Is Hokkien consider Low Class Language ?
|
|
 Jun 25 2009, 08:05 AM, updated 17y ago
Show posts by this member only | Post
#1
|
 
Junior Member
10 posts Joined: Feb 2007 
|
Having a breakfast with some company colleague , While i was talking to them in Hokkien , they answer me in Mandarin . Everytime i talk in Hokkien , they still answer in Mandarin .
Then i ask the girl , why dont want to speak Hokkien ? She said Hokkien is Low class , she scared people think them low class . thats why talking in Mandarin . |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 08:07 AM
Show posts by this member only | Post
#2
|
Junior Member
16 posts Joined: Jun 2009
|
anything that sounds crude is therefore low class. what about korean? and tamil? or even malay?
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 08:10 AM
Show posts by this member only | Post
#3
|
|
Junior Member
106 posts Joined: Jun 2008
|
My friends dont like when I am talking in hokkien too..They will stop me everytime i talk in hokkien..WTF
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 08:10 AM
Show posts by this member only | Post
#4
|
|
Junior Member
144 posts Joined: Sep 2005 
|
that's rubbish....
Added on June 25, 2009, 8:12 amif hokkien is low class..than what about others? some ppl just dun get it... This post has been edited by littlebug85: Jun 25 2009, 08:12 AM |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 08:15 AM
Show posts by this member only | Post
#5
|
Senior Member
1,269 posts Joined: Dec 2005 From: Sibu, KL
|
I think it is insulting, unless she is refering chinese as China? Thats because China gonna be no.1 instead of US anytime soon
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 08:16 AM
Show posts by this member only | Post
#6
|
Senior Member
2,675 posts Joined: Dec 2008
|
QUOTE(johnny66 @ Jun 25 2009, 08:05 AM) Having a breakfast with some company colleague , While i was talking to them in Hokkien , they answer me in Mandarin . Everytime i talk in Hokkien , they still answer in Mandarin . You have a very low class colleague, period.Then i ask the girl , why dont want to speak Hokkien ? She said Hokkien is Low class , she scared people think them low class . thats why talking in Mandarin .  Time to move on, fren. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 08:19 AM
Show posts by this member only | Post
#7
|
Junior Member
84 posts Joined: May 2008 From: up yo s 
|
QUOTE(convivencia @ Jun 25 2009, 08:16 AM) You have a very low class colleague, period. saia sokong.Time to move on, fren. a language is still a language. doesnt matter if sumone say that malay is low class language also. lose that low class minded colleague of yours.  |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 08:21 AM
Show posts by this member only | Post
#8
|
Senior Member
2,017 posts Joined: Jun 2007
|
u speak ancient Mayan language with them later. padan muka.
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 08:23 AM
Show posts by this member only | Post
#9
|
Newbie
0 posts Joined: Dec 2008
|
in Msia, 86% of the Chinese are Hokkiens. Side, i doesnt understand y they consider it low class? scared of ppl thinking them low class? that is damn loser.
And yea, i do brand ur frens as low level citizen as they have 3rd world mentality |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 08:26 AM
|
|
Junior Member
16 posts Joined: Jun 2009
|
OP what car does your colleague drives? is it high class car?
got wear watches? is it richard mille? |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 08:27 AM
|
Junior Member
468 posts Joined: May 2009
|
Taiwan isn't low class yo.
Your colleague must be cheong eveliday lar. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 08:31 AM
|
Senior Member
2,021 posts Joined: Dec 2006 From: Malaysia 
|
i liek 2 speak hokkien. coz is so cool to scold ppl in hokkien compared to other language
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 08:34 AM
|
Senior Member
6,240 posts Joined: Jul 2005
|
QUOTE(Ebenezar @ Jun 25 2009, 08:23 AM) in Msia, 86% of the Chinese are Hokkiens. Side, i doesnt understand y they consider it low class? scared of ppl thinking them low class? that is damn loser. Statistic or lies.And yea, i do brand ur frens as low level citizen as they have 3rd world mentality |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 08:43 AM
|
Senior Member
815 posts Joined: Oct 2007 From: Petaling Jaya
|
Hokkien low class? f*** no, we have the humorous dialect. Pop it in any situation and sure it change the mood.
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 08:44 AM
|
Senior Member
4,649 posts Joined: Aug 2008 From: Tāmaki Makaurau
|
ma mama speak hokkein yo dowg~
who say her low class will get a free falcon punch yo dawg~ |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 08:46 AM
|
|
Newbie
0 posts Joined: Dec 2008
|
QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jun 25 2009, 08:34 AM) Statistic or lies. there is no spoonfeed, go google urself |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:01 AM
|
 
Moderator
3,542 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Puchong, Selangor
|
You are the one really need to google...Hokkien no doubt is the largest group but not up to 86%:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysian_Chinese QUOTE Dialect Population Hokkien 1,848,211 Hakka 1,679,027 Cantonese 1,355,541 Teochew 974,573 Mandarin 958,467 Hainanese 380,781 Min Bei 373,337 Foochow 249,413 Nevertheless the Northern mandarin really killing off slowly our ancestor dialects..haizzz... QUOTE(Ebenezar @ Jun 25 2009, 08:46 AM) there is no spoonfeed, go google urself |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:04 AM
|
Senior Member
2,850 posts Joined: Aug 2006 From: Stellar Nursery
|
QUOTE(johnny66 @ Jun 25 2009, 08:05 AM) Having a breakfast with some company colleague , While i was talking to them in Hokkien , they answer me in Mandarin . Everytime i talk in Hokkien , they still answer in Mandarin . YOU ARE CORRECT SIR, Hokkien is only good for #@$% #@$# people when they piss you offThen i ask the girl , why dont want to speak Hokkien ? She said Hokkien is Low class , she scared people think them low class . thats why talking in Mandarin . |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:04 AM
|
Junior Member
259 posts Joined: Oct 2006
|
QUOTE(johnny66 @ Jun 25 2009, 08:05 AM) Having a breakfast with some company colleague , While i was talking to them in Hokkien , they answer me in Mandarin . Everytime i talk in Hokkien , they still answer in Mandarin . It's because they teach Mandarin in schools. Also I hear Hokkien is dying in Penang. Only the old folks speak hokkien nowadays. Maybe that's why.Then i ask the girl , why dont want to speak Hokkien ? She said Hokkien is Low class , she scared people think them low class . thats why talking in Mandarin . BTW Hokkien kinda sounds like Klingon. This post has been edited by TC_Boy: Jun 25 2009, 09:05 AM |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:07 AM
|
|
Moderator
3,542 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Puchong, Selangor
|
Same wth cantonese in KL...more & more leng mui & leng chai speak in mandarin....Nxt gen chinese in whole M'sia will be homogenius as Singapore very soon...
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:07 AM
|
Junior Member
241 posts Joined: Nov 2004
|
yamer...i heard all my pg fren communicate with each other using hokkien also..
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:14 AM
|
Senior Member
2,547 posts Joined: Oct 2007 
|
they cant find a way to feel more high class...so they blame the language
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:14 AM
|
|
Moderator
3,542 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Puchong, Selangor
|
Your fren...probably not school going or school leavers...but it's a trend in KL now that Leng Mui & leng Chai in shopping compelxes speaking mandarin instead of Cantonese
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:15 AM
|
Junior Member
294 posts Joined: Jan 2005 From: Cat CiteYy
|
narrow minded
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:18 AM
|
|
Senior Member
2,021 posts Joined: Dec 2006 From: Malaysia
|
QUOTE(HellJoker @ Jun 25 2009, 09:07 AM) yamer...i heard all my pg fren communicate with each other using hokkien also.. penang hokkien champions la..... mamak also speak hokkien |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:19 AM
|
Senior Member
6,583 posts Joined: Feb 2008
|
wtf?
this is the first time i heard ppl putting class on language. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:21 AM
|
Junior Member
4 posts Joined: Apr 2009
|
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:22 AM
|
Junior Member
330 posts Joined: Nov 2007
|
who say hokkien low class...
kanasai... the girl herself low class got la... then what hakka & foozhou...?? low class also...?? |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:22 AM
|
Senior Member
1,448 posts Joined: Sep 2005 From: Kay Elle 
|
Bah. Social class is so last century
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:27 AM
|
 
VIP
3,028 posts Joined: Feb 2005 From: 梅田,大阪 //Sabah
|
QUOTE(Ebenezar @ Jun 25 2009, 08:23 AM) in Msia, 86% of the Chinese are Hokkiens. Side, i doesnt understand y they consider it low class? scared of ppl thinking them low class? that is damn loser. Are you sure? And yea, i do brand ur frens as low level citizen as they have 3rd world mentality  |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:32 AM
|
Senior Member
3,651 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: Fort Canning Garden Status: Dog Fighting 
|
Ape yang nak kekecoh nie? Haram jadah betui. Siang siang dah macam nie.
Hokkien low class? Lu kar lu geh fren kong, Kui EE ki tui chu la. Erm mian chuk lai kua sa kai. Hokkien low class?! Walaueh, lim pek jin jia boh hua hi leh after knowing that. Lu men EE, apa language/dialect paling high class? Nia bula (Nebula) luan luan kong. Lu geh fren jin low class la. Ask her go back to the kitchen la. Kanasai! Pure Ipoh Peranakan, Joey~~~ p.s: Hokkien sibeh jia lat! This post has been edited by Joey Christensen: Jun 25 2009, 09:33 AM |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:33 AM
|
Senior Member
2,006 posts Joined: Sep 2007
|
QUOTE(TC_Boy @ Jun 25 2009, 09:04 AM) It's because they teach Mandarin in schools. Also I hear Hokkien is dying in Penang. Only the old folks speak hokkien nowadays. Maybe that's why. No, in penang we still speak hokkien in school with our teachers BTW Hokkien kinda sounds like Klingon.  .Hokkien is a must in Penang, because we have a lot of bananas there. even Malays and indian speak with you in Hokkien. speak mandarin in hawker center only causing your food price to be mark up. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:33 AM
|
Junior Member
79 posts Joined: Jun 2008
|
im hokkien. i will slap kau her if i see ur colleague.
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:33 AM
|
Junior Member
382 posts Joined: Dec 2005
|
so all SG is low class?
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:34 AM
|
Senior Member
807 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: ~ /k/iap /k/iap island ~
|
she wan whole penang ppl throw shoe at her d..
 |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:34 AM
|
Junior Member
133 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: A PLACE NEAR HEAVEN
|
I hate mandarin but had to learn it cos the whole company speaking in mandarin....
