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Samsung Plasma Series 6 650 50inch (PS50B650S1R), Discuss this new plasma tv here.
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sam240
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Sep 25 2009, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(michaelzolt @ Sep 24 2009, 08:53 AM) RM5550 for B650 is a good price... anyway i just check that even the shop next to citibank puchong can give the same price which is b550 =rm4500 , b650 rm5500. for me in still considering , took my wife to Harvey norman and my wife say 50" might be a bit small after she saw the 55" LCD 200 hz. reason is are house is 22 x 75 , distance between tv n sofa is 22. wat do you guys think? any opinion? Wah, 22 x 75 feet is your house size or living room size or music room size? If 22 x 75 wall-to-wall, then minus kushion + wall bracket  Anyway, if 22 feet eyes to tv, I guess I need more than 65"...haha...so better go for projector
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chewkl
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Sep 25 2009, 11:29 PM
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Peasant
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Just managed to get a look at LCD B650 vs Plasma B650 side by side in Ikano just now. In terms of PQ, the plasma is much better than the LCD, especially the black levels.
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sam240
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Sep 26 2009, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Sep 25 2009, 11:29 PM) Just managed to get a look at LCD B650 vs Plasma B650 side by side in Ikano just now. In terms of PQ, the plasma is much better than the LCD, especially the black levels.  Plasma's black/dark level always better than LCD...hehe....but can almost same level with LED TV  Correct me if I were wrong.....
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de_lasoul
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Sep 27 2009, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Sep 25 2009, 11:29 PM) Just managed to get a look at LCD B650 vs Plasma B650 side by side in Ikano just now. In terms of PQ, the plasma is much better than the LCD, especially the black levels.  I think LCD B650 100Hz are entry levels... if really wanna get good PQ from Sammy LCD, must get higher series.. eg LED series or 9 series.. just my opinion.
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ronn77
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Sep 27 2009, 08:24 PM
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Is there any sifus here would like to advice on the best setting for this set? Or should I remain everything as default?
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apexg2
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Sep 29 2009, 08:15 AM
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ya la..best setting....is it sasme with the ps50B450...?
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aneip
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Sep 29 2009, 08:44 AM
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Anymore advice on whether B550 or B650 or even B450.. I just care about PQ. Does RM 1k justify on enhance feature of B650 than B550. I mean feature like 100Hz Motion Plus rather than 100Hz Motion or Wide Colour Enhancer 3 than Wide Colour Enhancer 2.
I just really need media playback on B650. It's nice to have feature for me..
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sam240
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Sep 30 2009, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(aneip @ Sep 29 2009, 08:44 AM) Anymore advice on whether B550 or B650 or even B450.. I just care about PQ. Does RM 1k justify on enhance feature of B650 than B550. I mean feature like 100Hz Motion Plus rather than 100Hz Motion or Wide Colour Enhancer 3 than Wide Colour Enhancer 2. I just really need media playback on B650. It's nice to have feature for me.. for this 100Hz, when connect HDMI to laptop, only can see 60Hz.....any idea why?.... is my graphic card limitation at 60HZ? then no meaning if I get this 100Hz  sad
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aneip
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Sep 30 2009, 08:10 PM
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I think 60Hz is correct input signal. 100Hz is not an input signal.. it a feature which convert 50hz signal to 100hz so the framerate will be double to avoid blurry in fast move image.
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ar188
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Sep 30 2009, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE(sam240 @ Sep 30 2009, 07:06 PM) for this 100Hz, when connect HDMI to laptop, only can see 60Hz.....any idea why?.... is my graphic card limitation at 60HZ? then no meaning if I get this 100Hz  sad bro, this era not CRT monitor anymore no need to pump VGA signal at 80-100Hz.. we just fix the Hz as the standard HDTV frequency.. like 50hz or 60hz.. those 100hz or 240hz is generated by the LCD internal circuitry to the LCD panel..
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sam240
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Sep 30 2009, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(aneip @ Sep 30 2009, 08:10 PM) I think 60Hz is correct input signal. 100Hz is not an input signal.. it a feature which convert 50hz signal to 100hz so the framerate will be double to avoid blurry in fast move image. QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 30 2009, 08:28 PM) bro, this era not CRT monitor anymore no need to pump VGA signal at 80-100Hz.. we just fix the Hz as the standard HDTV frequency.. like 50hz or 60hz.. those 100hz or 240hz is generated by the LCD internal circuitry to the LCD panel..  oh, really? Thx for your info sharing. I tot can get 100Hz when connect HDMI to bluray or PC, while the TV channel still at 50/60Hz  Anyway, then Samsung Plasma is 100Hz while Pana PlasmA is just 60Hz? (Not talking about the sub-field)
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aneip
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Oct 1 2009, 12:16 PM
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some model 100hz, some only 50hz.. for all brand la.. higher price, more feature.. now got 200/240hz in some model..
