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post Jun 13 2009, 11:21 AM

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a half-hearted attempt I would say

but with the rise in the number of PS3 owners I don't see why they are being silly of not doing enough marketing work, I mean, come' on we all know that the gaming industry is very lucrative.
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post Jun 13 2009, 12:50 PM

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this is malaysia. you expect those uneducated buffons to know anything about marketing? if they did their homework, the ps3 would have launched the same time as singapore and the local psn store would have the ability to use credit cards as payment by now.
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QUOTE(nwk @ Jun 13 2009, 12:50 PM)
this is malaysia. you expect those uneducated buffons to know anything about marketing? if they did their homework, the ps3 would have launched the same time as singapore and the local psn store would have the ability to use credit cards as payment by now.
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regarding the credit card thingy, I would say its actually part of our fault. Malaysia is synonymous with credit card fraud. Maybe Sony is playing it safe.
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Jun 13 2009, 12:52 PM)
regarding the credit card thingy, I would say its actually part of our fault. Malaysia is synonymous with credit card fraud. Maybe Sony is playing it safe.
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credit card fraud happens everywhere jo....doesnt matter which country you are in
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post Jun 13 2009, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(nwk @ Jun 13 2009, 12:50 PM)
this is malaysia. you expect those uneducated buffons to know anything about marketing? if they did their homework, the ps3 would have launched the same time as singapore and the local psn store would have the ability to use credit cards as payment by now.
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I would say they have a problem with their business strategy, not marketing. They do know how to make some hype.. like the launch of ps3. but problem is... their strategy suck you know what i mean?

they do all that.. but have limited stocks of PS3 during launch

they do all this.. but you can't pay by credit card.


it seems their supply is so limited they can't keep up with their marketing and obviously its either a failure with their plan on strategy or execution of their strategy. If they can't supply to demand then don't make the announcement that they are releasing. ruin their own image.

hope they see this. because i think they still haven't notice wats wrong so far.. no wonder Xbox 360 beats them worldwide.
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post Jun 13 2009, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(MistaFattah @ Jun 12 2009, 04:05 PM)
went there already, and guess what? they have the MY PSN Card (100rm) and I bought it. and they said i'm the 1st customer in Msia to buy this thing.  lol rclxms.gif
and here's some of the MY PSN Card pictures...

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picture a little bit blur. cheers everyone
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laughing at those who complaint about no MY PSN card...congrats on being the first guy who put these people to shame..

QUOTE(nwk @ Jun 13 2009, 12:50 PM)
this is malaysia. you expect those uneducated buffons to know anything about marketing? if they did their homework, the ps3 would have launched the same time as singapore and the local psn store would have the ability to use credit cards as payment by now.
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the ones who are planning the marketing strategy for malaysia market are sony, u called sony employers uneducated? u're dead wrong..
Sony delayed their launch in Malaysia because they need to do a deeper marketing research in order to bring the console to malaysia, since PS2 didnt officially launched in malaysia, they dont have a strong marketing base for malaysian market.

unlike Sg or US, obviously they already know how the market goes, thats why they can launch the console right away...

QUOTE(Remedy @ Jun 13 2009, 05:39 PM)
I would say they have a problem with their business strategy, not marketing. They do know how to make some hype.. like the launch of ps3. but problem is... their strategy suck you know what i mean?

they do all that.. but have limited stocks of PS3 during launch

they do all this.. but you can't pay by credit card.
it seems their supply is so limited they can't keep up with their marketing and obviously its either a failure with their plan on strategy or execution of their strategy. If they can't supply to demand then don't make the announcement that they are releasing. ruin their own image.

hope they see this. because i think they still haven't notice wats wrong so far.. no wonder Xbox 360 beats them worldwide.
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as far as i remember Microsoft didnt even bother about malaysian market, and u are dead wrong about sony unable to keep with the demand, cause CURRENTLY u can practically buy a PS3 in any game shop/sony shop in malaysia.

