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quithrilius
post Mar 13 2010, 01:23 PM

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i agree.. i think Pellegrini should stay.. what he has done in half this season is somewhat amazing..
as for Guti.. i dont think he outshines the others.. i think he has his times playing good football .. I think he's a really good second half player.. like the 2nd leg with lyon.. he was easily frustrated.. so in my books.. easily.. Guti = Uber sub
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QUOTE(sprix @ Mar 12 2010, 09:41 AM)
we are spending 250m to build up the team.. we are among the youngest team in Europe.. and im proud of it.. sometime, we have to invest something, to get a better things... simple rite?

so.. same thing applied here.. we are spending to build-up the team.. and at the same time..  we TRY to win something and maybe more in the future.. but if we dont.. the investment is still there.. and we can keep on tryin..

i wonder.. what would u say if..in the future we win CL consecutively with this team, much mutual team just like barca rite now? i bet.. i will say.. "Alaaaa... any team can win CL like they have alot of money and buy stars player" or u will come here with diff username and support RM.. LOL..
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10 bucks says if RM don't win anything for the next 2 years maybe, Ronaldo will leave. He's just not used to winning nothing after winning shitload of silverware during his days at Man Utd. Barcelona seems favourite.


Added on March 13, 2010, 4:13 pm
QUOTE(quithrilius @ Mar 12 2010, 02:04 PM)
The Money issue will always be connected to us.. being the richest club in the world comes with purpose.. to be the best. Whether we would've won CL or not.. it would still be about the money.. "Well with 250mil anyone can win the CL" or .. " Even with 250mil still cannot win the CL" its a stupid argument that one.. I mean come on, if you supporters from other teams wanted us to win the CL this year.. we could've just bought ourselves the silverware.. but NO, we stuck it out.. bought new players.. developing our brand of football that the fans will love.. and that is so envied by any other supporter out there..

Let me ask you "other" fans out there.. all the trolls who seriously watch some football,  What happens when your team is at its lowest? Having star players.. losing in lowly defeats.. being kicked out the CL.. Thats when you learn about being a "REAL" fan.. sticking to your teams.. be a fan.. be a man.

Oh.. and for the Trolls.. even if your team wins by 11 goals.. YOU didnt score.. so stop being all high and mighty.
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That's when you learn to be a fan of poorer club too. You take every single advantage you have to taunt them when they are down. Especially when getting knockout in the EXACT same stage for the past.. 5-6 years? Despite this year 250m is spent.

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Oh now you know Ronaldo's future plan, are you his BFF or what? Anyway donate your ten bucks to your "poor club" as they need it more. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 13 2010, 07:00 PM

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DimSumGuy.. its not about how poor or rich the club is.. only people like you who make football sounds like everything is about money..
And youre the type of guy who switches clubs just cause its the only club he knows or just cause they win.. and when they lose you switch again.. and is always the one to say "I've always supported the Club and bla bla bla* .. Why wanna bet 10 bucks on 2 years.. since your confident.. go for 20 years.. and why 10 bucks.. just shut up and we'll take it more than your money.
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spent 250m in one summer means nothing....like all have said, it needs time to gel... they're still human afterall. pellegrini to stay. he can't do shit if perez decides to fire him this summer, which seems to be a norm to the public 'cos of all the $$$ spent as well as the all-eyes-on-RM thingie....

which manager has stayed more than 1 season since del bosque left?? None! i hope perez learnt his lesson since the era of the 1st galacticos...pls improve the squad evenly...not just attack attack attack or the "you score 1, i'll score 2" kinda thinking anymore....time has changed, so as world football.

don't flame me, i'm just voicing out my concern on RM.
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Mar 13 2010, 07:15 PM)
spent 250m in one summer means nothing....like all have said, it needs time to gel... they're still human afterall. pellegrini to stay. he can't do shit if perez decides to fire him this summer, which seems to be a norm to the public 'cos of all the $$$ spent as well as the all-eyes-on-RM thingie....

