holy molly! the HnK match was epic!

epic laughs from the commentator as well ==

What is the different between Zangief 3p lariat and 3k lariat?

Also, do the 360 differs from lp to hp?

Similarly for the lk to hk?

Thanks.

I think 3k you only spin for a while, while 3p spin longer.

360 is more commonly known as spd = spinning pile driver. The difference of lp to hp version is range n damage. Where lp version has the longest range and the lowest damage of all 3 version and hp has the shortest range and highest damage. Never the less lp version is very scary as the range difference is quite significant, it's about the range of zangief's standing jab.

punch lariat spins longer and slightly higher damage than kick version.

haha let me try explaining.

PPP / KKK

PPP is a stronger wake up move for air atacks, but timed your lariat correctly then only lariat can be called imba.
kkk this is a trickier move because it has a shorter time and it hits Low then High. its better to punish those who like to Cr.HK sweep like Boxer, Akuma, guile etc.


how to time your lariat:
while crouching, and opponents jumps in with an attack, wait for him to reach your Gief's shoulder level ( while standing ) and press PPP. probably you will Trade, but hey its Zangief with 1200 stamina and the lower his Hp the stronger he can be Muahahahah.

Heres a move i never try before fighting with players, because i never met elf players got it from Ultra Davids threads.

--Unthrowable lariat
-----What: This is Gief's most useful application for the unthrowable special trick described above. The name describes this move pretty well; it just takes your lariat, which is normally 100% throwable, and makes its startup frames unthrowable. Unfortunately, it also makes your lariat lose to meaty attacks, since you have to press up before pressing lariat.
-----How: Press up and then ppp/kkk. You have to wait a split second between up and the buttons, sorta the same timing as with kara canceling. If you're doing this on your own wakeup, make sure you press up first, and make sure that the reversal message doesn't show up, because that means you inputted the ppp/kkk part of the motion too early.
-----Where: This is really only useful against Fuerte's run-grabs. Gief has more damaging ways to punish most command grabs, but Fuerte's recovers too quickly for those other ways to be viable.
(ultra David)


360 lp / Hp

refrain from using Hp SPD although it gives you more damage instead use lp SPD because it gives you more Range. thats the imbaness.
if you really want more damage, do the 360 HK instead because you end up right next to your opponent after it finishes.

This post has been edited by Zangief82: Sep 19 2009, 03:29 PM

IMMA SPAMMING HUGE PIKTAH
also happy holiday guise

can anyone do me a favor?

search for this guy "AFAFAW"
beat him off kao kao, and sent him this message "i rule, bxtch"

remember to taunt him whenever u free.

huh... he can beat u ar... ~~"
i m still not tat level yet.....

Here is the Zangief Flowchart. it proved to be useful for real zangief users.

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=202523

you can always block him if you dont like him lol

btw, UltraDavid was a dhalsim user before he went to gief, yes?

he KO me twice, and send me that message.

Sad, must be some punk kid that didnt go to school, KO you twice and he thinks he is better than you already..funny.

AFAFAW?

I think I fought him before. One of the people that join my room, play me a few times, and then quit.

Who'd he/she use?

and yes, by the way, i forgot to mention, he gave me an avoid review without any reason as well.
thats why he piXX me off!

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Added on September 20, 2009, 9:17 pmguile.
pls, say hello to him on my behalf.


This post has been edited by kitkat: Sep 20 2009, 09:17 PM

Dont get mad, just take it as an encouragement. It only shows that u have a better morality than him.
I dislike playing v turtles rather than those who like to taunt. Capcom designed those characters are meant for defensive and offensive types (u can know by reading the frame data), but not turtling ( pls la, at least do some actions to pretend mah )
So the best way i punish them is to beat them till the last drop of HP then start running away, this is a good way to train ur run away skills and to show them how irritating turtling is.

This post has been edited by keenkeen: Sep 20 2009, 11:22 PM

haha luckily havent buy, will buy it

nice match wif alvin juz now.... haaaaaa

Advise on countering Sagat.
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this is what?
kungfu score?

Well it's Raya and Forums usually have less people..so i decided to write a longer post about Gief.

This is how gief can surprise enemies.

Green hand wiff -->lp SPD
Green hand wiff -->Ex Green Hand
Green hand wiff -->lariat

Green hand wiff -->lp SPD
this is a good starting move, for soft characters, they tend to start the round by pressing backword. This gives you a free spd at the 3rd second of the game.
It also can be done continuously for 2 times to trick enemies because they think they can spam light jabs to cancel gief's spd.

Green hand wiff -->Ex Green Hand
Ok lets say your opponent suddenly goes berserk because his hp is less and you just can't spd him anymore, using this will punish him if he does the following -

FA, back dash, most normals upon wake up.

So opponents now also scared to do most things except for jump away, only if his timing is right if not here is where you should use your Green hand wiff -->lariat

But watch out for Ex Srk and Ex heatbutts, if their timing is right ( including SRK mashers ) his will punish you back just nice for Ryu's fadc ultra.
so use it to confuse enemies. not all the time.

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