oh i see...i thought homegrown mean player that come from that club academy no matter what their nationality...

Fergie wants more consistency from his number 10.

Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson wants his star forward Wayne Rooney to be more consistent in front of goal this year, even though the 23-year-old England international has come out firing this season with six goals in as many games.

Fergie would like to see Rooney put up numbers with the consistency that his former United team-mate Ruud van Nistelrooy did. The Dutchman scored 150 in 219 appearance during his five seasons at Old Trafford, averaging one goal in every 1.46 games. Rooney's average currently stands at around a goal in every 2.36 games.

“There is no difference between this season and last in terms of desire or anything with Wayne; he is always wanting to score goals,” Ferguson said. “You get this with players who are developing, but he just needs consistency.

“He goes in bunches of sixes and sevens and then goes quiet for a few weeks. Ruud once went nine games in a row and scored just one goal in each game. If we can get that kind of consistency from Wayne, it will make a difference to him and us.

"He has started well with his scoring, but we need a couple of players to get us more than 20 goals. Our goal ratio last season was very poor.”

Ferguson is relying upon Dimitar Berbatov and Michael Owen to help United's No 10 with the scoring burden as the Red Devils adjust to life without Cristiano Ronaldo. Owen was brought in to function as the third striker behind Rooney and Berbatov, but Ferguson insists the former Liverpool striker will see plenty of action.

“Owen has not been involved and I explained that to him,” Ferguson said. “Owen doesn’t come into the equation because we are trying to get a blend of Berbatov and Rooney, but he will play plenty of games.

home grown rules mean the team from next season onward must at least have 17 HG players.. then total players register just 25players.. so we can include 8 player not from HG category..

mean Llajic, tosic, mame not consider as HG players and their appearance next year will be restricted greatly.. from our current 1st team player who dont fall under HG rule ar? vidic, evra, hargreaves, berba?

terbalik la u..... is 8 HG 17 not HG..

The Premier League have introduced a home-grown player rule which will come into effect from next season, alongside a limit on squad sizes.

From the 2010/11 campaign, the 20 Premier League clubs have voted to introduce measures which will see all teams required to have eight home-grown players out of a squad of 25.

Chief executive Richard Scudamore confirmed the changes, with clubs only able to make alterations to their squads during the two transfer windows.

"As of next season clubs will be required to have a squad named of up to 25 players, of which no more than 17 can be over the age of 21 and not home grown," Scudamore said.

"The definition of home grown is trained for three years under the age of 21 by somebody in the English and Welsh professional system.

"Clubs will have to declare their 25 at the end of August when the window shuts and then again at the end of January."

Players who are aged under 21 are eligible over and above the limit of 25 players per squad.

Incentive

Scudamore does not believe the move will encourage clubs to hoard young foreign players and claims the England team will ultimately reap the reward.

"It's not in the club's interests to stockpile players. It will make buying home-grown talent more attractive," he said.

"We're not going down the route of a nationality test but what this will mean is that you just can't buy a team from abroad.

"We think it will give clubs an extra incentive to invest in youth. We think that one of the benefits will be that it will help the England team."

All 20 Premier League members also agreed to adhere to a set of financial reporting rules designed to protect the viability and sustainability of the clubs.

Finances

"They will all have to annually submit accounts and future financial information," said Scudamore.

"At all times the board of the Premier League will be applying a test which basically says this: can the club fulfil its fixtures, pay off its creditors when they are due and also to meet obligations to the Premier League's contracts and partners?

"If the board believe a club is at risk of not meeting those obligations, it has to then step in and agree a budget for the running of that club. Any transfers can be embargoed.

"It's absolutely crucial that these clubs are run as ongoing viable concerns. These financial rules apply immediately.

"This is tied in, and we passed the rule during the summer, to a 'fit and proper person test'. At our club meeting last week, the clubs absolutely endorsed our position of not linking expenditure to income."

evans play for us since his teenage days
so i guess he's a homegrown player for us

Wonder if Ljajic will be eligible.

Home grown player? WTFBBQ?!!           

my bad
homegrown could be from Academy player with more than 3 years or English/Welsh player
in this case, we got Gazza, Giggs, Scholes, Foster, Brown, Evans, Fabio, Rafael, Gibson, Fletcher, Rooney, Owen, Macheda, Welbeck. Total of 14 players, am i right?

Chelsea and Liverpool just barely qualify for 8 players

edit - not sure did Fabio and Rafael fulfill the 3 years condition, and what if the player send to feeder club, does it consider as homegrown?

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Added on September 15, 2009, 1:04 pm

I guess ljajic will not qualify, he would consider as non homegrown player

VDS, Foster, PIG=3
Gary, Rio, Vida, Evans, Wes, Evra, O'Shea, Fabio, Rafael=9
Nani, Valencia, Obertan, Park, Tosic=5
Scholes, Fletcher, Giggs, Carrick, Gibson, Hargreaves=6
Rooney, Berba, Owen, Welbeck, Macheda=5
=28
This will mean, Ljajic and the other reserve players we have have no chance whatsoever to play in that season for the first team if we don't register them as part of the main squad of 25. This is a very stupid rule. I understand about the HG bit, but to just limit the team to 25 players.. sheesh. We have 28 players there. This rule will mean it will limit the chances for the youngsters more. What if a promising youngster came up, or a bunch of them and sometimes a chance came up to play them, but because of these stupid rules, we won't get to see them until next season if they make the cut into the main squad.

They talk about investing in the youth development, but they should bloody throw away the stupid 90mins/60miles rule first. Why are they run by a bunch of idiots! The clubs are finally starting to do well in Europe, and here they come with these rules..

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Added on September 15, 2009, 12:22 pmThey should make it a limit of 25 squad players.. but should allow those under certain age(20 maybe?) to be eligible without making the list. This rule will mean the clubs will buy HG players, but their own talented youngsters(those not special enough to be straight away impressing with the first team, but may take a while to grow) might not make it at all with these stupid rules.

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Added on September 15, 2009, 12:25 pm**
I didn't read properly, but they don't mean a max squad of 25 to be registered right? Hopefully not.

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Added on September 15, 2009, 12:38 pmOne things for sure it means Foster will now be confirmed as our future #1 unless we can find some other HG GK. That doesn't sound that bad at all. Foster look pretty good since the Chelsea game.

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Added on September 15, 2009, 12:40 pmGuess this is also why we've been signing a lot of youngsters lately, from abroad. We've prepared for it.

Wonder if Ljajic will be eligible.

I say let those players under certain age free to be called up whenever needed. It won't hurt taht much since the youngsters will get chances. But with this, if they're not in the list, they won't get to play at all..