About the credit card thingy, they do this because of the current economy crisis, and during these situations, most people will reduce their credit card expenditure due to shortage of income and to adjust their expenditure during these dire situations...


its easy to see people who dont know anything about business and marketing and yet they comment as if they know it all... laugh.gif

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went to my sony style shop (Kuching, Sarawak) today to check on the PSN cards. they told me that the market isn't happy with the rm110 price their forced to charge by Sony. So they wont be releasing it here just yet. Trying to get it down to RM100 before bringing them over. So no luck just yet for Sarawak gamers.
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post Jun 13 2009, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Jun 13 2009, 07:01 PM)
laughing at those who complaint about no MY PSN card...congrats on being the first guy who put these people to shame..
the ones who are planning the marketing strategy for malaysia market are sony, u called sony employers uneducated? u're dead wrong..
Sony delayed their launch in Malaysia because they need to do a deeper marketing research in order to bring the console to malaysia, since PS2 didnt officially launched in malaysia, they dont have a strong marketing base for malaysian market.

unlike Sg or US, obviously they already know how the market goes, thats why they can launch the console right away...
as far as i remember Microsoft didnt even bother about malaysian market, and u are dead wrong about sony unable to keep with the demand, cause CURRENTLY u can practically buy a PS3 in any game shop/sony shop in malaysia.

About the credit card thingy, they do this because of the current economy crisis, and during these situations, most people will reduce their credit card expenditure due to shortage of income and to adjust their expenditure during these dire situations...
its easy to see people who dont know anything about business and marketing and yet they comment as if they know it all... laugh.gif
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People complain of no PSN Cards because its no where to be found other than the first guy who went to the MV event and get it after asking about it specifically. If the cards were distributed to most retailers and ready before the launch, people wouldn't make a fuss of it. Take PS3 games for example, they would have shipped them to the retailers before the official launch date (also considering the fact PSN Cards are the ONLY way to top up credits). Anyway you need check your facts before slamming..

On your second comment... yes.. CURRENTLY we can practically buy a PS3 in any shop in Malaysia but i guess you are a bit lost here... we are talking about the availability of product during launch... not AFTER launch. Everyone can get their product ready months after launch. your answer doesn't prove a point. Anyway please check your facts again on the availability of PS3 during the first few days after the launch... is it available in any game shop/sony shop in malaysia?

Having an option to pay by credit card doesn't force everyone to pay by credit card, its a way to do business by providing their customers with more options to make purchases no? (so should everyone stop offering Credit Card purchase now?). I am no businessman or a person who analyses the market but just a simple.. consumer smile.gif You could say we don't know anything bout business and marketing but i can clearly see there is a pretty hopeless person here trying to understand whats needed by a consumer.

Are you a sony employee ? sounds like you would like to slam at any negative remarks people make here in this thread as if you know everything thats happening. grow up laugh.gif

QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Jun 13 2009, 07:01 PM)
its easy to see people who dont know anything about business and marketing and yet they comment as if they know it all... laugh.gif
Please don't judge other people if you don't want them to judge you.

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QUOTE(Remedy @ Jun 13 2009, 10:39 PM)
People complain of no PSN Cards because its no where to be found other than the first guy who went to the MV event and get it after asking about it specifically. If the cards were distributed to most retailers and ready before the launch, people wouldn't make a fuss of it. Take PS3 games for example, they would have shipped them to the retailers before the official launch date (also considering the fact PSN Cards are the ONLY way to top up credits). Anyway you need check your facts before slamming..

On your second comment... yes.. CURRENTLY we can practically buy a PS3 in any shop in Malaysia but i guess you are a bit lost here... we are talking about the availability of product during launch... not AFTER launch. Everyone can get their product ready months after launch. your answer doesn't prove a point. Anyway please check your facts again on the availability of PS3 during the first few days after the launch... is it available in any game shop/sony shop in malaysia?

Having an option to pay by credit card doesn't force everyone to pay by credit card, its a way to do business by providing their customers with more options to make purchases no? (so should everyone stop offering Credit Card purchase now?). I am no businessman or a person who analyses the market but just a simple.. consumer smile.gif You could say we don't know anything bout business and marketing but i can clearly see there is a pretty hopeless person here trying to understand whats needed by a consumer.

Are you a sony employee ? sounds like you would like to slam at any negative remarks people make here in this thread as if you know everything thats happening.  grow up
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FIRST: im a college student, not a sony employee. Do i speak like a working people? that means im well on my way towards employability laugh.gif

Second: when u talk about product availability during launch, it is ridiculous to overstock ur products during the launch event, since the cost of the event itself will increase just because of stocking tongue.gif .. i dont need to check my facts or whatsoever, since some people here wont understand why there is shortage or why business need time to make a product available, they just complaint why it is too late, why it is not available and no patience at all. Oh, i buy my Ps3 console before the official PS3 launch, so u still wanna complaint about product availability?

