Ashley Cole young? HAHAHHAAHAHAH

shows how much you know about football

This post has been edited by befitozi: Mar 16 2010, 09:16 PM

haha he didnt knew anything about higuain until this year.. so poor
higuain not really outshine this year only..

ask him to google

i think every club buy refined and the best diamonds but for me Real Madrid buy refined and the best diamonds the most, let look at the stat all Ronaldo, Cristiano Ronaldo, Kaka, Cannavaro, Zidane, Figo already a FIFA World Player Of The Year when join Madrid, Madrid also buy Owen after Liverpool`s striker win Ballon D`Or, Beckham join Madrid after he get 2nd in FIFA World Player Of The Year, i not deny Madrid convert promising player to be a star like Huguain and Robinho but the fact is Madrid is the club which buy many refined and the best diamonds the most.

The big spend become nothing if Madrid cant win La Liga this season, even i m not Madrid fan but we can assume that big spend is for UCL (La Liga is 2nd priority) because

1 Madrid`s performance in UCL really bad in last six year
2 Of course the want to be finalist since the finale is at Santiago Bernebue

All the players that you mentioned were bought during and after Perez's first era. But with the money generating machine that we have I don't see why it's a problem. Prior to that we had a squad that were predominantly in-house quite similar to Barca now: Butragueno with his famous Vulture squad. But we were nowhere near European glory at that time either (mainly because Spanish football was behind at that time) so there's food for thought. Madrid have always been about winning trophies. So we don't really care where the players come from as long as they are good enough and they form a competitive team. And that's all there is to it really. All the bickering about diamonds, raw or polished and what not are nonsense imo. It's so subjective that you can question where do you draw the line for someone to qualify as a raw diamond or not.

Santiago Bernabeu (our best president by a long mile) set the blueprint for us and it's been part of our DNA ever since: we will form the best team we can from whatever resources and win as many trophies as possible. It's an idealistic goal but it's something that's worth going for. And the results speak for themselves frankly.
That said what Perez is attempting (and has attempted in his previous regime) is not what Bernabeu would endorse. He'll be rolling in his grave with some of the decisions that Perez has taken. Bernabeu was strictly a football man, having played for the club professionally and he understood the game better than Perez ever will. But there is light in the tunnel for Perez. He has to exercise patience and not indulge in any knee jerk reactions.

Shows how much you don't understand sarcasm

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Added on March 16, 2010, 11:10 pmSo you do admit that RM buys only proven players.

And about the diamond thing, easy.
Show pony Ronaldo = Raw
42 goal Ronaldo = Polish till sparkles can blind people.
Unless you think show pony ronaldo is polished then yeah, it's subjective.
There are no fine line, but you can definitely see the difference.

This post has been edited by DimSumGuy: Mar 16 2010, 11:18 PM

RVN was well-known striker at that time.. i know him before he was transferred to MU.. how? thanks to Football manager.. at that time known as championship manager.. so i think.. im answering ur question rite?

please.. stop embarrassing urself.. do u realize that u are showing how small ur knowledge.. even about ur own club..

There you have it, I'm certain you didnt heard of him for his goal scoring prowess.
I'm certain if you're are a spaniard, you will never heard of a person call Cristiano Ronaldo during the 04-05 season
Then suddenly boom, during 07-08 season newspapers were writing something like "Manchester United Winger scores 42 goal and help to win the English Premier League and Champions League".

My question is: So what?

Seriously I don't get why you want to hammer this point over and over again. Makes no difference to me if you think MU buys unpolished diamonds only which I might add is totally untrue. Any decent true MU fan will tell you that.
And I mean subjective because you assume the likes of RVN as unpolished when MU bought him. Regardless whether many ppl knew about RVN at that time or not, his skillset was pretty much polished.
And by trying to prove yourself right you dismiss the likes of Higuain as an unknown still when it's quite obvious we "polished" him. How about Sergio Ramos then? And funny you mention Arbeloa earlier cause you obviously didn't know that he came from our youth setup.

