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 Starcraft 2 V2, Releasing on 27th of July 2010 :D

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post Feb 21 2010, 02:23 PM

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I dont know, from the screenshots I see I don't really see where are these "awesome graphics", it's neat and all, but a little bit too much "cartoonish" for me. I would say nice graphics but not "awesome" either, but that's personal impression.

Maybe it's better to see in action with explosions and all, but the smoke trails and other small details I see on screenshots are "okey" but nothing more.

Personally I think I will be getting it anyway, I play only Single player anyway and the campains sounds pretty interesting and long.

As for "of course Blizz will not change the MP gameplay a lot" then I am just wondering why it's taking them so long to bring it out and why they waited so long to develop a sequel, just really curious. They have the money with Wow so it's not that issue, I am sure they have enough developers and co and fans have been QQing for one sequel for many years.

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post Feb 21 2010, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(ubeyou @ Feb 21 2010, 02:15 PM)
you don't have the map for the replay.
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Yeap i just found out, and i found guide for window xp user, anyone knows the guide for vista?

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FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO STILL CAN'T WATCH THE RET REPLAY DO THIS (for Windows XP):

Download this map and copy it to C:\Documents and Settings\<NAME>\My Documents\StarCraft II Beta\Maps

1. Go to C:\Documents and Settings\<NAME>\Local Settings\Application Data\Blizzard Entertainment\Battle.net\Cache
2. Create a folder named 96
3. Go into that folder and create another folder named 66
4. Go into THAT folder and copy the same map there as well, so it looks like this:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «



Now you should be able to watch the ret replay.


copy pasted from teamliquid
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post Feb 21 2010, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(kEazYc @ Feb 21 2010, 02:01 PM)
I couldn't play most of the replay files =\ dunno whats wrong
this is the error i got..
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im not sure allowed to post here. u lacks of the maps i think . get from http://www.nibbits.com

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post Feb 21 2010, 02:33 PM

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I know that site, now what i need is, where the hell i can find C:\Documents and Settings\<NAME>\Local Settings\Application Data\Blizzard Entertainment\Battle.net\Cache for vista?
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for vista is C:\User\[Username]\Local\Blizzard Entertainment\Battle.net\Cache
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post Feb 21 2010, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(ubeyou @ Feb 21 2010, 02:38 PM)
for vista is C:\User\[Username]\Local\Blizzard Entertainment\Battle.net\Cache
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Do i automatically has Local folder once i formatted my comp? Coz i don't see any local folder there.
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post Feb 21 2010, 03:02 PM

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it is hidden folder btw.
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post Feb 21 2010, 03:06 PM

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Okay its a hidden folder, now another problem rises, why i checked show hidden folder, when i apply it, it doesn't shows up, but when i checked back the hidden folder option, it checked "do not show", why is that happens? =\

Lol this is going way off topic biggrin.gif

-EDITED- found the solutions.

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post Feb 21 2010, 03:22 PM

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If you have a Starcraft 2 beta key, you can sell it for RM900 on ebay. biggrin.gif Wow enough to buy 8 Starcraft 2 game.

http://kotaku.com/5476373/scalpers-getting...ft-ii-beta-keys
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post Feb 21 2010, 03:42 PM

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....... i've downloaded ALL the official maps, but still unable to watch a single replay file. =\
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post Feb 21 2010, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Feb 21 2010, 12:35 PM)
Finally a good replay,after dozen of rubbish. biggrin.gif

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...topic_id=112958

SC2 seems to be a good replay watching game.
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prolly cuz we cant play the damn game and we need replays fix to curb our sc2 needs


Added on February 21, 2010, 4:21 pm
QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Feb 21 2010, 12:58 PM)
I dont give a damn about SC being the ultimate competitive RTS. The gameplay hasnt changed since 1998 and it's more or less the same after 12 years while it's competitors have improved upon SC1's successful formula by leaps and bounds.Im not talking about gameplay alone,even the graphics,sound,animations feels dated.

The reason why other RTS could not achieve what SC1 have achieved is because none of all these RTS companies(im looking especially at you,Relic) could provide a good long term support as most of them dont have infinite money in their pockets. If one of those RTS companies could give the support that SC1 enjoyed,SC1 would have lost it's reign.

Besides,the money in gaming are all in the hands of the casual gamers that only care about the campaign,stomping some AI and never bother playing online. If Blizzard fail to get these people, SC2 wont be successful.

Im only interested in SC2 because i enjoyed the first one a lot. If im one of those newer generation of gamers that never touched SC1 before,i wont even bother to look at SC2 at all.

Nice,even more replays.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...topic_id=112991
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blizzard didnt have infinite money at the beginning. in fact, they started out just like everyone else: small company, and as a matter of fact, they didnt even started out for pc, they did for console, in which they *kinda* faild. (well, not many actually know about this, right?)

