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post Jul 2 2009, 03:41 AM

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Likelihood that Valencia and Spain striker David Villa is close to a move to Barcelona after meeting the Catalans' sporting director Txiki Beguristain.
http://www.as.com/futbol/articulo/villa-acerca-barcelona/dasftb/20090701dasdasftb_17/Tes


Gist of it is that Llorente, Valencia president, will not even sell a virus to RM.

That leaves begging a question who is leaving Barca?



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post Jul 2 2009, 03:56 AM

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QUOTE(sakaito @ Jul 2 2009, 01:01 AM)
maaa~~~n.. i tot that this guy will join MU (if not MU, maybe in premier league) this season... sweat.gif
RM is ruining the football~~! Blater, you better do something... vmad.gif

btw, i just read somewhere, that liverpool want to sign falcao..
i dont remember where i read it, but from the intenet laaa
later i get the source, kompem with u all later
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post Jul 2 2009, 07:47 AM

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benzema to real ... yay

man u options is shrinking ... go sign eto lah biggrin.gif ... or huntelaar

surprisingly no news from tottenham for so long liaw
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post Jul 2 2009, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(watever-u-like @ Jul 2 2009, 03:56 AM)
maaa~~~n.. i tot that this guy will join MU (if not MU, maybe in premier league) this season... sweat.gif
RM is ruining the football~~! Blater, you better do something... vmad.gif

btw, i just read somewhere, that liverpool want to sign falcao..
i dont remember where i read it, but from the intenet laaa
later i get the source, kompem with u all later
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In which way we are ruining football? Perhaps fulfilling that boy's dream is ruining football? whistling.gif
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post Jul 2 2009, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(miccy @ Jul 2 2009, 12:59 PM)
In which way we are ruining football? Perhaps fulfilling that boy's dream is ruining football?  whistling.gif
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Hahaha nothing la.. Just they have a lot of money.... whistling.gif
They go and buy buy all player... MU dont have any left... laugh.gif
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post Jul 2 2009, 02:31 PM

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It's all becoming a little too fantasy like for me. Can someone tell me how much Real have spent so far? You guys could have bought Newcastle and used them as a feeder club.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jul 2 2009, 02:31 PM)
It's all becoming a little too fantasy like for me. Can someone tell me how much Real have spent so far? You guys could have bought Newcastle and used them as a feeder club.
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About 211 ME so far. See it as sort of a rebuilding express plan. Our future transfer windows will be comparatively quieter I reckon. Newcastle? Not worth the investment tongue.gif
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QUOTE(verx @ Jul 2 2009, 03:06 PM)
About 211 ME so far. See it as sort of a rebuilding express plan. Our future transfer windows will be comparatively quieter I reckon. Newcastle? Not worth the investment tongue.gif
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Hmm so that's the outlay so far. I wonder how much you'll recoup for outgoing transfers. I'm sure the spending hasn't stopped with Xabi Alonso on the verge of joining for 20 - 25 milliion. Arbeloa will be a steal at 5 million.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jul 2 2009, 03:11 PM)
Hmm so that's the outlay so far. I wonder how much you'll recoup for outgoing transfers. I'm sure the spending hasn't stopped with Xabi Alonso on the verge of joining for 20 - 25 milliion. Arbeloa will be a steal at 5 million.
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We've already sold Saviola for 5ME. Metzelder and Huntelaar are almost confirmed to be on their way out. We are also listening for offers for RVN, VDV, Sneijder, Diarra and Heinze. So we'll just wait and see how it all pans out.
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It's gonna be recouped in no time, shirt sales for Kaka, Ronaldo and Benzema will be phenomenal, balancing the books in no time at all.
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QUOTE(watever-u-like @ Jul 2 2009, 03:56 AM)
maaa~~~n.. i tot that this guy will join MU (if not MU, maybe in premier league) this season... sweat.gif
RM is ruining the football~~! Blater, you better do something... vmad.gif

btw, i just read somewhere, that liverpool want to sign falcao..
i dont remember where i read it, but from the intenet laaa
later i get the source, kompem with u all later
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I actually see this as Real helping other club, club like United, Milan who really can make good use of the cash from sales given the current state of world credit crunch and economic collapse thumbup.gif

