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Pain_X
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 Sep 15 2009, 02:46 AM
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QUOTE(Wan @ Sep 15 2009, 01:35 AM) Well he was the one whoring himself talking about how AC Milan and the others wanted to buy him and him talking about $$ stuff, guess people got pissed off. A bit like the Heinze case, just doesn't involve their hated rivals and talk about the extra $$ stuff. It's more than annoying. He just tarnished his reputation by doing that. But wasn't that after the fans were complaining that he didnt have 'heart' (his dry patch) and then Milan got interested knowing his position was unsettled thus leading to the flirtations? lol. |
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boxsystem
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Sep 15 2009, 05:29 AM
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Why are we discussing about Ade? No one interested in the homegrown rule that is to be enforced next year? Chelsea and Liverpool are in deep shit now. As for us and Arsenal, are pretty much safe. And Chelsea was just being banned for two transfer windows? Premier League bring in home grown quotas» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « The Premier League has announced that from next season every team must name a squad of 25 players, of which eight must be home grown.
A home grown player is any player who has played for an English or Welsh club for three years before their 21st birthday.
At present every Premier League club already passes the test, though Chelsea and Liverpool both have the bare minimum of eight.
In addition, there will be tighter controls on the spending of top flight clubs.
Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore revealed: "As of next season clubs will be required to have a squad named of up to 25 players, of which no more than 17 can be over the age of 21 and not home grown.
"The definition of home grown is trained for three years under the age of 21 by somebody in the English and Welsh professional system. Clubs will have to declare their 25 at the end of August when the window shuts and then again at the end of January.
But Scudamore was quick to rubbish suggestions that the rule would encourage Premier League clubs to sign foreign teenagers to train in their Academy for three years.
"It's not in the club's interests to stockpile players. It will make buying home-grown talent more attractive,'' he insisted. "We're not going down the route of a nationality test but what this will mean is that you just can't buy a team from abroad.
"We think it will give clubs an extra incentive to invest in youth. We think that one of the benefits will be that it will help the England team.''
The Premier League will also introduce strict new controls on clubs' finances.
"They will all have to annually submit accounts and future financial information,'' said Scudamore. "At all times the board of the Premier League will be applying a test which basically says this: can the club fulfil its fixtures, pay off its creditors when they are due and also to meet obligations to the Premier League's contracts and partners?
"If the board believe a club is at risk of not meeting those obligations, it has to then step in and agree a budget for the running of that club. Any transfers can be embargoed. It's absolutely crucial that these clubs are run as ongoing viable concerns. These financial rules apply immediately.
"This is tied in, and we passed the rule during the summer, to a 'fit and proper person test'. At our club meeting last week, the clubs absolutely endorsed our position of not linking expenditure to income.'' Saus Ayam Masak MerahThis post has been edited by boxsystem: Sep 15 2009, 05:36 AM |
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nakata101
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Sep 15 2009, 06:31 AM
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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Sep 15 2009, 05:29 AM) Why are we discussing about Ade? No one interested in the homegrown rule that is to be enforced next year? Chelsea and Liverpool are in deep shit now. As for us and Arsenal, are pretty much safe. And Chelsea was just being banned for two transfer windows? Premier League bring in home grown quotas» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « The Premier League has announced that from next season every team must name a squad of 25 players, of which eight must be home grown.
A home grown player is any player who has played for an English or Welsh club for three years before their 21st birthday.
At present every Premier League club already passes the test, though Chelsea and Liverpool both have the bare minimum of eight.
In addition, there will be tighter controls on the spending of top flight clubs.
Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore revealed: "As of next season clubs will be required to have a squad named of up to 25 players, of which no more than 17 can be over the age of 21 and not home grown.
"The definition of home grown is trained for three years under the age of 21 by somebody in the English and Welsh professional system. Clubs will have to declare their 25 at the end of August when the window shuts and then again at the end of January.
But Scudamore was quick to rubbish suggestions that the rule would encourage Premier League clubs to sign foreign teenagers to train in their Academy for three years.
"It's not in the club's interests to stockpile players. It will make buying home-grown talent more attractive,'' he insisted. "We're not going down the route of a nationality test but what this will mean is that you just can't buy a team from abroad.
"We think it will give clubs an extra incentive to invest in youth. We think that one of the benefits will be that it will help the England team.''
The Premier League will also introduce strict new controls on clubs' finances.
