Is it hard to do this ?  How do I start ? I am singal  since young till now,  if can't have gf to a wife  at least best friend . Do you believe faith or do I need to work it out?

This guide for dummies even works on 2017.
I just managed to get a 2nd dates. Wish me luck guys.

Today is Feb 22, so how did it go then NightFelix?

back track it on vday, i send her flower into office, she said thanks and like it (the flower).

working smooth so far, been 3rd date last Sunday. we have lunch and few chat quite awhile, she offer me to try her drinks (taste weird so ask me test)
we did some shopping at managed to did some physical touch on her hand and play with her hair and she didn't mind.

i think the progress work pretty well based on the 1st post described. now working on 4th date (no decide when yet) see if I can seal the deal or not.

Hey you've worked hard, good work Felix.

Just ask her where she wld like to go quickly. Strike while the iron is hot!

K, waiting for yr update next Monday then.

NO need wait Monday. Lol

When I send her back home after today dinner. I hold her hand and tell her I'm a good full time boyfriend. And she just macam shock impression and tell me she not ready yet. And walk out from my car rush. I think maybe she just being too nice to me, so I get wrong signal. Alright life still carry on.

Whatsapp telling me that she don't want me like spare tyre because still can't get over her sad relationship past 2 years ago.

Awww. Well, at least she was honest n kind ... did not lead u on.

So what reply did u give?
As for "can't get over her sad relationship past 2 years ago" ... read between the lines ... two years n still yearning for what? She's just saying nicely (avoiding to hurt u with: mister bodyguard, u r not the one, not impressed, etc).

I think got mixed up the answer she gave me and then I add some of my conclusion. To real situation is like this.

When I reach my home, I drop a text to her, and she reply me this.

Then I tell her, that is alright because maybe I'm getting confused the signals from her. So she replying me this as well.

And, I remember she told me before her last relationship 2 years ago hurt her so much during our 2nd date iinm. And yesterday was our 4th date hangout. So I don't want to ask much her past relationship as she told me to skip the topic, also leave a reply before our conversation close.


So I just got myself in the friendzone. And I just text her this morning, and she still replying me as normal. So jadi no hard feeling between both of us. Well, I just handle it like a real man and carry on my next crush. Ops, no new crush at the moment. Jadi focus on working and life goes on.

What does it say when a girl seems to go out of her way to sit in front of you. Like she has the option to sit next to you, but she obviously takes the roundabout way to sit in front of you, like directly in front.

I catch her looking at me sometimes, and she looks away when I catch her doing it. Also she's a girl that turned down a date few years back.

"Confessing" is for losers. Seriously. It is the lamest way of letting a girl know you like her, and it is not very effective. Here's why:

- You're giving up all control over the outcome. All the power is now in her hands to either say yes or no. There's nothing you can do about it anymore.
- You're putting unnecessary pressure on her. Suddenly she has to decide then and there how she feels about you, when she may not even be sure herself yet. And she may be afraid of hurting you if she says no. It's not fair to put her in such a position.
- You're asking her to love you back. You don't ask for love. You offer it, and if she accepts, she will offer hers in return.
- You're setting up an unrealistic expectation. Since you asked for her love, she will tend to see you as someone who always has to earn it. She will see herself as a princess to you, because you played the role of a beggar to her.
- You're creating the impression that you're ashamed to have feelings for her. Because that's what a confession is - an admission of guilt or wrongdoing.
- You're making a huge dramatic moment out something very small. Liking a girl is ultimately a small thing.

Those last two points are perhaps the most important to understand. Just because you've met a girl whom you have the hots for, doesn't mean she's The One OMG!!!11 And wanting to date her doesn't mean you're asking her to promise to marry you ASAP. If you're thinking this way, then of course you're ashamed to admit you like her, because you're expecting far more than she can realistically give. You're probably doing all you can to keep your feelings secret from her and everyone else like a lovesick schoolboy.

Stop being a lovesick schoolboy. Mature adults are not ashamed of their feelings. Whether you've fallen head over heels for her, or you just think she's really really pretty, you should not be afraid to show it - to her. And you can show it in a way that flatters her, that makes her feel desired, and that does not make her uncomfortable.

1) Eye contact. You know how two people tend to not look each other in the eye for too long? That there's usually a time limit before both people look away? Well, if you like this girl, maintain eye contact just a little longer than the time limit. Look at her just a little longer than necessary. Then give her a little smile before looking away. Don't stare, don't glue your eyes to her all the time. Just don't be afraid to show that you like looking at her. 