Why can't they speak cantonese or hokkien or english =.= |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:35 AM
|
Junior Member
256 posts Joined: Sep 2006 From: Britannia
|
people who speak mandarin only is low class. they don't even know their own native culture anymore. which makes them pathethic.
This post has been edited by nwk: Jun 25 2009, 09:38 AM |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:35 AM
|
|
Senior Member
2,675 posts Joined: Dec 2008
|
QUOTE(Polaris @ Jun 25 2009, 09:04 AM) YOU ARE CORRECT SIR, Hokkien is only good for #@$% #@$# people when they piss you off i'll shortform my answer: knlblcb |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:36 AM
|
|
Senior Member
3,651 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: Fort Canning Garden Status: Dog Fighting
|
QUOTE(Scopio @ Jun 25 2009, 09:34 AM) she wan whole penang ppl throw shoe at her d.. She also want whole Ipoh Hokkien people to throw mineral bottles at her too. Jin beh tahan! |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:37 AM
|
|
Senior Member
807 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: ~ /k/iap /k/iap island ~
|
QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Jun 25 2009, 09:36 AM) She also want whole Ipoh Hokkien people to throw mineral bottles at her too. Jin beh tahan! okay.. kita recruit go throw shoe, bottle or anything at her..  |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:37 AM
|
|
Senior Member
2,675 posts Joined: Dec 2008
|
QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Jun 25 2009, 09:27 AM) Are you sure? look at the Fujian province, Sir. Hokkien comprise of also Hokchiew, Lengah, and also part of Hakka |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:39 AM
|
Senior Member
2,834 posts Joined: Jul 2006 From: here
|
QUOTE(johnny66 @ Jun 25 2009, 09:05 AM) Having a breakfast with some company colleague , While i was talking to them in Hokkien , they answer me in Mandarin . Everytime i talk in Hokkien , they still answer in Mandarin . They have the rights to answer you any form of language that you comprehend. if you want them to reply you in hokkien, does this means they also should start a topic on "is Mandarin a low class language? My colleague doesn't like me reply him in mandarin". Then i ask the girl , why dont want to speak Hokkien ? She said Hokkien is Low class , she scared people think them low class . thats why talking in Mandarin . maybe NOT all of your colleague eating with you understand hokkien. so its better to speak in language where most of them understand. If you keep speaking in hokkien , and they reply you in mandarin... this could only mean its a sign you better switch back to a language where most ppl understand you, rather than your own syok-sendiri hokkien. Don't be so insensitive This post has been edited by alanyuppie: Jun 25 2009, 09:41 AM |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:39 AM
|
|
Senior Member
2,675 posts Joined: Dec 2008
|
QUOTE(TC_Boy @ Jun 25 2009, 09:04 AM) It's because they teach Mandarin in schools. Also I hear Hokkien is dying in Penang. Only the old folks speak hokkien nowadays. Maybe that's why. u stay in Taiping and you dare to say Hokkien sounds like Klingon, haha, nanti u kena Klingon punch baru tauBTW Hokkien kinda sounds like Klingon. btw, the day Hokkien dies in Penang is the day Penang kaput without the Hokkien Lang, Penang is nothing |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:39 AM
|
|
Junior Member
16 posts Joined: Jun 2009
|
those who worry about their status quo be lowered from the form of language they speak is because they do not have other things of better class to prove they are high class.
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:39 AM
|
Senior Member
1,692 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: Probation?
|
i think ur friend is trying to be high class, but end up looking more low class by looking down on ppl. Hokkien is the best dialect, period.
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:39 AM
|
|
Senior Member
3,651 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: Fort Canning Garden Status: Dog Fighting
|
QUOTE(Scopio @ Jun 25 2009, 09:37 AM) okay.. kita recruit go throw shoe, bottle or anything at her.. OKie set. wa lang jia gentle geh. Ipoh Hokkien lang prepare mineral bottle. Penang Hokkien lang prepare shoes/slippers.Wa lang gi whack/throw stuff at her. Unless she is a sui jar boh la. That one I handle la. Hehehe~~~ Different case mah. Tiuk boh tiuk? |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:41 AM
|
|
VIP
3,028 posts Joined: Feb 2005 From: 梅田,大阪 //Sabah
|
QUOTE(convivencia @ Jun 25 2009, 09:37 AM) look at the Fujian province, Sir. Hokkien comprise of also Hokchiew, Lengah, and also part of Hakka Well, i thought he meant language instead of the province where they were from... |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:42 AM
|
Junior Member
199 posts Joined: May 2009
|
F.Y.I hokkien is a dialect, not a language.
This post has been edited by ♥ianTEY♥: Jun 25 2009, 09:45 AM |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:43 AM
|
|
VIP
3,028 posts Joined: Feb 2005 From: 梅田,大阪 //Sabah
|
QUOTE(♥ianTEY♥ @ Jun 25 2009, 09:42 AM) F.Y.I hokkien is a dialogue, not a language. "Dialect" |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:43 AM
|
|
Senior Member
2,006 posts Joined: Sep 2007
|
QUOTE(convivencia @ Jun 25 2009, 09:39 AM) btw, the day Hokkien dies in Penang is the day Penang kaput +1 without the Hokkien Lang, Penang is nothing  |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:44 AM
|
|
Junior Member
199 posts Joined: May 2009
|
pai seh. my english very bad. suddenly forget how to spell dialect. Thanks for correcting me
 |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:45 AM
|
|
VIP
3,028 posts Joined: Feb 2005 From: 梅田,大阪 //Sabah
|
Well, normally, if people reply me in Mandarin or Hokkien, i reply them in Cantonese, because i only know speak that dialect...
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:46 AM
|
Senior Member
1,362 posts Joined: Nov 2005 From: k.terengganu.. alone.. with my bass...play.. alone
|
lol... dialogue... hahaha
btw..... izzit hokkien sounds harsh? compare to other This post has been edited by PVCpipe: Jun 25 2009, 09:47 AM |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:46 AM
|
Junior Member
14 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: Under the Bridge
|
hokkien have strong adjective when spoken...
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « eg :knn lu ki toh lok tau seng? lu eh ccb la, luan luan kong... niama, lu ka lu kong ko chi tau... they phailed their grammar so they dunno how to use it... like english, with improper grammar it's a broken language... they are afraid they will feel ashamed of themselves so they denied it... p/s : ah hui lu chiak par liao bui?  |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:48 AM
|
|
Senior Member
3,651 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: Fort Canning Garden Status: Dog Fighting
|
QUOTE(♥ianTEY♥ @ Jun 25 2009, 09:44 AM) pai seh. my english very bad. suddenly forget how to spell dialect. Thanks for correcting me Yu Ian? From Ipoh? Did yu play football with me last time? I went for Perak Under-18 team last time at Padang D.R Seenivasagam.Lu si Ipoh Hokkien lang? |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:49 AM
|
|
Senior Member
3,651 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: Fort Canning Garden Status: Dog Fighting
|
QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Jun 25 2009, 09:46 AM) lol... dialogue... hahaha yu tell me which is harsher? Lampa? or Frank Lampard?btw..... izzit hokkien sounds harsh? compare to other This post has been edited by Joey Christensen: Jun 25 2009, 09:49 AM |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:50 AM
|
|
Junior Member
4 posts Joined: Apr 2009
|
Lampa Berge
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:51 AM
|
|
Senior Member
1,362 posts Joined: Nov 2005 From: k.terengganu.. alone.. with my bass...play.. alone
|
QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Jun 25 2009, 09:49 AM) yu tell me which is harsher? Lampa? or Frank Lampard? i dunno joey, i dunt speak any chinese... err.. lampa and frank lampard  |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:52 AM
|
Junior Member
120 posts Joined: Jun 2009 From: Kuching
|
IMO
it is......no way as high class as french, cherokee or pig latin |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:53 AM
|
|
Senior Member
3,651 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: Fort Canning Garden Status: Dog Fighting
|
Aduiii...jin tau tiah. Nevermind la. If yu are a guy, yu got lampa. But yu are not Frank Lampard. Remember that.
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:55 AM
|
|
Junior Member
319 posts Joined: Nov 2005
|
Oh no ! Not this again.
Mandarin is just a northern dialect made the national language of china. Read china history forum for the relationship between chinese langaues. http://www.chinahistoryforum.com/index.php?showtopic=11752 close this thread. This post has been edited by pucman: Jun 25 2009, 09:55 AM |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:55 AM
|
|
Senior Member
3,651 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: Fort Canning Garden Status: Dog Fighting
|
QUOTE(Mark_Renton @ Jun 25 2009, 09:52 AM) IMO Walaueh...lu OO brain damage gah? Che le se kai boh high class dialect or low class dialect. it is......no way as high class as french, cherokee or pig latin Sumua pun si EQUAL geh. Lu beh hiao erm mai luan luan kong la. Gi tak kar che chek. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:56 AM
|
|
Junior Member
10 posts Joined: Feb 2007
|
My girl colleague's they like more Mandarin coz ... got alot of 'pusse pusse' pronouncation ... Hokkien sound more Manly for them ...
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:56 AM
|
|
Junior Member
120 posts Joined: Jun 2009 From: Kuching
|
sounds like regurgitating pig talking......
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:56 AM
|
Junior Member
700 posts Joined: Mar 2009
|
Hokkien is official language of Taiwan. Mandarin is secondary.
More foreigners are learning hokkien and mandarin. Who says hokkien is low class is probably those KL chinese pig. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:57 AM
|
|
Junior Member
24 posts Joined: Jun 2009
|
QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jun 25 2009, 09:39 AM) They have the rights to answer you any form of language that you comprehend. if you want them to reply you in hokkien, does this means they also should start a topic on "is Mandarin a low class language? My colleague doesn't like me reply him in mandarin". What he said...maybe NOT all of your colleague eating with you understand hokkien. so its better to speak in language where most of them understand. If you keep speaking in hokkien , and they reply you in mandarin... this could only mean its a sign you better switch back to a language where most ppl understand you, rather than your own syok-sendiri hokkien. Don't be so insensitive Normally it's those westernized ones who think they are too good to speak the dialects. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:58 AM
|
All Stars
17,053 posts Joined: Jan 2003
|
mai leh ji peng wu yiu xiu kia hahahahaha
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:58 AM
|
|
Junior Member
16 posts Joined: Jun 2009
|
!xobile is this low class? does it even qualifies to be a language?
