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> Waiting for Solution(will close on 1st July), mr_sekcee aka c.c.chong (UNRESPONSIBLE)

Aresz.com
post Jun 28 2009, 07:33 PM

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As of the "personal warranty" will be end today, I will do close this thread as my promises. But all at last that I can do is that asking you guys out there can help me to get this mobo 'fix'. By right, whether to send it to RMA or even replace that capasitors. So, last but not least is that I need some advices, which is the better solution as this case is no longer worthy of waiting that guy to help me resolve it.

I aware that I have done a mistake in trading that mobo, and I take it as my lesson of life to do not easily trust mans words. Yes, indeed I lost in this 'war', totally lost, but still I won't quit. I will do what ever it takes to atleast get something worthy in my previous deal with this guy. Sorry if I had take this way, whining and insulting, blaming.. does not solve this case. I will go easy now. I am open to hear any advices. Thanks in advance. Do let me open this thread for three days more, atleast until I got useful advices from u guys on what I need to perform now. I am clueless. This is my first ever experience on dealing some faulty craps. That's why I took it emotionally.

To all of you, which by mean to help and following this case, I lay my apologizes and thanks for all your comments and feedback. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to lay out my dispute and to hear my case. Thanks all.

I will now clearly all the blaming thought, whether yes or not this guy is guilty, u guys judge for yourself. As for me, I will keep him in my trading blacklist list for future use. I will never forget on what he done to me, and will never ever want to see his face in my whole life. I believe God knows better. No hard feelings, no personal revenge and what so ever.. Yes, I accept my lost. maybe I am unlucky.

By the way, I will close this thread by Wednesday, 1st July 2009, for all due respect of advices. This will be 'scar' in my life. And hopefully u guys will not experience this type of cases in future. If or not this thread helps to prevent repeated cases in future, let us atleast aware that there are some guys that not doing trading in the right way as they promise to do so. And they will come out with any kinds of tactics and ways plus lame reasons as they have prepared for to cheat people. (please do not put the guy I am dealing with in this. This is only my personal advices)

Yes I have read some of the actions that might help me to solve the mobo problem, I will do as necessary. But if in this 3 days, I could get some others advices, I will absolutely be pleasured. Thanks once again... smile.gif

And for you mister..please do not come in this thread in this 3 days, as I know you are not helpful and responsible. Go do your business.


This post has been edited by Aresz.com: Jun 28 2009, 07:38 PM
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post Jun 28 2009, 07:53 PM

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Intel mobo got LED to indicate power, if not my fault...

So does the LED light up when you turn on the power?
If not, i think even you solder back the capacitor the mobo obviously may not work.

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post Jun 28 2009, 10:16 PM

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close this thread? omg, then he can repeat same mistake again and again.

pm admin/mod do not delete this thread, lock it only and let other ppl know how bad he deals.

bro, please put his h/p and bank account(if u hv) in ur first post, so that if next time ppl google for it, they will notice bout this thread and find out bout his attitude/bad way of trading.
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post Jun 29 2009, 02:30 AM

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How come you guys cannot send the motherboard to RMA but need someone else to do it? Cmon, it's faulty, no one want it. C.C.Chong you have even asked me to solder back the caps for you, I know how to, but I won't wet my hands for this. Physical warranty or not, you have to pay half of the responsibility as the deal involved both parties. Why can't you go find RMA places to send it instaed of asking for "SIFU" here? You can talk loud for sure, but why can't you go through hardware section and find the RMA locations? For god sake, I'm not sliding anyone here. It is definately a black mark for everyone here. Don't think that changing your forum name will help you in other deals, people will remember you always.

If you want to continue your business here, change your hp, your account number, your details and everything. But in the end, you just showed us that you admitted you are wrong because of you changed everything to avoid the accusations.

I'm out from here. What kind of people also got. shakehead.gif shakehead.gif


Added on June 29, 2009, 2:32 amOh by the way, what comes around goes around. shakehead.gif

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post Jun 29 2009, 05:01 AM

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QUOTE(JoLee @ Jun 28 2009, 06:28 PM)
Please be careful with your words as Mr Choong could sue you for defamation unless you have proof that he has deliberately broke the capacitor and sold TS a faulty motherboard.

In this case neither party has proven who broke the capacitor.

Lets not go into people's shoe but take the case of what a "reasonable man" would do. You have a motherboard with capacitor sticking out. I for one carry a sling back to work and if you walk there is always a possibility that the capacitor may rub against the bag and break during the motion of walking unless you brother slides like a snail or can do Michael Jackson's moonwalk. Worst still if your sling back does not have a hard casing meaning that it is flexible type. Hence a reasonable man would put a motherboard in a box. Although I am not an IT expert but I do know that capacitors are quite easy to bend and hence would never put it in a bag unless there is a box. That is why motherboards are shipped in boxes with another cardboard layer inside and a sponge at the bottom. Take some time and THINK why people do this. Why go through the hassle of nice hard boxes and not shipping the motherboards in plastic bags?

