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post Oct 13 2009, 01:44 PM

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hmm.gif when is mizuno again?
i still hv yet to collect my bib and all sad.gif
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post Oct 14 2009, 08:43 AM

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thanks all biggrin.gif
and as of nw the oni time me can collect me stuff is in UPM, day before the race ya? hmm.gif

all better rajin rajin DH now tongue.gif
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post Oct 14 2009, 09:21 AM

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hahaha meet up? biggrin.gif
i hv been proposing for LYN members to meet up during competitions, events, norm runs but ... sad.gif
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post Oct 14 2009, 11:16 AM

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where r u frm?

if pj area n all.. malakoff.. else the penang bridge biggrin.gif
after dat... hmmmm
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post Oct 16 2009, 05:42 PM

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so meet up is at the milo van after the face biggrin.gif
my bib i write LYN tongue.gif


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post Oct 20 2009, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(strinq @ Oct 19 2009, 02:13 PM)
Wooh, ran 7km yesterday but slow lah haha.
Really hope to hit 10km without feeling too tired soon...
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hahaha slow is hw slow biggrin.gif ?
i wud think u CAN already hit 10km but mebe nt at ur desired speed smile.gif

so ....MIZUNO is dis weekend.. u peeps up for it??
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post Oct 21 2009, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(strinq @ Oct 20 2009, 11:07 AM)
Hmmm never thought of that, i just run according to my own comfortable pace. It took me about 42 minutes (really slow i know compared to you guys lol but still actually faster than all the casual guys at where i run).

But have seen the UPM runners at the UPM track before...crazy...

But have run with my friends before and they're quite a lot slower and it was easier of course.
True what you said above.
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42mins; that ain't half bad thumbup.gif GAMBATEH!

track running, road running diff r..
but believe me when i say if u train to pecut uphill more often then not, you can be just as fast (mebe nt as fast but definitely improve tongue.gif)

include speed training in the run itself on your norm route(track), nt on a dedicated day, u'll defnitely see the improvement

QUOTE(chgchksg128 @ Oct 20 2009, 05:14 PM)
how u guys tackle the UPM mizuno run this sunday?
a lot of uphills and down hills...
sure punchet
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How?
train train train!!

ur norm training routes or a specific training day should include hill work biggrin.gif

QUOTE(strinq @ Oct 20 2009, 07:13 PM)
woooh, i like that attitude.
But it is very hilly lol.
These few days see a lot of people running the mizuno trail.

Today 5km in 26min 20sec. smile.gif
Really want to dip below 20min in the coming months.
Read online that 26min is ok, and ur athletic if u run in 20min...darn...i'm not athletic...

I actually got my distance wrong the other day...paiseh...it was 4.8km in 27min 15sec. Forgot to run another 200 metres on the track lol.
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5km in 26mins? nt bad nt bad...
sustain that pace for 10km if possible, forget abt the hills ..confirm medal in hand!

QUOTE(chgchksg128 @ Oct 20 2009, 10:17 PM)
haha, too late to train now.
I think i just try my best.
the hope to get the finishing medal is slim
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its nvr too late mate.. today wednesday..
u do double hill 3 days in a row, rest sat then even sun biggrin.gif


WAHSAI shocking.gif this mizuno gt time limit r? and besides its nt 10km oso
hw many mins for the medal?
another KL City day run sad.gif

o btw hw hilly is hilly la?
like DH? worse?

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post Oct 21 2009, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(tenno @ Oct 21 2009, 02:07 PM)
No limit la. Just that the medals are for the 1st 500 finisher only. U sure can be in that 500 la... no sweat one... sweat.gif
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hmm.gif i hope so sad.gif
lotsa fast runners out there.. wow top 500 oni... hmm

o hey all, dun forget to meet up after the run! biggrin.gif
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post Oct 22 2009, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(euphoria88 @ Oct 21 2009, 07:06 PM)
ahh? I tot usually 100 runners?
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Any confirmation peeps biggrin.gif

QUOTE(strinq @ Oct 22 2009, 11:58 AM)
Got my saucony's from ccube today! Oh my they're really light and comfortable...
Can't wait to break it in this evening.
Wooh!
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Which model?
haihz ..me too need new shoes

QUOTE(tenno @ Oct 22 2009, 01:31 PM)
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Good stuff nod.gif

QUOTE(tenno @ Oct 22 2009, 03:16 PM)
Most training programs I've seen only specify the distance or time U have to run, plus at what pace. They dun put there how hard U have to run, in terms of heart rate la. So, actually, U'll do just fine with Nike Sportsband.

