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post May 17 2009, 02:05 AM, updated 17y ago

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Liverpool Football Club



Founded: 1892

Founded by: John Houlding

Nickname: The Reds

Ground : Anfield

Chairman:
Tom Hicks (co-chairman)
George Gillett (co-chairman)

Manager :
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Rafael Benítez

Assistant Manager:
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Sammy Lee

Captain:
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Steven Gerrard

Vice Captain:
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Jamie Carragher


League Champions -----> 18
1900-01 ; 1905-06 ; 1921-22 ; 1922-23 ; 1946-47 ; 1963-64 ; 1965-66
1972-73 ; 1975-76 ; 1976-77 ; 1978-79 ; 1979-80 ; 1981-82 ; 1982-83
1983-84 ; 1985-86 ; 1987-88 ; 1989-90

Division Two Winners -----> 4
1893-94 ; 1895-96 ; 1904-05 ; 1961-62

Lancashire League Winners -----> 1
1892-93

Football Association Challenge Cup Winners -----> 7
1964-65 ; 1973-74 ; 1985-86 ; 1988-89 ; 1991-92
2000-01 ; 2005-06

League Cup Winners -----> 7
1980-81 ; 1981-82 ; 1982-83 ; 1983-84 ; 1994-95
2000-01 ; 2002-03

Football Association Charity Shield Winners -----> 15
1964* ; 1965* ; 1966 ; 1974 ; 1976 ; 1977* ; 1979 ; 1980 ; 1982
1986* ; 1988 ; 1989 ; 1990* ; 2001 ; 2006 ( * shared)

European Cup Winners -----> 5
1976-77 ; 1977-78 ; 1980-81 ; 1983-84 ; 2004-05

UEFA Cup Winners -----> 3
1972-73 ; 1975-76 ; 2000-01

European Super Cup Winners -----> 3
1977 ; 2001 ; 2005

Super Cup Winners -----> 1
1985-86

Carlsberg Trophy -----> 3
1997-98 ; 1998-99 ; 1999-2000

Reserves Division One Winners -----> 16
1956-57 ; 1968-69 ; 1969-70 ; 1970-71 ; 1972-73 ; 1973-74 ; 1974-75
1975-76 ; 1976-77 ; 1978-79 ; 1980-81 ; 1981-82 ; 1983-84 ; 1984-85
1989-90 ; 1999-2000

FA Youth Cup Winners -----> 3
1995-96 ; 2005-06 ; 2006-07

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When you walk through a storm hold your head up high
And don't be afraid of the dark.
At the end of a storm is a golden sky
And the sweet silver song of a lark.
Walk on through the wind,
Walk on through the rain,
Tho' your dreams be tossed and blown.
Walk on, walk on with hope in your heart
And you'll never walk alone,
You'll never, ever walk alone.

Walk on, walk on with hope in your heart
And you'll never walk alone,
You'll never, ever walk alone.




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post May 17 2009, 02:07 AM

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The History


1959 - Shankly appointed manager

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December 1st 1959 is a date that will forever be etched in the annals of Anfield history. For it was on this day that Liverpool Football Club announced Huddersfield Town boss Bill Shankly would be their new manager in succession to Phil Taylor.


On his appointment he released 24 players and began to reshape the team.Promotion to the First Division was achieved in 1961–62, and the club won the League for the first time in 17 years in 1963–64. Another League title followed in 1965–66, after the club had won their first FA Cup the previous season. The club won the League and UEFA Cup in 1972–73 and the FA Cup again a year later; after this, Shankly retired and was replaced by his assistant Bob Paisley.Paisley was even more successful than Shankly and the club won the League and UEFA Cup in 1975–76, his second season as manager. The following season they retained the League title, won the European Cup for the first time, but lost in the FA Cup final, narrowly missing out on a treble. Liverpool retained the European Cup the next season, and the season after won the League again with 68 points—a domestic record, conceding only 16 goals in 42 league matches.During the nine seasons Paisley managed the club, Liverpool won 21 trophies, including three European Cups, a UEFA Cup, six league titles and three consecutive League Cups. The only domestic trophy to elude him was the FA Cup.

