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post Jul 28 2009, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Jul 28 2009, 01:26 PM)
what's the minimum income requirement for the World Mastercard Elite or Visa Infinite? Anyone got a photo of what its like? drool.gif
As mentioned earlier, World Mastercard Elite is NOT available in Malaysia.


QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jul 28 2009, 03:33 PM)
@MilesAndMore,
So this HSBC Visa Platinum is different from the HSBC Premier?  Cause if I ain't mistaken, HSBC Premier doesn't give U 80% of your time deposit; AFAIK their CL starts at RM40k.

According to the HSBC staff (she's a Premier relationship manager), the minimum credit line for HSBC Premier Mastercard is RM30,000 but most approved HSBC Premier Mastercard carry a slightly higher credit line than the minimum credit line. I guess this is why most HSBC Premier Mastercard cardholders here said that their credit line for the card is RM40,000 instead of RM30,000 but the REAL minimum credit line for HSBC Premier Mastercard is ONLY RM30,000.

HSBC VISA Platinum is indeed different from HSBC Premier Mastercard. The HSBC staff told me that the HSBC Premier Mastercard is NOT tied to any of our "Time Deposit" accounts with the bank hence the credit line given for HSBC Premier Mastercard won't be 80% of our total "Time Deposit" in HSBC. I was also told that HSBC Premier Mastercard is a complimentary card issued to HSBC Premier customers as a gesture for supporting and being loyal to HSBC.

Should we already have a HSBC Premier Mastercard but wish to get a second card from HSBC, we will be told to apply for HSBC VISA Platinum pledged by one of our Time Deposit accounts held with HSBC. Please also note that when approved, both HSBC Premier Mastercard and HSBC VISA Platinum will carry a SEPARATE CREDIT LINE.

They will need to prepare a letter when you want to apply for a credit card pledged by Time Deposit (TD/FD) and this process usually will take 3 - 4 days smile.gif


QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jul 28 2009, 03:33 PM)
Thanks for the shedding a light on the Visa & Mastercard categories.  Looks like I now need to get my hands on the World Mastercard.  So, which banks offer it again? tongue.gif
CIMB Bank, Direct Access and MBF. You will be given both World Mastercard and VISA Infinite when you apply either one from CIMB Bank or Direct Access. The CIMB Bank World Mastercard is point based system while VISA Infinite will give you 0.5% cash rebate for local transaction and 1% for overseas spending.


QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jul 28 2009, 05:22 PM)
RM50K CL to qualify for VI? If you ask me that is kind of low as Plat starting CL (exclude Robinson and UOB ONE card) usually at RM30K right?
hahaha, funny.
Earlier on, someone said his/her Platinum credit card only has RM20,000 of credit line. If my memory serves me correctly, i think it's Preferred Platinum VISA/Mastercard from UOB Bank.

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QUOTE(hye @ Jul 28 2009, 07:37 PM)
My rant about HSBC's Premier Mastercard is the card design itself - HSBC put in a lot of effort to design its entire range of cc but the Premier's design is just plain lazy and too simple to reflect its status.

Agreed. Hopefully one day they will bring the Premier Mastercard back to design board.


QUOTE(hye @ Jul 28 2009, 07:37 PM)
You also need to surrender your Premier MC should you exit from your Premier status.

I guess this is what set it apart from all other credit cards.


QUOTE(hye @ Jul 28 2009, 07:37 PM)
I'm surprised about the Time Deposit pledge system as this is new to me. What is the minimum lock-in period ... should be nothing less than 12 months I guess. And what happens if you decide to exit before maturity ? Would the bank allows it ?
The HSBC Premeir RM didn't inform me anything about minimum lock-in period but she did say that should one decides to lift the related "Time Deposit", the VISA Platinum credit card will need to be cancelled as well.

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Jul 29 2009, 10:47 PM)
btw, on other matter, just now i view my OCBC Great Eastern CC got cash rebate !

1st time OCBC gives cash rebate... any1 got heard about this?

FYI, i got auto debit for my monthly insurance premium with OCBC, is it the case?
All OCBC credit cards will now give rebates instead of point accumulation, just like Public Bank. The rebate system is really shabby, just like Public Bank too doh.gif

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QUOTE(tgeoklin @ Jul 30 2009, 05:39 PM)
Do also keep in mind that different banks have different appetite for risks, so while it may be a no go at one bank, does not mean that another will also be the same. Banks like CIMB are amongst the more adventurous while PBB is considered very conservative.
Agreed. Public Bank is as conservative as HSBC, if not more.

