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 COMPLAIN CPMPLAIN MODERATOR LYN, SIMPLY DELETE MY THREAD

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Omochao
post Jul 16 2009, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(esca_flo @ Jul 16 2009, 10:07 PM)
seriously dude.....ask ppl with modded console what is their main purpose for it to be modded ,  maybe 1 out of 100000 will say they use it for homebrew bla bla bla bullshit.  in truth ,  its only for pirated games because its "free game"
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Thanks,for that comment I'm not replying to any of your messages anymore....bullshit or no bullshit...there are people out there who does modding just for the sake of testing out homebrew and not pirated games....you'll never know there are pro hard-core Sony supporters. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 16 2009, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Jul 16 2009, 09:47 PM)
Providing good service doesn't mean that he'll be allowed to sell pirated games here. You have rules to follow should you want to run your sales here. Nobody is excluded from it.
The Rules and Regulations had been pinned up for years therefore I believe there's no excuse for not adhering to it. We had been constantly dropping verbal reminders in some of the seller's thread but advise were not taken hence we got no choice but to just nuke them for good.
We don't give two hoots to what you are practicing outside as long as you be good and abide to the R&R should you choose to sell your products in LYN.
You've been asking us why so serious but ironically you've been repeating seriously for at least 2 times. So why so cooked up over such tiny matter? Have a chill pill smile.gif

Added on July 16, 2009, 9:52 pm

Are you suggesting to us that we should 'teach' him how to indirectly sell his prohibited products via the methods above? Don't you think that it's plain absurd? End of the day we'll have more cases of "Hey, I've been cheated by xxx shop and they gave me pirated stuff" in our Trade Zone Dispute Corner. The worst is when they start blaming us for 'teaching' the sellers wonderful ways to hide or indirectly promote those illegal items to the innocent buyers and are you gonna responsible for all these? Do ponder.
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No la, every Malaysian with common sense will know how to differentiate ori and pirated, I understand that this forum cannot be seen selling pirated stuff, but to TS, instead of complaining, you should just mention "PM me for freebies, negotiate, etc"
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post Jul 16 2009, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(Omochao @ Jul 16 2009, 10:00 PM)
Maybe you got the wrong meaning sir,I wasn't being hostile...it was just two cents on it....,don't worry...I ain't getting hyped up for such a small matter. wink.gif
Before you speak or type,try going through what this sellers are going through in their perspective....you think is easy if your shops is gonna survive alone with just original games...go ahead...no one is stopping you but you'll be suffering for a heck of a time.
To be a trade enforcer I believe is to be able to understand what the sellers are also going through in times like these.
And before jumping to conclusions about teaching whatever to sellers on how to indirectly promote illegal items, please do so look at those feedback comments that are posted previously in Nelson's thread. Majority of them are good comments and because of that I only went to him and got my PSP and PS3.
As a Trade Enforcer, I'm assigned to clamp down threads which goes against the R&R to protect our forum from unnecessary threats should there's any dispute. Open your eyes, don't just look from a narrow point of view. Look at what if LYN getting sued for allowing the trading of pirated stuff?

Also, like what I've mentioned earlier, we don't give two hoots of whether the seller is providing good service or not. That wouldn't make us exclude him from the R&R.

On the other hand, I've just sent nelson for 3 days vacation for creating duplicate account to give false feedback in his personal sales thread.


Added on July 16, 2009, 10:22 pm
QUOTE(karhoe @ Jul 16 2009, 10:17 PM)
No la, every Malaysian with common sense will know how to differentiate ori and pirated
I beg to differ. We don't need to have this if everyone practices common sense all the time.

This post has been edited by vikingw2k: Jul 16 2009, 10:26 PM
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post Jul 16 2009, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Jul 16 2009, 10:18 PM)
As a Trade Enforcer, I'm assigned to clamp down threads which goes against the R&R to protect our forum from unnecessary threats should there's any dispute. Open your eyes, don't just look from a narrow point of view. Look at what if LYN getting sued for allowing the trading of pirated stuff?

. Also, like what I've mentioned earlier, we don't give two hoots of whether the seller is providing good service or notThat wouldn't make us exclude him from the R&R.

On the other hand, I've just sent nelson for 3 days vacation for creating duplicate account to give false feedback in his personal sales thread.

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Ok....I've understand your point and stand on it....I know that your job comes with a heavy burden and consequences if you were to take it lightly and just cover one eyes over a small thing.
And yes,I've got to agree that LYN will get sued for allowing trading pirated stuffs.And I personally wouldn't want that to happen.
Sorry for viewing it narrowly and because the way I view might jeopardize the entire forum credibility.

Lolwut?Nelson created a dupe to give false feedback?I'm seriously disappointed on that..... sad.gif doh.gif


Anyway,thanks for the nice discussion and explanation vikingw2k....hopefully you don't take this matter seriously.No harm done.
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post Jul 16 2009, 10:30 PM

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LYN has very good reason to be strict on the issue of piracy, because they will get into serious trouble if the authorities catch wind of people using the forums to sell pirated software.

Contrary to popular assumption, public forums are not democracies, and do not guarantee you any rights to use it. The site owners, staff and mods aren't obliged to answer to you or provide any reason for actions taken on you, and if they do its a courtesy.

Frankly, my take is that if you want to use any free forums, you play by their rules or gtfo.

Arguing, railing and whining is childish and won't get you anywhere.

Remember, "when in Rome, do as the Romans do."

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post Jul 16 2009, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(Omochao @ Jul 16 2009, 10:24 PM)

Lolwut?Nelson created a dupe to give false feedback?I'm seriously disappointed on that..... sad.gif  doh.gif

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I won't say much.
But I can tell you he's been doing this since day 1.

