True to that,
Just like some FB that kept posting pics to downgrade certain consoles

*cough*
Dude, nobody care about race/sales, only exclusives /sarcasm

This post has been edited by Hisyam91: Jun 19 2009, 11:51 PM

Maybe i'm wrong about the PS3 as a console that is hard to develop for. I know nothing about programing. But what I do know is that third party games for PS3 has been poor in comparison to the 360...and that is a fact no one can deny. maybe the developer intentional dump down the game because MS paid them off? Maybe the developer is just too lazy? Maybe the developer is just lousy? Whatever the case, 3rd party titles on the PS3 is just not as good as the 360. You can choose to buy it on PS3 or the 360...its your money!

why all the PS3 hate all time man...i mean you are the only individual here in this whole forum to constantly open up threads that criticize the PS3...

none of the PS3 members do it to the 360 or Wii
none of the Wii members do it to the PS3 and 360
none of the 360 members it the PS3 and Wii

but you are the only one to do so...

he's not hating ps3.... just not feeling the same as ps2 era supremacy..

he wants all ps3 titles quality on par or above....hint at some of the developers...

This year looking at the list of games that are going to be released on ps3, sure pokai.... too many awesome titles...

This post has been edited by shahreza2000: Jun 20 2009, 02:45 AM

Right....

I wonder where were you during the PS2-Xbox-GC days.
I wonder where were you during the NES/Atari 2600 days.

Nothing to say about the ports back then? Just go take a brief look at the ports for the NES and 2600.
Infact there are games that don't even PLAY THE SAME despite the fact they HAVE THE SAME TITLE, SAME RELEASE DATE, and SAME ADVERTS.


Why so many games are poor in comparison to the 360 from the PS3? The engine that's being used.
Anyone with half a brain in the industry knows that 40% of the games out in the market utilizes the Unreal Engine 3. UE3 sucks bawls on the PS3, like it or not. Blame EPIC for creating a shitty ass engine that is hard to get working on the PS3.

Even Mark Rein himself admitted their engine wasn't properly built to begin with if used on the PS3. They are going through alot of improvements and optimization to bring that gap close for games using UE3.

Developers too lazy? While no doubt there definitely is a few which are just pure lazy. But you have no idea just how much work they put into a game. People like you take things for granted and do not know what has went down in the process of development for a game. Naive, pampered, kid you are.

LOL the first bold.
Well, there's Valve..
They even admit It's hard to develop for PS3,
Try looking it from their point of view,
More money, work and time spend to do it, but the result are still bad, so its understandable.

Cant say he's the only person Naive here
Dont work as developing game = do not know what has went down in the process.


Nope, you are right about that,

Try reading this Article,
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/busi...m=1245400825888

This post has been edited by Hisyam91: Jun 20 2009, 07:09 AM

seriously dude, if you have nothing to contribute, like facts etc, dont even bother posting. this kind of thread needs people that has been gaming at least from NES days. not somebody who still receive pocket money from daddy dearest. its like pot calling kettle black.

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then why so many good exclusives coming from PS3? Answer that. Like I said before, blaming the canvas when the painting sucks is pure idiocy.

all platforms have good games. good. just because some people cant afford one platfrom, they diss it oh I was talking about Valve



This post has been edited by snipersnake: Jun 20 2009, 07:13 AM

I thought I gave a link that prove a games company that said PS3 is hard to develop on
Why did you bring pocket money and my dad in here? What are you 9 year old?

That's easy,
Well, my opinion that is, might not be actually true.
Most exclusive has been support by Sony, either it's money or work.
Sony help them to polish the game.. simple right?
Lets see, KZ2 production cost is $21 million (from Gamespot, want link?)
And MS paid $50 million for GTA4 DLC..

From what I heard.. KZ2 sales are..
Oh wai-
That is soooo out-of-topic.

Still, I see a lot of developers that admit it's hard to develop games for PS3.

Pure idiocy? Niceee one
Weird about the second bold. Must be a 9 year'ol pointing out their own opinion without knowing the truth

This post has been edited by Hisyam91: Jun 20 2009, 07:28 AM

[quote=Hisyam91,Jun 20 2009, 07:20 AM]
I thought I gave a link that prove a games company that said PS3 is hard to develop on
Why did you bring pocket money and my dad in here? What are you 9 year old?
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did I said anything about YOU?

