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Xtreamer (Media Player & Streamer), 1080p Full HD at 140 Euro
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ahpunk
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Aug 14 2009, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(yangxi @ Aug 13 2009, 08:16 PM) I don't want import such high end player. Malaysia custom suck blood. suka suka TAX !! Xtreamer - Realtek 1283 (Target on PVR) Hisense MP800H - Realtek 1073 (no DTSHD) Realtek chipset still have heat problem . what u meant by no DTSHD?
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wuanzi
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Aug 14 2009, 03:28 PM
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my unit is supposed to be shipped on 11 Aug and it is now still awaiting fulfillment. I wrote to them on 11th and they said that they would ship it out very soon. I think this company has a long way to go if they truly want to be one of the strongest competitors - especially for a company that mainly sells products over the internet. Fortunately I still have my sigma chipset for movie watching
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yangxi
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Aug 14 2009, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE(ahpunk @ Aug 14 2009, 03:26 PM) what u meant by no DTSHD? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DTS-HD_Master_Audiocan't play DTS-HD sound.
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ar188
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Aug 14 2009, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE(yangxi @ Aug 13 2009, 08:16 PM) I don't want import such high end player. Malaysia custom suck blood. suka suka TAX !! Xtreamer - Realtek 1283 (Target on PVR) Hisense MP800H - Realtek 1073 (no DTSHD) Realtek chipset still have heat problem . Audio pass through : DTS, Dolby Digital, DTS-HD MA, DTS-HD HR, Dolby True HD, Dolby Digital Plusaccording to the above spec, even the streamer 1283 chip set can't decode DTS-HD/MA.. only can pass thro.. if you do get audio sound, that's the core DTS track, and not the HD track.. cheers.
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wuanzi
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Aug 19 2009, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 14 2009, 07:20 PM) Audio pass through : DTS, Dolby Digital, DTS-HD MA, DTS-HD HR, Dolby True HD, Dolby Digital Plusaccording to the above spec, even the streamer 1283 chip set can't decode DTS-HD/MA.. only can pass thro.. if you do get audio sound, that's the core DTS track, and not the HD track.. cheers. sorry need to ask a bit more :when you say pass through - it means you use an AVamp to decode and output the sound right - then will we still get HD audio if the amp is HDaudio capable? but if we just connect the player directly to TV - even if the player is capable of decoding HD audio, the TV speaker can output such HD effect? or, should we say - if the TV can output sound - it is because the player could "downmix"? thanks Added on August 19, 2009, 2:56 pmBy the way, I just noticed that on the xtreamer official site - the "offer till 1 Aug 09" is no longer there - instead, the price remains as EU99+EU0 for the player+ Antenna, guess this is the price range that is most acceptable by consumers (given the fact that they don't give HDMI cable) This post has been edited by wuanzi: Aug 19 2009, 02:56 PM
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adamw
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Aug 19 2009, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(wuanzi @ Aug 19 2009, 02:47 PM) sorry need to ask a bit more :when you say pass through - it means you use an AVamp to decode and output the sound right - then will we still get HD audio if the amp is HDaudio capable? but if we just connect the player directly to TV - even if the player is capable of decoding HD audio, the TV speaker can output such HD effect? or, should we say - if the TV can output sound - it is because the player could "downmix"? thanks For DTS-HD the HDMI must be HDMI 1.3 standard & connected to an AV amp so if you connect the player direct to TV HDMI, you'll only have stereo downmix, no HD effect or whatsoever!
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wuanzi
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Aug 19 2009, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(adamw @ Aug 19 2009, 02:59 PM) For DTS-HD the HDMI must be HDMI 1.3 standard & connected to an AV amp so if you connect the player direct to TV HDMI, you'll only have stereo downmix, no HD effect or whatsoever! Thanks a lot Adam for clearing that - if that's the case, what yangxi said "can't play DTSHD sound" is not entirely correct and misleading. This statement is so confusing that it almost misled me into thinking that I have made a wrong decision to purchase Xtreamer. What I have is a DTSHD enabled amp, even if Xtreamer cannot decode HD audio , as long as it can do a pass-through, my amp will take over the decoding work. Also, demanding HDaudio output is a strange requirement for those who directly connect this player to their TV because even if Xtreamer does decode HD audio I don't think TVs can produce HD sound effect, however, it is then important that Xtreamer must be able to downmix DTS so that TVs can produce sound. Thanks again Adam for giving us a complete picture of who should be more concerned about whether Xtreamer can do a pass-through (for those with AV amps) and downmix (for those who connect the player directly with TV) , appreciated it!