I also check out these sites : Cool Running and Active.com Running microsite.
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I think at times there are programs which are heart rate oriented.. like recovery heart rate pace, steady non -pushing heart rate pace and pushing max heart rate pace..being better

I think these programs are better because everyone's heart rate is diff, and its more specific
eg. a beginner and a pro...

If asked to run a 6min/km pace you may not be able to reach such a pace.. but if asked to run at a specific heart rate you can do so if you hv a heart rate monitor ..and of course as you train, you are able to push longer and harder
eg. 142 bpm may use to be your avg when you were a beginner, it would have been more difficult for you to run at a higher avg but as you train your avg bpm will easily be higher translating to you running faster

QUOTE(strinq @ Oct 22 2009, 08:38 PM)
So happy today...my first ever 10km run...actually felt a huge sense of accomplishment.
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1 hr 5min 10sec

Felt like I could go further but at the risk of collapsing.
One Question, anyone here ever collapsed before in a run? Be it in a casual/training/competition run?
Curious to know.
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Congrats! biggrin.gif the wave run then is edi in the bag? whistling.gif
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post Oct 23 2009, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(strinq @ Oct 22 2009, 11:09 PM)
The Progrid Jazz 12. Not a super expensive shoe but it's still super expensive for me lol.
Just very happy to have gotten it, gift from someone. smile.gif
No man...didn't register and never ever raced in my life before.
And 1 hour 5min is super slow lol. Read online that normal guys usually run 10k's at 45 min.  sweat.gif
And the wave run isn't like my normal running which is quite flat.
It's really hilly. Slopes here and there.
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45mins for 10k = normal???????????/!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i can assure its not biggrin.gif bcoz, lemme ask u this if ur a weekend warrior or at most a regular runner.. wats ur fastest time per km?
i m sure many many do not run a 10k in 45 mins
to run 10k in 45 mins, 1km =?

and if lets say ur fastest km for now, doesn't reach the 45mins for 10km mark, can u even sustain that pace for 10km?

jgn risau, chill chill, train train train and you ill improve!

QUOTE(tenno @ Oct 23 2009, 09:09 AM)
I dun think normal ppl can run 10K in 45 mins. Normal athlete maybe la. The world record is 29 mins I think. My Ministry's best runner last year clocked 37 mins (he's a national-class athlete). I just broke the hour last July (on the track). Relax. Dun be so hard on Urself.


Added on October 23, 2009, 9:14 am
I never really run in my training zone. I almost always run at 80% of my max, tht's about 170 bpm. Even if I try to jog easily, my heart rate would go up to 150. But that 170 bpm, I can sustain for quite sometime la. Just that, if I tried to stay in my training zone, I'd be going too slow.
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nod.gif agreed, norm ppl dun run 10k in 45mins
but u shud nw that ur nt suppose to hit 80% like reallli often?

there is a reason why dey want u to start slow? i encountered what you encountered..too slow
but after a while i realize i could run faster without a high bpm, so despite being in the "training zone" my speed improved?
there must b some sort of base training? before hitting the high notes? hmm.gif
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post Oct 23 2009, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(Johannbeckham @ Oct 23 2009, 03:27 PM)
Guys, I want to ask for advice/tips with regards to the best way of loosing weight while training for marathon without starving yourself or any crash diet (because we need to eat appropriately while we're training right?cause we need food to fuel our body for this kind of sport). See, I'm 173cm, 85kg and I think my weight is really wearing me down running for long runs. I think it is my weight that causes the side of knees to hurt during long runs. Tonight I plan to run 11k from my place in Sec 14 then Jalan University all the way to Jalan Gasing, PJ Hilton and back to my place. Hopefully I will be able to finish the run without hurting my knees again.
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honestly, you should just run and eat as per norm..
becoz bear in mind, last time when u eat.. u weren't into running? hence the increase in weight
but having started running, you should see a diff..

but if your serious, do a little research with GOOGLE for the required calories for a male adult biggrin.gif
count what you eat, eat as per recommended..
but the thing is, never ever starve, and i assume you know that if at times you feel hungry it could also mean you haven been drinking enuff water icon_idea.gif

o btw, knees hurting.. aging shoes?
no offense but 85kg at your height isn't half bad and 11km isn't actually that far..
and i assuming you have ran this distance before?
trying taking things a little slower.. a relaxing pace

QUOTE(strinq @ Oct 23 2009, 03:31 PM)
Err, noob question here cuz i've never entered a race before.

