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post Dec 23 2010, 06:42 PM

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Sorry..edited due to personal reasons..thx.

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post Jan 5 2011, 08:32 PM

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edited.

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post Jan 24 2011, 09:26 PM

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so any latest News on Score A ???
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QUOTE(Coolman_wrx @ Dec 16 2010, 04:56 PM)
in other words can say "commission" ???  tongue.gif
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post Feb 3 2011, 08:06 PM

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just joined score a ! got back 13% of my capital within my first week . well there are plenty of ppl out there who dislikes this sort of business but oh well their loss , my GAIN . =)
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post Feb 4 2011, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(Maximillian88 @ Dec 14 2010, 12:06 PM)
No-ones denying this is MLM.. I personally believe in the Score-A programme and its ability to help kids to score As in exams.. And I'm willing to put my money into this MLM business instead of Amway Cosway Sungei Way or even Lambergggeer(who buys that crap anyway?) simply because there isn't any need to keep maintaining a certain sales amount every month... Well of course how impressive the score-A program is certainly helps!!
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score a system does have a minimum requirement which if you dont achieve makes your account dormant. then you need to pay an activation fees to reactivate it. if you leave it dormant to long it gets terminated and you have to start all over again. trust me. been there and done that.
but i will say here. like any business, if you can sell your self well you will make money regardless of whether it is MLM or conventional business. i have seen people make money from this system but not the normal way as promoted and even then the real ones are few and far apart.the main income is the recruitment of new downlines.
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post Feb 5 2011, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(dreggy @ Feb 4 2011, 11:42 AM)
score a system does have a minimum requirement which if you dont achieve makes your account dormant. then you need to pay an activation fees to reactivate it. if you leave it dormant to long it gets terminated and you have to start all over again. trust me. been there and done that.
but i will say here. like any business, if you can sell your self well you will make money regardless of whether it is MLM or conventional business. i have seen people make money from this system but not the normal way as promoted and even then the real ones are few and far apart.the main income is the recruitment of new downlines.
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in any kind of business need to do their maintenance. in Score A u only do Rm198 maintenance only & this amount maintenance u can sale it off thats mean indirectly maintenance free. it depend how u manage your business . biggrin.gif


Added on February 5, 2011, 10:48 pm
QUOTE(soundworks @ Feb 3 2011, 08:06 PM)
just joined score a ! got back 13% of my capital within my first week . well there are plenty of ppl out there who dislikes this sort of business but oh well their loss , my GAIN . =)
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yes u r right just regardless to those anti party. u keep moving on your own way. rclxms.gif

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post Feb 6 2011, 02:13 AM

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i also just got invited to this business. anyone mind to share whether this business going to succeed or kaboom? i haven't bought any portals yet, but considering. help needed
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post Feb 6 2011, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(TaeYeon9 @ Feb 6 2011, 02:13 AM)
i also just got invited to this business. anyone mind to share whether this business going to succeed or kaboom? i haven't bought any portals yet, but considering. help needed
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Come on.. If score A is really works, what for go for tuition? They will keep tel u how good how big income u will earn and tel u, u get how many member get how many pairs get how much. the product is useless.
U are selling the plan, not the product. All my fren intro score A to me. i shoot them 99 untill they notin to say.

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post Feb 6 2011, 02:46 AM

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QUOTE(-Davidoff- @ Feb 6 2011, 02:22 AM)
Come on.. If score A is really works, what for go for tuition? They will keep tel u how good how big income u will earn and tel u, u get how many member get how many pairs get how much. the product is useless.
U are selling the plan, not the product. All my fren intro score A to me. i shoot them 99 untill they notin to say.
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okay thanks for feedback.
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post Feb 8 2011, 08:19 PM

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score a works really simple actually . two ways of using it . one is to earn money . another is to revise and do extra exercise as homework . nuff said . everyone out there who's discriminating score A is just plain keras kepala .
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QUOTE(alexision @ Jul 26 2010, 02:32 AM)
I joined kenshido after countless calls from my cousin non stop urging me to join. I nicely rejected alot of times, til I really dont know what to say, i just discuss with my dad and he said ok since its our cousin n not some random outsider, then ok lor... After paying 1.8k for i think 5 set... I was told each set worth 600 each and if i sold all 5, I would get 3k, so I'm earning 1.2k in the process.

