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cherroy
post Aug 28 2009, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Aug 28 2009, 10:42 PM)
I read from the Genting thread that the Directors fee is excessive. Usually how much Directors fee is reasonable (individually, and collectively) as a percentage of sales or net profit? What's the general rule of thumb?
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No there is no such thing standard ratio or rule of thumb, it all depend on willingness of the company as well as shareholders approval on it.

If the directors are doing good job to make the company profitable, then they deserved it, but still there are company still paying huge directors fee despite company financially is weak.

The most importantly issue is that the directors are doing a good job to provide return to the shareholders wealth.

Standard ratio or rule of thumb would like

Good return - high directors fee
Low return - low directors fee


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QUOTE(瘟神 @ Aug 28 2009, 11:37 PM)
Thanks. I'm short~mid-term trader, and currently trying to apply FA with TA.  biggrin.gif
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Actually FA is not quite suitable for short term play or trade. As FA factors sometimes need take considerable long term to yield its benefit.

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post Aug 29 2009, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 29 2009, 12:39 AM)
You still dunno what type of player you are. And you need to set your risk tolerance, else when market crashes, you will sell the wrong things, while continue to average junks. Stocks are not easy money, and not all people earn from stocks, while we see larger percentage losing money in stocks, knowingly or unknowingly.
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yeah, I agree with you. Some more traders need well-disciplined. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 29 2009, 12:41 AM)
Actually FA is not quite suitable for short term play or trade. As FA factors sometimes need take considerable long term to yield its benefit.
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means FA only applicable for those who hold stocks, maybe more than 1 year?
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QUOTE(瘟神 @ Aug 29 2009, 12:03 AM)
yeah, I agree with you. Some more traders need well-disciplined.  biggrin.gif
means FA only applicable for those who hold stocks, maybe more than 1 year?
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If good fundamentals, holding a stock forever should be no problem, but Cherroy taikor is right, FA not suitable for trader.

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 28 2009, 09:40 PM)
Everyday AIG up $5-10 bux, then by end of September will climb back to $100.

Suddenly, all US shares goes up, as if the ECONOMY has recovered..
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Sure..Just in time for a bigger crash next month. brows.gif


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post Aug 29 2009, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 29 2009, 12:06 AM)
Sure..Just in time for a bigger crash next month.  brows.gif
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dun greed brows.gif, will be dam happy if Citi goto USD50 drool.gif drool.gif
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post Aug 29 2009, 12:27 AM

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A Day in the Life of the Stock Market
(If there are aliens watching us humans invest in the stock market, chances are they are disappointed.)


http://www.elliottwave.com/freeupdates/arc...ock-Market.aspx
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post Aug 29 2009, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(tessei @ Aug 29 2009, 12:27 AM)
A Day in the Life of the Stock Market
(If there are aliens watching us humans invest in the stock market, chances are they are disappointed.)
http://www.elliottwave.com/freeupdates/arc...ock-Market.aspx
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I smile when I read this. The alien didn't see our CI yet. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

He'll be crazy if they analyse us with all the unpredictable moves and expectacular show of market manipulation along with some unseen phenomena like 1 batang showcase, pirate ship, counter sink when made profit but move up when make loss etc etc etc rclxub.gif rclxub.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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Doesn't mean to spoilt your bull mode.
But beware on month of September. It's bear month ... brows.gif

After putting yesterday’s The Best and Worst Months for the S&P 500 Index (1926 – 2007) post together, I decided to take a closer look at the month of September. Here’s what I found out.
It’s typically a bad month for stocks – or at least the S&P 500 Index. Take a look at the following graphic which looks at September’s return from 1926 – 2006:
http://allfinancialmatters.com/2007/09/06/...nth-for-stocks/

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QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Aug 29 2009, 08:09 AM)
Doesn't mean to spoilt your bull mode.
But beware on month of September. It's bear month ...  brows.gif 

After putting yesterday’s The Best and Worst Months for the S&P 500 Index (1926 – 2007) post together, I decided to take a closer look at the month of September. Here’s what I found out.
It’s typically a bad month for stocks – or at least the S&P 500 Index. Take a look at the following graphic which looks at September’s return from 1926 – 2006:
http://allfinancialmatters.com/2007/09/06/...nth-for-stocks/
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how about the jinx October? brows.gif
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post Aug 29 2009, 08:49 AM

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Let's roll Sept + Oct together and we got 8 weeks of downward slope... how about that?

Look at China... projecting to fall to 2000, all Asia fall next, then NYSE... here we come. brows.gif

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 29 2009, 08:49 AM)
Let's roll Sept + Oct together and we got 8 weeks of downward slope... how about that?

Look at China... projecting to fall to 2000, all Asia fall next, then NYSE... here we come.  brows.gif
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Good, many people will start buying into the market this coming month. rclxms.gif
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post Aug 29 2009, 03:09 PM

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Have a look at this book...Detail explanation & studies has been made...


Seasonal Stock Market Trends: The Definitive Guide to Calendar-Based Stock Market Trading (Wiley Trading)

http://www.amazon.com/Seasonal-Stock-Marke...d/dp/0470270438

:- either browse at your favourite bookstore or google & download ebook version (of course illegal... smile.gif
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 29 2009, 09:49 AM)
Let's roll Sept + Oct together and we got 8 weeks of downward slope... how about that?

Look at China... projecting to fall to 2000, all Asia fall next, then NYSE... here we come.  brows.gif
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remember, when everyone is prepared for the crash, it will not becoming. tis is like wat happen during april-may when many expect market crash base on years of historical charts. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 29 2009, 12:06 AM)
Sure..Just in time for a bigger crash next month.  brows.gif
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since we're having double top recession, i hope CI will drop till 1100 pt at least...
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QUOTE(tessei @ Aug 29 2009, 12:27 AM)
A Day in the Life of the Stock Market
(If there are aliens watching us humans invest in the stock market, chances are they are disappointed.)
http://www.elliottwave.com/freeupdates/arc...ock-Market.aspx
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LOL interesting read smile.gif
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so expect a W shape recovery instead of V shape...

but most of my money still stuck in there cry.gif
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The market is top heavy already.. it is not good enough to satisfy the market with "less bad"
news anymore at this level. biggrin.gif

IMO, without more stellar data, this market is going to topple. Let see if the bulls have any more juice next month. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(! Love Money @ Aug 29 2009, 08:04 PM)
so expect a W shape recovery instead of V shape...

but most of my money still stuck in there cry.gif
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To form W, you must form V first mah. icon_idea.gif
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post Aug 30 2009, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 30 2009, 12:12 AM)
To form W, you must form V first mah.  icon_idea.gif
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W = double U
So must for a U first tongue.gif
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 29 2009, 11:48 PM)
The market is top heavy already.. it is not good enough to satisfy the market with "less bad"
news anymore at this level.  biggrin.gif

IMO, without more stellar data, this market is going to topple.  Let see if the bulls have any more juice next month.  tongue.gif
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Been saying that for months...change the record someone........ yawn.gif

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