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post Sep 11 2009, 07:12 PM

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Tosic should understand he is in a beneficial situation right now. Our wing play efficiency reduced after CR left and with Nani, Park, Valencia are not really stepping up to earn their place in starting 11, Tosic should take the chance and proved himself to others especially SAF that he deserve to be on the starting 11. One of the way to do it is go do in international duties and impressed the reserve team coaches. He able to did that and what is lacking now is SAF decision whether to give him a run or not.

IMO, Tosic can perform better than Park and Nani in terms of offensive duty. He is pacey and he can cross. He can cut and took on defender which impressed me. I can't said that I'm a big fan of his but I truly felt that he deserve a chance on the field. I sometimes hope one or two of the senior winger is not fit so he can have a chance on the field but SAF would rather throw Wellback at the wing instead of him sweat.gif He is a talent, no doubt about that but you can't always keep talent at bench or reserve him. He should on the starting 11, really hope can he shine and improve our wing play.
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QUOTE(rayz1031 @ Sep 11 2009, 07:12 PM)
Tosic should understand he is in a beneficial situation right now. Our wing play efficiency reduced after CR left and with Nani, Park, Valencia are not really stepping up to earn their place in starting 11, Tosic should take the chance and proved himself to others especially SAF that he deserve to be on the starting 11. One of the way to do it is go do in international duties and impressed the reserve team coaches. He able to did that and what is lacking now is SAF decision whether to give him a run or not.

IMO, Tosic can perform better than Park and Nani in terms of offensive duty. He is pacey and he can cross. He can cut and took on defender which impressed me. I can't said that I'm a big fan of his but I truly felt that he deserve a chance on the field. I sometimes hope one or two of the senior winger is not fit so he can have a chance on the field but SAF would rather throw Wellback at the wing instead of him sweat.gif He is a talent, no doubt about that but you can't always keep talent at bench or reserve him. He should on the starting 11, really hope can he shine and improve our wing play.
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Tosic's small but he's fast. Still remember his stepovers during pre-season matches. He needs to build his body strength though. The good thing now is we have a lot of wingers who can play both flanks,and our new boy obertan is able to do that too. Tosic may not get much of first team opportunities, but he is still playing for our reserve team. He will probably get his chances during league, fa cup and eventually when we have some leftover matches in group phase after an early qualifying into the knockout stage.

Nani didn't get much chances until ronaldo left, but now he's only 22...imagine that tongue.gif

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post Sep 11 2009, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(onemanshows @ Sep 11 2009, 03:42 PM)
What's Scholes' story?
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He's small.. back then too. He struggled with asthma, don't have much pace, short, small. If at other clubs, probably wouldn't have made it. Can't find the article, but there's a lot about him on that stuff. How they stuck with him, even with some of them thinking of releasing him. Thank god that didn't happen.
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another united fan underestimating nani.. he is our best winger now.. he has full of tricks, he's fast, he has a good shot, plus he can cross well using both feet
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post Sep 11 2009, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(rayz1031 @ Sep 11 2009, 07:12 PM)
Tosic should understand he is in a beneficial situation right now. Our wing play efficiency reduced after CR left and with Nani, Park, Valencia are not really stepping up to earn their place in starting 11, Tosic should take the chance and proved himself to others especially SAF that he deserve to be on the starting 11. One of the way to do it is go do in international duties and impressed the reserve team coaches. He able to did that and what is lacking now is SAF decision whether to give him a run or not.

IMO, Tosic can perform better than Park and Nani in terms of offensive duty. He is pacey and he can cross. He can cut and took on defender which impressed me. I can't said that I'm a big fan of his but I truly felt that he deserve a chance on the field. I sometimes hope one or two of the senior winger is not fit so he can have a chance on the field but SAF would rather throw Wellback at the wing instead of him sweat.gif He is a talent, no doubt about that but you can't always keep talent at bench or reserve him. He should on the starting 11, really hope can he shine and improve our wing play.
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Macheda, Evans, Rafael, Welbeck, Fabio.. SAF is not afraid to play them in games, depending on the occasion and the availability of other players. If Tosic impresses in training/reserve games, ad truly deserve his chances with the first team, he would get games. He just doesn't show enough yet.