"They will all have to annually submit accounts and future financial information,'' said Scudamore. "At all times the board of the Premier League will be applying a test which basically says this: can the club fulfil its fixtures, pay off its creditors when they are due and also to meet obligations to the Premier League's contracts and partners?
"If the board believe a club is at risk of not meeting those obligations, it has to then step in and agree a budget for the running of that club. Any transfers can be embargoed. It's absolutely crucial that these clubs are run as ongoing viable concerns. These financial rules apply immediately.
"This is tied in, and we passed the rule during the summer, to a 'fit and proper person test'. At our club meeting last week, the clubs absolutely endorsed our position of not linking expenditure to income.'' Saus Ayam Masak MerahYa, we no need worry about this, we got(Please correct if miss someone): 1.Gary Neville 2.Owen Hargreaves 3.Rio Ferdinand 4.Wes Brown 5.Michael Owen 6.Wayne Rooney 7.Ben Foster 8.Michael Carrick 9.Paul Scholes 10.Danny Welbeck 11.Ben Amos |
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redscorpion
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Sep 15 2009, 06:53 AM
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how about giggs and evans? they are counted too right?
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nakata101
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Sep 15 2009, 07:54 AM
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QUOTE(redscorpion @ Sep 15 2009, 06:53 AM) how about giggs and evans? they are counted too right? Not sure.... me quite blur about this, but they prefer home grown, right ??? Can anyone here explain this :"A home grown player is any player who has played for an English or Welsh club for three years before their 21st birthday."?? |
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skystrike
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Sep 15 2009, 08:35 AM
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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Sep 15 2009, 05:29 AM) Why are we discussing about Ade? No one interested in the homegrown rule that is to be enforced next year? Chelsea and Liverpool are in deep shit now. As for us and Arsenal, are pretty much safe. And Chelsea was just being banned for two transfer windows?
arsenal safe?? lmao.. |
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ToddStarz
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Sep 15 2009, 08:50 AM
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Sep 15 2009, 07:54 AM) Not sure.... me quite blur about this, but they prefer home grown, right ??? Can anyone here explain this :"A home grown player is any player who has played for an English or Welsh club for three years before their 21st birthday."?? a player need to be in english/welsh team for 3 years before 21years old. |
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gr8fr8
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Sep 15 2009, 09:12 AM
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QUOTE(skystrike @ Sep 15 2009, 08:35 AM) If im not mistaken, the rule apply to any player, regardless of nationalities, are eligible as long as he played for any English/Welsh team for at least 3 years before they turned 21. I think this rule is a bit better than FIFA(or is it UEFA) 6+5 rule. That just diminished the teams potential to be a better team which filled with talented individual, rather than just filled with mediocre individuals just to help the national team. |
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avars
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Sep 15 2009, 09:45 AM
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Getting Started
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QUOTE(gr8fr8 @ Sep 15 2009, 09:12 AM) If im not mistaken, the rule apply to any player, regardless of nationalities, are eligible as long as he played for any English/Welsh team for at least 3 years before they turned 21. I think this rule is a bit better than FIFA(or is it UEFA) 6+5 rule. That just diminished the teams potential to be a better team which filled with talented individual, rather than just filled with mediocre individuals just to help the national team. if dat is the case, then owen hargreaves doesnt count? and macheda is in? |
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cristiano7mu
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Sep 15 2009, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE "The definition of home grown is trained for three years under the age of 21 by somebody in the English and Welsh professional system." QUOTE(nakata101 @ Sep 15 2009, 06:31 AM) Ya, we no need worry about this, we got(Please correct if miss someone): 1.Gary Neville 2.Owen Hargreaves 3.Rio Ferdinand 4.Wes Brown 5.Michael Owen 6.Wayne Rooney 7.Ben Foster 8.Michael Carrick 9.Paul Scholes 10.Danny Welbeck 11.Ben Amos Dont think hargreaves is in this category. Maybe anderson yes. |
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O-haiyo
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Sep 15 2009, 09:57 AM
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Ya...hargreaves does not count as home grown.
Macheda, how long have it been since he joined us?
1 weakness with this rule, we can just buy players with 18 years of age and below, and when they turned 21, they are considered "HomeGrown". lol...
Added on September 15, 2009, 9:59 amYes, Macheda will be considered as Home Grown when he turned 21, but not at the moment.