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jul 31 2009, 11:25 PM)
hMmm.. U people sure are scaring me with this over/under exposed thing!  Mine's almost over exposed and I've no existing car or home loan with bank.  With those two in place, die wok!
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May be you should give up some of your credit cards or request to lower down your credit line smile.gif

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Aug 1 2009, 12:45 AM)
What the heck, soon I have to talk to a non-Malaysian CS rep if I call up HSBC.
Oh shoot ! My mom has canceled her CIMB Mastercard and we're bringing our credit card business over to HSBC.


QUOTE(winner @ Aug 1 2009, 11:22 AM)
HSBC M'sia is downsizing? That's definitely not a pleasant news. Oh, I should advise my family to take money out from the bank? I'm a bit "kiasu" type and I did the same to Citi end of last year.
HSBC Malaysia is NOT downsizing. In fact, HSBC is opening a HSBC Amanah branch in Kota Kinabalu very soon. This will be HSBC second branch in Kota Kinabalu. The exact location is not known but was told the branch is under renovation now and they have hired people to work in this particular branch. They seem to be very secretive about the location but i suspect it is in Universiti Malaysia Sabah (UMS) area.

Believe they are shutting down the call centre here in an effort to cut down on cost. I wondered next time we call HSBC call centre, which country will our calls be diverted to ? I hope it's not Bangalore in India. Many US companies have call centres in Bangalore, India and it's a nightmare. Believe Singapore call centre will assist us better, since we talk in the same language (Manglish/Singlish) laugh.gif

I have been wondering when is Citibank going to set up a branch here in Kota Kinabalu. They were supposed to open a branch in Kota Kinabalu 3 years ago when foreign banks were given license to open 4 more branches in Malaysia but the plan was scrapped in the very last minute and they decided to use the license they planned to open a branch in Kota Kinabalu to open the Citibank branch in Bukit Tengah, Penang instead vmad.gif

Now that they are allowed to open another 4 branches next year, hopefully Kota Kinabalu is back on their expension plan !!!! Been wanted to get their credit card but reluctant as they do not have a branch here. Very troublesome in case there is anything wrong their credit card.

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QUOTE(New Hunk @ Aug 1 2009, 05:54 PM)
HSBC in other country is prestigious and their branch is grand. Look at the Puchong branch OMG..its simply the worst looking bank compared to even Bank Rakyat.
I thought they just finished a major renovation in all their Malaysian branches last year ? No ? I was told that all the 9500+ HSBC branches in the world (be it in UK, USA, France, China, Malaysia or Singapore) now look identical after they refurbished all their branches worldwide since 2007.

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QUOTE(cannavaro @ Aug 1 2009, 06:32 PM)
Not sure about other CIMB cc but I can confirm that the 5% rebate applies to CIMB Petronas Mastercard. Obviously this 5% rebate applies only if you pump at Petronas.
I thought the rebate is only 2% ? Or there is an ongoing promotion now ?

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Let say that i have a HSBC VISA Gold and HSBC Gold Mastercard, any of you know if i can combine the reward points earned by these two credit cards to redeem stuff from HSBC Rewards ?
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QUOTE(Lineage @ Aug 3 2009, 11:55 AM)
oh..ok..then too bad..if i want to use card to apply another card, the card must use at least 1 year right?
Yes.

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QUOTE(he-sham @ Aug 5 2009, 11:18 AM)
then i said i will proceed to make a formal complain to consumer body..& then she said ok la ...
Remember to forward your letter to BNM too laugh.gif

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QUOTE(GHz @ Aug 6 2009, 09:43 PM)
I kept in Saadiq saver acc, I think the interest is higher.
Saadiq $aver's interest rate has dropped significantly. If i'm not mistaken, the first RM5000 won't have any interest paid. Last time i checked the rate was last week.
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QUOTE(GHz @ Aug 7 2009, 07:26 AM)
the interest rate drop significantly & the most annoying thing is they change the tier rate.
My only question now is that if they will increase the rate back to what is was last year when the economy is getting better again. We will know about a year and a half from now smile.gif


QUOTE(Putraskyline @ Aug 7 2009, 10:30 AM)
Is there any way to up my credit limit for new Amex Gold Credit card? I registered during treatsfair and they give only 1k credit limit. Totally ridiculous.
OH MY GOD !! Just RM1000 ? Ridiculous indeed.


