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 The Official Subwoofer Thread v2, Everything you need to know about bass!

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post Jun 2 2009, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 2 2009, 10:07 AM)
How is the MO coming along?
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bro since we r waiting for htkaki to try out the sub 1st then i am not rushing so much now.. which is good coz the cost is lower now i can look at the options we have .. I have set everything in excel now so it is alot easier for me know the the cost even if we have a change of units of order of certain model... by tomorrow nite we can have the actual price of everything.. then i can explain to u all what we r in for and all the details and how much cheaper we can get and what r the disadvantages of our group buy.. I cant remember the last time i am so serious in getting things done hehe.. hope i can be so serious at work laugh.gif
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post Jun 3 2009, 03:07 PM

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MO doesnt look good liao.. the only cost i was waiting for was truck transport from svs warehouse to the port in ohio.. i underestimated it.. manatau it is USD291 per cubic meter.. stupid truck so expensive.

those who r still interested in the MO pls pm me.. need to explain something.. if u guys understand liao and still wanna proceed then only i find out more.

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post Jun 4 2009, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jun 3 2009, 11:19 PM)
Boss,

I learnt it from you  tongue.gif  Remember your sms? I nearly got a heart attack on that  laugh.gif
Okay. First impression.

Of course, on the build quality lah. AQ, wait til tmw lah  whistling.gif

The box is so big but easy to dismantle. The PC-12plus is nicely wrapped with plastic. It is protected by foams. Very good packaging indeed. That's all for now as I need to switch off my gear. I mean my PC-12Plus
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ma pookee talk half way go to sleep!!! mad.gif
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post Jun 4 2009, 10:50 AM

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If any1 wanna organise a MO or got cheap jalan pls let me know also.. very bz with work .. i just wanna get cheap sub.. any1 organise doesnt matter to me... so if Any1 got a cheaper way or maybe not cheaper but more convinient or maybe almost same price pls post it here .. i wont be offended coz i am a lazy bugger.. lazy to organise unless got no choice

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post Jun 4 2009, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jun 4 2009, 11:13 AM)
mys_terious, I thought you are going ahead with it? No?

I might (only might) bring in a few more units in with a mixture of 12+ and 13Ultras. Yet to confirm. Probably by air too.

If this is ok, then expect massive shipment coming in to flood domestic market. Pray hard.

Anyway, here's another photo release :

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Aiya... too bad no time to FR a bit here. Got to go out now.
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if u r bringing in then i tumpang yours la.. i thought ocean freight will be cheaper thats y i looked into it.. it is cheaper at the end but not so much.. and 4 weeks wait lo.. that bolster might become salty hehe
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post Jun 7 2009, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(geforce1999 @ Jun 6 2009, 04:11 PM)
The L.Y.N. SVS Subwoofer MO club (if Jadi)

PC12-Plus
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1)nakata101
2) jwyj
3)

PB12-Plus
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1) easternred
2)
3)

PC12-NSD
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1)megatron007??
2)

PB12-NSD
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1) lightning69
2) lexonline
3)

AS-EQ1
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1) Jack28HT
2)

PC13-Ultra
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1) mys_terious
2) Jack28HT (depends on cost)
3)

Sorry I'm off the chat...
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lets keep the list alive .. maybe htkaki might be doing a MO and maybe not.. but if he is, it is easier for him to plan if we have the list
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post Jun 8 2009, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Jun 8 2009, 10:11 AM)
sigh....
I felt my 12R no value liao....cry.gif
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such a big price diff la bro..
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post Jun 9 2009, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jun 9 2009, 02:40 PM)
Mine is PC-12Plus. I am 'greedy' fella if you know me. Since the price difference of PC-12NSD is 'not that much', I took the heaviest plunge of my life.

