i dont think SAF is going to buy him (akinfeev)..i think its just a story that SAF creates to make sure that foster dont f**ked up like yesterday in another word, to remind foster that he's dispensable..

Foster nervous? How many chances can be given if he nervous all the times...
he made a lot of mistake not only this match...
He must be do more to prove he is able to take the 1st goalkeeper position from Van der sar...
No doubt Ferdinand should be blamed that he playing 'SKILL' at last moment....
Hope both of them will getting better after this lesson @@

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derby nervous is different than others..there's always a bit of added pressure in this kind of derby..as i said, its his first derby experience..for some, they can handle the pressure but some doesnt..

This post has been edited by scofield: Sep 22 2009, 01:45 AM

never like foster. he's given loads of chances just 'cos of he's bloody ingulis. if foster deserves a chance to prove his worth, i'd say PIG deserves it as well. the main difference here is the nationality. goddamnit!

sell foster.

We got PiG waiting eagerly to play and he sure knocking on SAF door to let him start and prove himself after Foster mistake during the derby. I agreed with the derby nervous and I believe all of the players will have goosebump and shivers on the field but we need a keeper that can live up to that kinda pressure and challenges. Foster so far have inconsistent performance. At one side he produced world class saved and at the other side he playing like an amateur. I just hoping that the goalkeeper problem won't come and haunt us again. We spend a lot of unnecessary cash on crapgoalkeeper and took us several seasons to find a suitable goalkeeper in the form of VDS but he is retiring soon. We need someone like him, tall and reliable. How I wish we snatch up Cech before Chelski

He won't do amazing stuff like Ronaldo did for us back then. But he will provide width and he will attack the LB and cross all game long. He provided that in the City game, although none of them got converted. His cross for Giggsy's shot was very good.

We replaced a lot of great players throughout our history. Maybe the replacement will come a few seasons later, or maybe not like for like or as good or better than 'great players' that left, but they all bring their own qualities that provide us with quality performances in their own way.

Robson, Ince=Keane, Irwin=Evra, Cantona=Teddy/Yorke, Beckham=Ronaldo, Keane=Fletcher/Ando/Carrick, Ruud=Ronaldo(goal scoring wise), Ronaldo=Rooney(goalscoring wise), Stam=Rio/Vida etc.. list goes on.

I'm sure we'll manage somehow after Giggs calls it a day. Nani is pretty unpredictable and able to create things, although not on the scale of Giggsy does, and Ando is a creative monster player as well.. he always like to thread those killer balls. And in Obertan if he does manage to broke his way through to the first team, will be a force down the wings. And who can forget about Berba although he plays in a different area compared to Giggs.

Hehe I'm sure you're joking.. right?
If SAF was that hell bent on being a bit bias in his selection, I'm sure Danny Simpson would have got a fair crack at RB instead of Rafael. But Simpson almost always never got a chance with SAF preferring the other non RB natural players in O'Shea/Wes/Pique before Rafael came into the picture.

i'm sensing fletch version 2....rmbr couple of years back all of us, well most of us kept on bashing how pariah fletch is, but saf stick with him...till what he is today?? the same thing might happen to foster as well, me thinks. saf will give u time to prove ur worth. once that "time" period is over, one may start packing his bag and off u go edi.

What I can see is that SAF is surely giving a lot of patience to Foster. Sino have a good point, Fletcher v2 in the form of Foster and I don't mind eating back my words if Foster 'did a Fletcher'. From pre-season until now, Foster is still shaky in terms of kicking and decision making. He have no problem with goalkeeping skills. If Foster wanted to keep his place in the starting lineup, he better work ten times better from what he is doing now as VDS is coming back in October. He will soon run out of time and chances and quoting from Sino "once that "time" period is over, one may start packing his bag and off u go edi."

yes, u guys can said another Fletcher in the making but Foster is GK. We all know Sir Alex never really keep faith in a keeper for so long unless he is that damn good (A Dane and a Dutchman here where he trusted the most) where the likes of Carroll, Howard, Bosnich, Barthez, Taibi all failed Sir Alex and I hope Foster won't be in the list too

Aside from the Chelsea game where he was shaky all game long, Foster have been fine IMO. Probably he could and should save Arshavin's shot, but it was a great shot with nobody closing him down and it's not like VDS haven't done similar mistake throughout his time here. I'm sure there's a few goals he let in he should have done better. Apart from those, Foster have been solid in every game and growing in confidence. Last night was a bad night all round for the defenders and him. Tevez chased everything and that made it hard. His first kick(I think) Tevez got to him first which luckily went out, and the 2nd time Tevez really punished us. Foster probably didn't realise Tevez was that fast/near to do that. Someone need to tell him he has a right foot. He will learn from that. And the third goal Bellamy speed killed him.. Rio didn't help him at all there, he should have boot it hard instead of doing that weak suicide pass, and should have take out Bellamy before he got to the penalty box. The test is how he does in the next game, or right after the mistake he made in games, and IMO he was fine aside from the mistakes in that City game. Probably need to see the game again to judge that, but he didn't look a nervous wreck every time the ball goes near him. Let's see how he does in the next league game, or in the next CC game if SAF picks him.