Paisley retired in 1983 and (as Shankly had done) handed the reins to his assistant, veteran coach Joe Fagan. The succession of coaches came from the Anfield Boot Room where the Liverpool staff discussed strategy and allegedly stored gin.[10] Liverpool won three trophies in Fagan's first season in charge: the League, League Cup and European Cup, becoming the first English side to win three trophies in a season.Liverpool reached the European Cup final again in 1985. The match was against Juventus at the Heysel Stadium. Before kick-off, disaster struck: Liverpool fans breached a fence which separated the two groups of supporters and charged the Juventus fans. The resulting weight of people caused a retaining wall to collapse, killing 39 fans, mostly Italians. The match was played regardless and Liverpool lost 1–0 to Juventus. English clubs were consequently banned from participating in European competition for five years; Liverpool received a ten-year ban, which was later reduced to six years. Fourteen of their fans received convictions for involuntary manslaughter.
The statue of former manager Bill Shankly, outside Anfield

Fagan resigned after the disaster and Kenny Dalglish was appointed as player-manager.During his reign, the club won another three League Championships and two FA Cups, including a League and Cup "Double" in 1985–86. Liverpool's success was overshadowed by the Hillsborough Disaster: in an FA Cup semi-final against Nottingham Forest on 15 April 1989, hundreds of Liverpool fans were crushed. 94 fans died that day; the 95th victim died in hospital from his injuries four days later, and the 96th died nearly four years later without regaining consciousness. After the Hillsborough tragedy there was a governmental review of stadium safety. Known as the Taylor Report, it paved the way for legislation which required top-division teams to have all-seater stadiums. The report ruled that the main reason for the disaster was overcrowding due to a failure of police control.Dalglish cited the Hillsborough Disaster and its repercussions as the reason for his resignation in 1991. He was replaced by former player Graeme Souness. Apart from winning the FA Cup in 1992, Souness achieved little success and was replaced by a former member of the "Boot Room", Roy Evans. Evans fared little better: a League Cup victory in 1995 was his only trophy. Gérard Houllier was appointed as co-manager in 1998–99, but was left in sole charge after Evans resigned in November 1998.

In his second season in charge Liverpool won a unique treble of the FA Cup, League Cup and UEFA Cup.In the 2001-02 season, during which Houllier underwent major heart surgery, Liverpool finished second behind Arsenal.The following seasons failed to live up to expectations and Houllier was replaced by Rafael Benítez. The club finished fifth in his first season in charge but won the UEFA Champions League by beating Milan 3–2 in a penalty shootout after the match finished 3–3.The following season Liverpool finished third with 82 points—their highest total since 1988. They won the FA Cup as they had the Champions League victory the previous season, by beating West Ham United in penalty shootout after the match finished at 3–3. In 2006–07, the club's search for investment came to an end when American businessmen George Gillett and Tom Hicks became the owners of Liverpool in a deal which valued the club and its outstanding debts at £218.9 million. That season, the club reached another Champions League final, but this time lost 2–1 to Milan
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Liverpool Squad Season 08/09
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First team players

Goalkeepers:
Pepe Reina
Diego Cavalieri
Charles Itandje (vanish)

Defenders:
Andrea Dossena
Emiliano Insúa
Fábio Aurélio
Daniel Agger
Sami Hyypiä * joining BAYER LEVERKUSEN in summer*
Jamie Carragher
Martin Škrtel
Philipp Degen (vanish)
Álvaro Arbeloa
Stephen Darby
Martin Kelly

Midfielders:
Albert Riera
Xabi Alonso
Yossi Benayoun
Steven Gerrard
Javier Mascherano
Lucas Leiva
Damien Plessis
Jay Spearing
Nabil El Zhar

Strikers:
Fernando Torres
Dirk Kuyt
David N'Gog
Ryan Babel

Players Out On Loan:
10 FW Andriy Voronin (at Hertha Berlin until the end of 2008–09 season)
16 MF Jermaine Pennant (at Portsmouth until the end of 2008–09 season)
33 MF Sebastián Leto (at Olympiacos until the end of 2008–09 season)
34 DF Martin Kelly (at Huddersfield Town until the end of 2008–09 season)
35 MF Ryan Flynn (at Wrexham until 26 April 2009)
38 FW Craig Lindfield (at Accrington Stanley until the end of 2008–09 season)
40 GK David Martin (at Leicester City until the end of 2008–09 season)
42 GK Péter Gulácsi (at Hereford United until the end of 2008–09 season)
— MF Astrit Ajdarević (at Leicester City until the end of 2008–09 season)
— MF Paul Anderson (at Nottingham Forest until the end of 2008–09 season)
— FW Jordy Brouwer (at RKC Waalwijk until the end of 2008–09 season)
— MF Adam Hammill (at Barnsley until the end of 2008–09 season)
— DF Jack Hobbs (at Leicester City until the end of 2008–09 season)Signed Permanently
— GK Nikolay Mihaylov (at FC Twente until the end of 2009–10 season)
— DF Miki Roque (at FC Cartagena until the end of 2008–09 season)
— DF Robbie Threlfall (at Stockport County until the end of 2008–09 season)






Season 09/10 Fixtures

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LFC Top Scorer for Premier League


Steven "Captain Marvel" Gerrard 16
Fernando "El Nino" Torres 13
Black Horse Dirk Kuyt 12
Yossi "Super Sub" Benayoun 7
Robbie "I m back to Spurs" Keane 5
"Red Cards Generator" Xabi Alonso 4
Albert Riera 3
David N'gog 2
Ryan Babel 3
Sami Hyypia 1
Andrea "I Only Score The 4th Goal" Dossena 1
Daniel Agger 1
Lucas Leiva 1


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The Quotes


Rafa Benitez

On Jose Mourinho,Pre-match press conference before Chelsea 2nd leg
"He is a good manager,yes, but he will lose tomorrow"

On finishing fifth
"I know being in the top four of the Premier League is very important, but you will never see any club honours list recording an historic fourth place in the Premier League."

