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onelove89
post Feb 21 2010, 06:10 PM

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something off the current topic...

this is a convo with my friend:

123: hey why do you want to be a doctor, like seriously why?
me: um, in short, to help others.
123: really? that's noble, but mine's not so noble.
me: um, then what's your reason?
123: I like surgery, you know, cut things up



um.... guys, do you reckon the reason of 'I love to cut things up' is valid to be a doctor? >< haha, just something random that I remembered.
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post Feb 26 2010, 07:53 AM

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Feb 23 2010, 03:44 AM)
"to help others." is probably one of the worst cop-out answers one can ever give, and if replied in an interview one will provide much ammunition for the interviewers to fire. You can help people by being a lawyer, an engineer, a policeman, or even a politician (if you're honest enough); not just by being a doctor.
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ahaha, i'm sorry bout that. cos it's an informal dialogue with my friend. Of course I have my own reasons which I know very well of to do medicine. I was sort of 'summing it up' into one phrase 'to help others' xD yeah, i was being ignorant. And yes. In my first interview for medicine I actually said that, and i got shot back by the interviewers. So I've pondered on that question a lil further on after that. And now i have my own specific answers.

QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Feb 24 2010, 12:56 AM)
Stupidity of the day~
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that just made my day =P
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post Apr 7 2010, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(podrunner @ Mar 15 2010, 10:15 PM)
Need a ballpark figure...how much does it cost to do medicine in Australia currently? Our budget is a very tight RM800K. I understand for some universities, the fees are higher in the last couple of years, correct me if I am wrong. Would appreciate any feedback, thanks in advance.


Added on March 15, 2010, 10:20 pm

So basically, throw one stone, and hit a few docs? Gosh, that's a dismal scenario!!
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Think the cheapest would be in UTAS
5 years, and 40k per year in 2011, so making it 200k$x3=RM600k in tuition fee
Adding living cost of 10k$ per year, making it 5x10k$x3=RM150k. So you can make it with around RM750k.

Other G8 offering med are charging you about 42-44k per year for 6 years. So yeah, that's what most of the international students here will tell you: it's cheaper than other unis in Aus. Quality wise i'm not complaining. I'm enjoying the course and the lecturers are very motivated in their fields.

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post Apr 15 2010, 05:58 PM

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*misread question, sorry*

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post Apr 17 2010, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Apr 15 2010, 07:44 PM)
he didn't say 'come back'..........he said 'remain'...........
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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Apr 16 2010, 08:05 AM)
I too don't understand the logic behind this.

How does shortening the compulsory service encourage doctors to remain in Malaysia? Won't that only hasten the process of them getting out of Malaysia?

Any additional quote from Liow Tiong Lai regarding the logic for this?
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sorry limeuu, my bad for misreading the statement. Um, yes. I can't reason out the answer too.

MAYBE, changing the system will make them more patriotic cos it's showing that the country is looking after them? Ok that was really a random though =P

just a question, why would they want to retain doctors since there'll be a massive production in the near future? won't it be overcrowded?
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post Apr 24 2010, 06:56 PM

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Yeah, i love my hometown =) people do have misconceptions that sarawak is a jungle and stuff like that. haha~ it makes me laugh when they ask me "do you all still live on trees?" and i'll answer them "yes we do! we have wireless internet and lifts up our treehouses." =) but yes, I'll definitely go back to work one day.

QUOTE(zstan @ Apr 24 2010, 05:04 PM)
ermmmm...for one..overcrowding...now u see one department or one big ward got about 30 housemen...and the ward is divided into few cubicles...each cubicle got about 3-4 housmen handling those patients but still they can kelam kabut one...

20 years ago..during my uncle's time who is now a surgeon...he is the only housemen in the whole ward...everything big and small he is also involved..

at his time he already handled appendicitis and some other minor operations..now those housemen go in OT just stand beside and look only..
so u can imagine the kind of training doctors receive nowadays and 20 years ago...it doesn't matter whether how hardworking are you..there is just not much chance to get proper training..medicine is not just textbooks and theories..you need to get your hands on the patient...and every single patient is different and unique....
but then some will not mind..more people=less work..and the government is making it worse by flooding the whole system by producing even more doctors...

my 2 cents.
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Ah sorry to hear that this disheartened you. But IMHO, if this is the sole reason why your not going into med, then you've made the right choice, if you get what I mean. Still, I hope you're doing well in whatever your in now =) *and I love the pics in ur blog, how i envy photographers with their dslr =( I wish i have one.*

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post Apr 24 2010, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Apr 24 2010, 09:25 PM)
errr...that guy/girl asked what i thought about the public hospitals..not why i didn't take medicine..but yea..that's one of my concerns....

haha..thanks for ur admiration..can always go buy one ma..those entry levels one quite cheap....
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re-quote your previous post: nope....decided not [go into medicine] to after seeing the current conditions in the general hospitals... (zstan 2010)