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:59 AM
|
Senior Member
1,337 posts Joined: Feb 2009
|
QUOTE(johnny66 @ Jun 25 2009, 08:05 AM) Having a breakfast with some company colleague , While i was talking to them in Hokkien , they answer me in Mandarin . Everytime i talk in Hokkien , they still answer in Mandarin . Lu ka lu eh tong si kong:Then i ask the girl , why dont want to speak Hokkien ? She said Hokkien is Low class , she scared people think them low class . thats why talking in Mandarin . Siao lien eh, cho lang mai ahneh hau lien. Kong lai kong ki lu mah si jit jiak yeow siu kia. Tui choo kio lu eh lau peh hoh hoh eh ka lu ha mi si MANNERS. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:00 AM
|
|
Senior Member
815 posts Joined: Oct 2007 From: Petaling Jaya
|
QUOTE(Mark_Renton @ Jun 25 2009, 09:56 AM) sounds like regurgitating pig talking...... Ciak sai la. Wa ka la kong, lu kong ka wah eh wah pa si lu. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:00 AM
|
|
Senior Member
3,651 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: Fort Canning Garden Status: Dog Fighting
|
Aiya...TS just say lim pek ai kong Hokkien si lim pek geh si. Kuan lu hami su. KNNCCBLPPLGCS la!
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:00 AM
|
|
All Stars
17,053 posts Joined: Jan 2003
|
QUOTE(ahjames @ Jun 25 2009, 09:59 AM) Lu ka lu eh tong si kong: hahaha i agree dude Siao lien eh, cho lang mai ahneh hau lien. Kong lai kong ki lu mah si jit jiak yeow siu kia. Tui choo kio lu eh lau peh hoh hoh eh ka lu ha mi si MANNERS. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:01 AM
|
|
Junior Member
256 posts Joined: Sep 2006 From: Britannia
|
QUOTE(InitialB @ Jun 25 2009, 09:56 AM) Hokkien is official language of Taiwan. Mandarin is secondary. +9999999999999More foreigners are learning hokkien and mandarin. Who says hokkien is low class is probably those KL chinese pig. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:02 AM
|
|
Senior Member
815 posts Joined: Oct 2007 From: Petaling Jaya
|
ITT we speak nothing but hokkien to spite them
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:03 AM
|
|
All Stars
17,053 posts Joined: Jan 2003
|
in malaysia when they pui sok they also speak hokkien la no ppl pui sok that time speak cantonese or whatever crap 1
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:03 AM
|
|
Junior Member
14 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: Under the Bridge
|
haihz..
how many times must i said? you muz add in the ADJECTIVE !!! no wonder ppl start to see hokkien as low class dialect...  ah hui ah, ah hui...lu chiak pa liao bui? (broken hokkien) knn ah hui eh lcb, lu ai chiak mai chiak? mai chiak ki ho lang kan...(corrected hokkien) |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:03 AM
|
|
Junior Member
256 posts Joined: Sep 2006 From: Britannia
|
KL got lot of mandarin pigs. i heard when you put butter in them they taste like burger.
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:03 AM
|
|
Senior Member
1,337 posts Joined: Feb 2009
|
QUOTE(Polaris @ Jun 25 2009, 09:04 AM) YOU ARE CORRECT SIR, Hokkien is only good for #@$% #@$# people when they piss you off kong hokkien mian yong cho ueh lai meh lang eh.zha si kia. QUOTE(TC_Boy @ Jun 25 2009, 09:04 AM) BTW Hokkien kinda sounds like Klingon. ah ti, lu uu hami boon tue? zho lang mai ahneh hau lien. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:07 AM
|
|
Senior Member
1,448 posts Joined: Sep 2005 From: Kay Elle
|
okay. this thread sounds too foreign to me nao
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:08 AM
|
|
Senior Member
3,651 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: Fort Canning Garden Status: Dog Fighting
|
OKie la. wa lang gi set up jek leh association. Hokkien Lang Association! We throw shoes/slippers/mineral bottles, etc...to those that says Hokkien is low class.
Okie boh? wa lang ai stand united (not Manchester United la)... eh, If he/she don't have anyone to teach him/her manners at home, how arrr? wa lang jia understanding geh. Wa lang eh kar EE manners. Sui boh sui? Ah ni kuan set liao la! jin sui! WOHOO! |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:08 AM
|
|
VIP
3,028 posts Joined: Feb 2005 From: 梅田,大阪 //Sabah
|
Mandarin is younger than Cantonese
Why people refer Chinese as Mandarin instead of just refering it as "Mandarin"? After all, the term Chinese for me, is just a large group that comprises of Mandarin, Hakka, Cantonese, Hokkien, Wu, and a number of tribes that live in China... |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:10 AM
|
|
Junior Member
14 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: Under the Bridge
|
chinese eat mandarin orange during chinese new year...
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:11 AM
|
|
Senior Member
3,651 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: Fort Canning Garden Status: Dog Fighting
|
QUOTE(aznik_ool @ Jun 25 2009, 10:10 AM) chinese eat mandarin orange during chinese new year... walaueh! wa salute lu! LOL |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:11 AM
|
|
Senior Member
1,448 posts Joined: Sep 2005 From: Kay Elle
|
QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Jun 25 2009, 10:08 AM) OKie la. wa lang gi set up jek leh association. Hokkien Lang Association! We throw shoes/slippers/mineral bottles, etc...to those that says Hokkien is low class. I don't understand most of your content. But doesn't throwing misc items = uncivilized?Okie boh? wa lang ai stand united (not Manchester United la)... eh, If he/she don't have anyone to teach him/her manners at home, how arrr? wa lang jia understanding geh. Wa lang eh kar EE manners. Sui boh sui? Ah ni kuan set liao la! jin sui! WOHOO! |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:12 AM
|
|
Junior Member
120 posts Joined: Jun 2009 From: Kuching
|
QUOTE(TehWateva @ Jun 25 2009, 10:11 AM) I don't understand most of your content. But doesn't throwing misc items = uncivilized? bingo capitain |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:13 AM
|
Junior Member
34 posts Joined: Aug 2007 From: Lawrence of Arabia
|
agreed. TS, prolly your friends are a bit shallow in the language sector. Major develop countries like SG and Taiwan are Fukkien based.
Even Penang I would say quite a well established city is Fukkien based. I don't speak Fukkien, but I rude to reply in another language when your asking something sia. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:13 AM
|
|
Junior Member
319 posts Joined: Nov 2005
|
QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Jun 25 2009, 10:08 AM) Mandarin is younger than Cantonese China has a long history. All the chinese languages were the same language 5000 years ago but due to war, china broke up into many countries many times and that's how the languages split and develop differently.Why people refer Chinese as Mandarin instead of just refering it as "Mandarin"? After all, the term Chinese for me, is just a large group that comprises of Mandarin, Hakka, Cantonese, Hokkien, Wu, and a number of tribes that live in China... Mandarin is just the northern language influenced by the manchurian language. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:13 AM
|
|
Senior Member
3,651 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: Fort Canning Garden Status: Dog Fighting
|
Why so serious geh? Sometimes it's good to throw things...Anyway, lu ai chill out leh...beh sai ah ni serious geh. che leh si Kopitiam. Lu ji boh?
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:14 AM
|
|
All Stars
17,053 posts Joined: Jan 2003
|
QUOTE(aznik_ool @ Jun 25 2009, 10:03 AM) haihz.. lol need adjective how many times must i said? you muz add in the ADJECTIVE !!! no wonder ppl start to see hokkien as low class dialect... ah hui ah, ah hui...lu chiak pa liao bui? (broken hokkien) knn ah hui eh lcb, lu ai chiak mai chiak? mai chiak ki ho lang kan...(corrected hokkien) QUOTE(nwk @ Jun 25 2009, 10:03 AM) KL got lot of mandarin pigs. i heard when you put butter in them they taste like burger. kon hu kia is like that laQUOTE(ahjames @ Jun 25 2009, 10:03 AM) kong hokkien mian yong cho ueh lai meh lang eh. you hear before teochew scold ppl even more cho lor lolzha si kia. ah ti, lu uu hami boon tue? zho lang mai ahneh hau lien. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:14 AM
|
|
VIP
3,028 posts Joined: Feb 2005 From: 梅田,大阪 //Sabah
|
QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Jun 25 2009, 10:08 AM) OKie la. wa lang gi set up jek leh association. Hokkien Lang Association! We throw shoes/slippers/mineral bottles, etc...to those that says Hokkien is low class. If people wanted to ask them to change language which they could understand, that is fine and understandable...Okie boh? wa lang ai stand united (not Manchester United la)... eh, If he/she don't have anyone to teach him/her manners at home, how arrr? wa lang jia understanding geh. Wa lang eh kar EE manners. Sui boh sui? Ah ni kuan set liao la! jin sui! WOHOO! But if someone thinks a dialect is a low class one, sorry to say, that is so feudal |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:15 AM
|
|
VIP
3,028 posts Joined: Feb 2005 From: 梅田,大阪 //Sabah
|
QUOTE(pucman @ Jun 25 2009, 10:13 AM) China has a long history. All the chinese languages were the same language 5000 years ago but due to war, china broke up into many countries many times and that's how the languages split and develop differently. Unfortunately, some people who i met in Malaysia, told me that Mandarin is the "original" Mandarin is just the northern language influenced by the manchurian language. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:15 AM
|
Senior Member
8,275 posts Joined: May 2006
|
QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Jun 25 2009, 10:08 AM) OKie la. wa lang gi set up jek leh association. Hokkien Lang Association! We throw shoes/slippers/mineral bottles, etc...to those that says Hokkien is low class. i think you just cemented the low class pointOkie boh? wa lang ai stand united (not Manchester United la)... eh, If he/she don't have anyone to teach him/her manners at home, how arrr? wa lang jia understanding geh. Wa lang eh kar EE manners. Sui boh sui? Ah ni kuan set liao la! jin sui! WOHOO! |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:15 AM
|
|
Senior Member
1,029 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Petaling Jaya
|
Stopping people from talking a proper dialect is much more LOW CLASS.
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:16 AM
|
|
All Stars
17,053 posts Joined: Jan 2003
|
QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Jun 25 2009, 10:15 AM) Unfortunately, some people who i met in Malaysia, told me that Mandarin is the "original" They BTC ma mandarin is just a common language ....they call is GUO YU |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:18 AM
|
|
Junior Member
34 posts Joined: Aug 2007 From: Lawrence of Arabia
|
Aiyo no need to say about our hokkien, our cantonese also so rojak. its the same like hokkien la...All mix mix dy.