On King Luis' "ghost goal"
"Luis said to me that as he turned away, he was right on the line, and he said the ball was over the line. And after the game my secretary Sheila, who was sitting right in line in the main stand, said to me that the ball had crossed the line. She is a very honest person and that was good enough for me. It was a goal."

On Robben's play acting
"Sorry i must hurry i am to the hospital to see Robben, maybe his neck is broke, maybe if Reina had of reacted like that when gallas touched him his neck would be broke also"

On Robbie "God" Fowler
"People can talk about having a lot of money to buy players but we've just signed a player with a passion and a heart for this club that no amount of money can buy."

"I think he is going to be a big asset for us. I know he is glad to have signed as he has taught me a new English phrase about being over the moon!"

In response to rumours over his future at anfield and a possible move to Real Madrid
I am very happy here for sure, my family is very happy here too, we are settled very well. my youngest daughter speaks alot of english now, more so even than spanish, and she speaks with scouse accent so i cannot understand her (beaming smile) but she also speaks alot of spanish, or sometimes even gets mixed up and speaks alot of spanglish

In response to Fergie's claim that Liverpool only play 5 minutes football in the victory
"If we can win a game in five minutes against a top team just think how much more terrible damage there would be if we played for the other 85 minutes."


On King Luis
"He's always a player from whom you can expect something different. If you're struggling in a game you can either do two things, send your centre back up front as a centre forward or use Luis Garcia between the lines."

On Liverpool Supporters
"Before, I said that they were maybe the best supporters in England.Now maybe they are the best supporters in Europe if not the World."

Humorous reply to the media on Fowler
Q:"If Robbie scores the winner against Chelsea, will he get a new contract?"

A:" No. No he won't .......He is cup tied."

On his poor English(1st season)
I'm not here to speak English.I'm here to win trophies.

'As I have said many times, I've come here to win trophies, not to learn English'.


His typical, repetitive answers
"this is our idea"

"....we will have more control over situations, and this will give us more possiblilities...."

We could have score more.

We only think of the next game.

"he has good game intelligence"

"...for sure

"we have more options"

On Gerrard's saga
"When people talk to me about Gerrard and say he wants to win trophies, I say, 'me too'. I want to win trophies, I am not here to learn English, I am here for winning trophies."

"I am not in favour of selling him and we are building a great team around him because we want him to be the skipper who wins the most titles in Liverpool's history."

"We are preparing a special weightlifting plan for Gerrard's shoulders because we want him to lift a lot of trophies for Liverpool in the next few years.

Pre-Chelsea press conference
Journo: Are you wearing your lucky jacket?

Rafa: No, it's normal. I have confidence in my team, not my jacket!

Post-Chelsea press conference
Journo: Were you confident when you saw Chelsea's team sheet?

Rafa: I was confident when I saw my own team sheet!

On rivalry with the Mancs:
I understand it. It’s similar to the rivalry with Everton but this time it’s about two of the top sides and it’s very important we win this game.


On the linesman of the Bolton game
"It's the first time I've seen a linesman who wants to be a star"

On paying 7m for Pennant
"I do not know many right wingers in this country who are better than Pennant playing in the Premier. Who else, (Shaun) Wright-Phillips at £21 million?

On the journalists
"After this they started changing words and at the end of the day you are in jail!

On catching Chelsea in the league table
"If you start counting your chickens then, at the end, you will have problems."

On the speculation about Henry before the match against Arsenal
"I even heard rumours this week that Henry was supposedly coming to Liverpool. All I can say is that he is coming tomorrow but will be going back to London after the game. He might come here on Tuesday as well!"

On being referred to as a tactical genius
“You cannot be a genius if you do not have good players. You can have the best tactics, but if I put all you journalists on the pitch, I’m sure we will lose.“

On Carra
"He reminds me of a hunting dog, when I want something specific done in defence he is very willing to learn. As a defender he is someone you do not want to play against, to have marking you."

On getting to grips with the Language
"I talk to carra, if you can understand him you can understand anyone."

On Anfield
"This is Anfield, they say you'll never walk alone... it's true!"