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adamw
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Aug 19 2009, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(wuanzi @ Aug 19 2009, 03:44 PM) Thanks a lot Adam for clearing that - if that's the case, what yangxi said "can't play DTSHD sound" is not entirely correct and misleading. This statement is so confusing that it almost misled me into thinking that I have made a wrong decision to purchase Xtreamer. What I have is a DTSHD enabled amp, even if Xtreamer cannot decode HD audio , as long as it can do a pass-through, my amp will take over the decoding work. Also, demanding HDaudio output is a strange requirement for those who directly connect this player to their TV because even if Xtreamer does decode HD audio I don't think TVs can produce HD sound effect, however, it is then important that Xtreamer must be able to downmix DTS so that TVs can produce sound. Thanks again Adam for giving us a complete picture of who should be more concerned about whether Xtreamer can do a pass-through (for those with AV amps) and downmix (for those who connect the player directly with TV) , appreciated it!  You are welcome, DTS-HD will need to connect the HDMI to AV AMP & then only connect the HDMI from AV AMP to TV. As for the xtreamer, you better read this first http://forum.xtreamer.net/viewtopic.php?f=...6e556e&start=10Seems they really have problem with DTS-HD.
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wuanzi
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Aug 19 2009, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(adamw @ Aug 19 2009, 04:00 PM) You are welcome, DTS-HD will need to connect the HDMI to AV AMP & then only connect the HDMI from AV AMP to TV. As for the xtreamer, you better read this first http://forum.xtreamer.net/viewtopic.php?f=...6e556e&start=10Seems they really have problem with DTS-HD. yup! read that before and constantly monitoring the progress but I remain hopeful as it is the potential that I see in this player (given that price-range). I happened to also own a HDX1000 - initially it could not even downmix DTX - just like WDTV, it has since upgraded its firmware just a month ago to fully support DTS - we can also choose "raw" output in the audio setting to let the Amp do the decoding. Since Xtreamer displays this capacibility (pass through) in their ads (I think European countries have a harder enforcement on false claims) I think that's only a matter of time that they will release a firmware update to realise it.
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gocitygo
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Aug 19 2009, 08:24 PM
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Brader sekalian, what is your shipment status? Mine still awaiting fulfillment. Sipet chialat company. Look like volcano eruption @ Xtreamer forum  Still undecided mau-tak-mau cancel my order.
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yupio
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Aug 19 2009, 09:03 PM
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mine's the same as well...awaiting fulfillment, haih....supposed to ship on 1/8 tomorrow is already 20/8 their delay really make me dumbfounded and i thought its their pre-launch special.....a new company with its product of this potential...don't u think would be wasted on such terrible quality of service for a start.
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robinlim
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Aug 19 2009, 10:27 PM
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I just sent an e-mail to f them kaw kaw they sent me a standard reply stating that all the 2nd batch are already at the distribution center and ready to ship 3rd batch will follow suit after 1 week dunno whether this is another ploy to hold on our purchases This post has been edited by robinlim: Aug 19 2009, 10:27 PM
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ar188
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Aug 19 2009, 10:35 PM
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relax lah.... give them a month or 2, sure can sort out wan
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gocitygo
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Aug 20 2009, 07:06 AM
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IMO, they got great product and firmware support. But the screw up order fulfillment process & lousy customer service causing a great deal to their new brand image. I believe potential buyer will steer off for now and competitor will laughing until ...
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geforce1999
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Aug 20 2009, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE(gocitygo @ Aug 19 2009, 08:24 PM) Brader sekalian, what is your shipment status? Mine still awaiting fulfillment. Sipet chialat company. Look like volcano eruption @ Xtreamer forum  Still undecided mau-tak-mau cancel my order. I just cancelled my order yesterday evening as there is no confirmation on when they will be shipping out my order. Also recently there are more and more model/choice coming out for us to pick with same if not better functionality...
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pierreye
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Aug 20 2009, 09:36 AM
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I'll give another week before cancelling my order. Really tu lan waiting for more than 1 month. iPhone 3Gs from Maxis also the same. Been registered on 31st July but have to wait until end of this month.
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yangxi
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Aug 20 2009, 09:59 AM
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my realtek 1073 player coming soon ^.^ (online tv +dts) Manual: http://sites.google.com/site/yangximusic/Home/H16-1073.pdf
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anfieldude
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Aug 20 2009, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE(pierreye @ Aug 20 2009, 09:36 AM) I'll give another week before cancelling my order. Really tu lan waiting for more than 1 month. iPhone 3Gs from Maxis also the same. Been registered on 31st July but have to wait until end of this month. There seems to be a worldwide delay of Realtek chips...hence the delays. Even the Sigma chipset is low in supply thats why a lot of the media players (Dune, AC Ryan, Xtreamer) are delayed.
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ar188
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Aug 20 2009, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Aug 20 2009, 11:55 AM) There seems to be a worldwide delay of Realtek chips...hence the delays. Even the Sigma chipset is low in supply thats why a lot of the media players (Dune, AC Ryan, Xtreamer) are delayed. business is good.. even toyotas cant built enuf prius 3g cos production limation of critical hybrid parts like Inverter and battery parts..
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yupio
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Aug 20 2009, 01:06 PM
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economic downturn doesn't seem to weaken the buying power ha.
On the Xtreamer, delay is fine but at least specify the period of delay instead of keeping us in suspense duh.
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