Go to HK and speak your cantonese there, people will go WTF? which kampung you come from. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:19 AM
|
Senior Member
687 posts Joined: Feb 2006
|
my roomates are from northen malaysia, and both speaks hokkien, lol i'm trying to learn from them, they teach me how to swear first, then only talk
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:19 AM
|
|
Senior Member
3,651 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: Fort Canning Garden Status: Dog Fighting
|
QUOTE(+3kk! @ Jun 25 2009, 10:15 AM) i think you just cemented the low class point aduiii, in Kopitiam also tiuk meh? Lu ah ni serious jor hami? Lu siung gu Kopitiam is Thread for seriousness meh? Lu jin jia si convoluted minded la. Let's enjoy wa lang geh kopi la di je leh Kopitiam. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:20 AM
|
|
VIP
3,028 posts Joined: Feb 2005 From: 梅田,大阪 //Sabah
|
QUOTE(KirklandLee @ Jun 25 2009, 10:18 AM) Aiyo no need to say about our hokkien, our cantonese also so rojak. its the same like hokkien la...All mix mix dy. "Pan nai" = Lek (Clever)Go to HK and speak your cantonese there, people will go WTF? which kampung you come from. "Ba sat" = Si Chap (Market) "Lui" = Chin (Money) "Sa mua" = Chin bou (All) Malaysian style, haha |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:22 AM
|
|
Senior Member
3,651 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: Fort Canning Garden Status: Dog Fighting
|
QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Jun 25 2009, 10:20 AM) "Pan nai" = Lek (Clever) Pan nai = Pandai?"Ba sat" = Si Chap (Market) "Lui" = Chin (Money) "Sa mua" = Chin bou (All) Malaysian style, haha Lui = Leng Lui? Sa mua = Semua? yam ban = jamban or tandas? Malaysian style! Oh YEa! |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:22 AM
|
|
Junior Member
34 posts Joined: Aug 2007 From: Lawrence of Arabia
|
Ya..I know about the pan nai part. If wanna learn the language at least speak it properly la....
Here also the mandarin also sometimes rojak la QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Jun 25 2009, 10:20 AM) "Pan nai" = Lek (Clever) "Ba sat" = Si Chap (Market) "Lui" = Chin (Money) "Sa mua" = Chin bou (All) Malaysian style, haha |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:23 AM
|
|
Junior Member
256 posts Joined: Sep 2006 From: Britannia
|
QUOTE(pucman @ Jun 25 2009, 10:13 AM) China has a long history. All the chinese languages were the same language 5000 years ago but due to war, china broke up into many countries many times and that's how the languages split and develop differently. manchurian is not chinese. so mandarin is not chinese. it just a language made by some northern barbarians.Mandarin is just the northern language influenced by the manchurian language. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:24 AM
|
|
VIP
3,028 posts Joined: Feb 2005 From: 梅田,大阪 //Sabah
|
QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Jun 25 2009, 10:22 AM) Pan nai = Pandai? Do not speak Malaysian version to HKLui = Leng Lui? Sa mua = Semua? yam ban = jamban or tandas? Malaysian style! Oh YEa! |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:25 AM
|
|
Senior Member
1,448 posts Joined: Sep 2005 From: Kay Elle
|
Bah. History is past. Who really bothers what is who. Language = Communication. thread close nao?
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:27 AM
|
|
Senior Member
1,448 posts Joined: Sep 2005 From: Kay Elle
|
QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Jun 25 2009, 10:24 AM) Do not speak Malaysian version to HK You'll be surprise how HK ppl use engrish.Alphabets pronounciations F = Efffu L = Allo Z = YeeZat Www = dabdabdab |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:28 AM
|
|
All Stars
17,053 posts Joined: Jan 2003
|
QUOTE(Spawny @ Jun 25 2009, 10:19 AM) my roomates are from northen malaysia, and both speaks hokkien, lol i'm trying to learn from them, they teach me how to swear first, then only talk lol really pai kia |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:28 AM
|
|
Junior Member
120 posts Joined: Jun 2009 From: Kuching
|
the coolest language is still the pygmy clucking language. the one like in god must be crazy
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:28 AM
|
|
VIP
3,028 posts Joined: Feb 2005 From: 梅田,大阪 //Sabah
|
QUOTE(TehWateva @ Jun 25 2009, 10:27 AM) You'll be surprise how HK ppl use engrish. Not only that, you should also see how HK people chat in online Alphabets pronounciations F = Efffu L = Allo Z = YeeZat Www = dabdabdab |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:30 AM
|
|
Junior Member
34 posts Joined: Aug 2007 From: Lawrence of Arabia
|
don't talk all so noble lah. It's just common sense to use mandarin as a national language in china because its widely used.
Manchurians are not chinese but they have an assimilation into the Hans thus making them a part of chinese history. Manchurians who know that they are Manchurians, but have virtually completely assimilated into Han culture and don't make an effort practice distinctive cultural practices to make a statement that they are Manchurians. Mandarin is just a widely used language hence its just common sense to make it into a national language in china. QUOTE(nwk @ Jun 25 2009, 10:23 AM) manchurian is not chinese. so mandarin is not chinese. it just a language made by some northern barbarians. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:36 AM
|
|
Senior Member
3,651 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: Fort Canning Garden Status: Dog Fighting
|
As for the record before this thread being closed, as some of yu may noticed, this the first time I posted much rubbish in a single thread. I take this opportunity to apologise if I have offended or disturbed your feelings in a way or two with my postings.
Regards, Joey p.s: I'm just having fun..."contributing" in this thread. Having a cup of coffee in a Kopitiam. Have a nice day everyone. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:39 AM
|
|
Junior Member
34 posts Joined: Aug 2007 From: Lawrence of Arabia
|
lulz
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:44 AM
|
|
Senior Member
8,275 posts Joined: May 2006
|
QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Jun 25 2009, 10:19 AM) aduiii, in Kopitiam also tiuk meh? Lu ah ni serious jor hami? Lu siung gu Kopitiam is Thread for seriousness meh? Lu jin jia si convoluted minded la. Let's enjoy wa lang geh kopi la di je leh Kopitiam. hi lower class, how is your hokkien today? |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:44 AM
|
Senior Member
4,234 posts Joined: Nov 2004
|
anyone here that claims they are pure hans should go and die in a fire for being an ignorant rofflecake.
Almost all Malaysian Chinese have manchurian blood in them. If not for the manchus, han would have extinct eons ago. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:45 AM
|
Junior Member
28 posts Joined: May 2007 From: USJ
|
When Hokkiens speaks, I dunno they are arguing or normal talk...feels no manners to me.. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:52 AM
|
|
Junior Member
28 posts Joined: May 2007 From: USJ
|
QUOTE(KirklandLee @ Jun 25 2009, 10:13 AM) agreed. TS, prolly your friends are a bit shallow in the language sector. Major develop countries like SG and Taiwan are Fukkien based. Wrong! SG is governed and manage by brilliant Hakka Lee Kuan Yew, Hokkien just came to share the sucess as usual..Even Penang I would say quite a well established city is Fukkien based. I don't speak Fukkien, but I rude to reply in another language when your asking something sia. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:58 AM
|
|
Junior Member
34 posts Joined: Aug 2007 From: Lawrence of Arabia
|
i govern but the majority is fukkien. Anyway, I'm hakka too. but I am saying as a collective not an individual.
 QUOTE(mirage2000 @ Jun 25 2009, 10:52 AM) Wrong! SG is governed and manage by brilliant Hakka Lee Kuan Yew, Hokkien just came to share the sucess as usual.. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 11:00 AM
|
|
Junior Member
259 posts Joined: Oct 2006
|
QUOTE(mirage2000 @ Jun 25 2009, 10:45 AM) When Hokkiens speaks, I dunno they are arguing or normal talk...feels no manners to me.. Seee like Klingon!. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 11:06 AM
|
|
Junior Member
256 posts Joined: Sep 2006 From: Britannia
|
QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Jun 25 2009, 10:44 AM) anyone here that claims they are pure hans should go and die in a fire for being an ignorant rofflecake. stupid manchu, you can go die first.Almost all Malaysian Chinese have manchurian blood in them. If not for the manchus, han would have extinct eons ago. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 11:09 AM
|
|
Junior Member
34 posts Joined: Aug 2007 From: Lawrence of Arabia
|
go pick up the chinese history book before you talk about others.
QUOTE(nwk @ Jun 25 2009, 11:06 AM) stupid manchu, you can go die first. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 11:16 AM
|
|
Senior Member
3,651 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: Fort Canning Garden Status: Dog Fighting
|
QUOTE(+3kk! @ Jun 25 2009, 10:44 AM) hi lower class, how is your hokkien today? Yu have a severe brain hemorrhage, don't yu? Nicely laid trapping,eh? Regards, Joey p.s: I suggest yu laid it elsewhere that serves a better purpose for your preposition. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 11:36 AM
|
|
Senior Member
8,275 posts Joined: May 2006
|
QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Jun 25 2009, 11:16 AM) Yu have a severe brain hemorrhage, don't yu? Nicely laid trapping,eh? insult given purpose furfilled.Regards, Joey p.s: I suggest yu laid it elsewhere that serves a better purpose for your preposition. suggestion not taken, mission accomplished |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 11:39 AM
|
Junior Member
456 posts Joined: Dec 2006
|
hang chee pekk.... low class u said? ... damn!
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 12:27 PM
|
|
Junior Member
319 posts Joined: Nov 2005
|
QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Jun 25 2009, 10:15 AM) Unfortunately, some people who i met in Malaysia, told me that Mandarin is the "original" Mandarin is the youngest language develop towards the Qing dynasty. (young kid)Cantonese and hakka are middle age. (middle age) Hokkien is the oldest chinese language. (old man) This post has been edited by pucman: Jun 25 2009, 12:28 PM |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 12:36 PM
|
Junior Member
221 posts Joined: Apr 2008
|
i want learn hokkien
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 12:37 PM
|
Junior Member
835 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: Land of Forgotten
|
QUOTE(johnny66 @ Jun 25 2009, 08:05 AM) Having a breakfast with some company colleague , While i was talking to them in Hokkien , they answer me in Mandarin . Everytime i talk in Hokkien , they still answer in Mandarin . Idiotic friends you have...that's dialect...and if a person doesn't knows or speaks in their own dialect..that's even more lowclass.Then i ask the girl , why dont want to speak Hokkien ? She said Hokkien is Low class , she scared people think them low class . thats why talking in Mandarin . |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 12:42 PM
|
Senior Member
1,542 posts Joined: Jul 2005 From: cheeseland
|
Hokkien = Tang dynasty language ... da best
hokkien speaker are much smarter... look at taiwan and singaypore and penang....  |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 12:44 PM
|
Junior Member
185 posts Joined: Jul 2008
|
lol,, if hokkien low class they said..
ask them,wat for u still follow those "taiwanese" style o fashion... |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 12:47 PM
|
Senior Member
9,027 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Ipoh
|
QUOTE(chezzball @ Jun 25 2009, 12:42 PM) Hokkien = Tang dynasty language ... da best Well, its about the person him/herself that matter the most lah..... hokkien speaker are much smarter... look at taiwan and singaypore and penang.... Mindset.... |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 12:48 PM
|
|
Senior Member
561 posts Joined: Feb 2009
|
I don't feel any shame with the Hokkien and others dialect. Somemore I was a Hakka roots with Teowchew mother tongue. I feel proud to say it loudly because i can speak 3 dialect Hokkien, Teowchew and Cantonese. But the only regret is I never have a chance to learn Hakka because of my family.
