well, i think most of us will drink. i can see the pro drinking during the run.

Yeap.
owh ok, sorry for the misunderstanding cuz I tot you're talking about 5km pulak den say muz drink water I was like, hahh?

haha yea they complete the distance but to me its more onto building up your patience, stamina etc. So its more relevant to run and try to do it non stop the whole way then to chit chatty.

woiii. It is not a nais thing to say k. People around me uses the word 'marathon' for 5KM and above, and I was lead into this thinking w/o checking out the real meaning. Yes, thats my fault.

No I am not into long-distance running. I dun like it. I am in it cause I am forced to cuz I'm good at it. 
And yes, I kenot say no.

Marathon is an overused word. I pointed that out before. I almost burst into laughter but yet sad at the same time reading the past few posts.

Ultra marathon: Any distance more than 42.195KM
Marathon: 42.195KM
Half marathon: 21.1KM
Quarter marathon: 10KM

Please get this facts right before issueing a statement here. One wrong statement may costs a person's life here.

i'm training for my upcoming 1/2 mara. due to my laziness i've just started training.
i'm wondering if power gels are really necessary? cos its quite expensive la.
any good substitute for power gels that are cheaper or just as good?

suggestions needed.

to me those power bars/power gels are used to build up confidence. It does help a lil, yes, but no obvious difference.

Don't play play.
She's an 18minute 5km-er.
Cuz a person might dehydrate and die because you said don't drink for a marathon.

maybe I have dehydrated body that needs more replenishment compared to seasoned runners......I really sweat a heck lot.....for a 10 or 11k, underwear also wet like nobody biz.......

i've not done any lsd more than 15km. this weekend plan to do 15km.
well....after a 10km run...i still feel ok(can still walk around). probably cos i've not tried going more than that.
15km? this weekend run edi then i'll know how i feel. 

sigh. BECAUSE I'VE TRIED IT. I am a swimmer also btw for 10 years competing in state and nationals. What do you think? 
wokay. really sorry for the misunderstanding
Now I learn a new definition haha.

yeah...my max so far is ard 10km oni. i know i should have trained more.
and yeah...pbim 1/2 mara. i know i'm doomed.
so i guess i do not really need those exp gels eh?

don't doubt it when you dunno. We take power gels for recovery actually. But to improve on performance power gel can't help much.
I used power gel once for short distance 6km run, turns out wasn't really that effective. that's why I said that.
And do chill. Yes it differs individually.
haha. You'll never know to understand power gel and power bar's usage, do use it often and be observant.

It doesn't matter now. Learn from your mistake. We are not here to bombard you, just helping others and yourself get certain facts right.

As for running and swimming, the calory consumption is a big difference. Yes, you might not need energy gels for swimming, but it's a must for running for most of the runners including elites and  even the world marathon record holder.
d3vilzzzz: The half marathon distance for Penang Bridge International Marathon this year is 21KM. AIMS certified.

ahha...ok since training no need hor...then do u think during event day if i take some...will have any side effect? i takut lau sai and etc le....esp body not used to stuff like this.  wats ur take on this?
yah...gonna run further and further. and yes...i only have 25 days more.   

Go join swimming and compete
give you 'power' = to improve performance liao lor =.=lll
And this statement was made based on my experience.

Let me clear the air here a little.

I am very sure euphoria meant this:

Powergels/bars etc, in her experience, bring no benefit in her ex-competitive sports.
Eg: 5km runs and swimming

Just note this euphoria:
The guys here are talking about the benefits of powergels in LONG distance running.
Eg: >10km runs.

Please read before just posting. Not to flame but have noticed that you post things before you actually read and understand all the replies. For example in the bodybuilding forum. i was like ??? when u just out of the blue post something without reading the previous replies or understanding what the people actually meant.