After just talking to a couple of close friends whom had younger siblings that is still studying, I really dont have the heart to push/force my friends into listening me crapping any longer. Maybe I'm not the pushy marketing talker person, I dont know but I just feel bad, its like u ajak them out and u talk something they are not interested, next time they will avoid u or leave you out. I'm not muka tembok enough to be a great at talking where I can convince people. No offence to people who can talk and convince, I'm just saying its my weakness or I'm being unlucky not to be blessed with this ability.

Now I'm still having this 5 set not knowing what to do with them, collecting dust somewhere~

Oh btw, my cousin NEVER talk nor contact me anymore after I've signed up.

Anyone want all 5 cards for RM1k? can nego too hehehe jk (I'm serious if u r up for it ahahahah)

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I forget to mention, my dad supported me and he paid for this 1.8k hoping I can make my own extra pocket money.
Right now I can only pray that NO ONE EVER EVER EVER BRING UP THIS TOPIC AT ALL!!! >.< Hoping he doesnt remember paying such huge amount.
I dont have the heart to tell him I've wasted his rm1.8k that he happily support me. I feel really bad  cry.gif I promise to myself to make up for him by getting a proper job after graduating
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ive read 3 page of this topic, which is quite dramatic. unfortunately, i cant afford to waste more time reading this kind of drama anymore.

heres my opinion from an investor perspective : the product has a very limited target buyers. and the business model aint sustainable. even a MLM on the product likechocolates and perfumes is more sustainable than this.

reason: the product is a crap (just read the first 3 pages) and the most important one : the product is actually a service have an expiry date. buy a package, log in, after 6 months, it becomes goner? sucks....

and i deeply touched with alexision's post, that guy gains my sympathy, i wish you "all the best and good luck". and LONG LIVE your dad!!!!! your dad is awesome!!!!!
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post Feb 10 2011, 10:16 AM

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in my opinion, just dont judge it before you get to know more details about it. and then simply saying that its fishy or cheats your money or what so ever.

the people that approached me they were not forcing me or pushing me, they were just sharing opportunities with everyone of us. if you dont believe it or dont keen of it, okay u can always say no. but after that dont go around and talk bullshit about what they're doing and the company.

since its approved by the syiarah law, i'm sure this business is nothing cheating or illegal or inmoral?? because i heard its not easy to get approval from the syiarah law as a halal business?

and what i got to know about this company is that, yes, it's MLM scheme. but its not like other direct selling MLM. because the downline can always earn more than the leader or upline. other MLM is just the leader always get to earn more then the downline have to work harder and harder.

nevertheless, you rather sell households/healthy products or something beneficial like this educational e-learning thing. like they say, education never dies. yes, its also true that some people need tuition teacher to guide them and all. but think about it, when the parents send the children to tuition centre, how many of them are really concentrating?? how would the parents know? but with this score-A thing, the parents could guide them at home and watch them doing this, this will strengthen the bond between them as well.

If you're saying that there are not many people having internet at home, but what i see nowadays is that even a primary students using IPHONE4 already.. who doesnt have facebook? everyone is catching up with the growth of environment..

besides that, some of you are saying that, people only focus more on the business plan rather than the product. but it really just depend on how you see it. for me, the reason why im considering this is because its something beneficial. i could help my siblings as well.

everything you do in life is a risk, there's nothing certainty. even you walk out of the road, there might be a car bumping into you, who knows right?? so i think its a good opportunity to do this investment. just think about it, 2.5k is not quite a big amount. we spend on drinking/clubbing/cigarrates/shopping oso can spend this big amount. why not giving it a try??

these are just my point of view. no offence.
those who misunderstand about it, maybe the people approach you didnt make it clear or dont know how to present it to you.
IF you're willing to give it a try, i could introduce my friends to you. just PM me..


Added on February 10, 2011, 10:25 amand many of you only heard about the 6mths account thingy, maybe the people who approach you didnt explain more to you OR you didnt give them time to talk??

theres another account which you pay for RM796 that you can use the portal for 1year. second child free. if a family have two kids, the parents are not losing.

come out for a talk to get to know more about it.
ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS that you wanna ask like i do..
then you'll get a better picture of it..
rather than you reading what other says here..
and you see why they need so many people to join this network?
because people spread news really fast.

if anyone interested to find out more,
pm me to make an appointment, then i would ask my friends to approach you.
just sharing. not forcing.

cheers!! smile.gif

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Sorry for thread jacking but just to let you guys know i just joined a new mlm. Yes i am going to be straight forward. So many ppl are against mlm but many do not know how much they can earn if they work hard.