Third: No body are saying that sony is going to stick with its no credit card payments ohmy.gif , what im trying to say is that currently it might not be advisable because of current economy status, where people are using less of their credit cards(get it??) Plus, do you think they can simply make credit card option to be available without putting more money on credit card service?? and then not enough customers use it to cover the cost of running the system?? ohmy.gif

Maybe MY PSN will have Credit Card payment in the future, we'll never know.. The thing is, some people here cant appreciate what Sony has done for the malaysian console gamers, this is the first time where a console developer ever taken notice of malaysian console market, and MY PSN launch should be a positive mark for malaysian gaming industry.

Fourth:U cant compare availability of PSN card with the availability of PS3 games in malaysia, since MY PSN card are only for MY PSN, which requires them to wait for official launch of MY PSN before selling stuff, again i dont need to check my facts, it is actually a basic for business people to check the market first before selling it blindly, sure malaysia may get later launch date and whatnot, but what im trying to say is that give them a chance..dont simply complain this and that without knowing the real reason behind it.


Fifth: The reason why im trying to correct those who give negative comments is that they always say we get this problem because this is malaysia, or malaysian people are slow to make it available , which to me are all pessimist comments. doh.gif . Praising other country advantages wont get you nowhere unless u support your own country. EVEN NOW, when sony actually launch MY PSN, they still complain doh.gif , sure the prices are expensive, but at least we have our own MY PSN..why not support it? and make it grow? show to Sony that malaysian gamers support these services, and not take it for granted. icon_idea.gif

please, gamers, be positive, support our local gaming industry, give constructive comments and not comments that puts our people to shame like comments that shows that malaysian people are pessimist and not supportive..i think we're lucky to even see official MY PSN launch during these dire Economy crisis, since most companies nowadays are trying to save cost by firing workers and closing departments..

*too much haters, no supporters, if this thing keeps on going, i wont be shocked if they decided to close MY PSN in the future*

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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Jun 13 2009, 11:31 PM)
*too much haters, no supporters, it this thing keeps on going, i wont be shocked if they decided to close MY PSN in the future*
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2nd on ya bro...really agree on ya...should give them time i think...some people just love to complains a lot... rolleyes.gif
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we consider lucky enuff to even have PSN MY .. next hopefully will be PSN Home
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post Jun 14 2009, 01:53 AM

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They just opened the store and expect it to be on par with the others?

give some time la, shld be thankful they even consider us to open the store here

afterall its just “Malaysia“ blush.gif
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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Jun 13 2009, 11:31 PM)
FIRST: im a college student, not a sony employee. Do i speak like a working people? that means im well on my way towards enjoyability laugh.gif

Second: when u talk about product availability during launch, it is ridiculous to overstock ur products during the launch event, since the cost of the event itself will increase just because of stocking tongue.gif .. i dont need to check my facts or whatsoever, since some people here wont understand why there is shortage or why business need time to make a product available, they just complaint why it is too late, why it is not available and no patience at all. Oh, i buy my Ps3 console before the official PS3 launch, so u still wanna complaint about product availability?

Third: No body are saying that sony is going to stick with its no credit card payments ohmy.gif , what im trying to say is that currently it might not be advisable because of current economy status, where people are using less of their credit cards(get it??) Plus, do you think they can simply make credit card option to be available without putting more money on credit card service?? and then not enough customers use it to cover the cost of running the system?? ohmy.gif

Maybe MY PSN will have Credit Card payment in the future, we'll never know.. The thing is, some people here cant appreciate what Sony has done for the malaysian console gamers, this is the first time where a console developer ever taken notice of malaysian console market, and MY PSN launch should be a positive mark for malaysian gaming industry.