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 12:56 PM
|
|
Junior Member
835 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: Land of Forgotten
|
QUOTE(Pan84 @ Jun 25 2009, 12:48 PM) I don't feel any shame with the Hokkien and others dialect. Somemore I was a Hakka roots with Teowchew mother tongue. I feel proud to say it loudly because i can speak 3 dialect Hokkien, Teowchew and Cantonese. But the only regret is I never have a chance to learn Hakka because of my family. I'll give you +1000000000 for that.English good,dialects good,what about bahasa malaysiA?  This post has been edited by Omochao: Jun 25 2009, 12:57 PM |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 12:58 PM
|
|
Senior Member
561 posts Joined: Feb 2009
|
3+3 languages is long way to learn. Malay? How do think Kedah Chinese speak malay?
This post has been edited by Pan84: Jun 25 2009, 12:58 PM |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 12:58 PM
|
Senior Member
1,316 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: (GMT+08:00) Kuala Lumpur
|
Speak Sichuanese or Shanghainese to her, see if she's understand or not.
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 12:58 PM
|
|
Senior Member
1,542 posts Joined: Jul 2005 From: cheeseland
|
QUOTE(Pan84 @ Jun 25 2009, 12:48 PM) I don't feel any shame with the Hokkien and others dialect. Somemore I was a Hakka roots with Teowchew mother tongue. I feel proud to say it loudly because i can speak 3 dialect Hokkien, Teowchew and Cantonese. But the only regret is I never have a chance to learn Hakka because of my family. LOL.. u make me feel proud too ! i speak hakka/cantonese/hokkien/mandarin =P teochew sometime we can comprehend.. but the hainan... can die lulz.. dun un at all |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 01:02 PM
|
|
Junior Member
34 posts Joined: Aug 2007 From: Lawrence of Arabia
|
I like Sichuanese sounds very melodic
QUOTE(APIITian @ Jun 25 2009, 12:58 PM) Speak Sichuanese or Shanghainese to her, see if she's understand or not. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 01:02 PM
|
Senior Member
605 posts Joined: Jun 2005 From: Beyond and Above
|
language also got low and high class wan ahh?
wah lao... u speak any language... if all also carut marut then wat's the difference?? |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 01:05 PM
|
|
Junior Member
28 posts Joined: May 2007 From: USJ
|
QUOTE(chezzball @ Jun 25 2009, 12:42 PM) Hokkien = Tang dynasty language ... da best No lah...it's the hakkas who established a base of opportunity first, not to mention KL...Kapitan Yap...hokkien just follow us here only.. hokkien speaker are much smarter... look at taiwan and singaypore and penang.... |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 01:05 PM
|
|
Senior Member
561 posts Joined: Feb 2009
|
Look. This world only will have class on 2 things only. Is your dressing and your mind. Language is your representative identity. Only idiot would think language have classes.
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 01:07 PM
|
Senior Member
4,670 posts Joined: Dec 2004
|
The low-caste and high-caste Indians speak the same language. Tell your friend to take a stab at a rolling doughnut.
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 01:10 PM
|
|
Senior Member
1,542 posts Joined: Jul 2005 From: cheeseland
|
QUOTE(mirage2000 @ Jun 25 2009, 01:05 PM) No lah...it's the hakkas who established a base of opportunity first, not to mention KL...Kapitan Yap...hokkien just follow us here only.. cool.. me iz hakka too ~ yap ah loi FTW |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 01:10 PM
|
|
Senior Member
4,649 posts Joined: Aug 2008 From: Tāmaki Makaurau
|
 |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 01:22 PM
|
|
Junior Member
28 posts Joined: May 2007 From: USJ
|
QUOTE(chezzball @ Jun 25 2009, 01:10 PM) cool.. me iz hakka too ~ yap ah loi FTW Read more about Hakka history, we are not just another dialect group... |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 01:23 PM
|
|
Senior Member
561 posts Joined: Feb 2009
|
Aiya. What so shame about? We must proud. We are better than kiasuland people. They are not only can't speak malay properly even can't write in chinese. Banana chinese in kiasuland. hahaha.
This post has been edited by Pan84: Jun 25 2009, 01:24 PM |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 01:23 PM
|
Junior Member
79 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: 词穷
|
Hakka was second after Hokkien...
I thought Cantonese.. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 02:15 PM
|
Senior Member
1,023 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: In between Heaven & Earth
|
Let me tell u which is more "original"...either hokkien or english?
Let's take the famous book which is Stephen Covey famous 7 habits for successful people.In fact,in hokkien language is already "Exist" long time b4 Stephen Covery write tat kinda book! Dun believe? read below: Habit No 1: Be Pro-Active Kin Chiew Kin Ka (fast hand, fast leg) Habit No 2: Begin with the End In Mind Ooh Tao Ooh Buay (have head, have tail) Habit No 3: First Things First Chik Poh Chik Poh Lai,Ban Ban Lai (One thing at a time, slow and steady); or Cho Tow Seng (do first) Habit No 4: Think Win-Win Long Chong Ai Yarh (want to win in everything) Habit No 5: Seek To Understand Rather Than To Be Understood Cho Lang Ai Eh Beng Pek (you must be understanding) Habit No 6: Synergize Tai Kay Ai Hup Chop (all must co-perate) Habit No 7: Sharpen the Saw Toh Bua Lai Lai (Sharpen your knife) Conclusion....Stephen Covey's famous 7 habits for successful people are nothing more than a free adaptation of Hokkien phrases. So why pay thousands of dollars to listen to chao ang-mors like him when your parents, wife, husbands, and even the auntie-auntie and ah-mah also can give you that kind of advice every day? This post has been edited by b3rnard7: Jun 25 2009, 02:17 PM |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 03:46 PM
|
Junior Member
42 posts Joined: May 2009
|
No such thing as hokkien low class, mandarin high class la... then english where is its standing ?
zzzzzzzz its the foundation or the way how ppl are brought up... maybe most of gangsters speak hokkien doesnt mean that the rest are low class la... i myself can speak teochew, hokkien, mandarin (not really good, but still learn to speak) All my colleagues speak mandarin coz they are mandarin educated and i can just say those... easy words in mandarin but i still learn to use it and speak more often with them so, there's no high/low class between languages !! |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 03:46 PM
|
Junior Member
172 posts Joined: Jun 2006 From: Singapore
|
lim pek ai kong hamik si limpek eh tai ci... lu ka lu eh tang si kong... mang anneh hao lian..... limpek peh tan cit eh kio chintongfa piet kau yi
 |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 03:47 PM
|
|
Junior Member
42 posts Joined: May 2009
|
QUOTE(Omochao @ Jun 25 2009, 12:37 PM) Idiotic friends you have...that's dialect...and if a person doesn't knows or speaks in their own dialect..that's even more lowclass. haha ! i second that ! |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 03:48 PM
|
|
Junior Member
42 posts Joined: May 2009
|
QUOTE(adrianck @ Jun 25 2009, 03:46 PM) lim pek ai kong hamik si limpek eh tai ci... lu ka lu eh tang si kong... mang anneh hao lian..... limpek peh tan cit eh kio chintongfa piet kau yi dont be so rude la lolx ! |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 03:54 PM
|
Senior Member
2,227 posts Joined: Mar 2006 From: cheras
|
QUOTE(Pan84 @ Jun 25 2009, 01:23 PM) Aiya. What so shame about? We must proud. We are better than kiasuland people. They are not only can't speak malay properly even can't write in chinese. Banana chinese in kiasuland. hahaha. because their english x10000 better than urs.btw, to those who keep talking bout banana or whatever fruit, learn ur own dialect first. remember in the olden days( meaning like wayyyyy back) few people spoke mandarin. so u wan talk bout culture and shit, talk bout ur own dialect first, shitheads and after you're done with that, you'll probably think you're an ******* for expecting other people to know mandarin. This post has been edited by arsenwagon: Jun 25 2009, 03:57 PM |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 03:59 PM
|
Junior Member
121 posts Joined: Jun 2009
|
hokkien is hugh class la
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 04:04 PM
|
|
Junior Member
172 posts Joined: Jun 2006 From: Singapore
|
QUOTE(kylenks @ Jun 25 2009, 03:48 PM) dont be so rude la lolx ! yo kyle.. u oso here arrr? |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 04:19 PM
|
|
Junior Member
42 posts Joined: May 2009
|
QUOTE(adrianck @ Jun 25 2009, 04:04 PM) yo kyle.. u oso here arrr? hahaha yeah ! saw ur post ma... so i decided to join in and support ! xD |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 04:36 PM
|
Junior Member
236 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: Heilongjiang Province, China
|
our parents taught us not to fight among ourself. we all are chinese & should not talk bad about other dialect... kaaneenaa... chaocheebuay....