On cricket
"A lot of people say it is a fantastic game because nobody knows the rules, I say to the wife i am going to play a game and i wont be back for 5 or 10 days"

When asked about the new owners watching the game against PSV.
Reporter to Rafa: The new owners must have been really impressed with this performance/

Rafa: The players were impressive. The new owners were just watching the game.

On Crouch
"I was pleased also with Peter Crouch. We have been talking to him, before and after his nose operation, to show more confidence with his heading.

"Now it seems to have worked. Lets say that if he has a few games without scoring again, maybe we should arrange to break his nose again."

On Rotation Policy
"You know me, I like to rotate the team 99 times if I can,"

"We may be in a very good rugby town here in Toulouse. But this isn't rugby - I cannot use 15 players.

"Sadly, I've been unable to persuade Fifa, Uefa, and the Premier League to allow me to use 12 players in every game."

On Champion League group qualifying
Q : Which two teams will qualify from this group?
Rafa : This question provides me with an opportunity to use an expression I learnt the other day. I don't have a crystal ball. I cannot predict the future.

On spending for transfers
"But we have a saying in Spain that you never sell the house to buy a window. You don't spend more money than you have."

"It's easier if you've got the money to go into the transfer market. Imagine if you want to buy a jacket, if you have £1000 you can buy a good jacket, but if you have £10,000 you can buy the best"

On Mourinho
""We were good friends until we started winning, then he started changing his mind.

"It's the same with the managers of the top sides. He has good relationships with managers of teams he beats."

"He fights with the managers of the top sides. He has already started it with us, yesterday!"

Mourinho claimed that Liverpool will spend the first leg attempting to get Didier Dropba booked, with the big striker set to miss the second game if he is carded by referee Markus Merk.

"Maybe Mourinho is thinking about this because he was doing exactly the same thing two years ago over Xabi Alonso,"
When Mourinho claimed that referee missed out a penalty
"I haven't seen the replay but if he says it was a penalty, sure it was a penalty."

After Mourinho claimed that Liverpool is under pressure
"He said he does not talk about other teams, maybe he forgot this time.

In the post-match press conference when Liverpool manager Benitez was informed that Jose Mourinho had responded to Steven Gerrard's criticism of Chelsea by painting a picture of an angelic, or at least "naive", team.
Rafa:"Then I am Little Red Riding Hood,"

After Grant took over
"The only difference I see between Mourinho and Grant is in their press conferences!

On the Supporters
"At Stamford Bridge, we won in the stands, that was clear. The other supporters were with their flags, but our supporters were with their hearts. We don't need to give flags. It's easy for us."

After the match against Everton
"its hard playing against the SMALLER clubs"

On Chelsea
Q:How big a loss is Ricardo Carvalho to Chelsea?

A:If he cannot play – and remember they said the same last time – they have enough quality to replace him. I don't think he's any more important than John Terry. Before, when they lost Terry, they were saying they'd lost the best centre-back in the world. Now, Carvalho is the best centre-back in the world.

On King Kenny during the Kenny week
"Kenny Dalglish would be my first choice for Liverpool's best ever player because he was a great player with a lot of qualities."

On Torres
He can do it because he's a player with pace. This ability when you have pace is an issue. I have ability but I don't have pace so I can't beat anyone! But Torres can do it"

Rafa's jokes

On his beard
"its just because during the summer I lost my razor!"

Interviewer gets the joke but doesn't find it all that funny so he goes smiling:

"so you haven't found it since??"

"no i have found but now its broken!"

On Inter Milan
Q: What do you feel are the differences between AC Milan - a side you have faced twice in the final of this competition - and Inter?

Rafa: The difference between AC Milan and Inter is in the shirt.

On his players
"My players travel more than Willy Fogg," Benitez said to quizzical looks.
"Willy Fogg?
Around the World in 80 Days?"
"Phileas Fogg, you mean."
"Oh, yes, Phileas Fogg, sorry."

(Willy Fogg is a cartoon character laugh.gif )

On the birth of Xabi's son:
"I was preparing a new contract for his son,"

On the owner
Interviewer :Everyone is saying George Gillet is coming to watch this game tonight, does that make any difference to you or are you just focussed on that 90 minutes tomorrow?

Rafa :I think that he is not available for tomorrow so, he is not a big difference for me in my team selection.

When asked if the American owners of Liverpool will be analysing the game, he said: "
I don't know if they have a TV."

After PSV game
Irish interviewer: " Good night Rafa?" referring to the result.

Rafa: "Goodnight" with a broad smile and pretends to finish the chat


On his reaction after the goal
Q:One thing that surprised me was that after Kuyt scored and leveled the match, you didn’t jump out of your seat. Everyone else around you jumped right off their seats to celebrate but all you did was stand up and walk near the sideline to shout some instructions. Who were you talking to?