This post has been edited by O-haiyo: Sep 15 2009, 10:02 AM
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avars
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Sep 15 2009, 10:05 AM
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Getting Started
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Sep 15 2009, 09:57 AM) Ya...hargreaves does not count as home grown. Macheda, how long have it been since he joined us? 1 weakness with this rule, we can just buy players with 18 years of age and below, and when they turned 21, they are considered "HomeGrown". lol...
Added on September 15, 2009, 9:59 amYes, Macheda will be considered as Home Grown when he turned 21, but not at the moment. he became home grown after the 3rd year, not necessarily when he turned 21 |
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alucard31
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Sep 15 2009, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(cristiano7mu @ Sep 15 2009, 09:52 AM) Dont think hargreaves is in this category. Maybe anderson yes. I dun think Anderson considered as HG player as well. He only played 2 years for our club so far.. We get him from Porto when 2007–08. |
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avars
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Sep 15 2009, 10:10 AM
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another thing is, we cannot use the other players that are outside the 25 list? becoming more like ucl rules
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skystrike
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Sep 15 2009, 10:12 AM
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oh i see...i thought homegrown mean player that come from that club academy no matter what their nationality...
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yhtan
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Sep 15 2009, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Sep 15 2009, 05:29 AM) Why are we discussing about Ade? No one interested in the homegrown rule that is to be enforced next year? Chelsea and Liverpool are in deep shit now. As for us and Arsenal, are pretty much safe. And Chelsea was just being banned for two transfer windows? Premier League bring in home grown quotas» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « The Premier League has announced that from next season every team must name a squad of 25 players, of which eight must be home grown.
A home grown player is any player who has played for an English or Welsh club for three years before their 21st birthday.
At present every Premier League club already passes the test, though Chelsea and Liverpool both have the bare minimum of eight.
In addition, there will be tighter controls on the spending of top flight clubs.
Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore revealed: "As of next season clubs will be required to have a squad named of up to 25 players, of which no more than 17 can be over the age of 21 and not home grown.
"The definition of home grown is trained for three years under the age of 21 by somebody in the English and Welsh professional system. Clubs will have to declare their 25 at the end of August when the window shuts and then again at the end of January.
But Scudamore was quick to rubbish suggestions that the rule would encourage Premier League clubs to sign foreign teenagers to train in their Academy for three years.
"It's not in the club's interests to stockpile players. It will make buying home-grown talent more attractive,'' he insisted. "We're not going down the route of a nationality test but what this will mean is that you just can't buy a team from abroad.
"We think it will give clubs an extra incentive to invest in youth. We think that one of the benefits will be that it will help the England team.''
The Premier League will also introduce strict new controls on clubs' finances.
"They will all have to annually submit accounts and future financial information,'' said Scudamore. "At all times the board of the Premier League will be applying a test which basically says this: can the club fulfil its fixtures, pay off its creditors when they are due and also to meet obligations to the Premier League's contracts and partners?
"If the board believe a club is at risk of not meeting those obligations, it has to then step in and agree a budget for the running of that club. Any transfers can be embargoed. It's absolutely crucial that these clubs are run as ongoing viable concerns. These financial rules apply immediately.
"This is tied in, and we passed the rule during the summer, to a 'fit and proper person test'. At our club meeting last week, the clubs absolutely endorsed our position of not linking expenditure to income.'' Saus Ayam Masak Merahif the homegrown rule apply, those English and Welsh price tag will be double up  QUOTE(redscorpion @ Sep 15 2009, 06:53 AM) how about giggs and evans? they are counted too right? Evans is from Northern Ireland, so i guess not counted |
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onemanshows
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Sep 15 2009, 11:13 AM
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I guess we can say that if we sign a player who is 18 or younger and he stays with us for 3 years or more, he'll automatically be a homegrown player.
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yhtan
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Sep 15 2009, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(SImPle PLan @ Sep 14 2009, 11:02 PM) Fans wanted Tevez to stay. It is SAF tat reluctant to fork out tat big sum of money. He would celebrate like Ade infront of SAF if he scored. Worst thing is if he sit on the bench during the game while SAF keeps smiling at him. i think he already have the intention to leave, just made some excuses to cover it up everything all about MONEY  |
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maxizanc
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Sep 15 2009, 11:15 AM
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To be simple, we don't have to worry about anything. Let's go back to Adebayor's case  lol |
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driftmeister
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Sep 15 2009, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 15 2009, 11:12 AM) if the homegrown rule apply, those English and Welsh price tag will be double up Evans is from Northern Ireland, so i guess not counted evans play for us since his teenage days so i guess he's a homegrown player for us |
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