What normally they are looking for? Patin, Tilapia or Catfish?

mostly restorant will serve Tilapia, Baung, Patin higher end yo ucan find Grass carp, Jelawat, Tapah, lagi high end you can find river - patin, kelah, tengalan, bujuk, sebarau but these are mostly located at small town like lipis, raub, grik, bidor.

yup.. true...
and one small pieces of patin sungai can cost u rm 70 a piece...
while kelah.. more expsensive la...

Tilapia best cook with what? Steam?

Hmmm, look like many entrepreneurs already into this business especially breeding Keli and Tilapia for foods. I was wondering how you survive in this business. Not competitive meh?


Is possible to breed the Patin in manmade fish pond?

bro,
I also wanna visit ur farm.. can PM me the location?... my bf wants to venture into this agri business also wor..

I'm not in fish farming, but love makan fish oni, and yes its possible to keep patin in pond but it will be too fatty, normally they try to up the quality by keeping them in floating cage at sungai.

I've PMed Paraoptical and he say he would drop by this topic when he's free. Apparently he's busy these days.

thanks bro for the headsup ...

well Ikan Keli is you are starting small then i suggest you can go with this species or tilapia as it is much easier to rear compare to the other species. their ROI is shorter and easier management

other species are like those mentioned :- Sultan, Jelawat, Kelah, Marble Goby but these species are more delicate and if you dont have much $$$ then not recommended.

For EG, Marble goby are very delicate animal and sensitive. Something wrong with their environment then they will eat themselves and die off just like that.

Woo ParaOptical Welcome.. I've visited ur posts b4..May i ask wht r u breeding now ??

bro.. what u mean need money to breed kelah?
is it really hard?

So the best solution for Patin is keeps them at the river using the cage technique?



Hello ParaOptical,

Mind to share your technique? Which technique you go into? Cage, tank or pond?

of coz you need more money, the fingerling is 100X more expensive than tilapia and the growing stage is so slow, plus you cant over stock the pond leh. River fish growth rate when juvi time is extra long like forever.

And river fish like Kelah, to be edible the fish must be minimum 1kg, actually I find 1 kg also a bit too small, prefer to choose those around 1.5kg, coz river fish bone anatomy the "Y" bone is like killer, those smaller than 1kg you spend most of your time removing this bone instead of eating the fish.

It is not the best solution, it is just another solution to enhance the quality/taste of the fish.

In America, there are several seafood restaurant chains (franchises). The fillet they use is catfish fillet.

They used to use cod, but cod is getting too expensive.

Cod does taste better, compare to catfish (I have tasted both), but most people won't know the different as long as you put enough MSG into the seasoning.

there are many type of catfish, keli, tapah, baung, patin all are under catfish and they taste quite different among them. Replacing cod to catfish seem quite impossible without customer detecting them.

My role is as a customer, not as a fish expert.

I must admit that I don't know what type of catfish they are using (all I know is there is a catfish farming industry in Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas and Florida), but the catfish fillet is very thick (unlike what we have here).

I'm saying this as a customer also, I'm not a fish farmer and fish just happen to be one of my fav dish, tapah comes in big thick slices too, but seldom can find in KL. Smaller town and sarawak has plenty of tapah to offer.

now am doing with tilapia, patin, baung

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Kelah fingerlings is very much more expensive than tilapia or keli. cause their fingerlings are rare and good breeders very rare...thus supply & demand

Kelah need good practices and management of the place to grow out well

normally those 1.0kg and below not much restaurant want. cause they know if their customers come to order sure for 4 ppl and above and 1.0kg fish aint enough


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River patin are known to fetch a good price.

i am currently doing in tanks and pond

in tanks you can control most of the factors whereas ponds you need to 'kautim' with mother nature...haha

Is it because of enough water flow?



About your tank method, have you encountered the electric cut off for few hours? If yes, what happen to your fish?

Yes continous water flow is the best, fish dun have mud smell
and good exercise for the fish, making the flesh texture better.

Bro Para how much the patin n baung costs if u buy it in fries.,
How long it takes for u to harvest ??
Where's ur farm anyway ??
Wanna do a gathering ?? hehe..