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 The Official Subwoofer Thread v2, Everything you need to know about bass!

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post Sep 29 2009, 07:59 AM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Sep 29 2009, 06:47 AM)
bhaskar onslaught might be like this :

Cinema speakers very loud boom boom. No why logitech z5500 cannot boom boom cinema speakers like. Listerin to cinema
speakers, enjoy I so much. mpyw says JL Audio can loud go BOOM BOOM. Youtube checked I already loud boom boom no expect this like. still z5500 listerin better. Come how? sad.gif
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hey knock it off.. i am starting to think u r have used multiple nicks to lcg in here nod.gif
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post Oct 4 2009, 08:22 PM

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Thanks rontt88 for letting me visit your house.. finally i get to audit your supersub... very impressive.. i am not a pro.. so if any1 want me to describe in detail abt this sub then i would say tight, fast ,fast, tight those are only words i know hehehe not a tiny trace of overhang.... everything from the sub was effortless!! the look of the sub really blends into his black n white tv room.. doesnt look like a sub, yes u heard me right.. the big black box doesnt look like a sub at seating distance (around 11'-12') .. didnt really tried many movies .. just some scenes from kungfu panda and the shootingrange scene in batman (i think 5 times a row) .. by the 5th time i could see anfieldude n rontt88 were looking at each other n getting really stim so i got quite uncomfortable hahha... luckily at this moment ronnie's relatives came to his house n we had to stop..

i could tell ronnie wanted to push the sub a bit more, ok to be honest he wanted to push it ALOT MORE (i felt the same too) n but anfieldude kept reminding us its already over 100db.. maybe its just so clean we didnt feel it was annoyingly loud so we wanted more .. it would have been nice if we could try just a few more movies.. but still i am very happy i get to audit this benchmark sub!

ps ronnie sorry to say that i sort of agree with anfieldude that the cantons didnt impress me too much nod.gif

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post Oct 4 2009, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Oct 4 2009, 08:37 PM)
huh? my cantons no good?? sad.gif cry.gif

fortunately the submersive was ok.. at least something good rclxms.gif
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not saying its bad la taukeh.. but we sort of both agree it could be better.. coz your sub is too good! .. if sealed up the room nia koka sui! i really got worried the way u kept replaying the shooting range scene.. your face was so stim ehehe.. congrats to your satisfying purchse!

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post Oct 5 2009, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Oct 5 2009, 09:32 AM)
AS-EQ1 ah? can try b4 buy ah? whistling.gif


Added on October 5, 2009, 9:34 amooops... i just realized i never confirmed the input voltage setting on my submersive. But I suppose it's already set to asian 240V input since it's working?? Will confirm this when i get back.. but u guys know what'll happen if the input is set to 120V & u feed 240V to it?
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wah bro, now baru wanna set voltage?!!!!! hahaha
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post Oct 5 2009, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Oct 5 2009, 10:22 AM)
phew... thank god
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pls write it down so u wont repeat the same mistake when you buy your 2nd submersive
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post Oct 7 2009, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Oct 6 2009, 11:20 PM)
No worry, typo as I do not have the actual list wt me.
Easternred's unit should be the final 2 direct shipments to Malaysia  smile.gif
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mine also final few izt
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post Oct 7 2009, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Oct 7 2009, 03:52 PM)
AS-EQ1 now only $749 if buy direct from SVS
Add $90 for shipping = $839 x 3.53 = RM2,961 if no tax brows.gif
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or can get antimode 8033 read the reviews saying it does a good job too
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post Oct 11 2009, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(arj @ Oct 11 2009, 12:10 PM)
Solid wood doors 8 feet hight that weights a ton! Will try turning down the sub a bit laugh.gif

Extremely happy with the Ultra. Now I'm feeling and hearing stuff I haven't experienced before thumbup.gif

I was very eager to test the Irene scene in Black Hawk Down but unfortunately I sold the BD already. Should have another copy in my next shipment tomorrow laugh.gif
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maybe should try subdude n c still rattle or not
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post Oct 12 2009, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Oct 12 2009, 11:52 AM)
htkaki,

What is the 'ext in'?

The 876 mics are pretty accurate when setting trims, did u double check with the SPL meter? Shd not have needed much adjustment...
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the 876 mic can be used with 875 receiver or not?
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post Oct 12 2009, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Oct 12 2009, 01:02 PM)
No. The cal curves used internally by Audyssey are different.
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dang!
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post Oct 12 2009, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Oct 12 2009, 03:14 PM)
Pink noise, not a problem. When you run audyssey setup , the sound occurs. It still have the 'booob booob .... booobb..' with an addition of that.
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got double check the x over for surround? maybe crossing too low leh?
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post Oct 14 2009, 03:56 PM

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my 100kg/m3 rockwool are here .. woohoo... hopefully my carpenter can make the bass trap for me asap

