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Is this your title: Return of the BEAR.
Stock Market V38, Return of the B...
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Aug 19 2009, 10:59 AM
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Wow! So soon.. new thread?
TS: Is this your title: Return of the BEAR. |
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Aug 19 2009, 08:53 PM
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Good evening folks!
Took a great nap.. now ready for some action tonight.. Wow! Nicely set.. ready for another bear raid! Well well well.. just as expected.. All eyes on RED CHINA! They just love RED don't they? From Asia to Euro to NorthAmerica. How about that? -20% drop for China so far, no doubt now they're in BEAR market. If you all have been looking at the SSE, there are more drops to come.. probably will like to go back to 200MA line at 2400. @ NYSE, the gains that the bulls took back yesterday will be wiped out today. Gen Bear and this army will continue this carnage. Furthermore, dark clouds and hurricanes are brewing at the same time at the Atlantic ocean and heading to the Gulf. What a great time! This post has been edited by danmooncake: Aug 19 2009, 08:53 PM |
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Aug 19 2009, 09:16 PM
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Finally, A Bearish View from Warren Buffett Himself:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/32473352 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Added on August 19, 2009, 9:22 pm QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 19 2009, 09:07 PM) Realistically speaking, no one would like BEAR season, not just stocks players like us. Imagine, the world is in deep recession, eventually you might be out of job as well. But then again, BEAR season is near as expected by many of the people, so it is time for us to accumulate more stocks. It is funny you said that. If this is "expected by many", yet some already ask "Err.. how long will this correction last?" Look folks, IMO, we haven't even started yet (except for China). Don't ask for when it will end yet. If you're long, just look for those opportunities to buy the dips! If you're short (like me), let it ride down.. and reap the profits! Yes, China now is the leading indicator. This post has been edited by danmooncake: Aug 19 2009, 09:22 PM |
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Aug 19 2009, 09:43 PM
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Aug 19 2009, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(! Love Money @ Aug 19 2009, 09:45 PM) well, as DMC said, china is leading the situation now... Yes.. at least you got that as the leading indicator and since China opens early. You got some edge there.so this is good indication for us that the correction is coming rather than worrying when it will come... at least this will keep us prepared during the next few weeks... Since most of you can't short. Go long with the stocks that are badly beaten but watch for those tops. Stagger your Buy, Don't jump all in. This is big mistake for those people catching falling knives. Good luck! Let's all make some |
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Aug 19 2009, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 10:07 PM) DMC, you scare the bear away huh. This is call head fake..MM do this all the time lah.dow is crawling back to green soon... apa ini i tot i would expect a 3-digit loss neh. First pull back.. get people to BUY..then release bad news.. SELL.. pocket difference. Great for short and long term traders here. Long: buy the dips Short: sell the long Sideliners: Can sit on their stagnant cash and cry. |
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Aug 19 2009, 10:15 PM
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Aug 19 2009, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(tessei @ Aug 19 2009, 10:17 PM) If you’ve not yet gone short, don’t worry. Tomorrow’s (Thursday) performance gaming due to options expiration could very well offer you a good entry point. Right now! OpEx is witching day. Good volatility Good time to make Day Trade!You see, August’s options expire on Friday. Because of this, traders who are underwater on their positions will try to push the market higher in order to close out their positions for a gain. Historically the day before expiration (Thursday) sees the largest market jumps as traders pile in pushing the market higher. In light of this, It would not at all be surprised if the S&P 500 rallies hard tomorrow. When and if it does, you should get a good entry point to establish some shorts. Once options expiration is over after Friday’s close, the fundamentals should take hold of the market again, pushing stocks lower. VIX pumping high on this day! |