I must admit that this is single most expensive 'investment' that I ever made throughout my 17 years of HT hobby.
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u took the heaviest plunge of your life and but looks like it is not the heaviest for this year ehhe.. talking abt pb pula now keke
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post Jun 14 2009, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 14 2009, 03:09 PM)
I'm working on alternative ways to get it ship to me.  SVS too good to give up!
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bro i am not sure how much is velo spl, but u should check them out and compare the price... i think door to door for pb12nsd to your place will be usd500 and above.. coz i live in kedah and the door to door for pb12nsd to kedah was USD4XX already thats y i chose door to airport last time.. assuming your door to door to borneo is USD550 (rough guess) , total cost (with tax) would be

USD(569+550) x 1.27 =usd1421.. convert to rm= 1421x3.5 =RM 4980! i am quite sure spl will out do PB-NSD since it kept up well with pc-plus in htkaki's shootout.. i am certainly not a pro and have nvr used velo spl, just my 2cents
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post Jun 14 2009, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 14 2009, 04:01 PM)
The PB is heavier than the PC, so the PC's shipping cost should be cheaper.  Afterall, the PC and the PB sound the same according to SVS.  I don't know about the Velo SPL but everything I read on the net seems to point me back to the SVS.  One thing for sure is that you cannot go wrong with the SVS product.

the other thing that impress me is that there are spare parts for all the SVS products which you can order and replace it yourself should you need any later in the product life.  Of all the speakers manufacturer out there, you might be out of luck if your speakers got problem and has been discontinued.
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sorry i didnt know u r getting PC.. anyway, dont get me wrong i am just saying keep your mind open and compare the price .. coz everything u read abt svs is based on overseas purchase.. if the reviews are based on the transport price and tax to borneo they might give a diff verdict.. the price that i paid for pb12nsd is just abit few hundred more than cht12r at that time and for movies it is clearly much better than cht12r .. but if u r paying full tax to borneo u might be comparing with velo spl .. i am not sure my self thats y when u get the final quote from svs and if the price is quite high then maybe u should check spl's price n compare.. cheerz
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post Jun 14 2009, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 14 2009, 04:36 PM)
I am looking to shipping it to Kuching or Brunei.  Brunei looks like a good option as there is no tax in Brunei and it is only 2 hrs drive from Miri.  The last options is to have it ship to KL.
You have a good point.  Oh...so you do own the PB12-NSD.  I heard that this thing sounds great with music too as there is not a single hint of boominess.  Is that true?

I personally believe that the PB12-NSD would blew the Velo 12R out of the water.  The reason is that the I have the velo 12R now and its just not so good with music.  Many user have confirm that the PB12-NSD can go as low as 17Hz and that is just crazy for that price!


Added on June 14, 2009, 4:47 pmI know I sound over enthusiastic for the PC12-NSD, but I can't help it from what I read from user all around the world. thumbup.gif  I think for those who have own a better woofers like the Velo SPL etc they might not feel that much of an improvement from the PC12-NSD.
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i only compared my sub with cht12r for a few movies clips (didnt test in a same room though) and concluded pb12nsd goes lower .. dont know how to put it in words but u will feel it.. i didnt feel it was good for music as it was in the corner and it was boomy .. b4 i have the chance to move it around my htroom was closed down for other purposes until now:( so i cant comment too much on music except i know it certainly goes lower .. but still i think it is too ambitious to think it can keep up with velo spl
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post Jun 15 2009, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(jwyj @ Jun 15 2009, 09:03 AM)
If you got 'road' to get it in Brunei, then it is excellent. You might as well order 2 pieces. Easy to bring back to Miri from there.
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if buy from brunei then u might want that brunei svs ultra user's help.. forgot his name liao
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post Jun 17 2009, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(callmevil @ Jun 16 2009, 10:04 PM)
i know 6.. hehe
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callmevil... u r the original poisoner.. posting your ultra bolster!! just that that time nobody dare to take the plunge worrying abt warranty.. even after i have explain how the warranty works.. now suddenly all change their minds:)