[quote]
That's easy,
Well, my opinion that is, might not be actually true.[/quote]
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
[quote]
Most exclusive has been support by Sony, either it's money or work.
Sony help them to polish the game.. simple right?[/quote]
any links?

[quote]Lets see, KZ2 production cost is $21 million (from Gamespot, want link?)
And MS paid $50 million for GTA4 DLC..[/quote]
Well, that proves money spins the world, like wanted by this someone

[quote=lulz,Jun 4 2009, 12:43 PM]
Source : N4g and G4



Well, it's FF..

Anyway, I wonder if MS succeed in getting it? That will be another slap for them

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[quote]
From what I heard.. KZ2 sales are..
Oh wai-
That is soooo out-of-topic.[/quote]
Good. So number of sales equals to good quality games
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Still, I see a lot of developers that admit it's hard to develop games for PS3.

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where?Kojima didnt, and so many people want their product

ah of to market, got a family to feed

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Pure idiocy? Niceee one
Weird about the second bold. Must be a 9 year'ol pointing out their own opinion without knowing the truth

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[quote]
all platforms have good games. good. just because some people cant afford one platfrom, they diss it oh I was talking about Valve

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Learn to read. You will need the skills when you go to higher institution of learning.Another advice from me, attack the idea, not the poster. Thats how you develop a mature debate.

This post has been edited by snipersnake: Jun 20 2009, 07:38 AM

Eh, I thought I posted that that picture,
Cant believe you take your time to find it and post it here *desperate*
Dude, repair your quote, it's hurting my eye.


Cant believe you miss the "My opinion"
But still, if you try google, you just "might" find some article about it.



Well, I do know number of sales = number of people that like the game

*ouch*
Chill man, it's a debate about a gaming console, it's not like it affect the surrounding.
Dont be soo serious la, it's a game.


This post has been edited by Hisyam91: Jun 20 2009, 07:51 AM

good, now learn the meaning of word = CONSIDER then the word CONFIRMED.

Links please

i am not supporting that cheapo lightning but i thought i should post this, since it was in the news on almost every gaming website.

eh? What link?
I prove my point about PS3 is hard to develop on(even post a link), what more do you want?
It's getting A and too much heat for me , it's a game man..
Sorry if I offended you mate.
Gonna visit N4g to kill some time, chill down aite

This post has been edited by Hisyam91: Jun 20 2009, 08:02 AM

Firstly, I admit I've never develop any games on PS3, but from what I know, the memory architecture and shader pipelines of both console make a huge difference in terms of engine development. Xbox360 utilizes unified memory architecture and unified shader model which means developer could just dump everything/anything into the memory/shader pipelines without micro-managing it. So, it is harder to code on PS3 for game developers who are developing their own engines.

That is why ikanayam always preach that Xbox360's Xenos is more DX10-ish than PS3's RSX.

Id say the best console to date is the xbox360 tons of exclusives,ps3 has just pick up the pace so we need to see who does well as GOW3 is coming soon FF13 is superb on the ps3 and the ultimate console seller GT5 will certainly boost ps3 sales tramendously. Xbox360 is great for its online services compared to PSN

The reason I point that PS3 isn't hard to code for is because, I haven't heard or seen a single first party or second party developer complaining.

Probably "hard" isn't the word here... but yes, there are various engines which utilizes unified shader models (Source and UE3) that runs like crap on the PS3's RSX. Thus I said, hard to port the code over. Games which are made on these engines aren't done on the PS3, they're either done on the PC primarily or on the PC. Now we all know how close of an arichitecture both the 360 and PC shares.

OH THANK YOU. I was looking for the right words for it
see..we all can discuss maturely without those name calling

Loser that insert some F words and private parts inside a comments =

Well, it's weird how it end up with first and second
I thought TS wrote about 3rd..

This post has been edited by Hisyam91: Jun 20 2009, 01:16 PM

I believe Ben meant 3rd

I dont think there are no such things as second party dev.

OR. maybe second party devs that build games that are exclusives, something like Kojima's MGS4 and Little Big Planet.

This post has been edited by snipersnake: Jun 20 2009, 01:21 PM

Correct me if im wrong,
But 1st are Sony Entertainment
2nd are like Kojima teams/MGS4/LBP/Insom/Guerilla??/Naughty Dog.
3rd most of the times, multiplatform developer.