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post Aug 10 2009, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(erkawei @ Aug 10 2009, 07:08 AM)
Any idea what is the maximum credit limit for card issuer like Citibank or DA?
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Each Platinum credit card from each bank can have a maximum credit line of RM300,000. Let say Citibank gives you a VISA Platinum and a Platinum Mastercard, each with a separate credit line of the maximum RM300,000, then you will have a total credit line of RM600,000 from Citibank for your VISA Platinum/Platinum Mastercard.


QUOTE(arsenal @ Aug 10 2009, 10:05 AM)
American express Gold card...It is applicable to apply the Longiness watch? Thanks
Yes.
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QUOTE(ashraful @ Aug 10 2009, 10:24 PM)
and how can i know the credit limit of the cc? for example i want to buy an lcd tv priced of RM5k++, and my credit limit let's say around RM3k, will they approved it?
This might not be possible. Since you do not have sufficient credit line.

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QUOTE(alexwsk @ Aug 11 2009, 09:10 AM)
i applied using my MBB petronas with 15k CL.
Not sure what's the minumum
So did they approve your application for the AMEX Gold credit card ?


QUOTE(mengfui @ Aug 11 2009, 09:46 AM)
Normally they will still ask for your pay slip after you enclose your existing credit card copy.  If your existing MBB cc have minimum 6k limit above will be save. smile.gif
No need to submit your pay slip anymore if you're going to apply a credit card using existing credit card. Was told last time i went to get the AMEX Gold credit card application form. But my question is, will Maybank accept our 6-month old credit card as a reference ? Because apparently Public Bank do. So i wondered if it is ok with Maybank ? Any idea ?

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QUOTE(ashraful @ Aug 11 2009, 09:41 PM)
hmm, does that means my MBB petronas CL also at 5k?
damn, that means i can't buy an lcd tv priced at RM5.8k?
No. You can't. If the credit line of your Maybank Petronas VISA is RM5000, then you can only do RM5000 installment. Maybe you can pay RM800 upfront and charge the remaining RM5000 to your Maybank Petronas VISA and then convert it into installment ?

If your Maybank Petronas VISA has a credit line of only RM5000. When you charge RM5000 into the card, then you cannot use the card anymore. Let say you have paid RM1000 back to Maybank, then you will be able to start using your Maybank Petronas VISA again as there are still RM1000 unusable credit line in your Maybank Petronas VISA.
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QUOTE(krazee350 @ Aug 12 2009, 12:23 PM)
Just call the CS regarding annual fee waiver..

HSBC - 12x swipes
Citibank - 3x swipes within 2 months..

I read before in here saying that HSBC need only 4x swipes. Kinda confuse now.. Maybe its their new policy?
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For HSBC, you need to swipe 12x times in a year to get your annual fee waived (all the same for HSBC Classic, Gold and Platinum credit card).
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QUOTE(winner @ Aug 12 2009, 02:03 PM)
1st year is FOC. Unless Citi has changed its policy.

To those interested, all range of HSBC credit card is annual fee free too for the first year.


QUOTE(winner @ Aug 12 2009, 02:03 PM)
FYI, I've just lodged a complaint to SCB yesterday regarding the super high conversion rate they charged on my overseas transactions.
I guess this is the reason why Standard Chartered can afford to give its credit card holders 3x - 5x points for overseas transaction. Keep us updated smile.gif

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QUOTE(wassap @ Aug 12 2009, 10:16 PM)
just got my card today. applied for visa gold but they give me visa classic and 2k credit line only. was dumbfounded.
May be you have too many credit cards already ?

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Standard Chartered Malaysia Priority Banking customers will all soon be issued complimentary VISA Infinite credit card instead of the current Platinum Mastercard.

Standard Chartered has already relaunched its Priority Banking service in Hong Kong and Singapore and this will soon extend to China, Taiwan, Korea, Malaysia, India and the United Arab Emirates in coming months.