So my previous post was really pointing towards this statement, but of course it is linked to your post about what did you see in gen hosp. So i was saying, if this is your MAIN concern that lead you away, then you've made the right choice not going into med, imho, and of course not in a sarcastic manner.
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post Apr 28 2010, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Apr 28 2010, 02:49 PM)
the mohe just yesterday declared a freeze on new nursing schools.........that is timely......

they should also do the same for med schools........and should review the number of foreign med schools, and the numbers of msians they take in every year..........

but i am not holding my breath.......too much politics and vested interests......
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we all hope so too. if not, msia will seriously have overqualified taxi drivers, or insurance salesman with a mbbs degree >< nah, i'm probably exaggerating but the situation is indeed dire.
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post May 1 2010, 07:00 AM

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Quote: Menurut Lokman, kerajaan perlu mengambil tindakan untuk menghalang doktor-doktor itu daripada lari daripada melaksanakan kewajipan terhadap negara.

What are they gonna do? barricade the country? =.= it's their own freedom anyways.
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post May 1 2010, 07:37 AM

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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ May 1 2010, 07:06 AM)
Government is pissed. UM and UKM are IPTAs (Govt. owned) after all.
After training the med students there with all the govt resources, even giving them scholarship during their studies only to have them run away to another country, Govt sure will be annoyed~
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well true... but they can just increase the salary for new grads right? so that it can attract them to stay? (and prob some of us too)
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post May 15 2010, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ May 15 2010, 11:59 AM)
Why one shouldn't study medicine?A doctor too many

sorry if this got posted before.

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I love the logic that he mentioned. It totally makes sense. =D
that's why I'm planning to work in Aus or Sg prior returning. haha.
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post May 16 2010, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(Sabrin @ May 16 2010, 09:18 AM)
Which is more important as a prerequisite to do medicine?  A good mark in Chemistry or a good mark in Biology?
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do u mean which is more important in medicine? Chemistry I reckon. You can actually enter med w/o prior biology knowledge, but you'll practically DIE if you have no chemistry knowledge. But both are rather inter-related. It comes in a package in medicine.


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post May 16 2010, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(defdekz @ May 16 2010, 06:11 PM)
only a few basics in spm i learnt related with medicine but for chemistry... it has a lot...... for postgrad also
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sorry, come again? ><
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post May 17 2010, 05:45 AM

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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ May 17 2010, 03:16 AM)
uhh... you didn't get what that means?


Added on May 17, 2010, 3:17 am

As in Kopitiam - "Your EnglaND is PoWERFul"
...but seriously, you need to rephrase that~
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thank you cybersetan. =)

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post May 17 2010, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(defdekz @ May 16 2010, 06:11 PM)
only a few basics in spm i learnt related with medicine but for chemistry... it has a lot...... for postgrad also
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please rephrase this sentence. because it makes absolutely no sense, well, the sentence is fragmented.
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post May 29 2010, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(zergg @ May 29 2010, 05:55 PM)
wanna quit my job as a doctor already..
cannot tahan sad.gif
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um can you tell us more about why you want to quit?

Exams coming! all the best peps =D study hard study hard =P
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post Jun 30 2010, 09:37 PM

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ahahahaa~ this thread suddenly just became a kopitiam style chat =P

destroyer, i'm sorry to hear about your condition. I reckon you should consult your doctor rather than getting info off the net/forum. Get second opinions or knowledge on what to do in case of emergencies (um, what do u mean by emergency anyway? =/) but bottom line is, consult a proper doctor, in real life. simple as that. =)

most patients are just curious kitties, and they find heaps and heaps of info to scare themselves off the net, then flings them all in the doctors face. A word of advice, if you do not know how to do an academic search on info, pls stay away from getting chunks of info off the internet, esp things related to health.
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post Jul 22 2010, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(JusticeDeserves @ Jul 22 2010, 06:07 PM)
Anyone know of a simple Stethoscope for a medical student? Basic usage? What about the price range, roughly?
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i'm using littman classic SE II. around rm200.
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post Jul 25 2010, 07:19 AM

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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Jul 25 2010, 07:00 AM)
...and I'm using a cheap RM25 Student Standard Stethoscope (Indian made), which, upon comparison with Littman Stethoscope not much of a difference (Littman is heavier though)...  laugh.gif
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cos all my seniors recommended this >< dunno what else is out there. I think my friend in aussie bought cardiology =/ any difference in using a better stetho in training/uni? my friend made an assumption that you'll be trained better if you use a low end stetho, but not sure how true is that. haha.
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post Sep 21 2010, 10:24 PM

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UNSW is reputable. =) You might find your seniors here. If you're well supported financially, then go for it. Why OZ over KL? I've been through both, and IMHO, Aus is the winning side. The experience is really different. =) I'm sure you'll enjoy it.

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