What are the average times for the top 10? top 100? Been googling but they don't seem to publish past results unless i've been searching wrong.
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haha avg? and hour is a good time to aim for

QUOTE(tenno @ Oct 23 2009, 05:19 PM)
Of course. During slow days I'll go real slow, almost walking pace. This is especially during the building base phase, usually the first 4 weeks of Ur 12-week program. Even during this base phase, they will include some intervals, maybe not so high intensity ones la.

I'm picking my racepack tomorrow. So, after race we all meet next to the Milo van ah ? I shud be easy to recognize, I'll be wearing Livestrong visor (black color), Oakley M-frame Livestrong & band.

What if there's no Milo van ? hmm.gif
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mm good to hear, i think runners sometime fear to do a slow recovery run as they fear it may somehw affect their training.. rest is good peeps! slow is good!

hey, i am also picking up my pack tommorow biggrin.gif whereabts in UPM serdang btw? in the field or something?

Wahsai! after run me looking for ARMSTRONG runner keke
Me btw will b in a red "PACEMAKER" jersey, my bib will mostly likely have the letter LYN

the progrid jazz12 is a good pair of shoes btw..
my first official pair of running shoes.. unfortunately nvr had the chance to fully utilize them sad.gif
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post Oct 26 2009, 12:44 PM

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Hi all,

I trust you all enjoyed the run biggrin.gif
It was my first time running over there and I certainly didn't expect such a hilly terrain, what more 11km sad.gif

The LAST HILL was the BOMB!!

I think it was really difficult to get there, the starting point sad.gif

I clocked 54'30'' hving pressed me watch as I heard the start gun go off (minus a minute or so for starting in the middle of the pack, hv to walk quite a bit before the official start line for the official net time), my position was 94!! I didn't manage to push as much as I wanted too due to my lack of knowledge in the route and considering my activities the day before..

I too waited at the milo van but left at abt 9.00am, wanted to escape the jam blush.gif i suspected a LYN forumer; NEWTON shoes, seen u running LG but we were nvr properly introduced.. just guessing...

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post Oct 26 2009, 08:01 PM

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Hi there,

most definitely! i m sure many can confirm.. mebe u were starting way way at the back? n me tots me was far bk enuff..

mebe nt a gun firing, but there was definitely something which indicated the start of the run biggrin.gif

anyway, i had a few frens hu mentioned there were "km" markers? i oni saw the one which indicated "10km"

wat abt u guys?

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post Oct 27 2009, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(uglytwinkle @ Oct 27 2009, 01:50 AM)
Jom. tongue.gif

We pusing2 at Kiara Park for 30 rounds But wait until I buy the Adidas.

I am using cheap shoes --? Power.

Cant afford to buy that one.

When I glanced many people wear good shoes, then I believe no wonder they can run easily
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Honestly, you dun need a good pair of shoes to run..
Have you seen people running barefooted clocking great times on the road? if u hv participated in events i m sure u will..

If you have the heart to run, any shoe will do, try shorter distances? run on the grass? track?

QUOTE(vin_ann @ Oct 27 2009, 08:18 AM)
1 water station for 11km is more than enough...

my fren who run under 50mins did not drink at all...
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hmm.gif personal preference I guess
I myself din stop though.. I guess norm is when we train.. like 8/10 km on norm days we dun drink water..
I doubt if there is a dwnside to drinking water in the middle of a 10km run

QUOTE(strinq @ Oct 27 2009, 09:31 AM)
from what i read you're not suppose to drink in a 5km or 10km race.
maybe just the first 5km drink a bit but after the halfway mark better don't drink cuz ur body won't absorb the water in time anyway.
suppose to be well hydrated before the race.
half marathons and full marathons are another story lah. smile.gif
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hmm.gif personal preference?
I use to try and drink at like the 10km mark in half marathons, but I felt it din go down realli well...
I now tend nt to drink or oni at the 18/19 km mark.. just to wet me mouth tongue.gif

QUOTE(ccube @ Oct 27 2009, 10:41 AM)
Get a Value for money SAUCONY from me.
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nod.gif AGREED

@Johannbeckham
Where do run in PJ Sec 14?
I am frm SS2 PJ, My runs norm take me to JayaOne, DutchLady, DUMC biggrin.gif

We could meet up smile.gif

Anyone else frm PJ area?

