i use moore + gilroy(atlas). love gilroys pictures. =) netter is kinda messy for me.

lol, on a lighter note, your phrase of T D H, reminds me of the mnemonics tom d*** and very naughty harry for medial foot =P hahaha

got a question. Anyone can tell me alternative treatment for AB resistant H.pylori in Malaysia? First line (amox+clarithro+PPI) failed. Aussie therapeutic guideline says metro+tetra+PPI for resistant strain, just wondering what does malaysian guideline says. Or is it the same? =) thanks~

thanks limeuu =)

These 3 jobs can pretty much take you anywhere with a cert from a reputable university. For now think of what you want to do in the future, as in where do you see yourself in 10 years time. Though financial security is important, passion is also very important. you'll be stuck with the job for the next 20-30 years.

if you're under govn scholarship, just take up the 6 years in JCU. If not mistaken their tropical medicine is really strong there. =) plus your degree is way well recognized than PMC, even though not in G8, I assume their teachings should have standards to be recognized by the australian board.

My renal lectures are a few weeks later x.x but I'll be going for WBC as a main detection that there's something going on? prob culture/serology/stain the urine for any suspected bacts?

Again, I'm not sure as I haven't really go into renal yet. I don't think it's confined to P.aeruginosa, many G+ve and -ve can do the same thing too. I read somewhere that nitrite testing has high specificity and low sensitivity? so thats why I'm saying WBC has a higher predictive value for UTI. I've not heard about P.aeruginosa being a common UTI source, probably nosocomial? E.Coli would be more common in community I think. (seniors/doctors help pls =D)

normally its 2 years of preclin and 3 years of clin years in msia. My uni kinda overlaps both in the 3rd year as we're having CNS lectures as well as starting our clin rounds. Well, with many new med schools sprouting out like weeds, it's normal for them to lower their entry requirements to attract more students. Med education has turned into some sort of business in malaysia. that's how I see it. There are definitely exceptions to that.

Leave those people to crash and burn on their own =) basically from first year we're taught to do reflections. I think that really helps in character building. (and also looooooooooots of lectures on ethics and professionalism, public health etc etc) Then again, you'll still see some arrogant bunch lurking around till you graduate.

Not to be mean, but the standard of English even at SPM level is really questionable. Instead of embracing the problem, they went off and made the curriculum Malay based again. I really cant imagine how people can cope with the large transition of using English in everything during their Alvl/matric years, after being taught in Malay in their past 5-6 years of secondary school life. I have to admit my English ain't that dandy as well. I still do feel some pressure conversing with locals here as they talk as fast as a Gatling gun. But it's not all that intimidating =P

Just a general question, as a doctor, do we need to know different terms in different languages? For example, even till now I have NO idea what spleen is in Chinese, or in Malay.

Then again, are translators commonly used in Malaysia? Agree, a good history will pretty much give you a rough idea of what's going on. Which means language can be an obstacle. I know in Aus there's a 24 hour phone translator, not sure if there's such service in Malaysia or not.

Didn't know the situation in Malaysia is this bad... I always thought that the IPTAs are at least better or on par with some of the first world med schools. The shortage of lecturers is a huge problem if you ask me. Hence, an influx of lecturers from all around the world (but hey! we love the multiculturalism don't we? *grin*)

Just makes no sense: there's a shortage of lecturers, and yet med schools are blooming like mad. it's really a sad sight.

Hello windz93a, if you need more info regarding this island *cough*, and also the course, feel free to PM me or post questions here. =) yes I think that's a conditional offer, so that doesnt mean that you've got the spot, yet.

Living cost in tassie isn't as cheap as ppl think it is. We have less variety of food and groceries are tad bit more than mainland. The upside is the cheaper tuition fees. I've kinda lost track of the fees for mainland unis, but for UTAS it has risen to 41k per year in 2011. Lecturers are really really nice and experienced. They are all really dedicated and very enthusiastic about their work. And most of them are still active researchers, apart from those clin doctors.