A:Yes, I was speaking to Sami Hyypia because we were having some problems adjusting at the back and I was trying to correct those mistakes. I believe that my job is not to jump around but to try and analyze things and find solutions to any problems we might be having.


Before Champion League clash with Arsenal
"I won't settle for any less (than victory). I have always had that mentality. Even as a child, I always hated losing at anything, chess or whatever.
"It is the same now, even at home. Just ask my wife. She says I never let the children win at anything. OK, sometimes I go easy on the younger one, but not the other. She is old enough and only wins on merit.

After 0-2 victory over Fulham
"We have a problem with Sami. He has a knock in the head. He was dizzy so I asked him if he'd seen the third goal! He just looked at me (with a confused look).

On Gerrard twisted his neck during training
The other day, he wanted to play but he was only able to look to the right, so I told him he could play as a left winger! We'll see if he can turn his head round and look the other way now.

"We will talk together, with the doctor. The player will say he wants to play, but there's an easy way of finding out whether he's fit. I will come up and tap him on the left shoulder and if he turns to face me without any pain, we will know he can play."

On Riise
"Fabio will be out for three weeks, so Riise knows he has to be ready and give everything for us. The best solution would be for him to score at Stamford Bridge... in the right goal.

On the late comebacks
“If it continues like this I will have to seek a neurologist — I don’t like these late comebacks.

"The last-minute goal is bad for the heart, but a great way to win. Do I believe in fate? I believe in hard work. In Spain we say 'luck is in love with people who work hard'. We work hard, so hopefully we'll have more luck."

On defending Crouch in the game
It's about beating him in the air, so we will use Mascherano against him! laugh.gif

On Ferguson
Journalist: Some comments were made by Alex Ferguson about Robbie Keane and the price you paid for him - were they ill-timed?
Rafa: I think he was surprised about the price because he was cheap. They paid around £30m for Berbatov, Rooney or Ferdinand - or even £35m for Tevez. That is maybe where the surprise came from.

"Or there is another option. That Mr Ferguson organises the fixtures in his office and sends it to us and everyone will know and cannot complain. That is simple."

He is the only manager in the league that cannot be punished for these things.

"All managers need to know is that only Mr Ferguson can talk about the fixtures, can talk about referees and nothing happens.

“I try not to talk too much, but all I can do when I speak is to defend my own team."

He has been playing these kind of mind games for many years. Nobody has ever said anything against him or stood up to him. It seems like he has a licence to do these sort of things.


Press conference ahead of the Newcastle match
(conversation moves on to the previous midweek Champions League Semi-Finals)

Reporter: Obviously in the middle of the week there were the Champions League Semi-Finals...did you watch those games...

Rafa: Yes I was watching the games but I will not say anything...

Reporter: Was it difficult for you to watch them...

Rafa: No, it was easy. I was in front of the telly (makes gesture of wide-screen tv) it was a big telly! It was easy!!


On Hyypia

I think Liverpool are losing a legend.For years he has been so good. He has scored important goals and has been very, very good in defence. Clearly we are losing an important player.

Sammy Lee
On Alex Ferguson and Sam Allardyce attacks on Rafa
"This is not Britain's Got Talent; you don't win anything for being popular, but our manager is not arrogant. He is astute, learned, educated and his attention to detail is fantastic. We are all a bit sensitive to criticism but he knows what he is doing, why he is doing it and who he is gesticulating at!"




Steven Gerrard
We are Liverpool Football Club and the expectations are so high.



Fernando Torres
I feel flattered at being nominated for the FIFA World Player. It is a proud moment for me, and an incentive to keep on working hard.I want to win trophies with Liverpool.

19th June 2009
For me the biggest privilege in Europe is the red shirt of Liverpool.

When asked about the departure of Ronaldo to Real Madrid.
We won't win the title because Manchester United have become weaker but because we have become better. To look at it like that is a loser's mentality and that is not the way of Liverpool Football Club.


Xabi Alonso

On his transfer saga
[The fans] couldn't have done more to show me how they felt... If I went out for lunch or a coffee, there was always someone who would come over and say, 'We'd love you to stay'. I'm just glad that, in the end, nothing came of it [the transfer] because it wasn't something I ever asked for."


Sami Hyypia

"I think it will only be after I've finally left that I'll be able to sit back and realise what we've done in my ten years. It's hard to take in now. It is nice to be remembered here."

