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 AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V19, There's still few beasts hiding...

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post Sep 10 2009, 06:40 AM

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Sep 10 2009, 01:09 AM)
xixo...which timing u alter to make the copy and write speed that fast?

most important the copy....
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the key is main timing.. the memory read/write/copy depend on the clock speed of the proc, if i use low clock eventhough the ram speed is same, i couldnt get same bandwidth..

trfc effect on stability.. don't leave at auto, try to set to the exact value...
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post Sep 10 2009, 07:16 AM

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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Sep 10 2009, 06:40 AM)
the key is main timing.. the memory read/write/copy depend on the clock speed of the proc, if i use low clock eventhough the ram speed is same, i couldnt get same bandwidth..

trfc effect on stability.. don't leave at auto, try to set to the exact value...
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this is not good...huuuu.. i just notice ur NB freq is higher then mine... that will lead to it surely...
there are 4 trfc... deng..later tweak my ram again.biostar dun have a huge number of timings that can be adjusted in the bios..im grateful laugh.gif
now installing gtaIV... and so try the power of quad core (i never leave my PC unlock for more then 2hrs before..now about to)

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Sep 10 2009, 07:16 AM)
this is not good...huuuu.. i just notice ur NB freq is higher then mine... that will lead to it surely...
there are 4 trfc... deng..later tweak my ram again.biostar dun have a huge number of timings that can be adjusted in the bios..im grateful  laugh.gif
now installing gtaIV... and so try the power of quad core (i never leave my PC unlock for more then 2hrs before..now about to)
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lulz.. come2.. put higher NB plz tongue.gif

4 trfc represent each slot.. so just put all the same same value.. so, no need to think it represent which slot...
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post Sep 10 2009, 08:28 AM

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normally tfrc will stated from 0 to 3 dimm..
so can specify which..
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post Sep 10 2009, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Sep 10 2009, 08:28 AM)
normally tfrc will stated from 0 to 3 dimm..
so can specify which..
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post Sep 10 2009, 09:07 AM

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actually trfc depends on device density..

normal min. spec for module
256Mb - 75ns
512Mb - 105ns
1Gb - 127.5ns
2Gb - 195ns
4Gb - 327ns

so pick which ever suitable.. it came from the ram freq n also tCK
in between of REF and Act..

haa.. kan dah pening.. lupakan je la.. ikut je kat atas tu..
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post Sep 10 2009, 11:04 AM

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after changing mobo... OC not stable anymore with the previous settings.. didn't reinstall windows.. not sure if it's the problem...
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post Sep 10 2009, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(yvliew @ Sep 10 2009, 11:04 AM)
after changing mobo... OC not stable anymore with the previous settings.. didn't reinstall windows.. not sure if it's the problem...
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use old window.. with old setting ( previous board driver contain on windows)??

different board, of course different result

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post Sep 10 2009, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Sep 10 2009, 11:06 AM)
use old window.. with old setting ( previous board driver contain on windows)??

different board, of course different result
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not major change though on drivers, most components should be the same as I only change from 780 to 785, only IGP changed, but i'm not using internal graphics.
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post Sep 10 2009, 11:51 AM

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hi xixo.. i just want to ask u something.. is it worth it to upgrade to ddr3 board??
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post Sep 10 2009, 11:54 AM

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I think not for now.It would bring minimal improvement only.
I suggest wait next year la..you tukar whistling.gif
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post Sep 10 2009, 12:51 PM

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@xixo & 8tvt
tengkiuk2...is all timing tighter is better? or there is certain timing that need to use the suitable value only (like the trfc above) - dont include stability issue here...just for performance...

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change after DFI UT board come to malaysia shore..
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post Sep 10 2009, 01:05 PM

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tighten ram timing is always better if the ram capable doing it..
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QUOTE(yvliew @ Sep 10 2009, 11:08 AM)
not major change though on drivers, most components should be the same as I only change from 780 to 785, only IGP changed, but i'm not using internal graphics.
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owh ok.. smile.gif

QUOTE(mozact89 @ Sep 10 2009, 11:51 AM)
hi xixo.. i just want to ask u something.. is it worth it to upgrade to ddr3 board??
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not worth, unless change platform which need triple channel yoh wub.gif

QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Sep 10 2009, 12:51 PM)
@xixo & 8tvt
tengkiuk2...is all timing tighter is better? or there is certain timing that need to use the suitable value only (like the trfc above) - dont include stability issue here...just for performance...

@mozact
change after DFI UT board come to malaysia shore..
kekkekekek -ini sis verdict gelak
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play with basic timing timing is enough.. for sure tighter mean good.. but do test urself on it.. coz it will yield different result.. left the result to software, and make a judgement toward it..
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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Sep 10 2009, 01:51 PM)
@xixo & 8tvt
tengkiuk2...is all timing tighter is better? or there is certain timing that need to use the suitable value only (like the trfc above) - dont include stability issue here...just for performance...

@mozact
change after DFI UT board come to malaysia shore..
kekkekekek -ini sis verdict gelak
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He He He....x baik mengate bolan pose nyah! auwww! wub.gif

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post Sep 10 2009, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Sep 10 2009, 01:05 PM)
play with basic timing timing is enough.. for sure tighter mean good.. but do test urself on it.. coz it will yield different result.. left the result to software, and make a judgement toward it..
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noting much leh...the score still far behind...
here some ss while i prime + study abit
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QUOTE(verdict @ Sep 10 2009, 01:43 PM)
He He He....x baik mengate bolan pose nyah! auwww! wub.gif
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u pigi mana lame xnmpk nyah
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post Sep 10 2009, 02:19 PM

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SPC? engineering student meh? laugh.gif
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post Sep 10 2009, 02:26 PM

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what's with that SS? urs?
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post Sep 10 2009, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Sep 10 2009, 02:19 PM)
SPC? engineering student meh? laugh.gif
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no lah..
i learn almos everything in my field..but all of em are on the surface..and i hate it...

QUOTE(8tvt @ Sep 10 2009, 02:26 PM)
what's with that SS? urs?
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yes..mine..to compare how low the copy bandwidth vs xixo punya...
i dont want to OC anymore this week...

this raya if can get more monney, ill spend some on cooler rather then sempronII..
3.6ghz x4 @1.32vcore temp is at 50c..and i hate it...
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post Sep 10 2009, 02:36 PM

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after reinstall windows .. the new board still couldn't hold 3.8ghz stable..... seems like a downgrade to me....... can't unlock 4th core, can't OC higher than b4... @#$@$%@$

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