This post has been edited by aneip: Oct 1 2009, 12:17 PM
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anfieldude
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Oct 1 2009, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(sam240 @ Sep 30 2009, 10:22 PM) oh, really? Thx for your info sharing. I tot can get 100Hz when connect HDMI to bluray or PC, while the TV channel still at 50/60Hz  Anyway, then Samsung Plasma is 100Hz while Pana PlasmA is just 60Hz? (Not talking about the sub-field) Refresh rates are really not important for plasma due the nature of the refresh. For plasma the display just need to support 24Hz, 50Hz and 60Hz. For low quality SD feed (Astro) it is better to have 100Hz enabled for fast moving sports (50Hz). But really not necessary For LCD it is important. They nature of the refresh requires some sort of image processing to enable a smooth picture when the feed is 50 or 60Hz.
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ar188
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Oct 1 2009, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Oct 1 2009, 12:57 PM) Refresh rates are really not important for plasma due the nature of the refresh. For plasma the display just need to support 24Hz, 50Hz and 60Hz. For low quality SD feed (Astro) it is better to have 100Hz enabled for fast moving sports (50Hz). But really not necessary For LCD it is important. They nature of the refresh requires some sort of image processing to enable a smooth picture when the feed is 50 or 60Hz. just to add, panel refresh (like 100hz) is only part of the story, then you have intra frame motion processing, black frame insert, and also LCD panel response time.. so LCD have to work much harder to achieve what plasma's panel can do easily with 50Hz signal..
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sam240
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Oct 1 2009, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Oct 1 2009, 12:57 PM) Refresh rates are really not important for plasma due the nature of the refresh. For plasma the display just need to support 24Hz, 50Hz and 60Hz. For low quality SD feed (Astro) it is better to have 100Hz enabled for fast moving sports (50Hz). But really not necessary For LCD it is important. They nature of the refresh requires some sort of image processing to enable a smooth picture when the feed is 50 or 60Hz. QUOTE(ar188 @ Oct 1 2009, 01:19 PM) just to add, panel refresh (like 100hz) is only part of the story, then you have intra frame motion processing, black frame insert, and also LCD panel response time.. so LCD have to work much harder to achieve what plasma's panel can do easily with 50Hz signal.. So the 100Hz is needed for LCD, but why Samsung Plasma mention about the 100Hz on their Plasma specification? But Pana Plasma dont mention about this one, just mention the sub-field up to 480Hz...haha....
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anfieldude
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Oct 1 2009, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(sam240 @ Oct 1 2009, 01:41 PM) So the 100Hz is needed for LCD, but why Samsung Plasma mention about the 100Hz on their Plasma specification? But Pana Plasma dont mention about this one, just mention the sub-field up to 480Hz...haha.... 100Hz for plasma is mentioned to the regions that have 50Hz (PAL) regions. Pana plasma has the option as well. Sub field is a gimmick to counter LCDs giving 240Hz and all. The layman is not so well versed, bigger is always better.
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ronn77
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Oct 3 2009, 12:42 PM
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does anyone know how to load subtitle when playing movie files using B650?
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de_lasoul
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Oct 4 2009, 01:03 AM
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another question. Can the build in media player recognise the files automatically from the HDD with folders?
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ronn77
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Oct 4 2009, 01:36 AM
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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Oct 4 2009, 01:03 AM) another question. Can the build in media player recognise the files automatically from the HDD with folders? yes, it can. so far it can recognise all types of files except rmvb. if anyone know how to load subtitles when playing movie file then feel free to teach
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aneip
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Oct 4 2009, 01:42 AM
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See the TV in pavillion today.. Very tired with salesman which keep pushing for a sales.. Asking what best price I get elsewhere.. I just mention about people getting offered 5500 here.. Than he keep saying the price must be display set. Also mention is really can get 5500 he Boss sure will borong all the stock..
Really headache will salesman.. Going there hoping to compare and asking for advice where PQ is really different between 550 and 650..
I must said my experience in harvey norman midvalley and ikano much2 better. The salesman just answering ur question without trying to really push for a sales..
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