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post Jul 16 2009, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(~LynX~ @ Jul 16 2009, 10:30 PM)
LYN has very good reason to be strict on the issue of piracy, because they will get into serious trouble if the authorities catch wind of people using the forums to sell pirated software.

Contrary to popular assumption, public forums are not democracies, and do not guarantee you any rights to use it. The site owners, staff and mods aren't obliged to answer to you or provide any reason for actions taken on you, and if they do its a courtesy.

Frankly, my take is that if you want to use any free forums, you play by their rules or gtfo.

Arguing, railing and whining is childish and won't get you anywhere.

Remember, "when in Rome, do as the Romans do."

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Nicely said...thumbs up for you.

QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jul 16 2009, 10:32 PM)
I won't say much.
But I can tell you he's been doing this since day 1.

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Well....I've to understand that when people are desperate for money...they'll tend to take desperate ways as well.
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post Jul 16 2009, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jul 16 2009, 10:32 PM)
I won't say much.
But I can tell you he's been doing this since day 1.

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Hit the REPORT button the next time you sniffed him doing so. Help this community to reduce pests like them. smile.gif

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Does this count as a multiple account then?
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1099077
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post Jul 16 2009, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(esca_flo @ Jul 16 2009, 10:01 PM)
yeah right , modding only means 1 thing here in malaysia , all of us know what its for.  dont cheat yourself.  deep down we all know it. but refuse to admit it in the open.

just saying that if thread with "free games" get the bin.  thread with "modded" hardware should do to. No double standards on this things. we cant fight piracy when its only convenient for us.
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There are people with modded consoles but not for piracy purpose in this country I can assure you. If you are talking about XBox 360 then yes, but for other consoles that's not quite true.
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post Jul 16 2009, 11:19 PM

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In my opinion if the seller is saying modded only, it doesn't have to be considered modded for piracy, the are lots kind of mod including case mod for one of the example.

If its written only as "modded console", what goes behind the scene is beyond LYN responsibility. So I guess it can be permitted. Unless LYN require the seller to state what kind of mod for that console. But why bother if LYN is not affiliated to Microsft nor been fund by them to counter piracy for their stuff.
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QUOTE(esca_flo @ Jul 16 2009, 10:01 PM)
yeah right , modding only means 1 thing here in malaysia , all of us know what its for.  dont cheat yourself.  deep down we all know it. but refuse to admit it in the open.

just saying that if thread with "free games" get the bin.  thread with "modded" hardware should do to. No double standards on this things. we cant fight piracy when its only convenient for us.
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Man, if PJ were around, he'd whip your head 3 ways through Sunday for saying that.

I'm not a console gamer and even I know (Through being reminded very frequently) that there's more to modding than playing "backup games".

The thing is, with "Free games", its almost certainly pirated games (If it weren't, there'd definitely be an "ori" added to it or there'd be a tremendous price hike). If it isn't, all we're asking sellers to do is specify what are these free gifts.

With modding, its not a sure thing. There ARE actual non-piracy related reasons to console modding and we cannot punish these ppl just because there are others who are in it just for piracy.

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QUOTE(prasys @ Jul 16 2009, 07:54 PM)
Exactly , some people do mod their consoles in order to run homebrew programs. For instance my Playstation 2 is a modified console - this allows me to run Linux on it or to play pong or even run GameBoy colour emulator to play some classic GBC games. The main reason why its modified or what-so-ever its because to allow folks to come up with homebrew applications and programs. This concept applies to iPhone as well and its known as jailbreak

That's why SONY came up with a method to prevent PS3 from being modded for the purpose of running homebrew stuff - instead they allowed folks to run Linux on it so that they can experiment with it and run their own programs in Linux ! - Smart eh
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That's obvious piracy, first the emulator contains bios that is the property of Nintendo, secondly I don't recall any GBC games released can be loaded using an emulator. Homebrew does not carry the meaning of emulation.

Edit: Examples of recent homebrew games include DUX and Last Hope

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iyo..... this is universal forum everywan oso got they'r own business ...
no need to show that u r the wan who r dealing here some more dealing in this forum dont need to use $$$ ... juz FREE ... so, think positive la ... wat rule is rule la ... juz think positive tk it easy and everythings go fine.. juz my opinion cheers and hv a nice day ahead .

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I concur with what one of the staff said , running a forum is no easy task , and there must be some sort of dictatorship , if you feel you can do things better , hey , phpbb is free , and hosting is cheap now , you can sail in your own direction and be with those who want to follow in that direction , but you'd take responsibility for whatever happens for trading counterfeit items .
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oh mai...FREE games

i dont see TS replying any of the reasons given to him here...instead i see other members replying in his stead?

the device that has been modded itself is still considered legitimate to sell due to the reason it is manufactured officially by the company itself

games that are so called "free" are actually burned downloaded programs from god knows where

so isint it so darn right straight forward that is is already?

if you are bundling the product then state clearly that it is original games, how hard could that be?

and didnt the trade enforcer REMINDED you about this?

funny how some ppl react here, when the forum admins are doing their job to rid off piracy users complain

when didnt do anything to reduce piracy user also complain

wtf la...as a tech based forum we should be supporting original...dahlah selling fakes...lagi mau kecoh

ROFL! what a joke!
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QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Jul 17 2009, 03:09 AM)
oh mai...FREE games

i dont see TS replying any of the reasons given to him here...instead i see other members replying in his stead?
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He was on suspension because creating dupe accounts to bump and gives his thread an "oomphh" wink.gif

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i have something to ask

if my customer use my WIFI or PC to login his account to bump thread also be suspend??
it is same ip
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post Jul 17 2009, 10:08 AM

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WiFi?

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