Just got this news a few minutes ago.
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QUOTE(arsenal @ Aug 13 2009, 05:33 PM)
If I want to swipe 8k and my cc limit is 6.5K, can I desposit the money into the account?..I try to bank my money to maybank cc online but cannot..can anyone help? Thanks
Do it over Maybank CDM. I did it once with my Maybankard AMEX Gold (yes, the very ugly one). I wanted the point laugh.gif


QUOTE(hye @ Aug 13 2009, 05:39 PM)
Finally ... at least their PB customers can get back something after a dismal returns on their savings/current accounts. When they say relaunched their PB service, what does it means ?
I notice that Standard Chartered still give very high interest rate for their "Privilege Savings/Checking account". I believe this account is reserved only for their Priority Banking customers ?

Anyways, i'm not too sure what does Standard Chartered mean with the relaunching of their Priority Banking service. I believe it is more or less the same as HSBC Premier and Citibank Citigold, with added perks.

HSBC Premier
- relaunched in 2007
- Complimentary Premier Mastercard
- Offering even better service such as global view
- Premier membership in HSBC worldwide as long as you maintain your Premier status at home
- Premier assistance in more than 9000 HSBC branches worldwide
- fee-free remittance between HSBC Premier accounts (same account holder only)

Citibank Citigold
- relaunched in 2008
- Complimentary Platinum credit card
- Offering even better service such as global view
- Citigold membership in Citibank worldwide as long as you maintain your Citigold status at home
- Citigold assistance in around 4000 Citibank branches worldwide
- instant fee-free remittance between Citibank Citigold accounts (same account holder only)
**instant remittance available in certain countries only

Basically the perks offered by HSBC Premier and Citibank Citigold are the same. Believe the relaunch Standard Chartered Priority Banking service will offer more or less the same benefits as its two main rivals. However, i think Standard Chartered is at an disadvantage here as their global franchise is no where as big as HSBC and Citibank.

One notable changes is the complimentary VISA Infinite credit card. Currently only Standard Chartered Hong Kong and Singapore issue complimentary VISA Infinite to its Priority Banking customers. Managed to find the picture of a Standard Chartered Singapore issued VISA Infinite. Click the link below to view.

Standard Chartered Priority Banking VISA Infinite

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QUOTE(aeronlim @ Aug 14 2009, 09:05 AM)
QUOTE(kewlbuzz @ Aug 13 2009, 12:03 PM)

i wanna use cc for petrol, and also i'll be visiting UK on december. Which the best cc for overseas expenditure?
Will suggest using Citibank, last time i use this card to rent a car at UK, try some Malaysia bank credit card but doesn't work.
I think HSBC will be better. As HSBC is everywhere in Europe. Basically around every corner in UK. Believe they will be able to assist you better should anything goes wrong with your HSBC Malaysia issued credit card.

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Guys, can a bank actually charge us annual fee if we haven't received the physical credit card and to activate it ?

Here is the problem. My mom signed up for 2x Hong Leong credit card in early April. One Hong Leong Bank VISA Gold and one Hong Leong Bank Gold Mastercard. She only received the approval letter from Hong Leong Bank 2 months later. But then my mom wasn't interested in it anymore.

No one was home when the postman came. The postman did not give us any undelivered notice either. Instead we got an undelivered notice from Hong Leong Bank about 3 weeks after we got the initial letter from Hong Leong Bank that my mom's credit cards been approved.

Since my mom doesn't want the cards anymore. She decided to just ignore the notice. No one from Hong Leong Bank credit card centre call about the credit cards. So it's been more than 2 months now and just this afternoon we received a statement from Hong Leong Bank that they have charged my mom RM320. RM160 for each card.

So can they actually do that ? I mean we NEVER activated the card. We do not even have the cards. how are we supposed to activate it ? rclxub.gif

By the way, both cards are **Free For life. Need to swipe twice on each card in order to get the annual fee waiver.

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QUOTE(winner @ Aug 14 2009, 05:10 PM)
If I am not mistaken, a forummer also highlighted the same issue some few weeks ago. I suggest you to lodge a complaint to BNM. Otherwise, there will be more victims in this context.
Yes. Will do. Still don't get why would they charge us annual fee since the cards are still with them and we never activated the card. This is simply outrageous ! mad.gif

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Aug 14 2009, 05:58 PM)
Some/Most cards nowadays are automatic-activated or no activation needed.