How will they get the money back is their problem, but looking at the money they made with Beckham, I`m sure somehow they will sweat.gif
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QUOTE(EyraYus @ Jul 2 2009, 05:36 PM)
I actually see this as Real helping other club, club like United, Milan who really can make good use of the cash from sales given the current state of world credit crunch and economic collapse thumbup.gif

How will they get the money back is their problem, but looking at the money they made with Beckham, I`m sure somehow they will sweat.gif
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These Kaka and CR signings are straight forward deals financed by two financial institutions, Caja Madrid and Banco Santander.

Spanish building society Caja Madrid issued a loan of 76.5 million euros (C$120 million) to Real Madrid, which has put up two undisclosed sources of collateral. Spain's largest bank, Banco Santander, has agreed to lend Real Madrid a similar amount.

Finance Minister Elena Salgado said Tuesday she finds it odd that Caja Madrid can come up with so much money for Madrid when loans are scarce for everyday people and companies.

"It surprises me, and what I would ask banks is that: if they have liquidity, that they also make loans to small and medium-size companies and families," she said. "I would ask that they make an effort for them."


Thats why theres an outcry by the rest of the country against these mega signings and their exceptional low tax rates for foreign players at other Spanish taxpayers expense.

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Previously to fund the Galacticos I era, RM was able to sell its former training ground Ciudad Deportiva at a handsome sum over 480 million euros. This was a controversial land and property deal.

The gist of it is that in late 1990s with Real Madrid's debts mounting, plans to re-zone and commercially develop the land were mooted several times, but it wasn't until the presidency of Florentino Perez that these plans came to fruition.

In 2000 there was a motion proposed, voted on, and approved in the Madrid parliament to re-zone the area of the Ciudad Deportiva, which until then was zoned for non-commercial purposes. In this vote, the Partido Popular (People's Party) and the Izquierda Unida (United Left) voted in favor, the PSOE (Socialist Party) voting against.



Bottom line is that it took friends and supporters in high places (gahmen) to aid in rezoning the property deals. At the end of the day RM (socios), Perez and his cronies were able to benefit and the rest is history. Of course its understandable the rest of the country (including RM rivals Athletico Madrid, Valencia, Barca et al) were not too 'thrilled' about the helping hand of the gahmen.



Verx, thats the financial wherewithal (finanacial muscle via political clout) that RM has. Can you refute above. No?
Just imagine if Liverpool were given a similar lending hand by the gahmen. Malcolm Glazer will not have to sell his Montreal Canadiens.


These facts are known. Just that I am posting these here at the appropriate moment.

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post Jul 2 2009, 09:40 PM

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maaa~~~n.. i tot that this guy will join MU (if not MU, maybe in premier league) this season... 
RM is ruining the football~~! Blater, you better do something... 


Better don't expect that dementia idiot to do anything... he's envious of EPL's marketing success...
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post Jul 3 2009, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(niuchin @ Jul 2 2009, 07:09 PM)
These Kaka and CR signings are straight forward deals financed by two financial institutions, Caja Madrid and Banco Santander.

Spanish building society Caja Madrid issued a loan of 76.5 million euros (C$120 million) to Real Madrid, which has put up two undisclosed sources of collateral. Spain's largest bank, Banco Santander, has agreed to lend Real Madrid a similar amount.

Finance Minister Elena Salgado said Tuesday she finds it odd that Caja Madrid can come up with so much money for Madrid when loans are scarce for everyday people and companies.

"It surprises me, and what I would ask banks is that: if they have liquidity, that they also make loans to small and medium-size companies and families," she said. "I would ask that they make an effort for them."


Thats why theres an outcry by the rest of the country against these mega signings and their exceptional low tax rates for foreign players at other Spanish taxpayers expense.

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Previously to fund the Galacticos I  era, RM was able to sell its former training ground Ciudad Deportiva at a handsome sum over 480 million euros. This was a controversial land and property deal.

The gist of it is that in late 1990s with Real Madrid's debts mountingplans to re-zone and commercially develop the land were mooted several times, but it wasn't until the presidency of Florentino Perez that these plans came to fruition.