Sidenote:

I still can't believe my time...
Put on my new saucony's today and ran a 20min 13sec 5km.
Previously my fastest time was 26min 20sec.
Still feels unreal and I totally get it if some people can't believe it  . But this was after I push myself to run 10km (last week). Before this 7km was my limit.
- these dedicated running shoes are the lightest shoes i've ever had and it's 11.2oz. I can't imagine what the 7.8oz shoes feel like (like barefoot?  ).
- and my knees don't hurt one bit, darn... good shoes really are important...

Wrong person. More like.. 38minute
Important important to at least bring own water. No 7-eleven to buy drinks from .

I read some runners drank water inside sponge bucket.

Euw

*This is embarrassing but I actually ran the 5k in 25min 13sec lol. Not 20 min. No wonder I was wondering why it's possible. Miscalculated...paiseh..
but still a 1 min improvement is not bad. 
If I can improve 1 min every week it'd be awesome but I'm a realist, it'll be crazy difficult. 

Seemed like we have a discussion about feeding here. The thing is, if U use a product other than it's designed for, U won't get the benefits & if U go around telling ppl in doesn't work, then it's worse la. Powergels I believe, is designed to REFUEL, not to recover. That's why it's in gel form, to enable Ur body to absorb it faster. Powerbar has other products designed for recovery. In recent years, becoz of the variety of products that they have, Powerbar has classify their products into 3 categories : Energize, Refuel & Recovery. I bought some Powergels when I was collecting my racepack for Mizuno, the salesperson promoted one of the bars from the Energize category. She said that U dun need to eat breakfast, just eat the bar & it can last for 8 hrs. I just laughed in my heart la. I dun think ANY food can last U 8 hours. Maybe can if U just eat it & go to sleep.

Powerbar was one of the 1st sports-specific energy bars around, it's been around when I was cycling back in 1991-2000 (state & national). Back then, becoz I got no money to buy & Powerbars are not available as widely & as easily as recent times, I used Cloud 9 chocolate bars as my feeding. In cycling (& also in running I believe), the general rule is to feed every one hour. Heck, I even used Cloud 9s during races. The trick is to use stuff that works for U & tastes good, so that U will eat enuff of it. For cycling it was easy to feed & U can still consume solid food. But for running, U need something like a gel la. For swimming, I dunno if U can feed during swimming, I've never seen Ironman swimmers feed during the swimming leg of a race.

Another cheap solution U can try is Choki-choki. It may sound funny, but I relied on those to get me thru 7-8 hours of trekking in thick forest. It's cheap (30 sen each I think), it can last an hour (at least for me), & it's packed in small tubes & U can carry a lot of it. It's in paste form, so U can absorb it quickly & it tastes good.

d3vilzzzz: How can I say I'm ready when I did not prepare for it at all. LOLz... My hotel everything already settled. What's the size for your Elite Compression Tights? For men, I'm only left with Size Small, which I think should suit you nicely. Am bringing it to Terry Fox Run tomorrow so you know where to find me. Will be there early.

d3vilzzzz: You FFK me! I waited till 8.30am. 

Brader,  I went 2 size down for my 2XU Elite Compression.  My running shorts and tights are all size L.  Waistline 30"-31" and 175cm.  This is just to give you an indication.  Like Phoenix said if its not tight than no more compression liao.

arrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I didnt take my 2XU with me today =.= ah well. run without it today.

I'm pretty sure it will rain in the evening, will be going to the gym later to run. hamster mode

Now it is raining every evening. How to train like this (orang malas punya question).

eh, not enough sleep wor like that. only 6 hours...

Anyways, i really don't mind running in the rain...only that my shoes might get wet and will take some time to dry.
Was running yesterday for about 5 minutes then it just poured.
So frustrated...

Yup, it doesn't show in the map, I dunno why la. But if it's not demolished or moved, then it's definitely there. U can see a huge empty area at the end of Jalan Padang, sandwiched between Istana Alam Shah, Masjid Sultan Sulaiman & Sekolah Kebangsaan Klang. It's there.

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Dear all amateur runners,

wat they means by sundown?

What is the interval suggested for newbies like me? @@ Cos after 3~4 reps of 20secs jog 10secs sprint I wanna die ady.