More to say that, "Grueling workouts places a lot of stress and thus may affect stomach acid levels". Also to make a statement that "Some people may think weightlifters training is a walk in the park", I'd like to see you find one person outside weightlifters, that can say that.

Just so you know, bodybuilders, powerlifters, strongmen, gymnasts, swimmers, runners, crossfitters, fighters, all have grueling workouts. It's just the difference in the firing of the motor patterns and lactic tolerance that makes it tougher for one than the other. I'll pay money to see a crossfitter do a bodybuilders workout and call it easy and vice versa.

No matter what, all athletes have a high level of stress and you oughta respect their determination. We're not gym monkeys that pose after sets of bicep curls and chat up a woman in the peeing fountain. We have to work for our money and our results.

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Added on March 11, 2010, 9:58 am
Hehehe.........it's at 105KG now. I'm gonna attempt 106KG tomorrow. Today's squats and accessory workout day. I power cleaned 110KG on Tuesday, and I think I can clean 135KG now. Should be hitting 145KG by June. If I hit comp at 115/150KG, I'd be the happiest man on earth.

Just so you know, bodybuilders, powerlifters, strongmen, gymnasts, swimmers, runners, crossfitters, fighters, all have grueling workouts. It's just the difference in the firing of the motor patterns and lactic tolerance that makes it tougher for one than the other. I'll pay money to see a crossfitter do a bodybuilders workout and call it easy and vice versa.

The stretch marks won't really go away, so you might as well wear them as badges of pride.

Not a good idea to weight train lower body on the day after sprints. Both are too CNS intensive. You could get away with sprinting in the morning and weight training in the evening, but not the other way around.

Since I highly doubt you can sprint in the morning and weight train in the evening, you're better off modifying your program to have 2 leg days, where one 'leg day' will be replaced by sprinting instead. Kind of like how Joe Defranco's earlier WS4SB version.

This of course assumes that you're training to be an athlete. If aesthetics if your goals then someone else could give you better ideas.

I mentioned in my post that it was intended towards athletic training, which was why I said 'If aesthetics if your goals then someone else could give you better ideas'.

I know this is the BB thread, which is why I'm not gonna elaborate unless you want me to, don't wanna go off topic

Btw, I don't play with the weights, I fight to lift them.
I'm not sure how serious this sprinting thing is for you. If you are serious about it, you might want to check out the works of Charlie Francis. Basically what he does is:

Monday/Wednesday/Friday - Sprints/Pylos in the morning, squats/powerclean/bench in the evening. I'm not saying those are the only exercises his athletes do.

Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday - Tempo runs

Again, sorry for going off topic, this is the BB thread after all.