In 2000 there was a motion proposed, voted on, and approved in the Madrid parliament to re-zone the area of the Ciudad Deportiva, which until then was zoned for non-commercial purposes. In this vote, the Partido Popular (People's Party) and the Izquierda Unida (United Left) voted in favor, the PSOE (Socialist Party) voting against.

Bottom line is that it took friends and supporters in high places (gahmen) to aid in rezoning the  property deals. At the end of the day RM (socios), Perez and his cronies were able to benefit and the rest is history. Of course its understandable the rest of the country (including RM rivals Athletico Madrid, Valencia, Barca et al) were not too 'thrilled' about the helping hand of the gahmen.
Verx, thats the financial wherewithal (finanacial muscle via  political clout) that RM has. Can you refute above. No?
Just imagine if Liverpool were given a similar lending hand by the  gahmen. Malcolm Glazer will not have to sell his Montreal Canadiens.
These facts are known. Just that I am posting these here at the appropriate moment.

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I am no businessman, but i think it's because of RM's big organization, assets and phenomenal history on these galacticos players that eventually secured them a deal. Also i heard it can be back up by their TV deal, anyhow can u point me to the 'outcries' you mentioned? Is it all came from Catalan?

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About the classification of fields, it's came from the El ayuntamiento de Madrid (Madrid council), not the Government, and it's a complete legal practice, as well as other clubs in Spain has done previously and are intending to do now (in fact, Barcelona). European Union also investigated on the matters and they found nothing's illegal. And still Real Madrid has two lands, one in Las Tablas and the renegotiation of La Esquina, which concession finishes in 2011 that Florentino could use if needed.

For anyone who still doubts the training ground was worth what Real Madrid sold it for, it's worth noting that just one of the towers was sold for 815 Million Euros in 2007. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CTBA

Do you know which is the club in Spain that has sold their grounds the most in the history? Barcelona. Do you know that Barcelona has an amazing financial support from La Generalitat (Autonomic Catalan Government) in order for Barcelona to do politics promoting the independence and nationalism of Cataluña? Do you know that Caixa Cataluña (bank) is behind Barcelona?
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Oh well...This is thread of Post Season Transfer Talk.If you guys wanna debate on the financial status of a certain club, open another thread.Thank you... smile.gif
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QUOTE(miccy @ Jul 3 2009, 12:05 AM)
I am no businessman, but i think it's because of RM's big organization, assets and phenomenal history on these galacticos players that eventually secured them a deal. Also i heard it can be back up by their TV deal, anyhow can u point me to the 'outcries' you mentioned? Is it all came from Catalan?

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About the classification of fields, it's came from the El ayuntamiento de Madrid (Madrid council), not the Government, and it's a complete legal practice, as well as other clubs in Spain has done previously and are intending to do now (in fact, Barcelona). European Union also investigated on the matters and they found nothing's illegal. And still Real Madrid has two lands, one in Las Tablas and the renegotiation of La Esquina, which concession finishes in 2011 that Florentino could use if needed.

For anyone who still doubts the training ground was worth what Real Madrid sold it for, it's worth noting that just one of the towers was sold for 815 Million Euros in 2007. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CTBA

Do you know which is the club in Spain that has sold their grounds the most in the history? Barcelona. Do you know that Barcelona has an amazing financial support from La Generalitat (Autonomic Catalan Government) in order for Barcelona to do politics promoting the independence and nationalism of Cataluña? Do you know that Caixa Cataluña (bank) is behind Barcelona?
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wow... you have such got info thumbup.gif
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post Jul 3 2009, 12:14 AM

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fuh... 4 towers in Madrid....

i mean 4 power signing already.. eheheheh ronaldo, benzema, kaka and albiol. eheheheh
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jul 3 2009, 12:10 AM)
Oh well...This is thread of Post Season Transfer Talk.If you guys wanna debate on the financial status of a certain club, open another thread.Thank you... smile.gif
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To be honest though, I found this discussion much more interesting smile.gif

Usually this kind of thread is filled with "oh let's get so and so" comments.
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Manchester United might sign Michael Owen.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/foo...icle6626864.ece

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