"I'd like to come back to Liverpool one day as a coach, and it was great to hear the manager would like me to return,"

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Match Highlights


LIVERPOOL 3 - 1 TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR



Match Highlight:
http://www.mediafire.com/?wtth0m0xjjq

Goals :
http://rapidshare.com/files/236775567/Goal...38.Torres17.wmv
http://rapidshare.com/files/236775187/Goal...38.HuttonOG.wmv
http://rapidshare.com/files/236774745/Cg04...L.R38.Keane.wmv
http://rapidshare.com/files/236782506/Goal....Benayoun09.wmv

Special Highlights:
Sami Farewell
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/media/free_0809_...irwell_high.asx


Fullmatch

http://www.mininova.org/tor/2630567

LIVERPOOL
Reina, Aurelio, Carragher, Agger, Skrtel, Benayoun, Alonso, Mascherano, Kuyt, Gerrard (captain), Torres.
Subs - Hyypia, Insua, Leiva, Ngog, Degen, Cavalieri, Riera

TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR
Gomes, Assou-Ekotto, King, Corluka, Hutton, Bale, Jenas, Modric, Zokora, Defoe, Keane (captain).
Subs - Pavlyuchenko, Chimbonda, Gunter, Cudicini, Campbell, Bentley, Bent

Referee : Phil Walton

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REDS AROUND THE WORLD: MALAYSIA
Jonno Lim, Malaysia 13 January 2009

Meet 32-year-old events manager Jonno Lim, who helps run an independent supporters’ club and gets up at the crack of dawn to catch the Reds in action with hundreds of other fans in a crowded Malaysian bar.


Like most things, my association with the Malaysian independent supporters' club started with a few beers. After meeting on the fans' forum Red and White Kop (RAWK), we decided that as there were a fair number of us Reds in the same corner of the world, the least we could do was watch a game together in a bar.

Liverpool ran home 3-0 winners over Everton at Goodison Park that day in August 2003, with Michael Owen scoring a brace and Harry Kewell getting the third goal just before the final whistle.

Having supported the club from afar for so long, it felt very special to be enjoying a Liverpool victory with a few like-minded people. I had watched the Reds with friends before, but nothing like this. Even the owner of the Boardwalk on the outskirts of Kuala Lumpur was a Reds fanatic, so it became known as the closest thing any Malaysian Red could get to the special Anfield atmosphere.

There are so many Liverpool fans in this part of the world, and they all have their own story to tell. Some adopt the Reds because of their history, others simply get drawn in by the miracle of Istanbul in 2005 or the breathtaking 'Gerrard Final' of 2006.

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The only reason I can offer for following the Reds is probably quite similar to most people's - all of my family are massive Liverpool fans. It goes way back to the seventies and beyond, so it was a no-brainer for me to be the same as them.

My earliest memory is of Michael Thomas and Ian Rush securing the FA Cup for Liverpool with great goals against Sunderland at Wembley in 1992. I can also vividly remember Neil 'Razor' Ruddock holding his head after scoring a late equaliser in the dramatic 3-3 draw with Manchester United in January 1994.

Nigel Clough scored twice that day, but the look on Ruddock's face will remain with me forever - the ball hit him on the top of his head before going in the net and he seemed in quite a lot of pain while celebrating his decisive goal at Anfield. I couldn't stop laughing.

As time went by, my Liverpool obsession grew. We experienced many joyous Saturday and Sunday nights at the Boardwalk over the years and celebrated many great Liverpool victories there. But our friend, Bala, soon told us he had to sell his bar and we were left with nowhere to watch our beloved Reds during the early hours of the morning over here in Malaysia.

And when the new owner of the Boardwalk told us they would not be opening for the 2007 Champions League final clash with AC Milan due to the fact it would be kicking off at 3.30am over here, we knew that we had to act quickly to find a new venue.

After a long and frustrating search, we finally found a small pub that would open for the match. We got in touch with our friends and fellow supporters to join us for the big game, as we knew that whenever Liverpool was involved in a big European game, it was guaranteed to be something special.

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We only really expected about 50 people to turn up at the most, but the bar ended up being crammed full with about 200 fans, all screaming at the screen, willing on the Reds. We were all disappointed that Rafa's men did not win that night in Athens, but a few of us knew right then that not only did we need a bigger venue, but also a proper fan club to bring all of these Liverpool supporters together.

We called our new supporters' club 'MyRAWK', as most of us had met through RAWK, while the ‘My’ stands for Malaysia and also gives us a sense that a certain part of LFC can belong to us individually.

Things were tough at the beginning, but settling on the M Bar as our exclusive home for watching all the games helped us a lot. The owner agreed to open up at all the unsociable hours involved in supporting a club many miles away and laid on a host of generous drinks offers.

What started as a small MyRAWK blog soon turned into a full website, and before long we had Liverpool fans joining us from all over for our match-viewing parties. From local lawyers to homesick expats, tourists to ex players (Ian Rush once even joined us - that was a very special day), the M Bar is now full of fervent fans week in, week out. I usually take up the microphone at each event and am always proud to be the official master of ceremonies.

