haiz.
u make me feel sad lol. jk
i wanna keep pet bcauz.
quiet boring nth to play.
everyday do same thing on9 eat play game study.
so i wanna something diff.
that y wan adopt pet.
yes im ready.
i just need some information.
about it diet.

Stupidity at its best. Why not say this to every pet thread? Look at the feedback they'll give. If you are ready, you will not be here, complaining about your hectic life in the first place.

alot.
bcauz if i adopt now.
it grew bigger d.
so that time i can ask my mom to look for it.
my mom allow me to buy only my dad.
orh too hot .
erm i think need to get toyogo box 1st then i buy d hedgie.

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Added on November 29, 2009, 5:08 pmlol.
okay.
i will ask my dad 1st b4 buying it.
pray for me hope my dad allow me keeping it.

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Added on November 29, 2009, 5:14 pmbtw thanks for all information.telling how hard is to keep
hedgie.

This post has been edited by naruto_412: Nov 29 2009, 05:14 PM

Is it impossible to put some sense into yourself? At first the issue is about your dad disallowing you to keep it. Alright, you'll talk to him BEFORE buying a hedgie.

Secondly, you mentioned that you'll be busy after SPM with yadda yadda and wants your mom to care for it if you cant. Then you said when hedgie grew bigger, your mom can look after it. IS THERE ANY RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN GROWN HEDGIE AND LETTING YOUR MOM TO CARE FOR IT? I guess eventually you'll let your mom care for it instead of you yourself. Please remember your hedgie will still need love from you no matter how old he/she is.

You know yourself best. If you think you are mature enough to get one, then go ahead. All we can do is hope for the best for your hedgie. If you think animals' life is as worthy as humans, you will think thoroughly even after getting approval from your dad.

ohoh... kandycane angry d.....

Haha. Well, cant help myself when faced with someone like naruto. I admit i was once in his shoes, wanting to get a pet badly to fill in my boredom. Until I realised getting a pet requires so much more than what it is stated. But i'm not complaining. And i really salute you eric, having so many pets.

Eric :Ya I think so.lol
it is not bcauz of religious.
Kandy :He said keeping pet is alot hard work and waisting time .
He afraid I will waist my time and dindt study.
I just ask for u opinion don mad at me.. Haiz

who is nt angry lar...his dad disagree and his mom agrees...for sure, kena nag by his dad everyday, his mom will be like in middle man...supposed to be brought happiness, the pet brings fight and disaster...

Well I'd say your dad is not all wrong. Keeping a pet requires alot of hard work. Definitely. Time wasting? Yes, if you dont like your pet. But to me it'll be a no. Because there's always so much to learn from your pet. Your dad worries for some reasons. Mainly because of time. So the only way to convince him is prove to him that you can do well in studies even if you're keeping a pet. You can always try helping your friends to take care of their pet(s) first. You'll see yourself whether you can be a good pet owner from there.

Ya I think so.
Haiz hopefully my dad allow me to buy.

Erm..Once i also one of the impulsive buyer too. And because of my foolness, I ended their lives ealier than what they suppose to be.. But that's not hedgie la..is glider..

It's because i'm still student, so my time is not as tight as those who working.. And i work part times once a while..so i still can maintain all the pets lo.. But i reached my limits d... that's all i can keep now... 9 chiildren..

Naruto, nothing wrong to hav the impulsive feelings. But u hav to make sure ur midset is correct. If you feel eager, then u done all ur reading, make sure everything is ready then grab the pets.. I'm sure nobody wil blame u..

But if u do what as u planned to do, by hiding the hedgie secretly.. keep it in small cage.. use hamster wheel... jus because u wan the hedgie to help u to overcome ur lonely days.. Dont you think you are bit selfish? You concern bout ur loneliness day, what bout the hedgie's loneliness and bored day in small cage? What bout the animal's feeling?

