people in here are discussing about the team, the managers are not reading forum and listen what people talk in here. so people in here has nothing to do with the team failure.

I would rather that quarter billion be invested into education so that idiots like you can be eradicated for good.
And how did you come to that conclusion? Getting eliminated in a knockout competition = failure? How about failing to even get past the group stages like MU a few years back? Didn't that team take time to mature as well?

haha keyboard warriors.

Who are the players do you think RM is getting? A left back? Who's in the list ?

We spent a quarter of a billion not to try to win UCL but to rebuild a team albeit in an express manner. But obviously you wouldn't know the difference.
And I believe who laughs last laughs best.

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Added on March 11, 2010, 7:42 pm
A leftback and a wide midfielder who can play box-to-box preferably.

No I'm not laughing. But it seems you have a little problem comprehending simple English.

And lol at the guy who thinks that a club would spend quarter of a billion not to build a squad but to win a knockout tournament just for that particular year.
Go figure.

Not thinking far enough? You were implying that we spent the money to win the UCL this year. You can't argue both sides of the argument stupid.
And who's to say we won't win any silverware in the future? You can predict the future now? Why don't you tell me who will win this year and next year's UCL then; I'll place a bet straightaway

It's simple really. At the start of this season anyone with any decent knowledge about football would have known it's nearly impossible for a newly assembled squad to win the CL. I sure as hell didn't put us as favourites to win.
And it doesn't matter if we get knocked out now or in the quarters or semis; for a competition like CL it's either you win it or you don't. Now I suggest you quit embarrassing yourself any further.

just ignore them.. no point at all..
let they happy with their team @their own thread..

and i would also like to say Joker : who so serious ?!

we are spending 250m to build up the team.. we are among the youngest team in Europe.. and im proud of it.. sometime, we have to invest something, to get a better things... simple rite?

so.. same thing applied here.. we are spending to build-up the team.. and at the same time..  we TRY to win something and maybe more in the future.. but if we dont.. the investment is still there.. and we can keep on tryin..

i wonder.. what would u say if..in the future we win CL consecutively with this team, much mutual team just like barca rite now? i bet.. i will say.. "Alaaaa... any team can win CL like they have alot of money and buy stars player" or u will come here with diff username and support RM.. LOL..

The Money issue will always be connected to us.. being the richest club in the world comes with purpose.. to be the best. Whether we would've won CL or not.. it would still be about the money.. "Well with 250mil anyone can win the CL" or .. " Even with 250mil still cannot win the CL" its a stupid argument that one.. I mean come on, if you supporters from other teams wanted us to win the CL this year.. we could've just bought ourselves the silverware.. but NO, we stuck it out.. bought new players.. developing our brand of football that the fans will love.. and that is so envied by any other supporter out there..

Let me ask you "other" fans out there.. all the trolls who seriously watch some football,  What happens when your team is at its lowest? Having star players.. losing in lowly defeats.. being kicked out the CL.. Thats when you learn about being a "REAL" fan.. sticking to your teams.. be a fan.. be a man.

Oh.. and for the Trolls.. even if your team wins by 11 goals.. YOU didnt score.. so stop being all high and mighty.

Oh now you know Ronaldo's future plan, are you his BFF or what? Anyway donate your ten bucks to your "poor club" as they need it more.

Yes we are the Richest club because we have our own TV rights, Yes we are not a building team, and yes most of our purchase are not youngsters who needs proper training and guidance before they can perform for a club such as madrid.

So you asked us to face the facts right. So, let's face the fact. Madrid are the richest club in the world, so what's wrong with buying the best players in the world when we have less to think about financially.

RM bought players that have the class and ability to play for them. Aren't Granero, Arbeloa, Lassana, Higuain, Marcelo, Gago, Garay and Benzema youngsters? Didn't they grew up to play better than before? (except for the newcomers which we have to wait to see them shine).

Do you understand the word rebuild? Just because we use that word doesn't mean we have to target youngsters only. It's the similar attempt but the difference is Madrid targeted players with quality rather than young players in the last summer.