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QUOTE(caryn_eternal @ Jun 17 2009, 04:23 PM)
hello all sifu, i am a beginner in home entertainment. i am abt. to set up my av room with husband. The room size 12' x 22' x 10' with plaster ceiling.I and my husband have been following or reading the forum for quite sometimes. My intention setup consists Pioneer amp, Pioneer bluray player,pioneer 60" plasma tv. Speaker will be either B & W or others american speaker with velo or rel or b & W as subwoofer. We will most likely to choose rel or b&W as subwoofer. I need info about subwoofer as i audition rel subwoofer at CMY outlet, seem to be very good and solid. According to CMY for a good subwoofer they specify you don,t need to go so low on frequency. At abt. 20-25 hz is the most suitable range, below that you will not feel the oomph much or rather to low of frequency of 18 and below you will not feel the punchy sound and you feel too hollow. Sure enough they show us the magazine abt. some other more expensive model (JL Audio 22Hz, Velodyne spl 20 hz, earthquake 23hz and most of them in between 20-25hz range) As my husband will most likey to spend most of the times on action movies , so this gentlement from CMY state that too low of freq. of 20 below will most suitable for musical and not suitable for action movies, as he said too low too  hollow will it sound and loose all those punchy feeling. So thanks for reading this text and need all the sifu to comment before parting my hard earn money, thanks.
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hi there, i am no sifu but just wanna comment on the CMY gentlement's advice.. either he is another typical salesman know nothing abt av but still wann sell av goods or u mixed up.. generally music doesnt need to go so low .. my advice is dont listen to him and go to other shops that let u try between a sub that goes below 20 hz and one dat only goes down to only 25hz .. try it on a few action movie clips.. my bet is u would love the one going below 20hz but if u dont like it then nothing with it.. just get the one u like.. cheerz.. if u like the 1 below 20hz then pls dont go back the cmy clearly the fella wasnt helping u



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post Jun 18 2009, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(robinlim @ Jun 17 2009, 11:48 PM)
boss, i've changed my status to (depends on cost) smile.gif
pls let me know once u've got the confirmed cost
need to plan for so many things with my tiny budget sad.gif
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bro no need to state depends on cost .. coz every1 is in the same boat... just put our name there so that htkaki can have a better idea roughly how many ppl are interested..


Added on June 18, 2009, 2:19 am
QUOTE(koma @ Jun 18 2009, 12:05 AM)
haha ok sure no probs wink.gif
u flying in frm KL??
i try to meet u if im able to get in, i need
to check with KEC on tis matter
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bro u must be kidding me if u cant get in .. after so many MO u have organised i think if u still couldnt get it then there must be something wrong with these svs angmors shakehead.gif shakehead.gif

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post Jun 22 2009, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(elmer @ Jun 22 2009, 10:41 AM)
Just got my PB12-NSD from Singapore on Saturday. Had to bring an SUV to pick it up. The thing is HUGE!!! I can't imagine how the ultra and the plus series will look since its bigger. I now have a very nice coffee table in my house.

I tested it yesterday and it brought me to another level of movie watching. You really ARE in the movie now. I didn't know there was so much bass in all the movies and it provided a heightened feeling of being engulfed by sound even though I'm in an open living hall. Just like SVS claimed, it was rattling my sliding doors during the strong bass scenes. I can hear my neighbours complaining now.... hahaha.

It was a good haul from Singapore. My 2 friends brought back a Marantz 6003 amp, a pair of Dynaudio book shelf, Dynaudio centre and a Marant 8002 CD player. Customs were to busy talking to one another... hahaha.
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enjoy your new toy! rclxms.gif
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post Jun 25 2009, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(yfyap69 @ Jun 25 2009, 09:03 AM)
Yeah, that's where I got my Onkyo 606. The boss is very friendly...
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there were very efficient to when i emailed them for quotations... i have emailed at least 3 malaysia hifi shops and non replied rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Jun 30 2009, 11:27 AM

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any1 interested in a used SVS pls visit http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1080119
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post Jun 30 2009, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 30 2009, 11:32 AM)
Upgrading to Plus or Ultra?
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not upgrading yet... just selling coz the sub put in my house also no use now.. kena banned by my parents.. they say will frightened my baby
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post Jun 30 2009, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jun 30 2009, 04:58 PM)
Bro, need traning lah. My baby boy got used to it. He watched the entire Madagascar 2 in my ht room. Vol at a bit lower side; -30dB.
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bro if u continue like that by the time he turns 12 he will be hugging your sub n fengtau at home hahaha
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post Jul 1 2009, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(jmdibr @ Jun 30 2009, 10:04 PM)
my friend qoute me RM 3.1k for SVS PB12 NSD door to door directly from USĀ  thumbup.gif
very2 temptingĀ  drool.gif
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is that the price to malaysia? that is cheap!!.. anyway just wondering y u r buying from your fren instead of svs? sent to your fren 1st then your fren send to u declaring at a lower price?

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