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post Jun 9 2009, 01:17 AM

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haha everyone is so annoyed with Mas PSN.

QUOTE(MasterAlvin @ Jun 9 2009, 12:30 AM)
isnt FF7 international comes with both languages?
i used to have FF8 and FF10 international and both of them can change to english.

i prefer Jap voice over though, the quality is just way above.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jun 9 2009, 12:32 AM)
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Since when FF7 has voice over?
And FFX International doesn't have jap voice over.

And FF7 was before Squaresoft actually thought of going global... like for real.
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QUOTE(Zeliard @ Jun 9 2009, 12:37 AM)
i don't think the facts are right. if you really own ff8 and ff10, you would have noticed that ff8 has no voiceovers.
ff10 international is fully in english, japanese text.
if our gov can even consider building a circuit for our rempit, why can't they build a centre for piracy hub??
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i meant the game dialogs can be changed between english and japanese. my PS1 days are so far behind i dun really remember much of it.

haha pardon me for being confusing. i wasnt refering to FF7 on my last line.
i was actually refusing to RPGs as a whole.
it was a spontaneous line.
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post Jun 9 2009, 04:22 AM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jun 9 2009, 01:02 AM)
Upscaled 1080p.
Looksy yummy. The "jaggies" are so sharp that they look ironically look good! biggrin.gif
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I bought FF7 from the US PSN... There are definitely no HD graphics. The only thing 'new' is the generic PS Smoothing that you can apply to all PS1 games (from the PS2 days). Even faster disc loading speed isn't there. But heck, it's wonderful to play FF7 again, even if the graphics are crap nowadays. The non linear, dialogue with everyone gameplay is sorely missed. FFX kinda pushed the FF series in a different direction. I preferred FF7 - 9 if you asked me. Oops, I'm digressing.

Oh, and you can't use the analogue stick to control your character. D-pad only. I don't think there's vibration (since there's no analogue).




My thoughts on MY PSN Store (haha pun):

MY PSN has no support for credit cards, and that means I won't be buying anything from it, regardless of price. Using my sister's credit card, I can use Entropay for US PSN (cheap and English), or buy straight from SG PSN (for R3 game addons). Best of both worlds.

One more thing. Dunno if any of you noticed this, but MY PSN doesn't have exactly the same content as SG or HK PSN. Go to the disc-based addons and you'll notice that not all the games that support DLC are there (e.g. Burnout Paradise). This means that content-wise MY PSN Store is not up to standards, even if you ignore its outrageous pricing.

I understand why the prices are so ridiculously high (import taxes, conversion rates, etc.), and why PS1 games are in Japanese (Malaysia is under SCE Asia, which during the PS1 and PS2 days meant solely NTSC-J games - ONLY Japanese games for countries in Asia - region policies and laws prevent those content from transcending regions even now; only with the launch of PS3 did the Asian region (R3) come about with English games but Chinese manuals).

It is unfortunate, however, that there is really no reason for me to have anything to do with the MY PSN Store unless they started a video store (which is HIGHLY unlikely - not enough demand, costs too much to implement, plus the prices with tax and bla bla would make it unfeasible).

It really is a pity that I can't support something local without having to go out on a limb (i.e. no credit card payment, incomplete DLC library, much higher pricing, and no exclusively Malaysian incentives).

This post has been edited by Dinghydoggy: Jun 9 2009, 04:27 AM
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post Jun 9 2009, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(Dinghydoggy @ Jun 9 2009, 04:22 AM)
I bought FF7 from the US PSN... There are definitely no HD graphics. The only thing 'new' is the generic PS Smoothing that you can apply to all PS1 games (from the PS2 days). Even faster disc loading speed isn't there. But heck, it's wonderful to play FF7 again, even if the graphics are crap nowadays. The non linear, dialogue with everyone gameplay is sorely missed. FFX kinda pushed the FF series in a different direction. I preferred FF7 - 9 if you asked me. Oops, I'm digressing.

Oh, and you can't use the analogue stick to control your character. D-pad only. I don't think there's vibration (since there's no analogue).

                                                                                                                                                               
My thoughts on MY PSN Store (haha pun):

MY PSN has no support for credit cards, and that means I won't be buying anything from it, regardless of price. Using my sister's credit card, I can use Entropay for US PSN (cheap and English), or buy straight from SG PSN (for R3 game addons). Best of both worlds.

One more thing. Dunno if any of you noticed this, but MY PSN doesn't have exactly the same content as SG or HK PSN. Go to the disc-based addons and you'll notice that not all the games that support DLC are there (e.g. Burnout Paradise). This means that content-wise MY PSN Store is not up to standards, even if you ignore its outrageous pricing.

I understand why the prices are so ridiculously high (import taxes, conversion rates, etc.), and why PS1 games are in Japanese (Malaysia is under SCE Asia, which during the PS1 and PS2 days meant solely NTSC-J games - ONLY Japanese games for countries in Asia - region policies and laws prevent those content from transcending regions even now; only with the launch of PS3 did the Asian region (R3) come about with English games but Chinese manuals).

