Is partial truth, true or false? If I tell a partial truth in court, what would they say about my statement? If found out, would they say I testified the partial truth? Or would they say I lied?

This post has been edited by Thinkingfox: Jul 4 2009, 07:59 PM

Thinkingfox,

You can ONLY lie when you KNOW the truth.

If you do not know the TRUTH, you CANNOT TELL THE TRUTH.

There is a BIG DIFFERENCE between

A) Lying.

B) Not telling the truth.

For example, if you are COLOR BLIND, everything is GRAY. You said that you see a GRAY DOG. But, the dog is actually a YELLOW DOG. So,

1) You are NOT TELLING THE TRUITH.

But,

2) You are NOT lying.

Most of US are NOT capable of knowing what we do not know. We are like color blind people trying to figure what the actual color of a gray dog is. We know that it is NOT gray as we see it when we know that we are color blind. But, we DO NOT KNOW what the real color is.

Dreamer

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Jul 4 2009, 09:50 PM

For me, reality is what we believe.
I believe in the creator.

"Energy can't be created or destroyed. It can only change forms."

But how can I choose not believe in it even after KNOWING that it's ACTUALLY there?

Nope, we live in illusion. What we see, what we hear, remember it is just a brain intepretation, but what lies in front of us could be a formation of number like movie matirx or some wave energy. It is brain intepretation that made us believe that we see a girafe, we see elephatant but is it all are intepretation of the brain.

Interestingly, even when we sleep n dream, we able to to see, smell or hear something even there are no STIMULUS!!! That can be an evident that it is our brain that intepret it. Because our brain intepret as such n we have live like that since we are young, we were indoctrined by the brain that is there is cause n effect. We believe that we eat apple, it tastes sweet, we believe we cant walk on water. We believe that if we have sex we would happy, all this are intepretation of brain.

But in reality, we have been fooled what the brain tells us. Because the reason is we have being trained to believe so. We have been train or being indoctrined since we are child that fire feels hot, ice feels cool. In other word, we have been attached to what we want to believe , to believe the the nature's rule or what that have been programmed inside our brain.

In order to free from this program, we need to train ourself not to relied on the program. But how would we free from this program when we depends on its too much? Its not suprisingly why religion do somehow forbid human from excessive pleasure or behavior that based on "nafsu". Because such pleasure or behaviour that based on "nafsu" made us relied more on the programe. In other hand, some human insteadd of chossing the moderate life of believer, they choose an extremism way in order hope to see the reality. They isolate themselves from people, fasting almost every day, n do lot of meditation, reason for hoping that he wont relied on this programe, instead he hopes that through his training, he will relied on others beside the programme that being implanted. In other word, the reality is once u freed from the programme, that is the real reality

not bad not nad...while what you say is very true here, its only true at the perception level like the way you say Perception is REALITY, I'm sorry to tell you that the rock will still fall to the ground due to gravity even if we don't exist and hence in such a case our perception don't exist as well and thus Perception is REALITY is false... my point is, perception does not equate reality as many ppl believe...its another perception that perception is equal to reality which is stupidly false...

reality does not change regardless what perception we have of our reality...

for the TS, reality is what reality is, it just is, reality does not equal physics,

physics comes from the attempt of human to model and represent reality using math and at this point in time advanced quantum physics is quite a mess...

This post has been edited by -҉-: Jul 5 2009, 07:43 PM

Believing at least gives us a hope. A world without believer would be darn boring and lifeless. Until we crack 99% of our brain function, we almost achieving the super intelligence level. Of course by then, we are work more on our brain rather than our body.

What you say, I do not doubt. I was using that example assuming that I give the partial truth on purpose, for the reason of shading the truth.

But reality is not only limited to what we know or what we can perceive, right? That would be a personal perception of reality. Reality stays the same whether or not we can perceive or understand it.

I agree with you that sometimes (or maybe always, I admit I do not know the frequency of validity. But I know it is valid) we are like color blind people trying to figure what the actual color of a gray dog is.

This post has been edited by Thinkingfox: Jul 5 2009, 10:20 PM

If everything is an interpretation of the brain, how did you come to interpret that life is an illusion instead of reality, and reality instead of illusion?

Isn't the word "illusion" simply another interpretation, which in fact not be an illusion, or simply the word "illusion" itself to describe your reality is ALSO an illusion?

Like I mentioned from my previous post, you know reality by JUSTIFYING it.

How can there be any meaning in the memory of such a being? What I have shown you is reality. What you remember, that is the illusion.
—Sephiroth

To me god is all in your mind its merely guidance for each religion.

ah another argumentum ad infinitum.

the perception of the reality is often flawed and dependent on many variables i.e education, culture. and when our perception changes, we believe the reality changes as well.

there is 2 reality. one that is happening and the other is what we think/fed/taught is happening.

Isn't all that your perception?

Hence Perception = Reality?

How can the thing that is not happening be reality?

This post has been edited by Thinkingfox: Jul 12 2009, 08:25 PM

That's only because such happenings are not subjected to your perceptions yet. If I tell you the Great Wall of China is the metres long and such, showing you the Wikipedia and all sources of information available around the world, will you ACTUALLY believe them...until you've actually measured the Great Wall by yourself?

This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Jul 12 2009, 10:38 PM

REALITY-U cant enlighten other ppl unless u r the enlighted 1
For me,reality is wat u believe dats y diff ppl define diff reality

quote in my siggy

it can. faith.

for one, religion.

but what they are merely displaying is living what they think is reality.

Reality is a common perception of certain things.

Commonly, we believe what we can see as real. What we touch is real.

But I have always thought, what if, the balls we see are spherical, but some alien species perceives it as squarish.

If you believe it is real, then is reality.

Some choose to believe after they see or experience it.
Some choose to believe it by faith.

Is all in your mind. Some keep on reassuring themselves is real... after a few times, is REALLY REAL to them afterward. The power of the mind.

Some choose to live in illusion. So called for betterment. Away fro problem temporary. Live in their own fantasy coz reality is too cruel. Is it a good thing?