We even have our futsal team and are also in the process of setting up a full 11-a side side. Our interim team recently won our first trophy, the Christmas Cup and one day we hope to have a proper team which takes part in the local social league.

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But due to the exchange rate and distance, not many of us have been lucky enough to get over to Anfield. I am currently saving up to make the pilgrimage one day next season with a few other fans. I'm sure that once we get up close to Liverpool's hallowed home, there will be many of us who will be close to tears, as this would be nothing short of our visiting our very own Mecca.

One of our newer members, Phil, who now lives in Liverpool, always talks about how unbelievable it is that a bunch of guys who have never seen the Reds play up close can wake up in the middle of the night to support a team who are playing nearly 7,000 miles away, only to go back to bed and rise for work less than two hours later.

But none of us at MyRAWK would have it any other way. Witnessing another Liverpool victory make all the long, sleepy days in the office after a match worth it - and believe you me, there have been a lot of those in recent years.
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Documentary on Hillsborough

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this gotta be one of the best documentary on Hillsborough..though lacking abit on the S*n part i think..but its good..i suggest everyone to watch this
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. thousands of fans went to a stadium . 96 never came back . RIP .
Football Focus - 20th anniversary of Hillsborough disaster PART 1
Football Focus - 20th anniversary of Hillsborough disaster PART 2
Football Focus - 20th anniversary of Hillsborough disaster PART 3
Football Focus - 20th anniversary of Hillsborough disaster PART 4
Football Focus - 20th anniversary of Hillsborough disaster PART 5
Football Focus - 20th anniversary of Hillsborough disaster PART 6
Football Focus - 20th anniversary of Hillsborough disaster PART 7

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Let's carry on our discussion.

Let's talk about the next match instead.

No more troll, flame bait post, idiotic posts in new thread please.
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If Liverpool achieved 86 points with 2 losses, it could mean champion already if look back the history of league points. But MU simply is too good and on form since the second half season.
Anyway, it is still a new milestone for Liverpool to go until this later stage.

Now it is more about securing second place for today match.
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the race for the 19th title will be the most important in the club history.
hopefully our 19th title will be the first of a glorious era and i hope it will start from next season.

Liverpool should win the remaining two fixtures with style so that we can carry the momentum next august and even can carry the record (of scoring and winning and not losing) until the season after that!
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the race for the 19th title will be the most important in the club history.
hopefully our 19th title will be the first of a glorious era and i hope it will start from next season.

Liverpool should win the remaining two fixtures with style so that we can carry the momentum next august and even can carry the record (of scoring and winning and not losing) until the season after that!
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My faith in liverpool football club will never die down,
We have had a fantastic season, i've watched 2 liverpool games and 3 arsenal games this season live, and it's been the best footballing season for ages in my opinion.
Liverpool ave put up a good fight, and as long as we're contesting for the title, I'm happy.
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well for todays game lets just hpe rafa plays his best squad..i wan to see insua play as well..quite sure he will be our number 1 leftback next season..
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With rumours flying around, claiming Riera is heading the exit and the fact that he was not even on the bench last game is worrying...I hope I can see him on the XI today. biggrin.gif
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reira heading to the exit?? i thought babel mite but not him..if v sign silva, riera could be the backup..but if v sign tevez wer is he going to play?? in kuyt position..rafa is a big fan of 4-2-3-1 formation i i myself thing that it is a good formation..but wer will tevez play?? will kuyt be benched then??
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Title has gone.

But there's always next season. Come on you Reds! cool2.gif
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well...later i dunno wil liverpool fight hard or not...hope they can still perform the best although title is gone..
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I think we should seal the 2nd place as fast as possible and rest players like Torres , Alonso and the rest of the Spaniard who are going to feature in the summer matches with Spain.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 17 2009, 09:56 AM)
If Liverpool achieved 86 points with 2 losses, it could mean champion already if look back the history of league points. But MU simply is too good and on form since the second half season.
Anyway, it is still a new milestone for Liverpool to go until this later stage.

Now it is more about securing second place for today match.
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Not only that, Liverpool drew far too many matches, total of 11 as of writing this post.

There are some matches where Liverpool shouldn't have drawn like the home games against Stoke City (0-0 draw), Hull City (2-2 draw), West Ham United (also 0-0 draw). These games were early part of the season, which Liverpool (right now) should looked back and wonder why they didn't won those matches.

If Liverpool won those matches above instead of drawing, outcome of the season would different.
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Just win today by 2 goals then play Nemeth, Pacheco and Hypia next week.
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QUOTE(TheWhacker @ May 17 2009, 04:59 PM)
Not only that, Liverpool drew far too many matches, total of 11 as of writing this post.

There are some matches where Liverpool shouldn't have drawn like the home games against Stoke City (0-0 draw), Hull City (2-2 draw), West Ham United (also 0-0 draw). These games were early part of the season, which Liverpool (right now) should looked back and wonder why they didn't won those matches.