The card we're talking here now is Hong Leong Bank credit cards. And yes, Hong Leong Bank credit cards need to be activated. I still have the letter from Hong Leong Bank telling us that the credit cards need to be activated over the phone. I'm going out soon, will scan and post it here later tonight sweat.gif


QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Aug 14 2009, 05:58 PM)
Both your mom and you know well aware must swipe twice on each card for annual waiver. Yet decide to ignore the notice and not send a formal letter to terminate it or to pick it up from HLB to use it.
Hong Leong Bank's conditional free for life credit card is not the only card that my mom has applied in the past.

My mom applied for Maybank Ikhwan VISA Gold around October last year when Maybank just rolled out the credit card, which its cardholder must swipe at least 12 times in order to get annual fee waived. However, we only get a response from Maybank in January 2009. Very efficient eh ? laugh.gif No one was home when the postman came. We did receive several undelivered notices from Maybank but we decided just to ignore it. We received the Maybank Ikhwan VISA Gold statement from Maybank 3 times between January - March 2009 but we were never charged the annual fee.

Another example is HSBC Amanah MPower VISA Gold. This card also requires its cardholder to swipe 12 times to get the annual fee waived. We did get this card. However, we were told by one of its own staff here in HSBC Kota Kinabalu branch that the card is not good as many promotion is not available to the credit card issued by HSBC Amanah. So we decided not to activate the HSBC Amanah MPower VISA Gold. Again, just like the Maybank Ikhwan VISA Gold case, we were never charged any annual fee.


QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Aug 14 2009, 05:58 PM)
Both your mom and you know well aware must swipe twice on each card for annual waiver. Yet decide to ignore the notice and not send a formal letter to terminate it or to pick it up from HLB to use it.

We did not see why is that necessary as both the credit cards are inactive.


QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Aug 14 2009, 05:58 PM)
2-3 months later, since the swipe 2x for each card is not done, it is normal for billing department to charge it.
I beg to differ ! How are we supposed to use the said credit cards since we do not even have it ? And assume that we already received the credit cards from Hong Leong Bank but did not activate the cards, by rule both the cards should be inactive. How can they charge annual fee to accounts that were never active ? As per BNM law, they should not charge annual fee to credit card accounts that were never activated.


QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Aug 14 2009, 05:58 PM)
So, summary is, due to the ignorance of not informing the bank with a simple letter to terminate the card since non-delivery and no more interest, it is now more headache to send the simple letter and also request for waiver.  doh.gif
I see this more of Hong Leong Bank's ignorance rather than ours. This is just like a guy is trying to get a girl he fancy to be his girlfriend. But the said girl has been very cold and refuse to go out with the guy. So after several attempts, the guy should be smart enough to know that he has no chance and move on laugh.gif



QUOTE(hye @ Aug 14 2009, 06:56 PM)
Just to share from someone I know ... experience from Alliance.

Basically same scenario

- Unable to deliver card to receipient
- Card goes back to the back after 2 weeks
- Bank then sends one letter ... asking to collect card
- Bank send one more letter to collect card after 2 weeks and give 30 days to collect card or else account will auto terminate and closed.

Difference is that

- Never receive statement and say AF is charged
- Account is auto closed after a while due to non-collection of card
This is exactly the same scenario with the Maybank Ikhwan VISA Gold that my mom applied in October last year.

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Aug 14 2009, 07:26 PM)
The card we're talking here now is Hong Leong Bank credit cards. And yes, Hong Leong Bank credit cards need to be activated. I still have the letter from Hong Leong Bank telling us that the credit cards need to be activated over the phone. I'm going out soon, will scan and post it here later tonight   sweat.gif
Attached is the notice from Hong Leong Bank i promised earlier. About their credit cards need to be manually activated.

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And by the way, some minor correction. One must swipes 24 times per annum in order to get the annual fee waiver instead of 12 times mentioned earlier.