WoW (the ultimate blizz cashcow) didnt even came out until 5 years ago. war3/sc was way before that.

its how blizzard makes their game - strive for perfection, and the passion behind it.

one could claim how blizz would've failed sc1 if other companies didnt suck too much, but fact is they did, and blizzard didn't. cant really argue around that. now them "taking advantage" for what they've achieved from sc1 (fan whining/b****ing of "omg sc2 is so 1998") is their decision. and fans will still dig it. simple as that.


Added on February 21, 2010, 4:23 pm
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QFT this.


Added on February 21, 2010, 4:24 pm
QUOTE(f4tE @ Feb 21 2010, 01:15 PM)
seems like theres a lot of negative comments on SC2.. i expected it earlier since blizzard already said its similar to the original.. maybe i wont buy the game afterall.. wait few mor months for diablo3
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d3 is EARLIEST 2011, enjoy the wait lol.


Added on February 21, 2010, 4:29 pm
QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Feb 21 2010, 01:25 PM)
There is one thing i would say,if you have some good replays(not people camping outside their base),SC2 is a damn fun game,even you are just watching,as there are lots of suspense and the game is much more unpredictable from other RTS.Plus with the new units that give more mobility,it's feels that SC2 is have faster pace,compared to SC1.

Now,i just want to play the game myself.

The sounds,models,and art style still bugs me.It's not like RA3's cartoony kind of graphics which i love a lot. SC2 looks like a cheap online game with those big blocky WoW inspired models,lousy monotonic sounds and kinda plain environments.


Added on February 21, 2010, 1:29 pm

I know one guy wont like Blizzard's approach with SC2,Activision's CEO,Bobby Kotick,as SC2 is just the opposite of what he wants.SC2 seems more like a game that wont have yearly sequels,cost a lot to make due to the long time it require,and probably casual people wont be happy.

I think,whats left of the appeal of SC2 for casuals is just single player campaign and custom maps.

Nope,the delays are caused by the single player and battlenet.Mainly battlenet,i think.Blizzard started with multiplayer design first before they start doing the single player.
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thats the whole competitive esport right there that you "dont care about". and thats what made sc1/war3 the game it was back then. so far im already enjoying the replays myself though i have to agree with you: turtling games are terribad. war3 fixed that by having creeping and what not (a lesson learned from sc1), however sc2 seemed to bring that back since they dont have the hero element. i hope they can really fix this as this could be detrimental to the whole esport thing they are trying to bring. i mean, who the F would want to spend over an hour looking at the big screen with 2 people simply turtling up with base defenses? :/

as for the 2nd part, lol isnt that what MOST companies do except a few certain ones like blizz themselves? tongue.gif


Added on February 21, 2010, 4:36 pm
QUOTE(Gormaz @ Feb 21 2010, 02:23 PM)
I dont know, from the screenshots I see I don't really see where are these "awesome graphics", it's neat and all, but a little bit too much "cartoonish" for me. I would say nice graphics but not "awesome" either, but that's personal impression.

Maybe it's better to see in action with explosions and all, but the smoke trails and other small details I see on screenshots are "okey" but nothing more.

Personally I think I will be getting it anyway, I play only Single player anyway and the campains sounds pretty interesting and long.

As for "of course Blizz will not change the MP gameplay a lot" then I am just wondering why it's taking them so long to bring it out and why they waited so long to develop a sequel, just really curious. They have the money with Wow so it's not that issue, I am sure they have enough developers and co and fans have been QQing for one sequel for many years.
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people complained the same for war3, and they did for WoW, then they did for sc2/diablo3 (i lold most on d3, btw). those same people PROBABLY play/will play the damn games anyways. blizzard decided on their approach, and quite frankly im with them due to:
1) rather unique (who else does this? LOL)
2) due to this, its somewhat less taxing than other games? i mean, look at their min spec requirements LOL

yes, its not ENTIRELY OMGBBQ AWESOME like the recent games (remember crysis when its out? people literally had to upgrade their pc or even buy new ones just to play) however it isnt anywhere bad at all. and yes, you really really have to play the game/see it in action personally (not crappy youtubes lol) to REALLY appreciate it. screenshots does it NO justice.

one small detail even i myself missed out that my little sister spotted: the surrounding air from the protoss archons are sorta warped/condensed, which further "amplify" their presence. hell even after her pointing out i had to zoom in and went ZOMG DETAIL LOL.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Feb 21 2010, 04:36 PM
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post Feb 21 2010, 05:05 PM

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The way i see it, starcraft 2 is like metal or classical music. Sure it won't achieve mass appeal like popular ones did, but it'll grow on you. It gets better as it ages. People will keep playing years and years after its initial release. Popular music on the other hand try to appeal 99% of consumers who can't appreciate it in the first place. It dies as the hype dies, because it has no substance.