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post Oct 14 2009, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Oct 14 2009, 03:40 PM)
Yes, dealing with local govt agencies and authorities can be very frustrating.
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ppl who dont deal with them or business affected by government agencies will not understand what we mean.. and will nvr know how slack they are

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post Oct 14 2009, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Oct 14 2009, 04:01 PM)
wah, 100kg/m3, how come so long to get stock? how thick u going to make bass trap? i recommend 6 inches.  thumbup.gif

wonder if anyone wanna buy my bass trap cos i oso wanna get 120kg/m3  brows.gif
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have to order.. the shop told me 'nobody use 1 la.. where got 100kg/m3??!!' i kept insisting then he ok he order for me.. almost 2 months baru sampai hehe

120kg/m3 .. i thought mine already khua cheong, u more khua cheong than me.. i dont know if 100kg/m3 gona improve the performance.. i jus thought since have to go through the trouble y not just put more...

bro 1 piece how many inch.. thought 2 inches?.. u recommend 6 inches means 3 piece of 100kg/m3 per bass trap.. need so khua cheong not hehhe


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QUOTE(htkaki @ Oct 14 2009, 04:11 PM)
How much? Using which type?  hmm.gif
I lose my temper  vmad.gif  Sorry for that. Couldn't get what I thought can be done today. Tmw, another wild run  doh.gif
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remember last time we discuss abt ketam n gov agencies and i exploded big time.. coz its very hard for ppl to even imagine what we r dealing with.. ok OT.. back to subbies

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post Oct 14 2009, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Oct 14 2009, 04:27 PM)
my one is 4 inches thick using 80kg/m3 but my FR chart so-so only. So,  i'm thinking must make thicker and denser to try get something like EQ1 chart result. brows.gif

also, my waterfall chart is not good at lower end, too much resonance longer than 300ms.

don't forget ur ultra got lots of boom boom pow tongue.gif:
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i am not very fussy la.. so so can liao... if really really bad then i will try to save up for antimode 8033 since i am 100 percent sure i wont buy another sub liao .. cant afford svs EQ1 anyway
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post Oct 15 2009, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Oct 15 2009, 10:56 AM)
Seems like there's a new super sub getting attention on AVS forum ... the JTR Captivator :

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Frequency +/-3db 15-85hz
Sensitivity* 86db
Useable Output ** 116db
Recommended Amplification up to 1000 watts
Impedance 4 ohm
Dimensions 30"x22.5"x20"
Weight 98lbs
Construction 18mm Birch
Exterior Finish Textured coating
Connectors Dual Speakon

And these are outdoor readings only brows.gif

USD1,000/pc ... doesn't come with amp though tongue.gif
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old captivator if not wrong i read b4 designed by mark seaton also.. not sure abt new 1 though
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post Oct 24 2009, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Oct 23 2009, 07:52 PM)
That's another thing, avoid dealing with govt bodies on Fridays if you can help it.
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avoid dealing with with govt bodies on any given day.. its bad for your health..


Added on October 24, 2009, 1:35 am
QUOTE(mys_terious @ Oct 24 2009, 01:07 AM)
avoid dealing with with govt bodies on any given day.. its bad for your health..
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post Nov 11 2009, 10:38 AM

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i used to think svs is the bad boys of subs.. until i see this.. ED 2x18" in each sealed rubbish bin.. omg pc13utlra dust bin is going to get its ass kicked by these rubbish bins
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post Dec 28 2009, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(benben79 @ Dec 28 2009, 12:15 AM)
But HT kaki,do you listen to DD12 or F113 before?
How do you know DD12 would lose to F113?
If you listen to it before maybe I would consider your opinion.
But sounds very wrong here if you just judge a subwoofer performance by just reading graph and spec.
Maybe still we must listen to it only we make a conclusion here icon_rolleyes.gif

And between,if F113 edge out DD12 maybe DD15 still can win F113 whistling.gif
F113 is around rm13k plus and which I think a little more expensive than DD12.
But DD15 should be around rm15k plus  sweat.gif
If i choose expensive sub,maybe i will decrease the budget for speakers  sad.gif
If not later BINI  mad.gif


Added on December 28, 2009, 12:20 am20K for Paradigm sub?
NO  shakehead.gif
My budget for subwoofer is around rm12k till rm14k.
Hopefully not more than rm15k.
If not,need to eat nasi bungkus for few months  sad.gif
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bro, i have also not tested both DD12 and F113 and certain not a pro too.. but there was a respected sub guru called craigsub from tweakcity who tested almost all the best subs available at that time, he had placed DD18 on top of his list until F113 was launched and took the top spot. Afterthat many more new subs overtook DD18 too.

i know craigsub's opinion should only be used as a guideline but DD12 is clearly not in the same league. Maybe u should try DD18 if u want a fair comparison. Anyway if u r interested u can have a read here http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=768150 scroll down and look at post #8 ... F113 is the only 'small' size sub that could hang around with the big boys

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