M'sia version P42G10 seems like dun have THX certified...correct me if I'm wrong

biasa lah. 3rd world, we can lesser features. Yet, some are silly enough to cough double the price for it.

I'll give it one more day, and if there's no clear evidence about the fancy panel justifying the fancy price, I'll join the Kelab S10 ...

I checked again the S series yesterday in HN Ikano... It's slightly better than last time, maybe due to ambience light. But it is still grey, blur due to dual-layer glass, damned high reflections, serious chromatic distortions, etc. Why not check the LG PG30 series with definitely blacker screen, no chromatic issues and less reflection ... see for yourself. It's a better deal, only that some people are scared of Korean products, including myself.
The SA told me that the new generation Panasonic plasma panels are now sourced from LG. You heard of this?
I'm not comparing proton and BMW, I'm just wondering why Panasonic go cheap and low ... even lower than LG... you get more volume, but you lose some salutation of your products... ahaks!

This statement is wrong. Panasonic makes it own plasma panels.

42G10 is on display in 1U New Wing main concourse. Priced at RM6399 compared to 42S10 at RM3999. I spoke to one of the Panasonic representative and he said that the difference is not huge between both.

The joint electrical fair is organised by Best Denki.

let me guess, you are a LG plasma salesman and in your small world, you think by hitting at the Panasonic, more people would now buy LG.

At last, the shy G10 makes a public appearence!

mm.. Even their rep himself acknowledge the lack of difference? Then again, most sales reps are not AV enthusiasts. What about you, sailou? Whats yr opinion comparing the S10 with the G10?

I personally thinks that there will not be a much difference between the 2 panel. The Neo thing probably consume slightly less power and that is about it. In my opinion, the picture quality of todays tv is not like leaps and bound better then those of last year but rather of some subtle improvement. they might have slightly better contrast or brightness and that can easily miss that unless you do a side by side comparison.

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Added on June 29, 2009, 12:57 pmHmmm....is the S series pana still have very bad reflective screen? Shit....i 'm waiting for the 50" S series from pana and if the reflection is really bad, I might not want it. Can some owner shed some light on this issue.

This post has been edited by lightning69: Jun 29 2009, 12:57 PM

Yeah, I am now arriving to that conclusion, hence leaning towards the S10

you don't mind the reflection?

Sorry dude, I'm helping those in the budget. Have you checked in my other posts that I only approve Kuro Plasma TV. And I sold my car to buy the KRP-600M... enough said? I also said I didn't trust Korean products in my post. Read before you hentam.

you sold your car to buy a Kuro? Yes, that itself says everything abt you.

That explain why pioneer is not making plasma anymore.....can cost you a car just to get one!

the secret of Kuro is its dark filter and its electronics, nothing special otherwise.

its darker, because of dark filter. in fact, after Pioneer announced the death of Kuro, Panasonic officials made this public.
and if u take time to inspect closely, Kuro filter reflects purple color. It is dark for dark scenes, but u lost some fine details in the darkness. The G10 with THX or V10 with THX beats the Kuro in dark details, because u still can see some details, but on the Kuro, it is blurred.

and Kuro can't reach 1080 motion resolution. hmm. u can feel it is aged, because all new generation Panasonic full HD plasmas can do 1080 motion resolution prefectly. Kuros only do about 900.

This post has been edited by tennis_ball: Jul 3 2009, 03:56 PM

panasonic latest neopdp panel pwns old tech kuro then.... at 1/2 the price.

Hate to do this to you but, you need to get your facts straight.

Shadow details are related to correct gamma settings. A fully calibrated Pioneer can do a ruler flat gamma of 2.2 or even 2.5 because of its gamma controls. So this is not correct. You can always improve shadow details by reducing gamma to saay 1.8 (you will see things that are not intended for you to see). When you set the gamma wrongly you see additional shadow details but it is not intended by the director and then you will get washed out blacks.

It is your opinion but factually it is wrong. I am fine if you think the G or the V series is better to your eyes that any Kuro out there, you are entitled to your opinion but the fact that a Pioneer hides shadow detail is incorrect.

On your fact that the Kuros cannot do 1080 motion resolution, you are absolutely correct. The only problem is that it is highly unlikely that you can see the difference between 1080 lines of motion resolution and >800 lines of motion resolution.

On another note, the other strength of the Kuro is tightened plasma panel manufacturing. The panel is more accurate out of the box and the calibration options allow it to be almost dead on.

Let the Kuro RIP, it is dead and there will new plasmas/displays that will dethrone it in time. At the moment, there is none yet. Even the Z series from Panny does not as yet. I am pretty sure that in the next year, there will be a new King of fixed panel...

Also the people who prefer projectors will never agree that a fixed panel is anywhere new a CRT/DLP/LCD projector.

To each his own.

This post has been edited by anfieldude: Jul 3 2009, 04:34 PM

i really don't think reflection is that big of a problem with the s10, but it's all very subjective. i for one don't see any problems, but of course, that's because my living room is not as bright as the shop's AV showroom with lights everywhere. as it comes with the AR filter, it's even less reflective than my old CRT.

fuuyoh lucky taukeh anfieldude come and straighten things out, i almost got misleaden by that singaporean.

KURO FTW!

he's sifu level..