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QUOTE(sohming06 @ Aug 15 2009, 12:51 PM)
Have doubt here about HSBC Amanah CC and HSBC CC..
Any differences between these two cards?  blink.gif
HSBC Amanah credit card will give you cash back. For HSBC Amanah VISA Gold, you will get 0.5% cash back for every Ringgit spent, be it locally or overseas. As for HSBC Amanah VISA Platinum, you will get 0.5% cash back for retail transaction locally and 1% cash back for overseas spending.

HSBC credit card on the other hand, is all point based. Most promotions (discount or double/triple points) you see on their website or newspaper are only available to HSBC issued credit card. This is the reason why i did not activate my HSBC Amanah Gold VISA. It's been more than 8 months now since i got the HSBC Amanah VISA Gold, believe it's now closed.

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QUOTE(sohming06 @ Aug 15 2009, 06:26 PM)
Seems bad comment of this card.. cry.gif
1 more question, how come i still need to buy a security device for rm15? Can i go HSBC and take it myself?
Actually it will be given to you free of charge. But if you accidentally break it, then they will charge you RM50 for replacement. If you request for a security device replacement due to low battery, then they won't charge you a cent.

Even though HSBC Amanah is the wholly-owned subsidiary of HSBC, they are actually separate entities. You can still apply for a conventional credit card from HSBC.

By the way, i applied for two HSBC credit cards last week. This time i'm no longer a supplementary cardholder brows.gif Received a call from HSBC yesterday and was told that my HSBC credit cards been approved. Should receive the cards next week. Now that is fast rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(cannavaro @ Aug 15 2009, 10:50 PM)
Regarding the HSBC security device..

Since it was a hassle to ask him for the device every time, I copied a few of the numbers generated by the device. Every single time any of the number works without having to generate a new one. No idea about now though...
Hmm ... that's disturbing ... I will try and give you guys an update.

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Aug 15 2009, 11:08 PM)
QUOTE(cannavaro @ Aug 15 2009, 10:50 PM)

Regarding the HSBC security device..

Since it was a hassle to ask him for the device every time, I copied a few of the numbers generated by the device. Every single time any of the number works without having to generate a new one. No idea about now though...
Hmm ... that's disturbing ... I will try and give you guys an update.
Tried. At first i clicked the security device 4 times to get 4 different sets of number and then wrote each down. After that i tried to use the "fourth number" at first but failed. I tried again once, this time with the "second number" instead. Again failed. Since i already failed twice, i did not dare to try it for the third time as i afraid they might temporary disable my online account. So during the third attempt, i login like usual. Enter my username, then my password and lastly, i click the security device to get a number and enter it. Successfully login this time.

So the conclusion is that, you cannot use numbers that were used before. You also cannot generate several numbers through the security device, write them down and use it later/next time because their system do not accept it. I do not know how the hell HSBC make it but i'm impressed !!!! rclxms.gif


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QUOTE(sohming06 @ Aug 15 2009, 11:34 PM)

Huh? HSBC didnt give me the device woh..
I just received my card this morning via poslaju.. dont have security device inside woh..
Need to go collect at HSBC myself? rclxub.gif
You need to apply for Internet banking facility in order to get the security device. It's requirement for HSBC Internet banking.

True. There will be some forms you need to sign. Unlike most banks, where you can simply apply for online banking through ATM machine. This is impossible with HSBC. Should you wish to use HSBC internet banking, you must apply for it at one of their branch.

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QUOTE(sohming06 @ Aug 16 2009, 12:33 AM)
OK, will do it next week.. Any idea of HSBC office hour? nod.gif
HSBC
- For regular banking customers > 9.30am - 4.00pm
**Weekdays only

- For Premier customers > 9.30am - 6.00pm
**Weekdays only
**No cash transaction between 4.00pm - 6.00pm


HSBC AMANAH 1 Utama & Shah Alam branch
- 10.30am - 6.00pm (cash transactions)
**Close for 1 hour between 1pm - 2pm on Friday
**Weekdays only

- 10.30am - 9.30pm (for non cash transactions)
**Close for 1 hour between 1pm - 2pm on Friday
**Mondays - Sundays

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QUOTE(cannavaro @ Aug 16 2009, 02:46 AM)
How does the security device look like now? Is it still the black thingy?
Yes.

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