Each TV has it's own set of adjustments. The BD60 player also got it's own set of adjustments. But it doesn't mean if I up 1 level of sharpness on the BD player it will be the same as if I up 1 level of sharpness in the TV. They both have different ranges for each level. Same applies for contrast , color etc.

That's why for people like me, if I can't get it right at the TV level , I will play around with the BD player settings as well in combination with the TV and and see how the combination goes until I get what I think is the best for me.

As for reviews which says the BD60 has better quality, it shouldn't be night and day. Most Blu-ray players nowadays and also the PS3 will have more or less the same picture quality, give or take very slight differences.

The small differences might be due to some players (the BD60 perhaps) enhancing the sharpness a little at default settings making it seem a little better at a certain viewing distance (Just a guess, if what you heard is true).

The purists of course recommend leaving the player's settings alone, so it's really up to your tastes

so you are saying philips bdp 3000 also pretty much no difference compared to bd 60? its rm 580 it has profile 2.0 bd live bonus view it also upscales dvds and decodes hd audio i dunno whether it bitstreams or not
it has usb to upgrade firmware i think no wifi or 7.1 that doesnot matter to me also i think it doesnt play mkvs does bd 60 play mkvs? if it doesnt then pretty much no difference right?

I can't say for sure because i haven't seen it, but there shouldn't be any major differences in picture quality. The picture quality itself on Blu-ray disc is already hi-def made for viewing on Hi def TV so it's pretty much the same pixel for pixel mapping on the TV screen.

Any differencees will probably be any sort of adjustments or enhancements (if any) made by the player.

To ease your mind go to one of the major Elect stores where they have both the sets on demo and ask them to test them out on the same TV and see for yourself.

Don't forget to come back and post here for feedback

Btw, I am speaking strictly on picture wise, and not on any other aspects like upscaling DVDs or other features. As for mkvs playback I am not too familiar with it, but I don't think any of the players have the feature yet. I have heard of Samsung TVs having it on some higher end models though.

This post has been edited by Ngto: Oct 21 2009, 02:19 PM

Same here, I have not seen the Phillips BDP in action to comment. I would like to add to Ngto statement. 99% of the newer BDPs seem to get their act correct when it comes to outputing 1080p/24fps, so far the older Sharp BD Player was the only one I have seen where there were dropped frames when forcing a 24p signal. The way it handled the 24p was conversion to 60p and reconvert to 24p, some frames were dropped. I believe they fixed it with later players but I have not verified.

My suggestion, as them to output from the BDP a 24p signal to a display that u can confirm is receiving 24p signal and see if the motion is smooth. If its good, then no issues.

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Added on October 21, 2009, 2:59 pmTrusted Reviews Philips BDP3000 reviewRiddhy,

Checkout the review from Trusted Reviews, looks pretty decent. They would have caught any problems with playback if any.
Trusted Reviews Philips BDP-3000 review

If u do not need the extras, looks good enuf.

This post has been edited by anfieldude: Oct 21 2009, 02:59 PM

From the little I read from google, it does have some juddering issues at 24P output. It doesn't have optical but does have Coaxial output (if using non-HDMI AVR) . No DTS-MA decoding as well.

And also the USB is solely for BDLive! use and not for playing media files like MP3s etc.

But for Riddhy, I don't think the absense of the above features will matter to him.

This post has been edited by Ngto: Oct 21 2009, 03:07 PM

Good catch, I read thru the review in detail and it does state that there is some 24p judder. So for Riddhy, go see if u can catch it, most people are not sensitive to judder unless its massive.

i also read the review my questions are

what is bd-live?? and what advantages do i get??

about dtd-hdma decoding suppose a blu ray movie has is so how will it play it? I dont have and dont want to use any av receiver to bitstream
so will i get no audio if i the movie has dts-hd ma or does blu ray movie come with dolby and dts both??

lg and samsung blu ray players play mkv do you guys have review of bd60 and lg bd 270?

If you don't know what BD-Live is chances are you won't want to bother with it. If your main interest is just watch the movie and don't bother with extra contents related to the movie available online it's a waste of time.

If you don't have HDMI receiver with HD decoders, then you must bitstream your HD audio to the Coaxial input of your AVR. But by doing so your receiver (being backwards compatible) can only decode the standard DTS and DD 5.1 sound contained in/attached to the HD audio tracks. You won't get Lossless HD audio.

I don't have any knwledge of players with MKVs function so I won't comment on their compatibility or playback issues.

i dont have any avrs i also dont want to buy any

phillips already decodes dolby true hd to lcpm right so i can connect even any ayam speakers to it to get the audio but for dts hd ma what will i do? i dont want to buy any avr so will i get no audio at all?
does blu ray movies with dts hd ma contains other audio sterams as well?

will get dts instead of dts hd ma....

cool so i dont need dts hd ma dts hr will do because i dont want to use or buy any avrs

bro Riddhy, since you mention you into a little gaming,
your 1st choice will be the PS3/slim ( really noway out for you)
after using for few weeks and if you think the PQ is not good enuf( up to your expectation), then options is you buy a dedicated BD-player ( of course $$$ counts la) hehe

bro Anfield, sori for snoob question..... wats AWG

thkq

This post has been edited by moomoos: Oct 21 2009, 06:06 PM

AWG - American Wire Gauge

thank you

so i guessing currently all of you guys using a bdp that either decodes dts hdma or dolbythd or you are using a receiver to bitstream.

for philips i checked their site found nothin so did you guys come across this problem too say you dont have a receiver and your bdp not decode either dolbythd or dtshdma so what happens? do you get audio or not?

also currently in MSIA what latest gen players are available? i heard

philips bdp 3000 - rm 580
sony s360 - rm 999
pana bd60 - 850

anyother players in the local market? can you guys plz tell me the model no. and prices? thanks.

WTA - I have a habit of always checking the audio source of a video I am playing and cycle through all the audio options. How accurate are the readings from the player? If it says 2.1, is it 100% accurate? (reference here more to DVDs).

no gracias ?

thats B4 the gracious/gracias came about

someone got "trend"wan..