QUOTE(mrhulk @ Feb 21 2010, 03:22 PM)
If you have a Starcraft 2 beta key, you can sell it for RM900 on ebay. biggrin.gif Wow enough to buy 8 Starcraft 2 game.

http://kotaku.com/5476373/scalpers-getting...ft-ii-beta-keys
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Yes, thats the average price i saw on liquidpoker.net forum. I saw someone buying 2ndhand key for $335/RM1140 on that forum.

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Here are a few replays of mine which I think are good games. Other games are pretty much about me getting raped by terran with units i've not seen before or me raping them with banelings which imo isnt interesting.

DOWNLOAD HERE
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I take a bet SC2 won't last more then 3 months before everybody shift their attention to something else. I already seeing the defect of this game while playing it ( don't ask for a beta key from please). If this is somewhat of the final product, with the sucky sounds, the WOW art style, etc. Then Blizzard might aswell just release it and get it over with. Cause its gona be one big salvage operation after this. And no, blizzard isn't a perfectonist, they are marketers.

SC2 would at best nly appeal to the SC fans due to story involement with the first one. Which was very good. But back then mojarity of games were utter nonsense, even C&C lost the SC. Without a standing competitor back then SC ruled supreme with legions of fans.

But that was years ago, and SC never actually made any apearance after that which allowed other game companies to push on and evolve. Still the game WILL sell out on first day. The question is how long will it stay noticible under so much weight of other games out there. Gamers these days have very short attention spans. And new games are always coming out every month.

For thos who are dying to get into beta, you are not really missing out anything much, besides the battlenet. What Cheseenium say is true, this game is highly overrated. So pray what we are getting now isn't what we are getting at the end of the line. If not Blizzard can just shut down OB and redo the entire thing for another 10 years or 15 or whatever.

Their biggest mistake they made with SC, is that they never expanded the game for so long, that there is a good chance that because it took so long to develope and redone, that its basic concept and purpose of the game is 10 years outdated. whistling.gif Time to pray people~

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post Feb 21 2010, 05:54 PM

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Only able to run the game and watch some replays

Some maps are still missing even though it is there

Overall, the graphic is nice and don't put so much expectectation on this game. Is a remake of the game with better visual effects.

Waiting to play againts AI.

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Is really pretty and smooth on my P4 2.4Ghz 8500GT 512mb

Settings are on medium icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Feb 21 2010, 06:23 PM

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lol at all "SC2 is not good enough" rants.
Its just a friggin beta. Wait till the retail is out.

Even after finishing the "uber long" campaign theres gonna be tons of custom maps later on.

Anyone who remembered playing "Starship Troopers" on the Original Starcraft knows what to expect soon.
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Feb 21 2010, 06:23 PM)
lol at all "SC2 is not good enough" rants.
Its just a friggin beta. Wait till the retail is out.

Even after finishing the "uber long" campaign theres gonna be tons of custom maps later on.

Anyone who remembered playing "Starship Troopers" on the Original Starcraft knows what to expect soon.
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omg its a beta?!
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post Feb 21 2010, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(meetxj9 @ Feb 21 2010, 05:37 PM)
I take a bet SC2 won't last more then 3 months before everybody shift their attention to something else. I already seeing the defect of this game while playing it ( don't ask for a beta key from please). If this is somewhat of the final product, with the sucky sounds, the WOW art style, etc. Then Blizzard might aswell just release it and get it over with. Cause its gona be one big salvage operation after this. And no, blizzard isn't a perfectonist, they are marketers.

SC2 would at best nly appeal to the SC fans due to story involement with the first one. Which was very good. But back then mojarity of games were utter nonsense, even C&C lost the SC. Without a standing competitor back then SC ruled supreme with legions of fans.

But that was years ago, and SC never actually made any apearance after that which allowed other game companies to push on and evolve. Still the game WILL sell out on first day. The question is how long will it stay noticible under so much weight of other games out there. Gamers these days have very short attention spans. And new games are always coming out every month.

For thos who are dying to get into beta, you are not really missing out anything much, besides the battlenet. What Cheseenium say is true, this game is highly overrated. So pray what we are getting now isn't what we are getting at the end of the line. If not Blizzard can just shut down OB and redo the entire thing for another 10 years or 15 or whatever.

Their biggest mistake they made with SC, is that they never expanded the game for so long, that there is a good chance that because it took so long to develope and redone, that its basic concept and purpose of the game is 10 years outdated. whistling.gif Time to pray people~
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I doubt you even know how starcraft really works, compared to C&C4, the beta is utterly brilliant doh.gif
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