which manager has stayed more than 1 season since del bosque left?? None! i hope perez learnt his lesson since the era of the 1st galacticos...pls improve the squad evenly...not just attack attack attack or the "you score 1, i'll score 2" kinda thinking anymore....time has changed, so as world football.

don't flame me, i'm just voicing out my concern on RM.
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Actually, Schuster managed a season and a half before Juande Ramos came.
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post Mar 13 2010, 08:33 PM

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Face it, Real needs a proven manager. Pallergini is not proven, the biggest he has won is UEFA Intertoto cup in 2004

do we need want him to learn how to win trophies at our expense? we need someone with proven track record like Jose and Wenger.

all of you hoping for Pallergini to learn how to win are dreaming.

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post Mar 13 2010, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(gto87 @ Mar 13 2010, 06:57 PM)
Oh now you know Ronaldo's future plan, are you his BFF or what? Anyway donate your ten bucks to your "poor club" as they need it more. biggrin.gif
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Not his BFF, just his once former loyal fan. When he was at Man Utd, fail to retain the UCL despite got the BPL trophy and he move to RM. Imagine if RM fail to win anything? Rage quit do you think so?
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post Mar 13 2010, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Mar 13 2010, 07:15 PM)
spent 250m in one summer means nothing....like all have said, it needs time to gel... they're still human afterall. pellegrini to stay. he can't do shit if perez decides to fire him this summer, which seems to be a norm to the public 'cos of all the $$$ spent as well as the all-eyes-on-RM thingie....

which manager has stayed more than 1 season since del bosque left?? None! i hope perez learnt his lesson since the era of the 1st galacticos...pls improve the squad evenly...not just attack attack attack or the "you score 1, i'll score 2" kinda thinking anymore....time has changed, so as world football.

don't flame me, i'm just voicing out my concern on RM.
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Indeed, not only Perez but the whole squad need to learn the lesson, a lesson which can only be learned if they're willing to be patient.

p/s nobody gonna flame you la. hahaha~

QUOTE(powerfulcool @ Mar 13 2010, 08:33 PM)
Face it, Real needs a proven manager. Pallergini is not proven, the biggest he has won is UEFA Intertoto cup in 2004

do we need want him to learn how to win trophies at our expense? we need someone with proven track record like Jose and Wenger.

all of you hoping for Pallergini to learn how to win are dreaming.
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Proven huh?
I need to remind you about a guy that won every single tournament in his first year with a 1st division club. whistling.gif rclxub.gif

All wenger did was to implement his style in a team where he have been the head coach for YEARS. Even then, he didn't even manage to be the biggest thread in EPL and in UCL every season. Just because you progress to the latter stage of any tournament doesn't mean you win it, right? The same goes to Jose when he can't even manage to lead Chelsea to the final stage of that tournament which was easily done by Avram Grant (he even managed to beat Liverpool which was known as an impossible task for Jose in UCL). So, was Avram Grant considered as proven when he first took the job? Or is he considered as a proven coach now? rolleyes.gif

Take into account that this is a new management + New Head coach + fully overhauled squad + not even one season together. It's easier to understand if I break it down, right? So I don't need to state what is the squad missing now. It's just their spending + recent history will haunt them whenever they stumble.

To be proven, you have to prove something, am I right? So I guess Pellegrini is proven in my book (and in many Madridistas book)since he managed to change this team the way I (we) like it. cool2.gif

QUOTE(DimSumGuy @ Mar 13 2010, 09:03 PM)
Not his BFF, just his once former loyal fan. When he was at Man Utd, fail to retain the UCL despite got the BPL trophy and he move to RM. Imagine if RM fail to win anything? Rage quit do you think so?
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Haha, didn't Ronaldo voiced his desire a couple of seasons before the finale in Rome. If you really are his loyal fan you should know that Ronaldo by all mean is not a quitter and he will never quit until he achieved everything he wanted. He did just that with United which is why he voiced out about moving to Madrid after he won the UCL and the League title with ManU. Sir Alex stalled the move for another season. wink.gif

Rage quit? I don't think so.. cheers.gif
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QUOTE(powerfulcool @ Mar 13 2010, 08:33 PM)
Face it, Real needs a proven manager. Pallergini is not proven, the biggest he has won is UEFA Intertoto cup in 2004

do we need want him to learn how to win trophies at our expense? we need someone with proven track record like Jose and Wenger.

all of you hoping for Pallergini to learn how to win are dreaming.
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Was Del Bosque proven when he was given the job? Was Schuster proven? Was Wenger proven when he took over Arsenal?