Again if Mr Choong wanted to have cheated you in advance how would he know that your brother is going to carry a sling bag in advance and use it as an excuse? He has been trying to get the point across that you should have brought a box along as he took the precaution of bringing a box and you didn't.

We are not GOD but Mr. Choong if you read this and if the motherboard had been faulty all along please do stand up and take responsibility. You may think that GOD do not know but I can testify that GOD has a very long payback time and he never forgets.

So to all who are merely accusing without any evidence please do STOP as we are digressing from the solution. I don't know who Mr. Choong is but from what you say if it is true I don't want to deal with him. As a gentleman perhaps he should take the board back and RMA himself and tell the TS that I cannot guarantee that they will replace it due to physical damage but at least TS would be happy that you tried. Why the need to hide behind a "third party or hope that some kind soul would solder for you"? Be proactive man since you have the receipt and know where you bought it from rather than asking the TS to do the RMA.

To TS time is an essence and as spoken by earlier members if Mr Choong does not want to help, do the RMA yourself. Go to LowYat and see whether any of the big boys like Viewnet etc will do it for you. Ask nicely because thay may help you. I had previously bought something from Singapore and it spoilt within the warranty period and a shop in LowYat KS Network was kind enough to RMA for me even though I did not buy from them. I am also not sure but I thought that the big boys in Low Yat may assist with RMA for a fee. Correct me if I am wrong.
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1st of all appreciate that still have someone here understand why a motherboard need to be place into a box during transportation. smile.gif
as I mentioned earlier i m a long term trader and buyer here and there is no reason for me to trade a defective mobo with TS .. i swear to god that this mobo was brought and tested ok ... also i have deal with so many members even i ships my things to sabah and sarawak with no problems.

anywhere lets get back to track and settle the issue .... I will help TS to get this defective mobo for RMA but with conditions :

1. i hv no guarantee that RMA is allow but i will try send it to distro
2. if any cost incur TS have to bare half of the cost

If TS still want to solve this problem u can PM me anytime ...
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post Jun 29 2009, 06:01 AM

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Thing seems to go way out of hand here..I may have overlooked somewhere..

do we have a clarification that c.c.chong and mr_sekcee are da same dude ?

In this case both parties need to be patient and try to be as professional as they can..if they solve this problem as two friends working to solve this,this matter could have been settled long time ago...men's ego are to blamed in this kind of situation nod.gif

nonetheless,we do need to stop the blaming game and instead help focus on how can the mobo be fixed..TS I suggest u open a thread in Hardware Q&A and ask those dudes there how can you repair or any idea in getting ur mobo fixed as here is a place to resolve disputes...not a place to bincang2 how to repair mobo =)

Do not worry my fellow friends,problem exist to be solved and lets try to work for a solution ya be it takes 1 week or 1 month or even a year =)

Chill ya both parties,no hard feelings and I pray all da best for both parties to solve this matter asap with the best possible and the most fair solution.Thanks

-asam-

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post Jun 29 2009, 09:13 AM

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Next time... ALL SELLER please pack your computer stuff carefully la... Put in proper anti static bag and boxes if you can find it... It minimise the damage parts risk claim by buyer...

Or more disputes thread will be open la...
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post Jun 29 2009, 10:30 AM

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aiya this cc cheong damn cina fellow business la
want buy stuff want cheap2
sell ppl broken stuff dun wan be response
i sell him good stuff, he go make spoil
and ask me refund
sumore calling my parents all those bullshit
u x tahu jaga barang, jgn jual beli la
menyampah jer
pergi jaga babi lagi bagus
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post Jun 29 2009, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(dharwin @ Jun 29 2009, 10:30 AM)
aiya this cc cheong damn cina fellow business la
want buy stuff want cheap2
sell ppl broken stuff dun wan be response
i sell him good stuff, he go make spoil
and ask me refund
sumore calling my parents all those bullshit
u x tahu jaga barang, jgn jual beli la
menyampah jer
pergi jaga babi lagi bagus
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Yo...bro...mind your language...too rude...ha ha.... icon_idea.gif


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post Jun 29 2009, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(dharwin @ Jun 29 2009, 10:30 AM)
aiya this cc cheong damn cina fellow business la
want buy stuff want cheap2
sell ppl broken stuff dun wan be response
i sell him good stuff, he go make spoil
and ask me refund
sumore calling my parents all those bullshit
u x tahu jaga barang, jgn jual beli la
menyampah jer
pergi jaga babi lagi bagus
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betul ker nih? kalau mcm nih, babi pon taknak tgk muka dia
bila dia yang kena, pandai pulak dia mintak refund, haiyaaaaaa
call ppl bullshit?doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
dem u!!!!
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post Jun 29 2009, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(c.c.chong @ Jun 29 2009, 05:01 AM)
1st of all appreciate that still have someone here understand why a motherboard need to be place into a box during transportation.  smile.gif 
as I mentioned earlier i m a long term trader and buyer here and there is no reason for me to trade a defective mobo with TS .. i swear to god that this mobo was brought and tested ok ... also i have deal with so many members even i ships my things to sabah and sarawak with no problems.