PIG=Backup. Foster=Potential 1st team GK.
That's the difference. That's why Foster have been getting chances and not PIG and if we really want to know whether Foster have what it takes to replace VDS(after he retire), we would keep him in goal till VDS gets back. If his performance surpass that of VDS, keep him there ahead of VDS, if not, let VDS back in. I'm sure SAF knows then whether he need to tell the owners to get a new GK or he put his trust in Foster to replace VDS when the time comes. 9 games is way too early to judge his career with us. Had had one very dogy game, one where maybe he should have done better with the goal he let it, and one where he made two mistakes(one bad fakap, one bad judgement) that cost us goals. The jury's still out, but aside from those moments in that 3 games, he has been really solid IMO and I have no problems whatsoever if SAF decided he would be our #1 when that time comes.

His kicking is a bit dodgy when he's pressured but after the Chelsea game he seem to found a way around that by playing passes to the defenders instead of booting it every time. Not sure what happened there in that City game cause his right ain't that bad too right? He seem to want to use his left all the time. Hope he works on that.

VDS may claim his place straightaway, but that doesn't mean Foster's time is over. He will still get chances throughout the season in a couple of league games here and there, a few meaningless CL games if we secure qualification early and the Cup games. I'm sure SAF has a clear idea on what he needs to do in that area then whether we need to buy another GK or we would stick with Foster. My take on that is unless we can find another VDS-level GK or better, we should just stick with Foster one season and see how it goes. We just need a solid GK, like VDS. If we can get someone better that would better of course. And since the Chelsea game and minus the City game, Foster showed he can be solid. Buying someone else is no guarantee it will be a success. We found it the hard way after the big Dane left. It's up to Foster to prove people wrong. Hope he does it because that HG thing will play a bigger role in the future I'm sure.

Robbo's direct replacement was Keano. Ince replacement was Nicky Butt. One of the reason why Sir Alex let Ince go(apart from he is getting too big for his head) even though he was our player of the season the year that he left, because of the emergence of one Nicky Butt.

i know the reason why we won against citeh
its hari raya.. all devils got out from jail already

How sure are you PIG can neva been the 1st team GK? he hasn't given any real chance.... ppl put more attention on foster mainly because he is english...and dun forget PIG was dropped by poland for not playing regularly...and still he keep his faith and stay with us....he shud be given a chance....

I'm totally fine with foster to be our GK or even PIG as our GK ...but how many blunder he is going to make every game? 1 is enough to kill us....remember we are manchester united.... he has to take his chance like wat fergie says everytime...IMO he did not grab this chance...I'm not pulling his leg...but if really wan to become man utd 1st choice keeper....he still has a lot aspect to improve...

GK can determine a game fate....and this season not only the other top 3 is pushing towards the top table, totehnham, man city and even AV is keeping up the pressure...

sorry but we just kenot because of foster young, naive, inexperience cause us the historic consecutive 4th title.....

This post has been edited by leongtat: Sep 22 2009, 03:27 AM

i think the reason why foster made that mistake is coz he wasn't brave enuff to clear the ball wit his right leg. i dun think he was tryin to be fancy.
and i thought he should have done better with bellamy's second goal...the angle was quite tight for bellamy but somehow foster let it slit in between him and the post...sad case.

giggsy, united should erect a statue for him XD

Bellamy is indeed very impressive. Both of his goals were perfectly executed. I rate him higher than any other of MC's strikers. Never wished he was on our team anyway...He's a potential Barton.

then, what on earth has he been doing during training then??? Ipod session ar?? i've nothing against u but foster is too overrated. the after match rating truly comments reflects him.

and on the statue for G11 part, i've only this:

and he kena 3-match ban edi. looks like they oni got $$$-grabber-teveth as a fit striker then.

VDS still need how long to recover from his finger injury ar..?? He couldnt be taking 2 season time for finger injury ryte....??

Maybe we can let VDS take over back when he is fit, and train kao that Ben Foster to see if he really have potential.

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Added on September 22, 2009, 9:56 amDerby match, in the MC team, only the 2 striker kena yellow card. All the striker in MC very kasar

This post has been edited by IcyDarling: Sep 22 2009, 09:56 AM

bellamy kena ban 'cos of the fan pitch invasion case. nothing else. fa decided a 3-match ban.

Yeah. One blunder can cost a game. Imagine that day Rooney and co. were off form and because of Foster's mistake, we ended up 1 - 0, he will be the first one gone in January or the latest off season transfer out.

Future United No.1 is a heavy tag for him because this been giving him a lot of pressures.

Van Der Sar can be a direct replacement for Peter Schmeichel..but in between there were a lot of failures like Raymond Van Der Gouw, Mark Bosnich, Massimo Taibi, Fabian Barthez, Roy Carroll and Tim Howard

So we don't have see another repeat of this before we eventually find a replacement for Van Der Sar after 2, 3, 4, 5 trials