QUOTE(Putraskyline @ Aug 7 2009, 11:18 AM)
Are you sure its combined? I call Amex CS and they told me its not,
QUOTE(Putraskyline @ Aug 7 2009, 04:10 PM)
My Ikhwan Amex/Visa are higher by 10. Amex CS said , they can't combine. Maybe I should follow Ghz suggestion. Will cancel my Ikhwan and get Amex gold CC upgrade limit.
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Yeah. I also do not think it is combined as the Gold AMEX is a standalone AMEX credit card. It has nothing to do with any other Maybank credit card with the "UGLY" Maybankard word printed on top.


QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Aug 7 2009, 03:56 PM)
This is so absolutely ridiculous.  I've waited 3 entire days for SCB to get back to me re this Online Banking Account. I'm fed up.  I think I'll just use Citibank to pay my bills!
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What'd the problem ? Should you wish to pay your bills via standardchartered.com.my, you can only use your Standard Chartered VISA Infinite credit card to make the payment.

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Aug 7 2009, 07:37 PM)
@alexwsk & MilesAndMore,
I haven't been able to create that online account with my SCB VI !
Oh, that's easy. You can now register for Standard Chartered online banking without leaving home, just like Citibank's online banking. Check it out now at their website smile.gif


QUOTE(winner @ Aug 7 2009, 07:56 PM)
You need to wait 3-5 working days to have your online acc activated. I experienced this. It wasn't efficient.

Actually, one can activate their online account instantly, by visiting one of Standard Chartered branch. Or ... one may create an online banking account himself/herself online. Just open their online banking page and follow instructions.


QUOTE(winner @ Aug 7 2009, 07:56 PM)
But once you have activated, you'll find that its online payment system is better than M2U.
So true. Their online banking portal has improved a lot. But too bad you can only make bill payment using Standard Chartered credit card, should you choose to pay for a bill using credit card via their website.


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QUOTE(y@nggene @ Aug 7 2009, 09:18 PM)
why i work 2 month with fix income also canot aply? salary 2.5k above. anyone can guide me? no reason from bank.
Wait for another one month. Usually they need you to submit your 3 months salary slip. And try with CIMB Bank. They are not as strict. Good luck.

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QUOTE(hye @ Aug 8 2009, 08:10 AM)
Citibank implementation of Customer Credit Limit. (Seems new to me!)

Citibank Customer CL
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Scenario 3 is quite confusing. Anyway, why the hassle ? They should just call it "Combined Credit Limit" like other banks rclxub.gif


QUOTE(winner @ Aug 8 2009, 11:16 AM)
Is the rebate promotion on overseas transactions for unlimited period or temporary in nature? On top of the rebate, does DA/CIMB VI give reward points too?
CIMB Bank VISA Infinite gives you cash rebate. There is no reward point. For local spending, the cash rebate is 0.5% and 1% for overseas transaction.

CIMB Bank Classic/Gold/Platinum/World Mastercard will give you reward point instead of cash rebate. You'll be given 1 reward point for every Ringgit charged, be it locally or overseas.

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QUOTE(GHz @ Aug 7 2009, 09:05 AM)
I just look at my saadiq saver account, in July they still pays about 1.5% interest.
Just a note, Saadiq $aver has been reduced to 0.5% now for balance between RM0 - RM100000. As for e$aver account, it's been also further reduced to 0.4%, down from 0.7%. Going to close my e$aver account on Monday and transfer all the money back to my Public Bank account sad.gif Too bad, because i really liked them ... (for their savings's interest rate laugh.gif )
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QUOTE(DarReNz @ Aug 9 2009, 03:15 AM)
u can use the justone current as it is higher than e$aver
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Too bad not everyone is allowed to simply open a Justone current account.


QUOTE(GHz @ Aug 9 2009, 09:43 AM)
I am the same as you, I like them but since the interest rate is coming down, I also going to transfer my money somewhere else. Not sure which bank offer comparable high interest ..Their Justone CA not bad at 1.38% for saving between RM2k to 50k but too lazy to go to branch in Kajang to activate.

Bank Islam at 1.16% laugh.gif

Not going to open an account at Bank Islam as i suspect the rate will also drop very soon. Will proceed with my original plan and transfer all my money in Standard Chartered e$aver back to my Public Bank account. Public Bank is far more convenient as there are many Public Bank branches in Sabah rclxms.gif


QUOTE(winner @ Aug 9 2009, 10:14 AM)
Even though SCB has slashed its interest rates for savings and current accounts, I thinks its rates are still very competitive or the highest in town.
Very competitive indeed. However, it's been slashed to the point that it is no longer economical to maintain the account. As we all know, Standard Chartered, just like any other foreign banks have very little branches. There is only 1 Standard Chartered branch in Kota Kinabalu which is located in the old city centre. Just imagine the petrol needed to drive all the way from our house to the old city centre just to get some money.