Know one thing dude, old players that can inspire a team SOMETIMES are more important than buying bunch of youngsters. Wenger altered his policy by choosing to add Campbell and Arshavin to his current squad. That has to say something, right?

Ah the trolls are back. or maybe they're the same person who knows

And such genius remarks I might add. I didn't know buying players was exclusive to us only. We are the only club that "buys a team".
MU didn't buy Rooney. They literally built him. They also didn't buy the likes of Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, Van der Saar, Carrick, Berbatov, Nani, Anderson, Valencia.
Oh and Arsenal didn't buy Arshavin, Nasri, Rosicky, Fabregas, Gallas, Vermaelen.
Chelsea didn't buy Drogba, Anelka, Ballack, Essien, Obi Mikel, Malouda, Cole, Carvalho.

Need I go on? Seriously the rubbish that comes out from you morons I actually wonder where you bother to engage your brains before typing whatever brilliant idea that pops into your head. It can't be that hard can it?

can beat our record = 9 times as a champ's in ucl ? 
MU never got eliminated in cl huh? what a childish statement.... 

and...JOKER : why so serious....?

hahaha... typical fanboyz statement.. get a life dude.. every team in the CL is in the same position except for the team that win the cup.. just the matter of time.. 

opsss.. sorry for attracting CR9 to play with us..   

great result.. and we are on our way to break the club record of the most goal scored in a season.. if im not mistaken 104 rite? or 107? haha.. lazy to check.. 

wahh.. so many trolls arr these days... they are just waiting us to lose and then come here to bash us.. with bunch of stupid facts.. come on guys.. grow up.. talking with facts.. not becoz u r losing ur star.. then u hate us.. the why become the richest club is not easy arr...

people will hate us like hell as we marked as a buying team.. not built team.. bla..bla..bla..  hahhaa... what can i see is.. just jealousy statement becoz losing their stars and incapability of their club to do the same like us.. hahaha

yes.. please.. i want to see how long is ur list.. 

i LOL-hard with ur statement.. so, how about, higuan, gago, marcelo, ramos, garay, albiol, canalas and many more.. so are they complete product to u?  do u know who is higuan n gago before real madrid bought them?

Did u beloved club bought ronney from roadside? he is everton product and he is well-known young player, the most promising young player and among the youngest player scored in PL.. before u steal him form everton.

what i mean is.. every clubs did the same in this buying player matters..   

my friend.. i think better u stop embarrassing urself with this kind of statement.. i,ll answer ur question in simplest way and straight to the point.

1. Robinho
we bought robinho from santos, where he is rite now. During his day in santos, he was just promising youngster just like who rooney are during his day at everton ..we bought him and refine him.. become one of the most expensive player in BPL.

2. kaka
RM keen to buy kaka along time ago.. since 1st galactico project.

3. Xabi alonso.
Same like kaka, RM want to buy this guys since he was playin with real sociedad.. before he transfered to liverpool.. do u know which team that is? .. i guess ur not.. so research more.

4. Arbeloa
do u rate arbeloa as a star? if yes.. we are doin a good job in changing him to a star.. to me he is just moderate player.. and as i said, not all player bought by us is a compete product..

5. Higuan.
nuff said... 

last but not least... and the best part.. (coz i LOL-ed very very hard  )

RVN.
before MU bought him.. he is the top scorer in Eredivisie (holand) with PSV Eindhoven.. 

so what u say?  MU only buy raw diamond? 