2) Make her laugh. It's one thing to get her to talk comfortably with you. It's another thing for her to enjoy talking to you, so much so that she remembers how much she enjoys talking to you. Be at your wittiest and most charming, put some effort into making her laugh. Don't be too shy to say something like, "Hey, wanna hear a joke?" Then tell her a dozen jokes, one after another. Let her know that you're purposely trying to make her happy.

3) Remember the things she says. Listen to what she has to say, then show her that you listened. If she mentioned her dog Poochie, greet her with "Hi, how's Poochie?" the next time you see her. If she mentioned she has trouble sleeping, ask her if she slept well the next day. If she likes a certain TV show, find out when the show airs, then ask her how was last night's episode the next day. Better yet, watch the show, so that you can talk about it with her. You can even tell her you didn't like the show - the fact that you watched it just because of her is flattering enough.

4) Physical proximity/contact. This is a tricky one, so be very careful. Position yourself closer to her - not too close, but a little closer than normal. You know the distance between friends, and the distance between bf and gf? You want to be exactly halfway in-between. (And better make sure you're wearing deodorant!) Similarly, give her a little touch every now and then, but be careful. Touch her shoulder when you want to get her attention. When talking to her, pat her on her arm to emphasize a point; if you've gotten close enough to her, you can try her thigh. When walking together, put your hand on the small of her back to guide her in a different direction. Just don't let your hand linger there too long.

You know what's the best thing about all these? They are measurable. Meaning, you will know instantly whether or not they're working. If she likes you, she will return the eye contact with you; she will laugh at all your jokes; she will appreciate the fact that you remember things about her; she will stand close to you, and she will touch you. If she doesn't, then you'll know she's not interested. By doing these things, you're not only showing her you like her, you're also giving her the option of gently rejecting you - or subtly encouraging you.

And if you're getting all the right signals from her, it's time to move on to:

5) Ask her out. Just you and her. None of the rest of your gang. Nobody else. Yes, it's a date. It could be a movie, it could be a drink at a coffee place, or if you're really confident, it could be dinner at a nice restaurant. Don't treat it as if it's a big deal, as if by saying yes she'll be making a big commitment to you. Keep this in mind if she's reluctant - say, "Hey, it's just a movie/coffee/dinner, I'm not asking you to marry me laa."

And after you do all this, after you've got the date... then what?

Then you just let it happen naturally. And believe me, if you've gotten this far and the girl has been showing all the signs of liking you, it will happen naturally. Which may be a surprise if you've always thought that tackling a girl is a long, gruelling, agonizingly difficult task that involves a "confession". You may be surprised at how easy it was. Which is as it should be. (And don't give me that "if it's easy to get, you won't appreciate" nonsense.  ) If a guy and a girl like each other, they should fall into a relationship easily.

This is how mature adults do it. And even if you are a lovesick schoolboy, you should still do it this way. Because it's the right way to do it.

Note: these are not 5 steps. They're only arranged in that order from most to least daring, but you don't need to follow the order - except that if you want her to say yes to no. 5, you should've gotten good responses to nos. 1-4 first. No. 3 obviously only works from the second time you see her onwards, but if you're getting signals from her during your very first meeting, then by all means ask her out there and then. They're not 5 steps, they're 5 ways.

I think got mixed up the answer she gave me and then I add some of my conclusion. To real situation is like this.

When I reach my home, I drop a text to her, and she reply me this.

Then I tell her, that is alright because maybe I'm getting confused the signals from her. So she replying me this as well.

And, I remember she told me before her last relationship 2 years ago hurt her so much during our 2nd date iinm. And yesterday was our 4th date hangout. So I don't want to ask much her past relationship as she told me to skip the topic, also leave a reply before our conversation close.


So I just got myself in the friendzone. And I just text her this morning, and she still replying me as normal. So jadi no hard feeling between both of us. Well, I just handle it like a real man and carry on my next crush. Ops, no new crush at the moment. Jadi focus on working and life goes on.

Any luck now?  just curious. 

No progress for her. She moved to other city working like 50km away from we previously here. She did text me once why didnt text her lately. (2 weeks after I stopped texting her) and I was telling her that I'm busy and so on (well, in fact I was really busy on working and side-working stuff etc but just didnt put her on my priority anymore)

That was my Feb story (5 months ago story), and March I found another girl which we both like each other, and now this new girl are my gf right now. We been together for almost 2 months, started relationship end of April.

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I think should stick to the topic. 5 ways to let girl know that you interested in her, in fact, my girl hints me that she like me (female version)
- She hints everything I do or I wear or I talk
- She will be always initial to ask you something first
- She will tel you what time she available (because waiting you to date her out)
- She told me she ignore a guy keep text/call her or asking her out, but she only date with me (before we get into relationship)
or she will tell you about who is her friends/families