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 04:41 PM
|
Junior Member
293 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: 10101010111
|
Highest class Chinese dialect will be Cantonese followed by Mandarin and Hokkiens
Same goes to Chinese intellectual IQ ranking based on states. HK-->Singapore-->Taiwan The Taiwanese Hokkien are different from Malaysian Hokkien |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 05:34 PM
|
|
Senior Member
561 posts Joined: Feb 2009
|
QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jun 25 2009, 03:54 PM) because their english x10000 better than urs. Fuyoh. You sounds like a PhD professor. Btw. Forum is a place for all people to release their opinions. You and me don't have the rights to correcting people. Each of us have our own thinking. Sometimes when we feel we right, its doesn't mean other people will accept what are you trying to deliver and follow the way you thinking. btw, to those who keep talking bout banana or whatever fruit, learn ur own dialect first. remember in the olden days( meaning like wayyyyy back) few people spoke mandarin. so u wan talk bout culture and shit, talk bout ur own dialect first, shitheads and after you're done with that, you'll probably think you're an ******* for expecting other people to know mandarin. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 06:22 PM
|
Senior Member
1,350 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: HEAVEN & HELL
|
LOL!
i dun hokkien is lower class slang for chinese people but just abit rude... |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 06:24 PM
|
|
Senior Member
2,675 posts Joined: Dec 2008
|
QUOTE(mirage2000 @ Jun 25 2009, 10:45 AM) When Hokkiens speaks, I dunno they are arguing or normal talk...feels no manners to me.. sorry, u rongit's the heng hua ppl that talk like quarrel hokkien ppl very sooo boon one |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 06:26 PM
|
|
Senior Member
2,675 posts Joined: Dec 2008
|
QUOTE(cameltoe @ Jun 25 2009, 04:41 PM) Highest class Chinese dialect will be Cantonese followed by Mandarin and Hokkiens oh, "highest class Chinese dialect" got "dew nia mah", "ham kah chan", "pokai"that's "highest class", right? This post has been edited by convivencia: Jun 25 2009, 06:34 PM |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 06:32 PM
|
Senior Member
2,841 posts Joined: Jun 2009
|
hokkien is low class? LMAO, read this and next time u will think tiwce before speaking other chinese languages...
Ancient Imperial Language of China – 2,000 Years Ago How Did it Sound Like? (Mind you, it's no way similar to Mandarin) Has this Ancient Language Survived? Who Speaks it Today? You'll be Surprised.. You have heard it. You, your parents, or grandparents may still be speaking this ancient, archaic language! Yes, it's HOKKIEN (Fujian/Minnan Hua) Hokkien is: 1. The surviving language of the Tang Dynasty (618-907AD), China 's Golden Age of Culture. Note: The Hokkien we hear today may have "evolved" from its original form 2,000 years ago, but it still retains the main elements of the Tang Dynasty Language. 2. Hokkiens are the surviving descendants of the Tang Dynasty -- When the Tang Dynasty collapsed, the people of the Tang Dynasty fled South and sought refuge in the Hokkien ( Fujian ) province. Hence, Hokkien called themselves Tng-lang (Tang Ren or People of the Tang Dynasty) instead of Hua Lang (Hua Ren). 3. Hokkien has 8 tones instead of Mandarin's 4. Linguists claim that ancient languages tend to have more complex tones. 4. Hokkien retains the ancient Chinese pronunciation of "K-sounding" endings (for instance, Hak Seng (student), Tua Ok (university), Thak Chek (read a book/study) -- the "k" sounding ending is not found in Mandarin. 5. The collection of the famous "Three Hundred Tang Dynasty Poems" sound better when recited in Hokkien/Teochew if compared to Mandarin. 6. Consider this for a moment: Today, the Hokkien Nam Yim ochestral performance still has its roots in ancient Tang dynasty music. Here's the proof: The formation of today Nam Yim ensemble is typically seen in ancient Tang dynasty paintings of musicians. More Astonishingly: Although not genetically-related, Hokkiens, Koreans and Japanese share many similar words (which are different from Mandarin). That's because Hokkien was the official language of the powerful Tang Dynasty whose influence and language spread to Japan and Korea (just like Latin – where many words were borrowed by the English, French, Italian, etc). Here are just a few words in Hokkien, Japanese & Korean for your comparison: Hokkien Korean Japanese Sin Boon (news) Sin Mun Shinbun - newspaper Cheng Hu (government) Chong Bu Pang (room) Pang Chhia (car/vehicle) Ch'a Mui/M'ng (door) Mun P'hio (ticket) P'yo Eng Wan (eternal) Yong Won Chaek (book) Ch'ae Ki (flag) Ki Ki Kang river) Gang/kang Poh Hiam (insurance) Poh Ham Sio Sim (caution) Cho sim Mo Kui (demon) Ma gui Cham (attend/join/mix) Ch'am sok Kantan (simple) Gan Dan Sin Sei Kai (new world) Shin Sae Gae Kok Ka (nation) Kuk Kka Hya (elder brother) Hyaeng Choon Pi (prepare) Jun Bi Si Kan (time) Si Kan Kam tong (emotion, feeling) Kam Jong Kanjoo Kamsia (gratitude, thanks) Kam Sa Kansha Keat Hoon (marriage) Kyol Hon Kekkon Oon Tong (exercise) Un Dong Undoo Tua Ok (university) Tae Hak Daigaku Aun Chuan (safety) An Jon An Zen Mua Chiok(satisfaction) Man Jok Manzoku Ai Lang (lover) Ae In Aijin Seng Kong (success) Song Kong Seikoo Chhiu Sat (suicide) Cha sal Jisatsu Pu Do (grapes) P'o d'o Budoo Chin Por (progress) Chin bo Shinpo To all 49 Million Hokkien Speakers: Be Proud of Your Ancient Hokkien Heritage & Language! Speak it Loud and Clear. Teach Your Future Generation this Imperial Language, Less it Fades Away. Be Proud Children of the Tang Emperors. To all Mandarin-speaking friends out there -- do not look down on your other Chinese friends who do not speak Mandarin – whom you guys fondly refer to as "Bananas". In fact, they are speaking a language which is much more ancient & linguistically complicated than Mandarin. Keep in mind that Mandarin is just: 1. A Northern Chinese dialect (heavily influenced by non Han Chinese) that was elevated to the status of National Language by Sun Yat Sen for the sake of China 's national unity. 2. Mandarin was never spoken by your proud, imperial Tang Dynasty ancestors. It was probably spoken by the Northern (Non-Han) Jurchen, Mongols and Manchu minority. Start speaking the language of your ancestors today. |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 06:38 PM
|
Senior Member
3,626 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: Hornbill land
|
hokkien is a funny language and friendly. But mandarin still the most polite language and preferable for me. KL last time mostly speak cantonese and sarawak ppl barely can understand. So i hope more mandarin at KL in the future
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 06:39 PM
|
|
Junior Member
293 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: 10101010111
|
QUOTE(convivencia @ Jun 25 2009, 06:26 PM) oh, "highest class Chinese dialect" got "dew nia mah", "ham kah chan", "pokai" Hokkien and the other dialects got no foul words?that's "highest class", right? Cantonese is the most used dialect in the international business scene. Even Li Ka Shing the richest Chinese in Asia who is Teo Chew speaks Cantonese. The other important Chinese dialect is Mandarin. Guangzhou Province in China combined with HK-Shenzen is China's main economic powerhouse region has Cantonese widely spoken there. Hokkien cannot be compared to these 2 main dialects. Added on June 25, 2009, 6:44 pmGuangdong is also China's most prosperous region with the highest GDP among all other provinces in China for 2008. This post has been edited by cameltoe: Jun 25 2009, 06:44 PM |
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 07:32 PM
|
|
Senior Member
8,275 posts Joined: May 2006
|
QUOTE(cameltoe @ Jun 25 2009, 06:39 PM) Hokkien and the other dialects got no foul words? a lot of people dont know that hokkien can be considered a poor mans language, the people from hokkien themselves dont really speak hokkien (fu jou, the capital of hokkien have got their own dialact). it was only during the migration period that the hokkien kin from certain parts of that province ran around the world brining that language along with them, they settled in places like taiwan and malaysia. the hokkien province howeveer have got tons of local lingo that im sure teh most adapt of people in malaysia would suffer there, its very different.Cantonese is the most used dialect in the international business scene. Even Li Ka Shing the richest Chinese in Asia who is Teo Chew speaks Cantonese. The other important Chinese dialect is Mandarin. Guangzhou Province in China combined with HK-Shenzen is China's main economic powerhouse region has Cantonese widely spoken there. Hokkien cannot be compared to these 2 main dialects. Added on June 25, 2009, 6:44 pmGuangdong is also China's most prosperous region with the highest GDP among all other provinces in China for 2008. the problem with this that amit all the arguments of heritage and what not ,the mainlanders can spot you out if you are not hokkien. they say its in the looks, they claim that a lot of malaysians are mixed and rarely you get one that can be defined with pure hokkien features. a lot of mainland chinese can spot at a glance that im not from china, not even to mention the hokkien province. they dismiss our soo called heritage because most of it has already been malaysianised and really after mixing with soo many mainlanders i do have to agree with them. also a lot of people here dont know that the hokkien kin is a very notorious bunch of people, the people from hokkien province is barred from entry to US and japan. |
|
|
Jun 26 2009, 05:23 AM
|
|
Junior Member
154 posts Joined: May 2008
|
QUOTE(InitialB @ Jun 25 2009, 09:56 AM) Hokkien is official language of Taiwan. Mandarin is secondary. I think it's Johor ler. There got alot of 'Hokkien banana' - cannot speak Hokkien only mandarin!More foreigners are learning hokkien and mandarin. Who says hokkien is low class is probably those KL chinese pig. |
|
|
Jun 26 2009, 08:26 AM
|
|
Senior Member
2,675 posts Joined: Dec 2008
|
QUOTE(+3kk! @ Jun 25 2009, 07:32 PM) a lot of people dont know that hokkien can be considered a poor mans language, the people from hokkien themselves dont really speak hokkien (fu jou, the capital of hokkien have got their own dialact). if you know what you are talking about, finebut in this case, you are talking shit !!!!!!!!! absolute stinking shit !!!!!!!! if Hokkien is a poor man's language, why Lim Goh Tong used Hokkien until the day he died? Was Uncle Lim poor? goddamn bastard ! This post has been edited by convivencia: Jun 26 2009, 08:26 AM |
|
|
Jun 26 2009, 08:29 AM
|
|
Junior Member
199 posts Joined: May 2009
|
QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Jun 25 2009, 09:48 AM) Yu Ian? From Ipoh? Did yu play football with me last time? I went for Perak Under-18 team last time at Padang D.R Seenivasagam. im from ipoh but i dont play football. Lu si Ipoh Hokkien lang?  |
|
|
Jun 26 2009, 08:32 AM
|
Senior Member
1,648 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: PJ, Malaysia
|
Just because Wah Lai Toi plays Cantonese shows doesn't mean Hokkien is low class...
