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TSlightning69
post Jun 19 2009, 04:44 PM, updated 17y ago

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This is third year in the running now and multi-platform games still fare much better on the 360 then the PS3. Are the 3rd party developers still struggling with the PS3 hardware? So far only Sony's own games are able too out perform the 360 but can a console survive with only first party titles. If 3rd party developers cannot find success with the PS3, it will be a difficult task for the PS3 to succeed in this generation console race.
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post Jun 19 2009, 04:54 PM

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yes, new release Ghostbuster: the game also failed to deliver what PS3 capable for, luckily I'm not interested with multiplaform games (unless it's good) only aim for exclusive tittles like Uncharted 2 or Mass Effect 2
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QUOTE(ajis @ Jun 19 2009, 04:54 PM)
yes, new release Ghostbuster: the game also failed to deliver what PS3 capable for, luckily I'm not interested with multiplaform games (unless it's good) only aim for exclusive tittles like Uncharted 2 or Mass Effect 2
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QUOTE(cwl_ykh @ Jun 19 2009, 04:55 PM)
is that multiplatform? correct me if im wrong sweat.gif
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whoops sorry, for PC also sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ajis @ Jun 19 2009, 04:56 PM)
whoops sorry, for PC also sweat.gif
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post Jun 19 2009, 05:10 PM

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If Ps3 is so hard to program, we will see less quality games from third party. I think even sony's own studio are having hard time with the PS3 hardware. Just look at GT3. Its been 4-5 years yet no release date. Sony can afford this long development time and budget but other third party cannot. If third party put in so much time and money to a game, they will go bust before they even release the game. Afterall , making games is a risky business and with the current scenerio, i can safely say that we will never see quality titles from 3rd party coming to PS3 as its just not justifiable to make. just my opinion.
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post Jun 19 2009, 05:14 PM

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post Jun 19 2009, 06:17 PM

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Added on June 19, 2009, 6:19 pm
QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 19 2009, 04:44 PM)
This is third year in the running now and multi-platform games still fare much better on the 360 then the PS3.  Are the 3rd party developers still struggling with the PS3 hardware?  So far only Sony's own games are able too out perform the 360 but can a console survive with only first party titles. If 3rd party developers cannot find success with the PS3, it will be a difficult task for the PS3 to succeed in this generation console race.
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out perform? how did u compare with it since u didnt know how it would be look like when it runs on xbox360.it's just an assumption of urself.

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post Jun 19 2009, 06:57 PM

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take nintendo for example...
they're known to have some of the best first party titles without much thrid party titles...
are they in the console race still?
if the first party titles are strong, the console itself should sustain...

on the other hand, sony do have a pretty big lineup of third party titles...
and the games are pretty much balanced for both the ps3 and the 360 each with their strengths and weaknesses...
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post Jun 19 2009, 07:02 PM

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let us see how is ff13, crysis2 and MG:R would perform...
those 3 to me would be the benchmark...
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post Jun 19 2009, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(msn83235502 @ Jun 19 2009, 06:17 PM)
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out perform? how did u compare with it since u didnt know how it would be look like when it runs on xbox360.it's just an assumption of urself.
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Just look at the Ghostbuster game......360 version much better then the PS3. And many more...too much to list down.
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 19 2009, 04:44 PM)
This is third year in the running now and multi-platform games still fare much better on the 360 then the PS3.  Are the 3rd party developers still struggling with the PS3 hardware?  So far only Sony's own games are able too out perform the 360 but can a console survive with only first party titles.  If 3rd party developers cannot find success with the PS3, it will be a difficult task for the PS3 to succeed in this generation console race.
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QUOTE(msn83235502 @ Jun 19 2009, 06:17 PM)
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Added on June 19, 2009, 6:19 pm
out perform? how did u compare with it since u didnt know how it would be look like when it runs on xbox360.it's just an assumption of urself.
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 19 2009, 07:05 PM)
Just look at the Ghostbuster game......360 version much better then the PS3.  And many more...too much to list down.
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Sony's game dude....Sony's game....