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Aug 19 2009, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 10:22 PM) The falls in the Shanghai market do not reflect the health of the broader Chinese economy. True. The Sharks (the govt run companies) are more deadly in China than in Malaysia.Rocketing and slumping has always been a characteristic of the Shanghai market. It took only one year for the index to rise from 1,664 to 6,124 points and vice versa. The Shanghai exchange is all but closed to foreign investors, while Chinese investors have few other options to place their money, since they cannot buy overseas shares. Consequently, this exchange is extremely volatile, They can manufacture news and financial statements as easily as they make toys in their factories. China can legislate any company into non-existence even foreign MNC company. Everyone watching RioTinto and see how they're going to play with the giant Panda on the recent issue. Therefore, most of us we don't trade China directly..but just use other tools that have China play indirectly. Disclosure: Your truly current play: FXI, TCK, HAO, CDII |
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Aug 19 2009, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 10:35 PM) Interesting article you quoted. Funny that you said that. Most Americans feel that since they're already in DEBT,One difference that springs to mind is that China has CASH and the US has DEBT. they have nothing else to lose but the DEBT itself. They just walk away. Chinese is losing sleep over their invested and hard earned cash because it is decreasing in value. This post has been edited by danmooncake: Aug 19 2009, 10:41 PM |
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Aug 19 2009, 11:47 PM
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Aug 19 2009, 11:54 PM
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Anyway, looks like we got a nice edge up from this morning carnage,
time for another dive for channel play. This post has been edited by danmooncake: Aug 19 2009, 11:54 PM |
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Aug 20 2009, 12:01 AM
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Aug 20 2009, 12:40 AM
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QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 20 2009, 12:25 AM) I wonder if local ONG will rally tomorrow.. Not sure about local market but Crude Oil got a short term boost today so many reports today: Kencana - New contract awarded Alam Maritim - profit up & 0.5cents div Dialog - profit up & 2.4c div Pelikan's report also out. EPS 7.9cents Panasonic maintained 20c EPS QoQ others are Fareast, Mahsing, etc.. with the larger draw of inventory number in US. This is only valid for this week. Therefore good for re-position if you think they will trace world crude price. It has been really interesting these past 2 weeks looking at Oil Price (Nymex). Oil tops at 70-72.. then back to 64-65 and back again to 70-72. They volley back and forth. This price channel allows traders (like yours truly) to trade oil in almost predictable manner. This post has been edited by danmooncake: Aug 20 2009, 02:19 AM |
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Aug 20 2009, 01:16 AM
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Sometimes when people over short.. they've to cover big time.
Yours truly have done this. It is part of the game. But, by hedging a bit on the bull side for long. This helps to stop the bleeding. Now the market is going up. I'm letting my long side to ride up, and waiting for it to top, release some of my long position and I'll short again to ride on the pullback. No matter, I am still bearish because of the nature of the over-extended run. Good luck! |
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Aug 20 2009, 01:40 AM
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Mid day update:
DJ +77 @ 9295 (want to retest 9300) S&P500 +8.14 @ 997 (want to retest 1000) Feeling toppy...now. Interesting enough, the bear MM released this piece (which I'm sure many people already aware): http://www.cnbc.com/id/32474763 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Closing Bell: 9279.69 +61.75 +0.67% 1969.24 +13.32 +0.68% 996.58 +6.91 +0.70% Yesterday, we have sell off in CHINA! We better watch China! Oh well..So much for watching China! Instead, USA watched their Oil Inventory went down 8.4 million barrels. Oil is more important than anything else here. Oil bulls jumped and fired off the BUY button resulting Oil spiked up 4.5%.. now up to $72 (2 months high). The entire market jumped on Energy sector today. Who cares about housing and jobs, huh? Not all is bad.. at this price level, time to re-position my short for another entry. This post has been edited by danmooncake: Aug 20 2009, 04:33 AM |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:17 AM
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Ok guys.. it is safe to buy stocks.
The govt won't let the market down anymore. Recession is over, no more fear, no more depression. Even Warren Buffett says so.. money is too cheap again, no good to hold cash. http://www.cnbc.com/id/32476270 |
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Aug 20 2009, 08:56 PM
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How come everything so green today?
I think it is time to take down this market again.. |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:04 PM
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Aug 20 2009, 09:16 PM
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Merdeka Day = Monday.
It is going to be a BLACK Monday. Love this pic posted by Mika: ![]() This post has been edited by danmooncake: Aug 20 2009, 09:22 PM |
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