Is Monash Clayton's MBBS worth the additional >AUD100k over UTAS'?

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How is it that LYN has no "like" feature yet?

Thanks!

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Added on February 3, 2012, 9:41 pmVery true.

This post has been edited by podrunner: Feb 3 2012, 09:41 PM

In the midst of this "madness", there is still that accepted reality that doing medicine in "traditional" overseas destinations like UK, Australia and Ireland requires a certain amount of money. One cannot compare IPTAs, as entrance requirements THESE days are based on a whole set of other criteria, and it will not be surprising if a successful applicant to say Oxbridge, would not even have a foot in any of the IPTAs. Plus, with the declining standards of what was once Malaysia's pride uni, Uni Malaya, aspiring medical students will be better taught and trained overseas, albeit for a hefty sum. Of course many will argue that at the end of 5 years, it's still that basic medical degree. An oxbridge medical degree will of course open more doors!

As far as Monash Clayton is concerned, there's about 60-65 international places, and with their ATAR cut-offs, it would be interesting to find out just how many applicants with A levels were offered, and their corresponding A levels results. I read in another forum that for UNSW, A*A*A*A = ATAT 99.6, and that A*A*AA = ATAR 96. Why there is still an unceasing demand for Monash Clayton is quite bewildering, considering the australian currency is at it's strongest with no indication of weakening in the interim.

Not sure about recouping part of the costs. The med grad is expected to live off his/her salary, I believe FI salary is about GBP24.5K/yr, and in F2, it goes up to about nearly GBP28k. I think this will be just enough to be self supporting, and even if there's any left, it will not be going back to the "investor" (more like "sponsor"!)
When applying through UCAS, the applicant needs to know his/her own strengths/weaknesses, as different uk med schools place different emphasis on criteria for admission. One student who did A lvls in Concord College was sufficiently prepared for UKCAT, got a fab UKCAT score and got a place in Sheffield, a UKCAT heavy med school, which apparently if one lands an interview, it's really only a formality. For Oxbridge, there's the BMAT to go through.

I thought Monash Sunway looks at ISAT and interviews as well, albeit at a different level, as alluded to previously.

This post has been edited by podrunner: Feb 4 2012, 11:59 PM

And UTAS has that spanking new Medical 1 building, and Medical 2 building scheduled for completion end 2012/beg 2013....gah!!

I believe this is their case for inflated fees, 3rd in Australia' after UMelb and USyd, and 33 in the world, as far as medical school is concerned.

http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/worl...cal-health.html

Ps. UMelb MD course fees are currently aud62.4k/year and USyd is just under aud61k/year, AFTER about aud100k tuition fees for the preceding bachelors 's degree.

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Added on February 5, 2012, 6:22 pmHi! Can you share what the journey has been like, and whether you wanted to do medicine from get go?

This post has been edited by podrunner: Feb 5 2012, 06:22 PM

Congratulations! Determination and perseverance paid off big time! Enjoy your course! Am I right about the course fees?

Shortage 2 years ago...what about this year? Were all 2011 graduates placed?

Right now, Australia has two main points against them, as far as international students are concerned, fees (currency not helping) and internship uncertainty, and many are turning once again, to UK and Ireland, although Ireland also no longer guarantee internships. Plus, the Canadians are everywhere!!

Shortage of med places in Canada grad entry because a lot have gotten their first degree, same system as US, and ALL med schools in Canada are grad entry, save for perhaps the special arrangement with IMU.

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Added on February 5, 2012, 9:33 pmAll the best Jolene!

This post has been edited by podrunner: Feb 5 2012, 09:33 PM

So they should give scholarships to those who made it to the main Clayton program! Unlikely to happen I know, just kidding.

There has been a change of policy regarding "recouping the costs of scholarship". What used to be just paying that nominal RM100k back to JPA for an overseas med degree is NO longer "available". Parents are now wholly liable for the entire sum of the scholarship. In any case, many did not apply for JPA as well to avoid mandatory service.

Not first year, but third year, and applicant needs to submit results for first and second year. This only applies to students doing medicine, dentistry and pharmacy courses, overseas.

good to know, they have not updated their website then!

So, cckkpr and I would really like to know the implications of graduating from a lesser known uni in the UK, in relation to F1 and F2 attachments and employment opportunities. Notwithstanding that UK is NOT a nice place to stay.
Eg, uni from 1994 Group against uni in Russell Group.

This post has been edited by podrunner: Feb 8 2012, 05:16 PM

Fixed? Liverpool charging 22.5k "fixed fee not available".

Unless it's specifically stated that fees are "fixed", one can painfully assume that it will increase, and make for that adjustment in the spreadsheet!

Will not be that drastic I reckon, although with Australia's decreasing number of undergraduate places and exorbitant fees, demand for UK places may increase, and when demand exceeds supply, the inevitable happens.