It is unfortunate, however, that there is really no reason for me to have anything to do with the MY PSN Store unless they started a video store (which is HIGHLY unlikely - not enough demand, costs too much to implement, plus the prices with tax and bla bla would make it unfeasible).

It really is a pity that I can't support something local without having to go out on a limb (i.e. no credit card payment, incomplete DLC library, much higher pricing, and no exclusively Malaysian incentives).
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post Jun 9 2009, 10:37 AM

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post Jun 9 2009, 10:39 AM

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at least the ps3 psn games are all in english
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post Jun 9 2009, 10:41 AM

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post Jun 9 2009, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(nwk @ Jun 8 2009, 07:39 PM)
price high because of corrupt BN government tax. don't screw sony. screw the corrupt BN government.
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Yup...typical gamers reply... rclxub.gif


QUOTE(nwk @ Jun 8 2009, 09:22 PM)
i have asked someone before from sony style at the curve why their game prices are so high. he told me that sony have to pay government tax on every game they bring in. so that's the reason why their game price is high and that is probably also why their price on psn is also high.
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Blaming tax is pretty stupid for a company as big as Astro. They never blame the govt when they priced their LCD TV or MP3 Player or even their earphone much higher compared to their competitors. Why blame the govt for teh high price in games?

Then why are their BD games are priced somewhat correctly...Looked at their price for BD games, most of teh latest games are prices at comparable prices. Newer games are riced at RM229 (WE2009 and etc) and other games are priced at RM219(MGS4, LBP, etc) Other games at RM199 to RM169 (SC4 and etc) and those under Greatest hits cn go as low as RM129 (Ratchet, Splinter Cell, Ass Creed, NGS and etc)

I personally think sony screwed up on their digital distribution market pricing and positioning. The must have thought that The gamers who buys PS3 and buys download games are the cream of teh crop. These buhch of customers are elites and willing to pay premuim prices to have teh latest gadgets and games. i.e. not normal gamers that still use Discs based games.

There is no f***ing way the govt charge that much for games, why are teh computer games so damn cheap? they are games too just like PS3 games. Don't tell me that computer games are tax free and such and just blame the govt again.

Again Sony is just too damn wrong in their PSN pricing scheme and the person responsible should be fired for not knowing the statistics and real situation in teh market.

Nuff rants from me...I won't even bother to create an MY account



QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jun 8 2009, 09:44 PM)
Hi all,

Yes, that is correct. There is a 10% sales plus 30% excise duty the govt has to charge for any retailers who
wants to sell imported games/movies/software. The excise duty is discretionary depending on volume.

Sony (M) also have to pay for dealer network, servers and bandwidth to serve digital downloads. This is not cheap
yet in Malaysia and there are few competitors in area to offer competitive rates.  The local PSN card (RM100) actually
requires EPAS (Elec. Point of Sale Act. System) but not all dealers have this comp ability, there a surcharge of RM10
is needed. Once the network is established, you should be able pay at the same rate. Bear in mind, there is very
very little profit margin for selling PSN card, some dealer may not want to do this because of the high cost of activation.
As for credit card, it will be coming soon but again this is not easy yet. Banks want those high service fees (2%-5%),
Sony needs to eat those fees (or charge you for it).  I think they already did, therefore some games
you're seeing are already price higher that you would see at overseas PSN.

Yes, US PSN seems to have the cheaper DLC for now.

The goal for Sony is local consumers to enjoy local download and consume less international bandwidth - but right now,
they have to operate at higher cost.. just give it time.. (one year or more), the price may come down later.  smile.gif

Enjoy your new local PSN!

P.S. I'm not a Sony dealer but merely a 3rd party private reseller who has deal with them before. It is much easier
to deal with Sony USA than Sony Malaysia for now.  biggrin.gif
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Don;t need to read the sales and whatever tax coz the pricing of BD games are not THAT high so why DLC have to be HIGH? it's not about taxes but it's about wrong pricing and marketing decision.

Second point that you make

This is teh problem with Sony, why launch something when the infrastructure is not in the works yet. You'll lose the goodwill and trust of all your customer if you start on teh wrong side of the fence. It's going to be very hard to jump over teh fence once all teh infra is place and cust's trust has already gone down the drain and they have all got other alternatives to the same thing (SG and US PSN). Like me, once I have my option of getting better prices for teh same thing, why go to Sony MY?

If sony wants to succeed, they have to invest in the infra, retailer support and etc. then only they can launch it successfully. No point launching something that the customer will never support coz in the end you'll just say...OH THE MALAYSIAN MARKET IS NOT READY FOR DIGITAL CONTENT YET.

oh and Mr Sony, if you are listening, MY Apple Store for my Ipod Touch is good enough foy me. Even though the price is still in USD and the selection is not as good as US Apple Store. We don't get screwed over. Oh and they are selling games too you know...so go learn from them how they did it....successfully I might say.

p/s: damooncake...no offense to you but I' just ranting on this board to SONY..I mostly only lurking on the board and post occasionally but I just got to post on this matter...as I'm so frusterated at Sony utter stupidness in assessing their market and product position. Maybe coz they thought MS Xbox360 is not officially launched here hence they don't have a competitor hence they can have a monopoly...Obviously Sony have not heard about those free browser games and free to play MMO/games that all our youngsters are mad about since the last 2-3 years. Oh I'm going mad thinking about the lost opportunity that Sony is going thru.