Ashley Cole young? HAHAHHAAHAHAH

shows how much you know about football

All the players that you mentioned were bought during and after Perez's first era. But with the money generating machine that we have I don't see why it's a problem. Prior to that we had a squad that were predominantly in-house quite similar to Barca now: Butragueno with his famous Vulture squad. But we were nowhere near European glory at that time either (mainly because Spanish football was behind at that time) so there's food for thought. Madrid have always been about winning trophies. So we don't really care where the players come from as long as they are good enough and they form a competitive team. And that's all there is to it really. All the bickering about diamonds, raw or polished and what not are nonsense imo. It's so subjective that you can question where do you draw the line for someone to qualify as a raw diamond or not.
Santiago Bernabeu (our best president by a long mile) set the blueprint for us and it's been part of our DNA ever since: we will form the best team we can from whatever resources and win as many trophies as possible. It's an idealistic goal but it's something that's worth going for. And the results speak for themselves frankly.
That said what Perez is attempting (and has attempted in his previous regime) is not what Bernabeu would endorse. He'll be rolling in his grave with some of the decisions that Perez has taken. Bernabeu was strictly a football man, having played for the club professionally and he understood the game better than Perez ever will. But there is light in the tunnel for Perez. He has to exercise patience and not indulge in any knee jerk reactions.

RVN was well-known striker at that time.. i know him before he was transferred to MU.. how? thanks to Football manager.. at that time known as championship manager.. so i think.. im answering ur question rite? 

please.. stop embarrassing urself..  do u realize that u are showing how small ur knowledge.. even about ur own club..

My question is: So what?

Seriously I don't get why you want to hammer this point over and over again. Makes no difference to me if you think MU buys unpolished diamonds only which I might add is totally untrue. Any decent true MU fan will tell you that.
And I mean subjective because you assume the likes of RVN as unpolished when MU bought him. Regardless whether many ppl knew about RVN at that time or not, his skillset was pretty much polished.
And by trying to prove yourself right you dismiss the likes of Higuain as an unknown still when it's quite obvious we "polished" him. How about Sergio Ramos then? And funny you mention Arbeloa earlier cause you obviously didn't know that he came from our youth setup.

You prove nothing to me other than that you're a fool with little knowledge about what you are talking about in the first place.

hahaha... epic statement..  grow-up boy.. be fair and realistic... most of us know promising and talented young player by playing FM.. i would say MOST OF US.. we cant understand reading in Spanish.. either Italian and so others.. so how the hell we know their story specifically in football.. by playin FM.. i know, vincent kompany, freedy guarin, marcelo, freedy adu.. cavinaghi, and even top player like david villa, torres, aguero, tevez.. pazzini and many more... much earlier before their peak..

so, that why i would say.. we know player thru FM and reading from internet (lately).. we are not football pundit, and to know every players in the world is just ridiculous..  even manager donot know who are the best player of certain country rite now.. so, that why they have scout.. to help them..(if u donot know what is function of scout.. please as mr google..)

im la-liga fan.. and im following others leagues as well.. just to know what is happening and who is transfer in and out every years.. so obviously, player who transfer to big club will catch media attention and so do us.. so same goes to football fan around the world.. EXCEPT U..  coz u didnt even know who are higuan until this season..  iknow CR before he transfer to MU.. becoz he did trashed u during friendly match..  same goes to nani.. and even RVN..  so, i think... spanish knows who is CR when he transfer to MU.. and do u know who is CR idol? he also playing with us last time.. and that why madrid is one of his dream-club..

btww.. do u know who is oberton before transfer to MU? and i beleves.. u dont.. even MU fan was asking who the hell he is at the first place.. so be realistic.. and more important thing.. grow up..     

how about cambiasso, mata, soldado.. 

no more dimsumguy 

I can't believe you hang on to that chart to support your argument. Any other good players(according to me) like Ramos or Barca's Alves can replace anyone outside top 5.

Oh yeah, Alves is not there right? How on earth Messi's partner at the right for the whole last season is not there? Why Forlan is there, while Alves is not there? Diego? Dzeko? Gourcuff? Something wrong with that chart, don't you think so?

Your argument is weak. Try again if you wish

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Added on March 20, 2010, 4:54 pmOh, and watch more football dude

How about they got no money they nurture..for some that have money...they will buy...nothing wrong from my point of view...they paid to play...but both have the same aim to improve the team..and both also want a talented player..one nurture the talented players...some buy the talented players