This is for ppl who wan some extra income doing this part time.

The good thing is that this is a listed company on klse but is new in mlm. Therefore whoever that wishes to join now will be one of the pioneers hence the market will be bigger.

I am looking for positive and open minded ppl to join me. Those negative and anti mlm ppl pls stay away.

Pm me and i will explain to you further . If you like it, we discuss further if not then no problem.
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QUOTE(john123x @ Feb 9 2011, 10:55 PM)
ive read 3 page of this topic, which is quite dramatic. unfortunately, i cant afford to waste more time reading this kind of drama anymore.

heres my opinion from an investor perspective : the product has a very limited target buyers. and the business model aint sustainable.  even a MLM on the product likechocolates and perfumes is more sustainable than this.

reason: the product is a crap (just read the first 3 pages) and the most important one : the product is actually a service have an expiry date. buy a package, log in, after 6 months, it becomes goner? sucks....

and i deeply touched with alexision's post, that guy gains my sympathy, i wish you "all the best and good luck". and LONG LIVE your dad!!!!! your dad is awesome!!!!!
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Just my opinion...not criticism icon_rolleyes.gif

Since you are an investor i supposed you understand that we must study the future growth of the product. Internet learning is going to be the future trend, whether o not we accept it. How much funds has government and private sectors inject in to bring up the IT and communication field in Malaysia? We may not be the best in IT for our region currently but we are heading towards that direction. Even Google is establishing office in Malaysia:D

And again as an investor i supposed u know tat we shudn judge sumthin based on the 'skin' only. You must truly understand the product before defining it as a 'crap'. Score A may not be the most perfect (nothing is perfect) product, but it is definitely one alternative for parents to further enhance their guidance on their children education. It provides a way for parents to supervise and keep track with children education. Of coz to be really successful in scoring Ás depends on the kid and the parents. Parents can set targets for children to complete then spend some time with them. This is what kids cherish. You should find a proper score a distributor and find out the truth yourself, not merely reading blogs and forums.

And about this business, there are no competitors. There are some webeducation products but none of them supports parents and children involvement, mostly are just exercises and answers. Parents stil hav no idea about the progress of their children. By using Score A parents can keep track daily. And if you were to do Amway, Cosway or watever Way, you have to compete with many other healthcare o bodycare companies. And you need to hit sales target, buy products etc. Even if we can do tat we cant make sure that our downlines bein able to do tat. That is when the network stucks n some ppl cant earn. Then they blame tat the company is a scam o they are cheated etc. Kenshido does not require us to hit sales target nor spend money on buying products for ouselves like wat many ppl is doin wif amway, herbalife, vemma etc. The network is much more stable when compared. You must understand the whole system personally and c the future growth of the product and company, and set ur mindset properly whether you have the perseverance to do it.

I wil not deny tat im in tis business as well. I'm stil a student now and my parents, already around 60 years old stil need to work to earn money for my uni life. Even after i graduate my salary will not allow me to ask them to stop working and enjoy their retirement life. House loans, car loans, insurance, etc. I've tried numbers of part time, 'save eat save use' and stil i do not have much savings. Life expenditures is rising faster then salary income. What if suddenly sumthin bad happens?(hope not!) How would i be able to help them? stop uni and start working? then end up with 2-3k salary for the whole life? Life is unpredictable, tis is one chance to have extra income, legally. There's nth to lose as well, only one time investment, and you can always sell the portals if your network does not move at all, which is impossible unless you joined an irresponsible team o leader. Im just doing part time and have already earn back my capital in one month, haven't sell the portal yet. Just make sure your leaders are responsible and helpful before you join, keep in contact wif them, be proactive in learning then you are set to earn, less o much doesn matters. At least there is something extra. Money does not come freely. Even banks can go bankrupt anytime right?... happy.gif


Added on February 14, 2011, 1:16 pm
QUOTE(-Davidoff- @ Feb 6 2011, 02:22 AM)
Come on.. If score A is really works, what for go for tuition? They will keep tel u how good how big income u will earn and tel u, u get how many member get how many pairs get how much. the product is useless.
U are selling the plan, not the product. All my fren intro score A to me. i shoot them 99 untill they notin to say.
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Can i ask u back the same thing?