on a side note, I know alotta rich 'uncles' who converse in Hokkien |
|
|
Jun 26 2009, 11:29 AM
|
|
Senior Member
2,675 posts Joined: Dec 2008
|
QUOTE(Gurdian @ Jun 26 2009, 08:32 AM) Just because Wah Lai Toi plays Cantonese shows doesn't mean Hokkien is low class... one thing for sure... only low class people will say others are low classon a side note, I know alotta rich 'uncles' who converse in Hokkien if they think that their cantonese are so high class; if they think that their cantonese are so hot; if they think that the world businessmen have to learn cantonese in order to make deals, let them think becoz they can't do shit with their cantonese anywhere, anyhow, anyway even the richest guy in hong kong isn't a cantonese, and they think they are "highest class" ? This post has been edited by convivencia: Jun 26 2009, 11:30 AM |
|
|
Jun 26 2009, 11:40 AM
|
Senior Member
1,562 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Sg.Buloh
|
support Hua Hi Dai! ~
 |
|
|
Jun 26 2009, 12:01 PM
|
|
Junior Member
319 posts Joined: Nov 2005
|
QUOTE(+3kk! @ Jun 25 2009, 07:32 PM) a lot of people dont know that hokkien can be considered a poor mans language, the people from hokkien themselves dont really speak hokkien (fu jou, the capital of hokkien have got their own dialact). it was only during the migration period that the hokkien kin from certain parts of that province ran around the world brining that language along with them, they settled in places like taiwan and malaysia. the hokkien province howeveer have got tons of local lingo that im sure teh most adapt of people in malaysia would suffer there, its very different. When i went to fujian province, none of them said I am not china born. In fact, I was fairer than most of them. the problem with this that amit all the arguments of heritage and what not ,the mainlanders can spot you out if you are not hokkien. they say its in the looks, they claim that a lot of malaysians are mixed and rarely you get one that can be defined with pure hokkien features. a lot of mainland chinese can spot at a glance that im not from china, not even to mention the hokkien province. they dismiss our soo called heritage because most of it has already been malaysianised and really after mixing with soo many mainlanders i do have to agree with them. also a lot of people here dont know that the hokkien kin is a very notorious bunch of people, the people from hokkien province is barred from entry to US and japan. Fujian province has many dialects/languages. The so-called hokkien in msia is called Minnan and Minnan has many branches such as Ciang ciu, chuan ciu, teo chiu. Penang hokkien belong to ciang ciu while Malacca/Johor hokkien belong to chuan ciu. Teo chiu is hokkien in case most people don't know. This post has been edited by pucman: Jun 26 2009, 12:02 PM |
|
|
Jun 26 2009, 12:07 PM
|
|
Junior Member
17 posts Joined: Mar 2005
|
Low class my As$, i'm proud to be hockianese. damn... they are insulting their encestors. KNNCCB.
|
|
|
Jun 26 2009, 12:13 PM
|
Junior Member
93 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: across s.e.a
|
WTffff since when hokkien low class, lotsa rich hokkien ppl around. No such thing as low class language, we live in the modern world.
Can ask them go 'long pia' QUOTE(AiRBooM @ Jun 26 2009, 11:40 AM) support Hua Hi Dai! ~ Damn nice Hua Hi Dai.  |
|
|
Jun 26 2009, 12:30 PM
|
|
Senior Member
8,275 posts Joined: May 2006
|
QUOTE(convivencia @ Jun 26 2009, 08:26 AM) if you know what you are talking about, fine there are hokkien people that are popular and successful in the world no doubt, not to mention that its one of the richer provinces in china, however all my china friends tell me that fujian is a very notorious area. certain places like fujou are cool and all but the people from fujian province is blacklisted in a number of countries. all my chinese friends regardless where i meet them say that the same thing.but in this case, you are talking shit !!!!!!!!! absolute stinking shit !!!!!!!! if Hokkien is a poor man's language, why Lim Goh Tong used Hokkien until the day he died? Was Uncle Lim poor? goddamn bastard ! i was too suprissed at this argument by them, considering i do come from a hokkien background however when two different chinese mainlanders tells me the same story in totally different places i do have to take into account of their words. also i did a random google on fujian for u and this came up a brief mention about fujian http://us.altermedia.info/illegal-drugs-in...-rings_460.html another article about the fujian people and migration to the us, rich but dodgy practicecs http://www.slate.com/id/2188450/entry/2188451/ Fujian and the snakeheads http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/topic,4565c2...e6ad4024,0.html also note that fujian people are barred from america, canada and japan. be proud of your heritage sure, but also know that fujian aint one wonderful place either. just find one mainlander and ask about fujian and see what they say. i started it teh same way wanting to know my roots what i got in return was shocking, heck they dont even consider malaysian chinese as chinese anymore!  as i said i can be considered a poor mans language when one knows the reputation of the fujian province |
|
|
Jun 26 2009, 12:35 PM
|
|
VIP
3,028 posts Joined: Feb 2005 From: 梅田,大阪 //Sabah
|
In KL, most people know Cantonese + Mandarin
Klang is different case though |
|
|
Jun 26 2009, 12:36 PM
|
|
Senior Member
1,692 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: Probation?
|
QUOTE(cameltoe @ Jun 25 2009, 08:39 PM) Hokkien and the other dialects got no foul words? The reason Cantonese was used so much in the region was because up to 1997 Hong Kong was a British Colony. Being a financial hub made it so that if you wanted some leverage in the country you needed to know the language. Do some research and thinking before using mere facts to justify your post.Cantonese is the most used dialect in the international business scene. Even Li Ka Shing the richest Chinese in Asia who is Teo Chew speaks Cantonese. The other important Chinese dialect is Mandarin. Guangzhou Province in China combined with HK-Shenzen is China's main economic powerhouse region has Cantonese widely spoken there. Hokkien cannot be compared to these 2 main dialects. Added on June 25, 2009, 6:44 pmGuangdong is also China's most prosperous region with the highest GDP among all other provinces in China for 2008. |
|
|
Jun 26 2009, 12:36 PM
|
Senior Member
519 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: Fairyland in Reality
|
Hokkien is a dialect , just like others, cantonese hakka teochew, there is no ranking for language, how can you rank it as a low class language just because you scared people say your are low class?
Whole northern area of malaysia is low class? All the chinese in china that speaks hokkien is low class? Whole taiwan is low class? Who singapore is low class? Come on la ppl, grow up! The only reason that you rank hokkien is a low class language is because you are a low class fella ! |
|
|
Jun 26 2009, 12:40 PM
|
|
VIP
3,028 posts Joined: Feb 2005 From: 梅田,大阪 //Sabah
|
QUOTE(spacelion @ Jun 26 2009, 12:36 PM) The reason Cantonese was used so much in the region was because up to 1997 Hong Kong was a British Colony. Being a financial hub made it so that if you wanted some leverage in the country you needed to know the language. Do some research and thinking before using mere facts to justify your post. Add to another point...- Most overseas Chinese are from Guangdong province, in overseas, the most familiar Chinese cuisine style is Cantonese |
|
|
Jun 26 2009, 12:43 PM
|
|
Senior Member
2,675 posts Joined: Dec 2008
|
QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Jun 26 2009, 12:40 PM) Add to another point... not anymore- Most overseas Chinese are from Guangdong province, in overseas, the most familiar Chinese cuisine style is Cantonese while chinatown is still crawling with cantonese, they are no longer the "most" in number the zhejiang people (including shanghai) are the top, follow by the Fujian, then only Guandong. but most of these people are professionals, they don't congregate in chinatown, so you do not see them. This post has been edited by convivencia: Jun 26 2009, 12:44 PM |
|
|
Jun 26 2009, 03:54 PM
|
Junior Member
68 posts Joined: Apr 2008 From: CTU
|
In the early years during the migration of Chinese to other parts of the world, most of the immigrants were from Guandong. Hence, the Chinatowns were mainly Cantonese speaking Chinese. And also the Hongkies added up to the numbers of oversea Chinese before 97, the return of Hong Kong to China.
|
|
|
Jun 26 2009, 06:41 PM
|
Junior Member
58 posts Joined: Mar 2009
|
the answer is NO
|
|
|
Jun 26 2009, 06:57 PM
|
Senior Member
1,553 posts Joined: Oct 2008
|
KNNCCB LOL ! I dont think hokkien is low class, but is very useful to tease bananas that dont understand a single shit.
|
|
|
Jun 26 2009, 07:03 PM
|
Senior Member
3,317 posts Joined: Jun 2008 From: Cheras ~ London WC1E 7HU~ Shenzhen
|
beyond low
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
|
|
Jun 26 2009, 07:22 PM
|
|
Junior Member
14 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: Under the Bridge
|
2" dunno hokkien....
|
|
|
Jun 26 2009, 08:25 PM
|
|
Junior Member
154 posts Joined: May 2008
|
QUOTE(xMika @ Jun 26 2009, 06:57 PM) KNNCCB LOL ! I dont think hokkien is low class, but is very useful to tease bananas that dont understand a single shit. Err actually there alot of mandarin educated people who think hokkien is low class while mandarin is superior. I would think alot of english ed just think hokkien as a dialect.Worst, it seems that the Hokkien rejection come from Hokkiens themselves. wah lau way..... |
|
|
Jun 26 2009, 10:15 PM
|
 
Trade Dispute
3,379 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: KL 
|
well this kind of topic will never end in discussion.... well its like calling a beggar, and telling him u are a beggar, he will slap u or maybe shout at u for calling him so but will nvr admit... so this kind of topic will nvr end...
|
|
|
Jun 26 2009, 10:18 PM
|
Senior Member
789 posts Joined: Oct 2006
|
kong hokkien hua low class meh? an neh kuan wa mai kong liao.
|
|
|
Jun 26 2009, 10:22 PM
|
|
Senior Member
6,240 posts Joined: Jul 2005
|
lol I find this funny. Hokkiens feeling it.
|
|
|
Jun 26 2009, 10:24 PM
|
Junior Member
496 posts Joined: Mar 2007
|
QUOTE(PenangLaksa @ Jun 26 2009, 10:18 PM) kong hokkien hua low class meh? an neh kuan wa mai kong liao. lol..... i dun think its low class its juz abit chaw loh.however, the taiwan hokkien sounds a bit better. |
|
|
Sep 25 2009, 09:41 PM
|
Senior Member
1,202 posts Joined: Nov 2006 From: Kuching->Cyberjaya->KL->Kuching
|
QUOTE(nwk @ Jun 25 2009, 10:23 AM) manchurian is not chinese. so mandarin is not chinese. it just a language made by some northern barbarians. Manchurian is under chinese la....Manchurian is same category with Hans.... Hans and Manchurian are under Chinese.... |
|
|
Sep 25 2009, 10:45 PM
|
|
Junior Member
289 posts Joined: Jun 2008
|
Hokkien = low class??
What kind of mentality is this? And tell her that quite many rich businessman speaks hokkien!!! |
|
|
Sep 25 2009, 10:47 PM
|
|
Senior Member
6,240 posts Joined: Jul 2005
|
HALLO!