You prove nothing to me other than that you're a fool with little knowledge about what you are talking about in the first place.

hahaha... epic statement.. grow-up boy.. be fair and realistic... most of us know promising and talented young player by playing FM.. i would say MOST OF US.. we cant understand reading in Spanish.. either Italian and so others.. so how the hell we know their story specifically in football.. by playin FM.. i know, vincent kompany, freedy guarin, marcelo, freedy adu.. cavinaghi, and even top player like david villa, torres, aguero, tevez.. pazzini and many more... much earlier before their peak..

so, that why i would say.. we know player thru FM and reading from internet (lately).. we are not football pundit, and to know every players in the world is just ridiculous.. even manager donot know who are the best player of certain country rite now.. so, that why they have scout.. to help them..(if u donot know what is function of scout.. please as mr google..)

im la-liga fan.. and im following others leagues as well.. just to know what is happening and who is transfer in and out every years.. so obviously, player who transfer to big club will catch media attention and so do us.. so same goes to football fan around the world.. EXCEPT U.. coz u didnt even know who are higuan until this season.. iknow CR before he transfer to MU.. becoz he did trashed u during friendly match.. same goes to nani.. and even RVN.. so, i think... spanish knows who is CR when he transfer to MU.. and do u know who is CR idol? he also playing with us last time.. and that why madrid is one of his dream-club..

btww.. do u know who is oberton before transfer to MU? and i beleves.. u dont.. even MU fan was asking who the hell he is at the first place.. so be realistic.. and more important thing.. grow up..

This post has been edited by sprix: Mar 17 2010, 02:01 PM

I didnt say that, I just said RM buys polished diamonds only.

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Added on March 17, 2010, 7:32 pmWell, Obertan is still not a good player yet, even now( after moving to Man Utd and such ). So no suprise there that we don't know him.
Do you think RM pay attention to this guy right now? Do you think they will when he score 42 goals in the next 3-4 years later? Same case for Ronaldo. RM only target player with proven talent at their peak( not actually peak but they will still buy if that player is making quite a buzz around europe [Benzema's case]) but not young players with good potential.


This post has been edited by DimSumGuy: Mar 17 2010, 07:32 PM

DimSum's post somehow indicates that he is jealous that Real Madrid is able to attract and buy top stars



This post has been edited by IcyDarling: Mar 17 2010, 07:58 PM

@dimsumguy

hehe. there's nothing wrong to buy best player. they got money..let them be la. y? ur club got many debts? (err..what club ur support aaa). we need a competent (and eternal) rivals like real madrid to be our sparring partner for la liga titles.

just my 0.0002 cent.

Which is again untrue. You can harp about it a million times but we've already given you examples. Higuain, Ramos and Marcelo are currently regulars in the lineup who we've bought and "polished".
The fact that you continually choose to ignore them just shows how desperate you are in winning this debate (which you are not I might add)

So now Benzema is not a young player with good potential? Now I've heard it all.
MU was interested in buying Benzema as well. Which begs the question: if MU did buy Benzema would you have changed your tune and said Benzema is an "unpolished" talent?

This guy still embarrassing himself. Kih Kih Kih.

This post has been edited by botaknet: Mar 17 2010, 09:43 PM

No laa verx... u must understand.. when RM buy player.. all of them change form raw to polish diamond instantly.. but when MU did the same.. from polished diamond.. automatically become fade and their club will polish those players.. hahaha and claim as one of their product.. LOLOLOLOL...

It is rare to see a cule back RM up But in this case, I fail to see what is so 'grande' about Man Utd success in nurturing CR and Rooney, compared to what RM do with Higuain/Ramos. Is it because RM bought CR with big money? Do they ever wonder what kind of money is required to price Ramos away from RM? And their lack of knowledge of La Liga blinds them from realizing the true value of Higuain in RM's star studded squad.

About Higuain's case, well, I was amused by Marca's rants towards him last week. They are really crazy. LOLz

..woah....verx main DAO weh....what character u using eh??

Another good one is Negrado & Eto

lol off topic

My main is an elf mage which I'm using on Awakening now. Have a human rogue (completed) and dwarf warrior (incomplete) also.

how about cambiasso, mata, soldado..

no more dimsumguy