Even Obertan even got ahead of him in the CL squad. Look fairly 'average' in the pre-season games. He still has a chance, but he need to show it. He looks like someone who can't beat defenders, can't cross and does nothing apart from that. His first game for us against Spurs I think was impressive I thought. Really look like a 'finer' but less busy version of Park. Need to show that part more rather try and play like A. Valencia does. He does better cutting inside.. his game for Serbia, against S. Africa I think where he scored 2 goals came when he played on the right.


Added on September 11, 2009, 8:51 pmNani's first season. 25(+14 subs) games, 4 goals, 11 assists(2nd behind Rooney that season for us). Last season of course he didn't really have a good season.. 6 goals, 2 assists in 23(+7 subs) games, but even Anderson didn't shine compared to the previous season. And last season as a team, we struggled a bit going forward. This season so far in 4 games, 2 goals and 1 assists. Not bad. He's our best option there on form right now.. and apart from the unknown(Obertan/Ljajic), potentially our best winger if he fulfill his potential.

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post Sep 11 2009, 09:21 PM

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so the match going to be on this saturday nite at 12 am or sunday's 12am?
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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Sep 11 2009, 09:21 PM)
so the match going to be on this saturday nite at 12 am or sunday's 12am?
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sunday 12.30am!saturday nite!coz after 12am,it changes to next day!get it?! smile.gif
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QUOTE(Wan @ Sep 11 2009, 09:42 PM)
Saturday night, Sunday morning. biggrin.gif
Means tomorrow night.
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yea!good explain!haha!
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post Sep 11 2009, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(MADReaLJL @ Sep 11 2009, 08:33 PM)
another united fan underestimating nani.. he is our best winger now.. he has full of tricks, he's fast, he has a good shot, plus he can cross well using both feet
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he doesn't have the vision, the speed, unpredictable and inconsistent
his tricks is mostly of those useless step overs
i didn't even remembet nani crossing even once that is ended with a goal...

his only assets is his powerful shot

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post Sep 11 2009, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(shay2k @ Sep 10 2009, 06:22 PM)
Dunno if anyone have seen this before...i think its new

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thats old already lor ... i saw it about 1 year sumting liao ... drool.gif
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Added on September 11, 2009, 10:36 pmanyone here know about where can i get Man utd season review in KL ?? i means sungai wang or Timesquare or tower record Lot 10 ??

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QUOTE(w3er @ Sep 11 2009, 10:27 PM)
he doesn't have the vision, the speed, unpredictable and inconsistent
his tricks is mostly of those useless step overs
i didn't even remembet nani crossing even once that is ended with a goal...

his only assets is his powerful shot
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hmm.. maybe u not watching the same manchester tongue.gif
with more matches and maturity he can be a world class player.
he seem like the best winger we got at moment so let just hv the faith

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QUOTE(Wan @ Sep 11 2009, 11:37 AM)
Agree with Wenger a bit. You can make a case if the club is irresponsible. But if the clubs genuinely took care of them, whats the problem? It's just a case of what sort of compensation the old club should get.. they need to work on that, since if their best young players get to leave for free, whats the point in having academy and stuff.
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united feeder clubs are paid quite well for the players they feed, help to transition from non-eu to eu player, and great loan deals for fledglings.
then of coz united and arsenal have a history of developing their own players.
there are clubs that only buy buy buy and sell sell....ruining careers of players, e.g. I thought Robinho and Saviola would be football gods but going to RM was the "best thing to do" rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Wan @ Sep 11 2009, 01:17 PM)
As long as they do it the right way, there's nothing wrong with what they did. It's  unfair to the 'feeder clubs' of course since they would lose the player(s) almost for nothing and they can do nothing about it, but that's up to the governing bodies to rectify. Make it so they can get compensation for the players they lose, or make it the young players between the age of xx-xx(xx-18 till they can sign a proper pro contract) under their books so that any other clubs wishing to get that player, have to go through the club. That way, it's up to the club whether to accept a bid or not.. they get money, the player(s) get a chance to further their career, and the buying club will have the player they wanted to develop further.. everyones happy.