Fourth:U cant compare availability of PSN card with the availability of PS3 games in malaysia, since MY PSN card are only for MY PSN, which requires them to wait for official launch of MY PSN before selling stuff, again i dont need to check my facts, it is actually a basic for business people to check the market first before selling it blindly, sure malaysia may get later launch date and whatnot, but what im trying to say is that give them a chance..dont simply complain this and that without knowing the real reason behind it.
Fifth: The reason why im trying to correct those who give negative comments is that they always say we get this problem because this is malaysia, or malaysian people are slow to make it available , which to me are all pessimist comments. doh.gif . Praising other country advantages wont get you nowhere unless u support your own country. EVEN NOW, when sony actually launch MY PSN, they still complain doh.gif , sure the prices are expensive, but at least we have our own MY PSN..why not support it? and make it grow? show to Sony that malaysian gamers support these services, and not take it for granted. icon_idea.gif

please, gamers, be positive, support our local gaming industry, give constructive comments and not comments that puts our people to shame like comments that shows that malaysian people are pessimist and not supportive..i think we're lucky to even see official MY PSN launch during these dire Economy crisis, since most companies nowadays are trying to save cost by firing workers and closing departments..

*too much haters, no supporters, it this thing keeps on going, i wont be shocked if they decided to close MY PSN in the future*
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agreed

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considering sony receives money from developers thanks to whatever we download,i'd say they're not losing that much in the grand scheme of things.

if im not mistaken,for every 1GB we download,developers (or was it publishers?) have to pay sony 16 cents or something.

not sure if it only covers demos or videos as well,though hmm.gif
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actually...consumer support comes after an agreeable price. the relationship stands two ways, Sony offering a suitable pricing and Malaysian PS3 owners translate the support into purchases. Yes we are lucky Sony officially supports Malaysia now. I agree there. But they must also play their part by offering us products with suitable price tag.

Why did this happen? I would blame the marketing team. They should have at least compared their price tags with global PSN Store. I am sure Sony are well aware that all of us here are US or SG/HK PSN customers, making us aware of the pricing structure. Then a suitable study should have been conducted. All I am saying is, its a job well done for Sony to acknowledge us, but to be fair, they have to acknowledge our market awareness as well.


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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Jun 13 2009, 11:31 PM)
FIRST: im a college student, not a sony employee. Do i speak like a working people? that means im well on my way towards enjoyability laugh.gif

Second: when u talk about product availability during launch, it is ridiculous to overstock ur products during the launch event, since the cost of the event itself will increase just because of stocking tongue.gif .. i dont need to check my facts or whatsoever, since some people here wont understand why there is shortage or why business need time to make a product available, they just complaint why it is too late, why it is not available and no patience at all. Oh, i buy my Ps3 console before the official PS3 launch, so u still wanna complaint about product availability?

Third: No body are saying that sony is going to stick with its no credit card payments ohmy.gif , what im trying to say is that currently it might not be advisable because of current economy status, where people are using less of their credit cards(get it??) Plus, do you think they can simply make credit card option to be available without putting more money on credit card service?? and then not enough customers use it to cover the cost of running the system?? ohmy.gif

Maybe MY PSN will have Credit Card payment in the future, we'll never know.. The thing is, some people here cant appreciate what Sony has done for the malaysian console gamers, this is the first time where a console developer ever taken notice of malaysian console market, and MY PSN launch should be a positive mark for malaysian gaming industry.

Fourth:U cant compare availability of PSN card with the availability of PS3 games in malaysia, since MY PSN card are only for MY PSN, which requires them to wait for official launch of MY PSN before selling stuff, again i dont need to check my facts, it is actually a basic for business people to check the market first before selling it blindly, sure malaysia may get later launch date and whatnot, but what im trying to say is that give them a chance..dont simply complain this and that without knowing the real reason behind it.
Fifth: The reason why im trying to correct those who give negative comments is that they always say we get this problem because this is malaysia, or malaysian people are slow to make it available , which to me are all pessimist comments. doh.gif . Praising other country advantages wont get you nowhere unless u support your own country. EVEN NOW, when sony actually launch MY PSN, they still complain doh.gif , sure the prices are expensive, but at least we have our own MY PSN..why not support it? and make it grow? show to Sony that malaysian gamers support these services, and not take it for granted. icon_idea.gif

please, gamers, be positive, support our local gaming industry, give constructive comments and not comments that puts our people to shame like comments that shows that malaysian people are pessimist and not supportive..i think we're lucky to even see official MY PSN launch during these dire Economy crisis, since most companies nowadays are trying to save cost by firing workers and closing departments..

*too much haters, no supporters, it this thing keeps on going, i wont be shocked if they decided to close MY PSN in the future*
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Just to keep this short before it gets longer and longer... i'll summarize what you are trying to say so far is to advice us.. the gamers and consumer of sony ps3 to give them a breathing and at least be thankful for what we are getting.