This post has been edited by lapaq: Jun 9 2009, 11:21 AM
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post Jun 9 2009, 11:32 AM

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post Jun 9 2009, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(K-End @ Jun 8 2009, 11:05 PM)
if the Video section is up...hopefully can get local content.

Finally can download the full season of Keliwon ph34r.gif
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Datin Wanabe episodes would be an overkill!!

Oh, would it kill them to include Bio-Nik too?

and for some classic treatment, so air gun action from Gerak Khas the series!!!

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post Jun 9 2009, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Jun 9 2009, 12:07 PM)
Datin Wanabe episodes would be an overkill!!

Oh, would it kill them to include Bio-Nik too?

and for some classic treatment, so air gun action from Gerak Khas the series!!!

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oh sheeettt...include all the previous season since 1999.


Finally Yusof Haslam will be proud


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post Jun 9 2009, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(K-End @ Jun 9 2009, 12:10 PM)
oh sheeettt...include all the previous season since 1999.
Finally Yusof Haslam will be proud
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will there be discount on PSN top up card at Sony Style the Curve tomoro? since there are having 20%discount on PS3 set hmm.gif

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QUOTE(lapaq @ Jun 9 2009, 10:46 AM)
Yup...typical gamers reply... rclxub.gif
Blaming tax is pretty stupid for a company as big as Astro. They never blame the govt when they priced their LCD TV or MP3 Player or even their earphone much higher compared to their competitors. Why blame the govt for teh high price in games?

Then why are their BD games are priced somewhat correctly...Looked at their price for BD games, most of teh latest games are prices at comparable prices. Newer games are riced at RM229 (WE2009 and etc) and other games are priced at RM219(MGS4, LBP, etc) Other games at RM199 to RM169 (SC4 and etc) and those under Greatest  hits cn go as low as RM129 (Ratchet, Splinter Cell, Ass Creed, NGS and etc)

I personally think sony screwed up on their digital distribution market pricing and positioning. The must have thought that The gamers who buys PS3 and buys download games are the cream of teh crop. These buhch of customers are elites and willing to pay premuim prices to have teh latest gadgets and games. i.e. not normal gamers that still use Discs based games.

There is no f***ing way the govt charge that much for games, why are teh computer games so damn cheap? they are games too just like PS3 games. Don't tell me that computer games are tax free and such and just blame the govt again.

Again Sony is just too damn wrong in their PSN pricing scheme and the person responsible should be fired for not knowing the statistics and real situation in teh market.

Nuff rants from me...I won't even bother to create an MY account
Don;t need to read the sales and whatever tax coz the pricing of BD games are not THAT high so why DLC have to be HIGH? it's not about taxes but it's about wrong pricing and marketing decision.

Second point that you make

This is teh problem with Sony, why launch something when the infrastructure is not in the works yet. You'll lose the goodwill and trust of all your customer if you start on teh wrong side of the fence. It's going to be very hard to jump over teh fence once all teh infra is place and cust's trust has already gone down the drain and they have all got other alternatives to the same thing (SG and US PSN). Like me, once I have my option of getting better prices for teh same thing, why go to Sony MY?

If sony wants to succeed, they have to invest in the infra, retailer support and etc. then only they can launch it successfully. No point launching something that the customer will never support coz in the end you'll just say...OH THE MALAYSIAN MARKET IS NOT READY FOR DIGITAL CONTENT YET.

oh and Mr Sony, if you are listening, MY Apple Store for my Ipod Touch is good enough foy me. Even though the price is still in USD and the selection is not as good as US Apple Store. We don't get screwed over. Oh and they are selling games too you know...so go learn from them how they did it....successfully I might say.

p/s: damooncake...no offense to you but I' just ranting on this board to SONY..I mostly only lurking on the board and post occasionally but I just got to post on this matter...as I'm so frusterated at Sony utter stupidness in assessing their market and product position. Maybe coz they thought MS Xbox360 is not officially launched here hence they don't have a competitor hence they can have a monopoly...Obviously Sony have not heard about those free browser games and free to play MMO/games that all our youngsters are mad about since the last 2-3 years. Oh I'm going mad thinking about the lost opportunity that Sony is going thru.
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post Jun 9 2009, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Jun 9 2009, 12:15 PM)
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QUOTE(amduser @ Jun 9 2009, 12:33 PM)
save it, sony wont read this, and they are not gamers laugh.gif
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can do us a favour and mail it to them? even better give them a link to this thread
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post Jun 9 2009, 01:23 PM

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