If Eumora Skin Health Bar really works, why need skin doctors?

Don't you feel that this is a foolish question? Why spend hard time promoting ur product everywer? Nothing is perfect in this world. Maybe you got ur information from a wrong person, Score A is not to replace teachers and parents. It is to enhance n provide more output methods for kids, and parents can involve together in their learning progress. If you do not understand what is Score A n Kenshido then pls keep your words right. Thank you smile.gif

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Looks like there's a lot of defenders for this business. What says more when you have the endorsement of the Ibu Pendidikan Negara rolleyes.gif
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Just read the newspaper some few days/weeks ago, Score-A is opening its branch in KK.

Some of my salesman/women friend who used to sell properties are part time doing Score-A.
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[size=7]I know a high rank person in this company. He is my old schoolmate.

He knows the informations about this company from top to bottom.

You may think it is some negative MLM company but it is not. It is a company working on modernised bureaucratic environment rather than traditional rigid chain of command.

You may feel that is is negative but after you know in depth, its is not. It is legal.

Just pm me who interested. I will organize for you guys. Please, I do not earn a single $ from these.


I'm just helping my old friend expand his business


and its legal.

[COLOR=green]Based your knowledge on fact from company itself and not listening from opinion which are rumuors. Listen only judge. Do not simply judge then listen......[/
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Hello all. Recently I went for this talk or seminar on score A program. At first my friend just invited me to it and since i got nothing better to do anyway so I followed him for the fun of it. My friend did told me it will be something like Qnet. When for the Qnet talk before was amazed that I could make so much money if I did it but after seeing their products especially the biodisc which I did some research about I straight away ran...LOL

After that talk, they told us there is another seminar called the suwd5 for RM 70 which will explain more detailed on their product and plan. Was kinda interested so I also when for this talk.

This talk had 3 session.The first session they explain what is their product all about and how it is endorse by the ministers and all. They even have a picture of themselves and Tun Mahathir in his office. Showed us how other children benefited from this program and their marks have gone up tremendously after using this program.

2nd session they showed us how people who join this program have earned a lucrative salary, those who earn a 5 figure income and how they made a so many millionaires. I gotta say the speaker for this session was very energetic and funny and everyone really like him. He told us his story that he himself before joining this company couldn't even survive in KL but after seeing this opportunity he grabbed it and now his very successful.
Speaker gave us some facts and figures quoting Colonel Sanders and Thomas Edison on which how they never gave up even though they keep on failing. Funny thing is they said Colonel failed 9001 times and Edison failed like 20001 times before making the light-bulb. I was like what......I thought Sanders failed 1009 and Edison was like 1000 times only. Speaker confidently said we are not lying this is real facts and figures.....

Then the speaker said that out in this whole world only 10% are rich because they are positive minded and the other 90% are not rich because they are negative minded. He then further breakdown the 90%. Saying out of the 90%, 10% can change and will try to make and effort to change. The rest are always whining about their problems but never willing to change, will discourage people, and influencing the rest of not to dream so big or dreaming the impossible. Then quoted the Wright brothers.

3rd session they show us how would you make money if you were to buy our packages which is the eUser , ePartner and the eEntrepreneur. They had 4 ways which is the matching point system and royalty system. Sorry can't really recall what were the other 2 about. All you need to do is just bring 4 people in your whole life and in 3 months time you will earn a lot.

At the end they encourage us to sign up for this an opportunity that only come once in a lifetime.

Being me...i just don't know how to say no or reject them so i just fill in the forms only. Didn't pay for anything cause I told them im just a student I myself don't have that kind of money. They told me is alright cause there is a way to get the modal even if you didn't have the cash. They said try to borrow from your friends or some one you could trust cause that's what they did and not long later they manage to pay back for the modal.

Was kinda tempting cause the smallest modal is only 796 and I could work for 1 month to get this amount and more. But then I did some research on this which then brought me here to this thread. Really wish I was like Dr Carl Lightman (Lie to me) or Patrick Jane (The Mentalist).....to spot if they are really honest or just lying in a very believing way.

Don't mean to be racist or anything but the majority of the people who became millionaires and had attend for this seminar are........(im sure you guys can figure out this 1)

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