Commontan price is the best at this moment. Definitely will buy from her.

Ronald, yrs is 5 yrs warranty?

I need 5 yrs warranty so I got from Best.

Hi all,

I received my Samsung Plasma B850 (similar spec to B650 except slim factor) on Saturday.

Been playing around and have 25 hours usage in the weekend.....happy with it overall....colors are nice and bright, picture is sharp, motion is good, no picture noise....black is pretty black in bright lighting (though not as black as the Sammy LED screens) but better than the Panny S10.

IR is there, but goes away after changing source. buzz is there but I dont hear it that much so it does not bother me. So no issues of this sort.

But my main concern is black level....I have a Sony LCD V400 for upstairs room for comparison. And when comparing the black levels on this plasma and the Sony LCD...they are about equal??

What gives, thought that the Plasma would have deeper black levels?
I have not calibrate it of course, and contrast is set low at 50 to avoid excessive IR....but during night sequences in dim lighting, black level is lacking.

I dont think I have a defective panel since all other things are fine. I dont think contrast/brightness is the factor since I played around for it for a couple of minutes to see whether I can improve the black but nothing changed....so what am I doing wrong?

Is it because the plasma cells have not aged yet? will the blacks be better when I get to 100-200hours usage?

Anyway, happy with it, but the blacks are below my expectations for a plasma....perhaps with more hours with it....

Any other samsung plasma owners can share answers? thanks.

Seems we have no chance to see it in action.

How to buy ah like that....???

I would not buy if I do not get to see it in action...

Come to Harvey Norman Pavilion KL to see

B550 plasma come to Sarawak liao, i ask them to put together side by side compare with pana S10k, B550 already win S10k, but i still waiting to buy B650, they said will arrived next month. Is it a good deal at RM5700 for PN50B650 ( TV ) only?

PS50B650 tv is good @ RM5.7k
Here it's TV + 32" lcd @ RM6.5k

ronald, you says u're getting the 50B650 + 32"lcd + 5 years warranty at $6999 right?
also where you recommend to get this sets at offer price?
I checked at one of the shop and they quote me $5900 for sets alone which is more expensive than what you quoted here.

Now don't see this offer...HN retracted the warranty from their standard pack.
I got mine from Best @ 7.2k with 32" lcd + 5 yrs.

Just found out why blacks are washed out. Its the darn Cinema Smooth glitch, which also reported in US models.

When I changed back film mode to Off, blacks are good. Though of course not Kuro levels.

I am happy though.

This also happens for B650?

Yalor, I also wanted to view it before buying.

I believe I read somewhere that you can disable it in the Service menu. Same as the auto dimming feature on the LED backlit LCDs.

Mine is black. There is some where that the black level can be adjusted.
I turn off most of features. Pixel shifting is off by default.

Ronald,

You do not play games on the B650 right? Was just wondering the games HUD will cost permanent burn-in or not, normally we play games for 3 hours...

I only use HTPC for movies. IR protection is on. I see the whole screen is shifted by 3 pixels.
So far I don't have IR issue. I notice that it's less prone to IR now than what it was used to be.
Give me some time until the panel break in... then I ll update again.

hope we can wait for the panel break in..

my side suggestion.. leave it ON for 24 hours.. so you can update us earlier.. hehe, just kidding

Am sure many Penangites here is anxiously waiting for your feedback as there are a couple of potential consumers waiting to place order.

You all penang Elites are damn loaded. ronnt88 is coming to KL to see svs.

@ronaldjoe

Yours is black in dim lighting or bright lighting? In bright lighting yes black is black.

But I dont think that any plasma can be full black in dim lighting, even the Kuros cannot give perfect black.

My perception is that the B Plasmas have dark grey black in dim lighting. better than most conventional LCDs, but still far from perfect (with film mode at off, not cinema smooth :-)).

I also turned all advanced settings off.

Does the pixel shift affect black? And which settings do you mean we can adjust black level?

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Added on August 25, 2009, 11:55 am@anfieldude

To tell you the truth, I do not see any differences having the film mode at off or Cinema Smooth, so no big deal I will leave it off rather than going to service menu and mess something up.

Anyway you are right, colors are amazing in the Samsung B plasmas

This post has been edited by enrg: Aug 25 2009, 11:55 AM

Cant remember well. See picture advanced setting IIRC.