This is June Thread, what the hell is wrong with you guise? |
|
|
Sep 25 2009, 10:56 PM
|
All Stars
15,182 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Damansara Heights
|
QUOTE(johnny66 @ Jun 25 2009, 08:05 AM) Having a breakfast with some company colleague , While i was talking to them in Hokkien , they answer me in Mandarin . Everytime i talk in Hokkien , they still answer in Mandarin . She is low class, stop hanging out with her.Then i ask the girl , why dont want to speak Hokkien ? She said Hokkien is Low class , she scared people think them low class . thats why talking in Mandarin . |
|
|
Oct 6 2009, 09:47 PM
|
|
Junior Member
100 posts Joined: Dec 2006
|
QUOTE(zeist @ Sep 25 2009, 10:56 PM) She is low class, stop hanging out with her. can't resist to dig up this topic, i've experienced the situation first handmy KL classmates were literally SHOCKED when they heard our professors spoke to each other in hokkien, for them hokkien is for those uneducated ignorant KLites This post has been edited by rivendell: Oct 6 2009, 09:49 PM |
|
|
Oct 6 2009, 10:32 PM
|
|
Senior Member
1,337 posts Joined: Feb 2009
|
indon lagi high
|
|
|
Oct 6 2009, 10:37 PM
|
Senior Member
2,702 posts Joined: Dec 2004 From: P8X-86A
|
kong hamik lanjiau wa.
This post has been edited by nightzstar: Oct 6 2009, 10:38 PM |
|
|
Oct 6 2009, 10:48 PM
|
Junior Member
154 posts Joined: Aug 2008
|
I got some chinese friend stays in penang which can't speak hokkien ...
|
|
|
Oct 6 2009, 11:10 PM
|
Junior Member
422 posts Joined: Apr 2007 From: Somewhere. Isolated from the rest of you pukes.
|
Mandarin is what the commies chinks are using up north. If you converse in Mandarin, YOU ARE A COMMIE.
Where's the Kempeitai when you need one? This post has been edited by Parrot: Oct 6 2009, 11:10 PM |
|
|
Oct 6 2009, 11:24 PM
|
|
Junior Member
14 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: Under the Bridge
|
kangaroo patahkan shinguard ah mar~~~*shaking head*
|
|
|
Oct 6 2009, 11:43 PM
|
Junior Member
158 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Kenya Wakanda
|
TS.. You do not Malu-kan your own language! Defend your root against your A-hole colleague.
 Really Kong HAMILANCIAU!  |
|
|
Oct 7 2009, 05:47 AM
|
Junior Member
171 posts Joined: Nov 2008
|
QUOTE(johnny66 @ Jun 25 2009, 08:05 AM) Having a breakfast with some company colleague , While i was talking to them in Hokkien , they answer me in Mandarin . Everytime i talk in Hokkien , they still answer in Mandarin . If nobody speaks it anymore, then our next generation wouldn't know how to speak Hokkien, which is very pathetic. I find it really handy to know many languages and dialects in overseas. Then i ask the girl , why dont want to speak Hokkien ? She said Hokkien is Low class , she scared people think them low class . thats why talking in Mandarin . I've had people coming up to me and say Hokkien sounds very rough. I think it's because many people learnt to know many foul words in Hokkien which then makes them perceive Hokkien as a low class language. |
|
|
Oct 7 2009, 07:12 AM
|
Senior Member
1,162 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: museum of kopitiam
|
tats is call
忘本. |
|
|
Oct 7 2009, 08:02 AM
|
Junior Member
226 posts Joined: Apr 2008
|
actually, hokkien is not a bad dialect.
just that when they speak hokkien in malaysia, they keep on KNNCCB, LCLY, dunno what all the bad words come out. that's why many ppl feel hokkien low class. if we speak hokkien like the taiwan drama. I dun think it is bad lo. please dun flame me. |
|
|
Oct 7 2009, 08:09 AM
|
Junior Member
45 posts Joined: Jul 2007
|
Firstly I'm not hokkien, but i wanna say.. anyone who calls their dialect low class should go hang themselves... how can you be embarrass with your own generations dialect?
If you are, then you have to be ashamed of yourselves, your parents, your grandparents and your forefathers.... So better of go and die... |
|
|
Oct 7 2009, 08:11 AM
|
Junior Member
99 posts Joined: Jul 2008 From: Came from the future Joined : November 2020
|
jimmy choo speaks hokkien.
|
|
|
Oct 7 2009, 08:29 AM
|
|
Senior Member
2,675 posts Joined: Dec 2008
|
How come you guys keep digging all those oldies and re-fry them?
|
|
|
Dec 25 2011, 05:49 PM
|
|
Junior Member
154 posts Joined: May 2008
|
QUOTE(johnny66 @ Jun 25 2009, 08:05 AM) Having a breakfast with some company colleague , While i was talking to them in Hokkien , they answer me in Mandarin . Everytime i talk in Hokkien , they still answer in Mandarin . I hear you man. This trend is very hard to reverse.Then i ask the girl , why dont want to speak Hokkien ? She said Hokkien is Low class , she scared people think them low class . thats why talking in Mandarin . |
|
|
Dec 25 2011, 05:51 PM
|
|
All Stars
15,182 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Damansara Heights
|
QUOTE(johnny66 @ Jun 25 2009, 08:05 AM) Having a breakfast with some company colleague , While i was talking to them in Hokkien , they answer me in Mandarin . Everytime i talk in Hokkien , they still answer in Mandarin . If I see her, I'd tell her to hisap.Then i ask the girl , why dont want to speak Hokkien ? She said Hokkien is Low class , she scared people think them low class . thats why talking in Mandarin . |
|
|
Dec 25 2011, 05:54 PM
|
Senior Member
3,864 posts Joined: Dec 2009
|
Only bodoh and lansi people say hokkien low class . My mum is a Hokkien Chinese , I can speak a bit and fully understand the language , I wish I were fluent in it .
|
|
|
Dec 25 2011, 06:04 PM
|
|
Junior Member
154 posts Joined: May 2008
|
The solution is actually simply: make hokkien cool using pop culture. And more people will start speaking it. This is how Cantonese survives strong despite the mandarin onslaught.
Most hokkien tv shows and songs sound very 'obiang' and kampung compared to mandain and Cantonese ones. If this can be changed then I believe this low class perception will be eliminated. |
|
|
Dec 25 2011, 07:13 PM
|
|
Senior Member
726 posts Joined: Oct 2004 From: Cyberjaya
|
My colleagues, both Hokkiens, speaks cantonese to each other. When their mum calls, they whispered in hokkien.
|
|
|
Dec 25 2011, 07:55 PM
|
Junior Member
156 posts Joined: Dec 2004 From: Tyria
|
QUOTE(convivencia @ Jun 25 2009, 08:16 AM) You have a very low class colleague, period. Time to move on, fren. QUOTE(visigoth90 @ Oct 7 2009, 08:09 AM) Firstly I'm not hokkien, but i wanna say.. anyone who calls their dialect low class should go hang themselves... how can you be embarrass with your own generations dialect? Waffak??!! Simi tai ji??!! Siao Liao ar??If you are, then you have to be ashamed of yourselves, your parents, your grandparents and your forefathers.... So better of go and die... Even imma is not Hokkien also speak Hokkien daily. Language got differentiate class ?? Call ur colleague speak England yo. Where they Carl Ch'ng hurt for speaking Hokkien??!! |
|
|
Dec 25 2011, 08:10 PM
|
Senior Member
725 posts Joined: Apr 2008 From: Kuala Lumpur
|
nah....not the language, its the people
|
|
|
Dec 25 2011, 08:17 PM
|
 
Elite
2,036 posts Joined: Feb 2007 From: KL
|
god damn, who's the fella that replied to a two-year old question here?
|
|
|
Jan 6 2012, 05:48 PM
|
Junior Member
217 posts Joined: Jun 2011
|
|
|
|
Jan 6 2012, 05:49 PM
|
|
Senior Member
807 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: ~ /k/iap /k/iap island ~
|
nia leh.. tiang kiu lu bump old thread
|
|
|
Jan 6 2012, 05:54 PM
|
|
Senior Member
1,362 posts Joined: Nov 2005 From: k.terengganu.. alone.. with my bass...play.. alone
|
coz mandarin sounds more nicer n smooth like korean
|
|
|
Jan 6 2012, 06:12 PM
|
Senior Member
4,296 posts Joined: Dec 2009 From: Malaysia
|
hokkien high class man...
easy to understand language... |
|
|
Jan 6 2012, 06:21 PM
|
Senior Member
737 posts Joined: Jul 2010 From: Klang
|
hokkien dialect is not really low class lar just that most of them feel that speaking hokkien in certain area u would be laughed at.......
like KL area most peoples are speaking cantonese, but if u come to PJ area most of them speaking hakka or cantonese or hokkien, when u come to Klang most of them speaking hokkien dialect i am a teochew but i speak hokkien on daily basic, i could understand abit of cantonese as well hakka too mandarin also....... whoever that think a dialect is a low class, they themselves is low class indeed Mandarin is a spoken n written language for most chinese lar no matter where you go u speak mandarin most of them can understand de |
|
|
Jan 6 2012, 10:01 PM
|
|
Junior Member
58 posts Joined: Sep 2010
|
Hokkien ppl most friendly, matured, down to earth chinese and already at the top of civilisation before. So the desire to succeed in materialistic world is not so much anymore.
|
|
|
Jan 6 2012, 10:10 PM
|
All Stars
10,783 posts Joined: Jan 2003
|
lim beh is 2nd most common word after hello..
|
|
|
Jan 6 2012, 10:20 PM
|
Junior Member
127 posts Joined: Aug 2010 From: Melbourne
|
Why is your friend so dumb? TS
|
|
|
Jan 7 2012, 09:04 AM
|
Junior Member
131 posts Joined: Mar 2010 From: Bima Sakti
|
QUOTE(johnny66 @ Jun 25 2009, 08:05 AM) Having a breakfast with some company colleague , While i was talking to them in Hokkien , they answer me in Mandarin . Everytime i talk in Hokkien , they still answer in Mandarin . well she is already low standard the moment she scared what ppl thinkThen i ask the girl , why dont want to speak Hokkien ? She said Hokkien is Low class , she scared people think them low class . thats why talking in Mandarin . |
| Bump Topic Add ReplyOptions New Topic |
| Change to: |  0.0652sec
 0.53
 5 queries
 GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 16th December 2025 - 12:49 AM |
Quote