Pellegrini has taken a modest side like Villarreal to the CL semis before which is more than we've achieved the last 6 years.
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QUOTE(powerfulcool @ Mar 13 2010, 08:33 PM)
Face it, Real needs a proven manager. Pallergini is not proven, the biggest he has won is UEFA Intertoto cup in 2004

do we need want him to learn how to win trophies at our expense? we need someone with proven track record like Jose and Wenger.

all of you hoping for Pallergini to learn how to win are dreaming.
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Alex Ferguson won everything and broke Celtic and Rangers dominance in Scotland.

Yet he finished 11th in his first season with ManUtd.

So he should have been sacked straight away?
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QUOTE(verx @ Mar 11 2010, 07:40 PM)
We spent a quarter of a billion not to try to win UCL but to rebuild a team albeit in an express manner. But obviously you wouldn't know the difference.
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A leftback and a wide midfielder who can play box-to-box preferably.
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Rebuild my arse. Let's face the facts here. You guys are not building a team. Building a team takes effort as well as time. You guys are just buying a team. Just becuase the players you happen to buy are young does not mean that you are buying for the future. If ronaldo was 28 you would have bought him in as well. Just face the facts. And the reason why you guys are the "richest" is because you guys have your own television rights.
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Yes we are the Richest club because we have our own TV rights, Yes we are not a building team, and yes most of our purchase are not youngsters who needs proper training and guidance before they can perform for a club such as madrid.

So you asked us to face the facts right. So, let's face the fact. Madrid are the richest club in the world, so what's wrong with buying the best players in the world when we have less to think about financially.

RM bought players that have the class and ability to play for them. Aren't Granero, Arbeloa, Lassana, Higuain, Marcelo, Gago, Garay and Benzema youngsters? Didn't they grew up to play better than before? (except for the newcomers which we have to wait to see them shine).

Do you understand the word rebuild? Just because we use that word doesn't mean we have to target youngsters only. It's the similar attempt but the difference is Madrid targeted players with quality rather than young players in the last summer.

Know one thing dude, old players that can inspire a team SOMETIMES are more important than buying bunch of youngsters. Wenger altered his policy by choosing to add Campbell and Arshavin to his current squad. That has to say something, right? cheers.gif
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i believe they sacked a few of them because real didn't play with style.

under pellegrini, real have played some sensational football and gave us good entertainment. sure they've been eliminated from two major tournaments. but they're still alive in the league.

he should stay.
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QUOTE(gto87 @ Mar 14 2010, 01:21 AM)
Yes we are the Richest club because we have our own TV rights, Yes we are not a building team, and yes most of our purchase are not youngsters who needs proper training and guidance before they can perform for a club such as madrid.

So you asked us to face the facts right. So, let's face the fact. Madrid are the richest club in the world, so what's wrong with buying the best players in the world when we have less to think about financially.

RM bought players that have the class and ability to play for them. Aren't Granero, Arbeloa, Lassana, Higuain, Marcelo, Gago, Garay and Benzema youngsters? Didn't they grew up to play better than before? (except for the newcomers which we have to wait to see them shine).

Do you understand the word rebuild? Just because we use that word doesn't mean we have to target youngsters only. It's the similar attempt but the difference is Madrid targeted players with quality rather than young players in the last summer.