Even though it's a 5 year course, they are now pushing students to do a year of research like those in mainland. I guess that's one of the downside of having a 5 year course. According to a senior, you'll need a published paper to help you get into some high demand specialities such as cardiology or orthopaedics.

you need to pay half as an acceptance? And you've only gotten a conditional offer? I'm not aware of such arrangement. it's a 5 year course. the extra year is optional. I don't think they've made it compulsory seeing that they just changed from a 6 year course to a 5 year course not long ago. Sure, everyone aims for the big names =) but just saying, I don't think the med education here is any inferior to their teachings. And no, I'm not paid by the school to say this =P I'm loving my faculty and my lecturers and i'm loving med. =) p/s the difference is just too big compared to my previous university.

2nd year currently. =)

oh wow, didn't notice that at all. it's only 37.4k! + the JMP sounds interesting as well. Well yeah, they ask u to pay up and will give you a time limited offer. And they normally issue that quite early compared to other reputable universities like unsw, uwa, and monash. (Sorry windz, totally forgotten bout this. I do recall similar offers been issued during my time as well)

I think a TER of at least 98 should do it. Best if you can get beyond that, but generally the website minimum is always underestimated. I guess people tend to put UTAS as a 'backup' because: 1. .... this is tassie.... 2. it's not a uni from G8.

Just asking, lecturer said that pregnant women with HSV 2 active lesions need to be on acyclovir. Isn't acyclovir category B in the pregnancy risk? Is it generally safe to give them the antiviral over the period of their pregnancy?

Didn't know the numbers are so high already. I always thought that they are still in the 4x zone. 60k/year in UNSW??? that's just insane.


All the best!


btw, you can try JCU if you want. Seems like a decent uni too, more emphasis on tropical diseases compared to other unis.

yup, it's locked for 5 years. (thank God) my seniors in year 3 are paying a lot less than I am now, think it's around 37-35k/year. The fees skyrocketed over the past few years, esp for health care related courses.

UK fees are definitely cheaper currently compared to aus now that the currency ain't that high anymore. (I recalled a point where it was 7x of MYR, scary.) But living cost in UK is rather high, isn't it? Esp if you live in metropolitan areas like London.

I've just went to look at UWA's website. seems like they are following melb model as well. not too sure whether it's implemented in 2012 or 2013. (seems like 2012) Fees for med is 54K in 2011. A year of med fees in UWA = a complete engineering degree fees in UTAS. intriguing.

Trust me, enjoy your holidays while you can. After that it's no stroll in the park =P also, don't cross over to the realms of kiasuness from your state of eager beaver =) Med life is haaaaaaard, but it is also enjoyable

I thought IMU and UCSI have 2 hours of lecture everyday since quite a while ago? For me, I'll say this is bad. Cos they will just compress everything into a 100+ slide ppt and present it in 1 hour. In the end we have to read books and we just take in everything for granted. I'm having 30-40 contact hours here, just because we have heaps of lectures, and they are well structured and they will tell you what are actually relevant in your medical career. Of course they will throw in some fun facts as well which is really interesting. We have clinical lectures as well, fully focusing on clinical side of things instead of the theory side of things. I'm not sure whether they have such system in msia or not, but dun think it was the case for me back when I was studying med in msia. I'll say the move to self directed learning is good, and I agree that most of the students are used to spoon feeding. But the uni should structure lectures properly as well.

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wow, tough one, =P probably sg if thats the case, not sure if i'm eligible for NZ places or not too. But generally a lot of the international students (that i know of) got offered a place in their 5th year. so which is good to hear.

well we're doing more and more clin stuff since year 2. don't think you can do much in year 1 since it's the basics? and things aren't really coming tgt at that stage for me. We do like case presentation in groups, which is really fun =)

I remembered my first PBL case back in msia was on malaria. (somehow =/) and we had to learn about quinines on the 1st day. I have absolutely no idea why and what was going on. so yes, I do agree with you that clinical part of things should come in a lil later, prob sem 2 of year 1 or in year 2 when they've done at least cardio/respi. it's a good thing too cos in year 1 you go "why the heck are we learning all these for?" and in year 2 you go "aahhh..... now things are coming together" =) tis a good feeling =P