anywhere lets get back to track and settle the issue .... I will help TS to get this defective mobo for RMA but with conditions :

1. i hv no guarantee that RMA is allow but i will try send it to distro
2. if any cost incur TS have to bare half of the cost


If TS still want to solve this problem u can PM me anytime ...
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after so many pages of arguing with beautifully twisted and turned(not to mention avoiding) words+answers+questions, now only you offer this? after TS decided to 'move on' from you? you're indeed a good seller.

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after reading this thread, i have found that:
1. c.c.chong said the board back from rma and never test it, but he told TS its working?
2. there are how many caps on a mobo? when cod who will check all the cap from 360 angel?
3. how many SENIOR member here know how to repair a motherboard? by spamming few K of post will know how to repair a board?

now c.c.chong finally offered some irresponsible offer.
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to be fair to both parties, he should have bear half of the total losing cost no metter the board can be rma-ed or repaired.
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post Jun 29 2009, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(dharwin @ Jun 29 2009, 10:30 AM)
aiya this cc cheong damn -- fellow business la
want buy stuff want cheap2
sell ppl broken stuff dun wan be response
i sell him good stuff, he go make spoil
and ask me refund
sumore calling my parents all those bullshit
u x tahu jaga barang, jgn jual beli la
menyampah jer
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you are not supposed to curse someone by touching race issues.. i hope u get warned.. and apologize at least.. u may hurt some ppl's feeling here
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post Jun 29 2009, 04:31 PM

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@ dharwin & nuruis

kawan, cakap tu biar berlapik sikit. just because he chose not to be responsible in this matter doesn't entitle the two of you to bash him up like that. you don't have to stoop so low to get your point across.

This post has been edited by sonark: Jun 29 2009, 04:45 PM
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post Jun 29 2009, 06:53 PM

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So far the proc is ok. Thank God. Atleast I got something. Attached image is the prove.


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The question is now do I need to fix the mobo or send it to RMA? Which one is the best? About the cost, should I claimed from that guy before or after send the mobo fix/RMA? Because if I let him to do it, I think I can't no longer trust him anymore. So, I want to do it on my own.

Thanks for helping guys.

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QUOTE(Aresz.com @ Jun 29 2009, 06:53 PM)
So far the proc is ok. Thank God. Atleast I got something. Attached image is the prove.
user posted image
The question is now do I need to fix the mobo or send it to RMA? Which one is the best? About the cost, should I claimed from that guy before or after send the mobo fix/RMA? Because if I let him to do it, I think I can't no longer trust him anymore. So, I want to do it on my own.

Thanks for helping guys.

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if u send to rma with psychical damage, they will accept but u need to bear the repair cost. the best is send for rma because if u try repair yourself, maybe the problem is not only from the cap.
if they do not detect the psychical damage, they might rma for u free thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(hengmy @ Jun 29 2009, 07:35 PM)
if u send to rma with psychical damage, they will accept but u need to bear the repair cost. the best is send for rma because if u try repair yourself, maybe the problem is not only from the cap.
if they do not detect the psychical damage, they might rma for u free thumbup.gif
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Oh really? In that case, I will send it for RMA. So, can u provide me the steps? As from previous post, there are some explanation on this process, but I really don't understand.. doh.gif doh.gif

Can it be more specific?

Thanks.. smile.gif
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is it true c.c chong is mr sekcee?im always buying from mr sekcee,so far ok....6month ago i bought cpu from mr sekcee worth rm 400 somthing,then buying hardisk,processor e8200 and many more....no problem at all...
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QUOTE(naq_bp @ Jun 29 2009, 08:05 PM)
is it true c.c chong is mr sekcee?im always buying from mr sekcee,so far ok....6month ago i bought cpu from mr sekcee worth rm 400 somthing,then buying hardisk,processor e8200 and many more....no problem at all...
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Then your luck is good back days..Mine got faulty.
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QUOTE(Aresz.com @ Jun 29 2009, 07:54 PM)
Oh really? In that case, I will send it for RMA. So, can u provide me the steps? As from previous post, there are some explanation on this process, but I really don't understand.. doh.gif  doh.gif

Can it be more specific?

Thanks.. smile.gif
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this is what i experienced with my gigabyte board which has physical damage on lan chip, they charged rm40 for repair and waited for 6 months doh.gif
if the board has any distro sticker, u can send them to distro and they will help u rma, if not then u have to send back to intel, try look on their website for more info.

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