I totally agree. The fact that PS3 and PSN is available here is already a blessing. However... point since earlier posting is given the fact they are releasing something.. at least release it and show some means of where ppl could start getting it. Ever since the launch of PS3 and now PSN.. we wanted to support SONY, wanted to get our hands to top up it now.. but.. which partner shops is offering it?? could they be clear and supply stocks to them? There is a difference between no stocks and out of stocks.

As for PSN card availability.. CC can be offered later, yes.. they might need more time to setup the CC systems and etc. So if that leaves PSN as the only option, shouldn't that be made more easily available? or at least show us some indication that when its available out of KL? I don't mind its a bit more expensive than other countries.. i'll get it anyway to show the support.

Negative feedback is not always a bad thing, its something we take into conderation to gauge improvements. If all comments are positive, what is needed to improve? smile.gif


QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Jun 13 2009, 11:31 PM)
FIRST: im a college student, not a sony employee. Do i speak like a working people? that means im well on my way towards enjoyability laugh.gif
I think you find it as an achievement to feel that you typed like a working people.. I felt that quite amusing ... and as a matter of fact my last question was to mean if you aren't a sony employee don't speak as if you know their plans. We all don't know.. but it felt kinda funny when you respond as if you know the market and business strategy of sony better than anyone here.


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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Jun 14 2009, 06:29 AM)
actually...consumer support comes after an agreeable price. the relationship stands two ways, Sony offering a suitable pricing and Malaysian PS3 owners translate the support into purchases. Yes we are lucky Sony officially supports Malaysia now. I agree there. But they must also play their part by offering us products with suitable price tag.

Why did this happen? I would blame the marketing team. They should have at least compared their price tags with global PSN Store. I am sure Sony are well aware that all of us here are US or SG/HK PSN customers, making us aware of the pricing structure. Then a suitable study should have been conducted. All I am saying is, its a job well done for Sony to acknowledge us, but to be fair, they have to acknowledge our market awareness as well.
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I'm just assuming but I'm sure sony has done their homework and tried to bring the price as low as possible? maybe they're at the point where they can only make minimal profit at the moment due to all the costs they have to pay? and maybe additional taxes.

I doubt they're that dumb la. People swearing and cursing at them like they're so dumb and they should pass their job over to the players in the forum lol. But the prob is most of us only know what's happening at the surface and nothing else. I wonder if we can do a better job than what they are already doing. I'm sure many among them involved in the msian ps store are gamers themselves and i'm sure there have been a lot of debates but that's what they can do so far and we should just be thankful. Support them more and i'm pretty sure the price will drop.

It's a huge step for sony malaysia actually. Especially since pirated stuff dominates over here.
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QUOTE(Remedy @ Jun 14 2009, 12:39 PM)
Just to keep this short before it gets longer and longer... i'll summarize what you are trying to say so far is to advice us.. the gamers and consumer of sony ps3 to give them a breathing and at least be thankful for what we are getting.

I totally agree. The fact that PS3 and PSN is available here is already a blessing. However... point since earlier posting is given the fact they are releasing something.. at least release it and show some means of where ppl could start getting it. Ever since the launch of PS3 and now PSN.. we wanted to support SONY, wanted to get our hands to top up it now.. but.. which partner shops is offering it?? could they be clear and supply stocks to them? There is a difference between no stocks and out of stocks.

As for PSN card availability.. CC can be offered later, yes.. they might need more time to setup the CC systems and etc. So if that leaves PSN as the only option, shouldn't that be made more easily available? or at least show us some indication that when its available out of KL? I don't mind its a bit more expensive than other countries.. i'll get it anyway to show the support.

Negative feedback is not always a bad thing, its something we take into conderation to gauge improvements. If all comments are positive, what is needed to improve? smile.gif
I think you find it as an achievement to feel that you typed like a working people.. I felt that quite amusing ... and as a matter of fact my last question was to mean if you aren't a sony employee don't speak as if you know their plans. We all don't know.. but it felt kinda funny when you respond as if you know the market and business strategy of sony better than anyone here.
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i like the bolded one and as an example, taken from my Facebook news:
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some of them have that kind of concern over stateside...
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i want to support , truly , i was at the check out page , BAM , no cc option. ok laa what to do . go to sg psn , oh hye can buy it there straight away. psn MY just lost 1 sale today because of that. hows that for your f u c k i n g market research .
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no use complaining here bro... doh.gif

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