Yea... i agreed with msn83235502.
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post Jun 19 2009, 08:09 PM

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No.1) You clearly don't look at software sales. Don't act like an analyst.
No.2) You know nuts about game design, so don't act like a developer.
No.3) PS3 isn't hard to code for, it's the process of porting a code over that makes it hard. Get your facts right.

That 3 points pretty much sums everything up that needs to be said about this thread.
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post Jun 19 2009, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 19 2009, 07:05 PM)
Just look at the Ghostbuster game......360 version much better then the PS3.  And many more...too much to list down.
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as far as I know, PS3 first party devs made amazing games.
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Uncharted, Killzone2, GT5P (GT3 was for PS2 wink.gif ) Heavenly Sword, inFamous, Ratchet and Clank Quest of the Booty, Ratchet and Clank Future, Little Big Planet,Hakuna Matata, WIPEOUT (1080P while RACING), Motorstorm1, Motorstrom2, Socom Confrontation. Why can these games be programmed so good ? The developers were given the same Dev Kits. Or maybe simply they are first party studio? Oh ya, the devs of Little Big Planet are not first party devs..Killzone2's too..why ah? and lets look at third party exclusive like MGS4 and Burnout Paradise.Oh COD4 too. Look at how both platforms had amazing looks and gameplay.

I honestly think this thread existed because of Ghostbusters :lo: fiasco. ONE dev. One. tongue.gif

And I suspect , very typical of TS, after throwing the stone, she hides away. No input what so ever. And I really want to know these developerS that are struggling wink.gif I know Sega didnt. Just look at Yakuza3 and Valkrya Chronicles.

Developers are like artists. Its up to them on how they want to paint. As simple as that. If the painting sucks, blaming the canvas is a sign of uber idiocy. rolleyes.gif

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post Jun 19 2009, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(Pr1me_Minister @ Jun 19 2009, 05:14 PM)
If there's a thread you don't like, just don't post in it instead of filling it with pointless spams. And even if this subforum is post count disabled this does not give you a free pass to spam without restraint, and warnings can still be given for such offences.
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what spam?

we have been through this kind of thread before, TS posts anti-PS3 comments based around the smallest defects, this is his like the 18th time or so he has done this.

and yeah, just one dev makes one mistake on one game means a thread has to be opened up because of it.
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QUOTE(Hitman190 @ Jun 19 2009, 08:43 PM)
what spam?

we have been through this kind of thread before, TS posts anti-PS3 comments based around the smallest defects, this is his like the 18th time or so he has done this.

and yeah, just one dev makes one mistake on one game means a thread has to be opened up because of it.
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he's a new mod hitman, be gentle.. he still struggling to know what is happening here. LOL.

and for sniper, i agreed with u...Developers are like artists. Its up to them on how they want to paint. As simple as that. If the painting sucks, blaming the canvas is a sign of uber idiocy.
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 19 2009, 07:05 PM)
Just look at the Ghostbuster game......360 version much better then the PS3.  And many more...too much to list down.
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the content is the same, gameplay also the same..... just the gfx part not par btw console in minor details... also its dev 1st attempt on ps3, using their new engine.... (they used to be develop games for MS)

as to TS, third party support still do lag behind but they are improving...

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post Jun 19 2009, 09:17 PM

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check the wii game...it plays exactly like its PS3 and 360 counterparts in the sense that the gameplay mechanics are the same (the control however is different), the graphics are not nearly as good as the 360s or PS3s but what can be said is that its just as fun. Why is it that graphics are the only thing that is judged with a PS3 vs 360 scenario?

I own both consoles, i love them both and i loeve playing and talking about games from both communities. A true gamer is one that ignores such VS scenarios and plays games for what they are and what fun they will bring. If people contantly point out the mistakes made by a company, they are not gamers they are fanboys.
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+1 hitman
fanboys are always sucks.
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post Jun 19 2009, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(msn83235502 @ Jun 19 2009, 09:40 PM)
+1 hitman
fanboys are always sucks.
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