I know that we can use our Standard Chartered ATM card to withdraw money at the House ATM network namely HSBC, UOB Bank and OCBC Bank but the problem is that, all the HSBC, UOB Bank, OCBC Bank and Standard Chartered Kota Kinabalu branch located on the same street (basically just 2 minutes short walk away from each other). There isn't any benefit really.

Standard Chartered e$aver account was launched back in late 2007 with so much fanfare. It gave 2.5% of interest since it was introduced up till February 2009. Then it was cut down to 1.5%, after that 0.7% and now 0.4%. What a shame sad.gif


QUOTE(ashraful @ Aug 9 2009, 02:44 PM)
i have a question, i want to apply a MBB CC Classic card.
but the thing is they have annual fee which i think it's ridiculous.

The annual fee can be easily waived by calling them up. Anyway, they do have 5 series of credit card that are free for life. See below :
Maybank Petronas VISA
- absolutely free for life, even if you never swipe it.
- available in Gold and Platinum.

American Express Gold Credit Card
- absoluty free for life, even if you never swipe it.

Maybank SonyCard VISA
- absolutely free for life, even if you never swipe it.

Maybank Ikhwan
- free for life**, must swipe at least 12 times in a year to get the annual fee waived.
- available in VISA Gold, VISA Platinum, AMEX Gold and AMEX Platinum

Maybank VISA Flex
- free for life**, must swipe twice in a month to get the annual fee waived.


QUOTE(ashraful @ Aug 9 2009, 02:44 PM)
i want MBB because i can see that most of the shops to accept MBB cards.
Are you talking about installment plan ? Many shops do accept CIMB Bank credit card for 0% interest installment plan too. You might want to check it out.

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QUOTE(ashraful @ Aug 9 2009, 07:43 PM)
right now i was thinking to have whether the sony or AMEX gold CC.

I'm confused, like sony it's visa.. but amex it's visa or mastercard? or it's on it's own?

AMEX is neither VISA nor Mastercard. It is American Express, issued either by a partner financial institution or American Express itself.

American Express is not as widely accepted as VISA and Mastercard in Malaysia and also overseas. But should you shop frequently at those mega shopping centre such as KLCC, Pavillion, The Gardens, Mid Valley and 1Utama. Then it won't be a problem. Most big shops do accept AMEX. For example :
- SHELL
- Kinokuniya
- MPH
- Times Bookstore
- Carrefour
- Pizza Hut
- Giant
- Cold Storage
- Jaya Jusco
- Parkson
- Robinsons
- Isetan
- Metrojaya
- GAP
- Calvin Klein
& many more (basically all the high end stores such as Louis Vuitton all accept AMEX).


QUOTE(ashraful @ Aug 9 2009, 07:43 PM)
Hmmm, but to think about it again if i take sony card, i'm afraid that i might not use the privelegges of buying sony things THAT often though...

Then you might want to consider Maybank Petronas VISA. It is free for life and NO minimum swipe required to get the annual fee waived. It is some of the few 100% free for life credit card with no string attached.


QUOTE(ashraful @ Aug 9 2009, 07:43 PM)
how about citibank? i would like the citi choice but that have to swipe 2x/month.. it's like i have to buy something in every month.

oh, anyway, my annual income only RM36,000.
I don't think Citibank Choice credit card is good. If i'm not mistaken, it is like a no frills credit card. Whatever charged to the card will earn you NO reward point.

You are qualified for Citibank Gold credit card. If you apply now, the annual fee for the first 2 or 3 years (i couldn't remember exactly) will be automatically waived. After that you will need to call in once a year to get the annual fee waived.

Anyway, if you're interested to apply for a credit card from an international bank. I suggest you to look into HSBC. Their promotion is comparable to Citibank but the points required to redeem stuff (such as shopping vouchers) is lower than Citibank. The only downside is that the HSBC credit card points accumulated is not evergreen, unlike Citibank.


QUOTE(vin_ann @ Aug 9 2009, 10:37 PM)
normally co-brand card did not waive annual fees after 1 year...

perhaps, if u spend a lots on SONY, then can request for waiver??  laugh.gif
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The Maybank SonyCard VISA is free for life without any condition.

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Keen to see Citibank to launch this card in Malaysia in the near future ...
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