Know one thing dude, old players that can inspire a team SOMETIMES are more important than buying bunch of youngsters. Wenger altered his policy by choosing to add Campbell and Arshavin to his current squad. That has to say something, right? cheers.gif
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The problem is... some of you people think RM is building a team while it's obviously you guys are just buying a team, get it?
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Ah the trolls are back. or maybe they're the same person who knows

And such genius remarks I might add. I didn't know buying players was exclusive to us only. We are the only club that "buys a team".
MU didn't buy Rooney. They literally built him. They also didn't buy the likes of Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, Van der Saar, Carrick, Berbatov, Nani, Anderson, Valencia.
Oh and Arsenal didn't buy Arshavin, Nasri, Rosicky, Fabregas, Gallas, Vermaelen.
Chelsea didn't buy Drogba, Anelka, Ballack, Essien, Obi Mikel, Malouda, Cole, Carvalho.

Need I go on? Seriously the rubbish that comes out from you morons I actually wonder where you bother to engage your brains before typing whatever brilliant idea that pops into your head. It can't be that hard can it?
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Attack! then we counter attack. Same goes in futeball. Ha ha ha ha!!! biggrin.gif
Focus on tonite match against Valladolid. Hope we can collect 3 points.
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QUOTE(verx @ Mar 14 2010, 04:50 PM)
Ah the trolls are back. or maybe they're the same person who knows

And such genius remarks I might add. I didn't know buying players was exclusive to us only. We are the only club that "buys a team".
MU didn't buy Rooney. They literally built him. They also didn't buy the likes of Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, Van der Saar, Carrick, Berbatov, Nani, Anderson, Valencia.
Oh and Arsenal didn't buy Arshavin, Nasri, Rosicky, Fabregas, Gallas, Vermaelen.
Chelsea didn't buy Drogba, Anelka, Ballack, Essien, Obi Mikel, Malouda, Cole, Carvalho.

Need I go on? Seriously the rubbish that comes out from you morons I actually wonder where you bother to engage your brains before typing whatever brilliant idea that pops into your head. It can't be that hard can it?
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MU built Rooney into where he is now after 6 years..
Arsenal built Fabregas which takes around 4-5 years...
Chelsea?They are money FC..no need to consider them..

Your team?buying complete product..Ronaldo(built by Man Utd), Kaka? bla bla bla...
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QUOTE(hazremi @ Mar 15 2010, 12:58 AM)
MU built Rooney into where he is now after 6 years..
Arsenal built Fabregas which takes around 4-5 years...
Chelsea?They are money FC..no need to consider them..

Your team?buying complete product..Ronaldo(built by Man Utd), Kaka? bla bla bla...
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another moron just look for superstar only.. u don know RM for past 15 years.. u just knew RM for 1 or 2 years..

roberto carlos, casillas was our complete product for me.. same goes to manuel sanchis..fernando redondo, hierro, salgado, guti and raul.. they just got their aging time..
not all people knew the past of their succes with RM..

need to say more?
can i say figo, ronaldo luis nazario de Lima and even zizou is incomplete product, but when came to rm.. they all got to outshine their talent even better.. ?

we buying them as a team.. not such a foolish minded as haters thinking.. and sort of frustration of fanatic losing their star...

we are not here to support our team cuz we have superstar, we supporting this team cuz we are fan since the past... not till the 'galactic thing' era people (jelousy) talkin' about..

we are madridista's ..

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QUOTE(hazremi @ Mar 15 2010, 12:58 AM)
MU built Rooney into where he is now after 6 years..
Arsenal built Fabregas which takes around 4-5 years...
Chelsea?They are money FC..no need to consider them..

Your team?buying complete product..Ronaldo(built by Man Utd), Kaka? bla bla bla...
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Then how about Van der Saar? Berbatov? Vidic? Weren't they complete products when MU bought them?
Arshavin was sure as hell complete when Arsenal bought him as well.

If you go by your definition we have Casillas, Raul, Guti, Ramos, Marcelo, Higuain, Granero, Gago who would qualify as built by us. And in a few years time the likes of Garay and Benzema will qualify as well since they are young enough. rolleyes.gif

See how pointless it is to view squads that way? You build your team whichever way you can as long as you make a competitive team.

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