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post Oct 27 2009, 12:43 PM

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harlo

hmm.gif won't be able to join you today if your starting at 8pm today sad.gif
brick training for me today (if the weather is good)

Run -5km
Bike -34km
Run -4km

Join me? hehe brows.gif

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post Oct 27 2009, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(Johannbeckham @ Oct 27 2009, 02:19 PM)
tak boleh... i dun have a bike yet. tri-bike is so expensive.
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i dun hv a tri bike either..
just a norm bike.. hope to meet up soon biggrin.gif

QUOTE(strinq @ Oct 27 2009, 03:19 PM)
Eh was wondering, runners should have a pretty low resting heart rate right?
Just calculated mine, it's about 63 bpm.

- just saw in a running forum that a lot have about 50.
- ok acquired target tongue.gif

A huge improvement when i was slacking for the past few years. It was at about 80++.

Had a junior who had a rate of about 30+ - 40. Crazy...but he's a crazy runner...
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Mine is.. hehe dunno la.. nvr realli check when me resting.. when i m running i knw la haha

QUOTE(euphoria88 @ Oct 27 2009, 03:59 PM)
nope. Marathon if you're running all the way it is advised not to drink at all. Only drink b4 races.
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so its advised that when u run a marathon u dun drink water at all?
so why the many water stations in a full or half marathon event?
what can i say? great advice?
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post Oct 27 2009, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(euphoria88 @ Oct 27 2009, 04:34 PM)
Yes. Depends on what marathon events, they have it for the public usually, those who can't stand. Not everyone go for marathons the main reason is to run ok.  But if you're a real runner who run for competitions you should know not to consume any water during run cuz you'll slack eventually. Its common sense, so regarding your last question, its a yes biggrin.gif
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hmm.gif participating in a marathon nt too run?
interesting? so what do you do in a marathon?

wow, i m surprised the professional kenyans then do not knw of such a fact
looking at back at various major events, they can be seen consuming water hmm.gif

so then again, oni the pros are nt too drink water, but its okies for us rite?
since we dun mind slacking..

QUOTE(strinq @ Oct 27 2009, 04:46 PM)
Erm, may I know where you got your source from euphoria?
I really want to know that.

In case you don't realise, it's a 42km run.
EVERY article i've read about marathons encourage the runners to drink whether ur a pro or not.
And in every race i see even the winners drink something.
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Yea, we will wait for her to revert...
I too am interested to see the source for such "great" advice..
but the again, she claims it is "common sense" so ...
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QUOTE(euphoria88 @ Oct 27 2009, 05:14 PM)
I'm a marathon runner and i know smile.gif heyyy we're talking about 5km and 7km run only =.=lll
42km of cuz need to drink water or else dehydrate.
you missed a point there. Some people participate marathon not to run. To walk or whatver they want. And my run is running non-stop. You can check k, which athelete drinks water in a 5km run smile.gif
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No offense, but go click and see what is in the spoiler
You said .. [marathon if running all the way it is advised nt to drink at all]
so either you do not knw the definition of a marathon or....

Aaah.. and i thought ppl participate to try running/ completing the entire distance before succumbing to walking to complete the distance..

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post Oct 27 2009, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(strinq @ Oct 27 2009, 05:29 PM)
Lol ok it seems that you got your words mixed up euphoria.

Marathons are 42km runs.

5-7km runs are not called marathons.
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NICELY pointed out...

QUOTE(euphoria88 @ Oct 27 2009, 05:31 PM)
Apa ni..  doh.gif  doh.gif
Is there any miscommunication somewhere?
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Erm, hv you found out the definition of a marathon..
If you have yet to do so, just go back a couple of pages..
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post Oct 27 2009, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(euphoria88 @ Oct 27 2009, 05:33 PM)
owh ok sorry mistaken. What do you call it anyway?
None taken. Cuz to me 5km is called a marathon cuz imma girl kay... hehe.
Nope. Been into runs, 5km-10km, alot ppl join to talk/laugh/joke. xtau buat ape. OMG.
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they are called typical runs biggrin.gif
yea, they talk, laugh, joke... socialize but who doesn't want to go there to complete the distance be it running or walking? tongue.gif

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