Aiks...too much conflicts.. later what will happen is the hedgie will be out of the family lo..because the mom eventually will tolerate the father ma..

btw it is not small cage.
The cage quiet big .
hamster double storey cage.
y the wheel not suitable ?
The wheel quiet big?

okay...i make it straight........the wheel should at least 12 inches diameters...why???because hedgehog is NOT same size with hamster...they are BIGGER...like ur palm long...some even longer...if the wheel is small...how they could use it for run...might get them self injured........hamster cage also no way! even double storey or triple...is better if juz one storey but large enough for them...coz u need put hide box, the 12 inches wheel..toys and etc...why u insist using hamster cage??? even though, u got those 1 feet X 2 feet habitat, it's better for u to let them run freely at ur room once a while in a day..why? SIMPLE....coz they are like us too...imagine, i put u inside master room!!! never go out whole ur life...how it feels!! but ofcourse, u need to supervise it when u let it roam freely...u kenot bring them to travel...why??? do research about it!!! u kenot put two hedgies in 1 place even though ur reason is ur hedgie feels lonely and so on...why??? again, do research and reading!!!! a lot ppl given up their pet, so please i dun wan u r one of the list! if u feel that u will be, from now i said to you NO! dun keep pet if u feel u r not able to do so, im sure ur religion teaches u the same thing...please pleaseeeeeeee....i beg you to think..not simply think...but think..it is God creature...it has life...it deserves to live and has the best care and life as it has shorter life than we do..trust me, God will not like it if u keep the hedgie in small hamster cage, using unappropriated wheel........and like eric and me said....dun create fight between ur parents just because ur impulsive action in keeping pet...haih...lack of words oledi...hopefully, u get me

Lol my hamster wheel is 15cm .
Erm if need bigger room .
I think better I buy then put it at my home garden lol.
Alot room . Lol I just jk.
I will think 1st b4 buying.
Thanks for all information.
D seller sure will sad.
Bcauz I hav to cancel .
haizU

15 inches..means 12 X 2.5 cm...means about 30 cm large...wakakaka...dun see it wrongly..dun put at garden...u dunno wat may happen...cat everywhere!

Wah sai.
30cm arh.
Where got sell ?
So big .
Orh my graden free from cat .
only hav pond And tree.
lol. Any suggestion which toyogo box suitable for hedgie
and how much it will cost me?

Yes, is 30cm. So far only Wobust Wodent Wheel (rm170 over) and Silent Spinner (100over) available..

Wodent wheel u can get from petshack, as they are the only one who imported from overseas. Silent spinner a lot places are selling.

Free from cat? U sure? U dono one day mayb a cat crawl into ur house or wat... don take the risk..

Don really encourage people to keep hedgie outdoor, expose to too much noise and very stressful... And HOT!!!

I have seen one toyogo box @ ikea last time..very nice, solid and comes with wheel.. i think about 80-100 for the biggest one..which i think that is only toyogo box that suits for hedgie..

Nowadays all the toyogo box is deep but not big... hard to find big one though..

naruto,
A hedgehog is quite big. It's about a mini football size. You definitely need a much bigger box than your existing hamster cage. I had a 2 feet by 1 feet cage but , even that I found it to be too small. Instead, I have a 3 feet by 2 feet now. I do not think you can hide it under your bed...

Wow that alot work.

NONONO, eric u r wrong... (dun flame on me, no offend 1 hah... btw, sharon's bf here )

there is a word call secondhand in tis world, and DIY

i just bought 2 silent wheel at 27-11-2009, at price of rm50 each, but the price tag of the silent wheel still there, bout rm85.80 from petLover center Sunway...

Naruto, bout the cage, u can DIY la... my cage o DIY buy myself 1, go glass kilang, call them cut the glass, n take bec home, use non-toxic glue for glue aquarium 1, glue the glass in to cage lo... 3 of my cage oso DIY MYSELF...






BOUT THE wheel DIY, is a wheel call bucket wheel
last time got a super leng lui girl in tis thread got sell the DIY wheel, dunno any1 remember she o not, Cimredopyh
u can view the wheel at here ----> here
jus go hardware shop buy pipe n bucket, n a bearing and some screw, tat u hav to do, if u wan a pet, but dun wan use to much money

bout the breeding, wood breeding will contain mites...
better if use back2nature as state by eric,
cheaper way is use neaspaper, change everyday...

This post has been edited by weiwei89: Nov 29 2009, 09:52 PM