As for Arsenal not having any English players.. look at them. They don't spend that much over the years. The stadium and their financial state, and even now they don't spend much on any players. Benitez should look at him before complaining he doesn't have money to spend, because Wenger hardly spend any, whether he has them or not is another matter. And English players cost A LOT. Even the young players cost a lot. And looking at the English players, only a select few are special. Rooney, Walcott.. who else? That's why he looks outside for his sources. It's not right, but he has to think whats right for his club. He looks for specific attributes in his players, and all his players are comfortable with the ball at their feet. The English players lack them.. and I would say, right now they have a few Englishmen starting to come out from their academy.

Again it goes back to the rules. In England they have this stupid rule of signing youth players only within 90mins of the club or something. They wanted to protect the small clubs, but in doing so, they somewhat stunted the development stage. The cream always rises to the top of course, but if you read about Scholes' story and the English mentality regarding how they play and develop players, you would know why that rule is stupid. If Scholes wasn't spotted by us, god knows what he might be doing right now.. still work at McD? who knows.
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this is why we're UNITED flex.gif notworthy.gif
wenger can spot talent but SAF goes beyond that, can spot a short, small, asthmatic, hot headed ginger who can't tackle into a world class player rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(w3er @ Sep 11 2009, 10:27 PM)
he doesn't have the vision, the speed, unpredictable and inconsistent
his tricks is mostly of those useless step overs
i didn't even remembet nani crossing even once that is ended with a goal...

his only assets is his powerful shot
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I would disagree with you at this point. He is probably one of the best player around now. He's trickery and it's hard for defenders to intercept him. It's still early of the season and he's improving. Whenever he gets the ball, i expect something real good from him. I still remember his combination with evra during chelsea's community shield match. It was real awesome.

I watched him during portugal's match and even he was a sub, he played really well(I did pay attention to him tho its a short time).. His corner kick even led to liedson's goal. smile.gif

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QUOTE(w3er @ Sep 11 2009, 10:27 PM)
he doesn't have the vision, the speed, unpredictable and inconsistent
his tricks is mostly of those useless step overs
i didn't even remembet nani crossing even once that is ended with a goal...

his only assets is his powerful shot
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Shock horror! A young player who doesn't play to his full capabilities consistently.

His pass to Owen.. His cross to Berba in the Arsenal game. That should have been a goal. I remember he did something similar to assist Rooney against Blackburn. His first season here he was the 2nd highest assist in our team. Last season of course he sort of had a 2nd season syndrome. As for unpredictable, that's a good thing The opposition wouldn't know what he'll do although that would be the same for our players. But he'll improve his delivery.

He was badly ruined by being in and out of the team too much last season. See how Ronaldo was earlier. Damn frustrating although he does have his good bits too. Same with what Nani is going through. And who would have thought Fletcher would become the player that he is today, a very important piece in our team currently as it stands if we just judge him on his first few seasons in the first team. It takes time with young players and we can't expect them to be special from day one and play consistently at a high level in almost each game. That's just not possible. He started the season brightly so far. More to come.

Hey may never be as good as Ronaldo/Rooney, but he'll be a damn fine winger for us if he fulfill his potential. Heck, just him getting consistency in his game would make him one of the best wingers around. That will come as he grow older.



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post Sep 12 2009, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(w3er @ Sep 11 2009, 10:27 PM)
he doesn't have the vision, the speed, unpredictable and inconsistent
his tricks is mostly of those useless step overs
i didn't even remembet nani crossing even once that is ended with a goal...

his only assets is his powerful shot
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you didn't get your fachts (oops, did i just said fachts? tongue.gif ) right before posting. First season, he was second best assist, second season although suffered from dip of form, but he still assisted few.

not every players are naturally gifted and become strong when they are young. Some players need 2, 3, 4 years to polish their skills before they finally developed into a good players. A good example will be our own Fletcher. Few season back he was shit and received a lot of critics from the fans but see how is he now? He become one of the important centre figure for us now. He is certain for a start in the middle while the likes of Carrick, Anderson, Scholes and Giggs have to battle to get another spot to play alongside with Fletcher.


The season just started, don't judge him too fast...judge him when when 1/2 season end. So far, he is doing ok for me. Besides Rooney, he is the second players in the team who is playing good football so far.
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