If Liverpool won those matches above instead of drawing, outcome of the season would different.
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yep! agree on it! we draw too much .. and it would be totally diff if we have won those 3 match!
but.. we cant change anything now.!
wat liv can do now is refresh back and improve on it!
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Nah, I say forget about those draws and losses, but hey, at least if you look back at what Rafa said beginning of the season, it looks pretty well, if you know what I mean =P
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Just win today by 2 goals then play Nemeth, Pacheco and Hypia next week.
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QUOTE(gidlcin @ May 17 2009, 05:37 PM)
yep! agree on it! we draw too much .. and it would be totally diff if we have won those 3 match!
but.. we cant change anything now.!
wat liv can do now is refresh back and improve on it!
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What Liverpool can do right now onwards is to take matches seriously, focus on the match at hand instead of thinking next match in the future. I can't remember which match was it when Rafa rest key players on the bench, which result having a draw where Liverpool can actually win it.

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Liverpool should go all out to win tonight's match, secure maximum points possible. I think Champion's League format is the same, 1st and 2nd place in the BPL will avoid the qualifying rounds.
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QUOTE(TheWhacker @ May 17 2009, 06:29 PM)
What Liverpool can do right now onwards is to take matches seriously, focus on the match at hand instead of thinking next match in the future. I can't remember which match was it when Rafa rest key players on the bench, which result having a draw where Liverpool can actually win it.
Liverpool should go all out to win tonight's match, secure maximum points possible. I think Champion's League format is the same, 1st and 2nd place in the BPL will avoid the qualifying rounds.
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now its 1/2/3 avoid qualifying.
4th go qualifying.

but yea, hyppia better play next week as a sending off in front of the kop.
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It is sad to see Sami Hyypia leaving....he has won almost all the Cup...UEFA Cup, CL, FA, Lg Cup, Charity Shield... just that only one Premiership Title that he unable to win it before he leaves

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The Reds XI in full is: Reina, Carragher, Agger, Arbeloa, Insua, Mascherano, Lucas, Kuyt, Gerrard, Benayoun, Torres. Subs: Cavalieri, Dossena, Alonso, Riera, Babel, Ngog, Skrtel.
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y alonso is not playin??

Added on May 17, 2009, 9:01 pmstevei G!!!!!

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cme on guys!! score more..gerrard got now 2 more goals ne to be top scorer
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The young Basque midfielder has became Rafa Benitez's top summer transfer target...

Liverpool look set to swoop for Athletic Bilbao midfielder Javi Martinez in the summer, and will test the Basque club's resolve with a £12m bid.

According to reports from The News of the World, Coach Rafa Benitez has had the 20-year old playmaker watched by his chief scouts on a number of occasions, and now want to add Martinez to the already prominent list of Spaniards plying their trade in Merseyside.

Xabi Alonso's future continues to be a source of much speculation, and it is thought that Benitez is looking to Martinez to replace Alonso should,  Real Madrid take steps to tempt him to the Bernabeu.

The tall, cultured midfielder is closing in on 100 top-flight games for Bilbao despite his tender age, and this season has one again shows his class and ability to play at a higher level.

Benitez's spies took in the Copa Del Rey final defeat to Barcelona on Wednesday evening, and although Martinez has a buy out clause in his contract in the region of £24m, it is believed that they would be willing to do business at around half of that sum.

If he were to make the move to Anfield, the Spanish Under-21 star would join Alvaro Arbeloa, Fernando Torres, Xabi Alonso, Jose Reina and Albert Riera as the Spanish contingent grows under former Valencia boss Rafa Benitez.
Another playmaker. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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Stupid linesman...Good job Lucas tongue.gif

Kuyt scored!!!!!!!!

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aiyo....lucas missed a golden chance...
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carra quarrel with arbeloa doh.gif

Carra pulled arbeloa up and arbeloa pushed carra...OMG... doh.gif

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Like the commentators said, rafa should be happy to see his players quarreling over the match even when they have nothing to play for now...The mentality is superb!
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ALonso trying his trademark long shot...too bad Kiely saw it
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Ok...is carra pushed arbeloa 1st....then arbeloa pushed back... sweat.gif
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hahaha Carra was scolding arbeloa for not marking the striker tight enough that due to a shot by the striker himself.

But Arbeloa sometimes also kinda love to be in dream land haha
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Arbeloa ran out of position numerous time tonight...Keep moving center and leaving space on the right flank for the winger to exploit... Alonso and Agger as peacemaker... lol..+ 1 for them biggrin.gif

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Good game that, happy with the 2 goal win. Next week, hoping to see Nemeth.

The spat between arby and carra was unnecessary but they're big men, they can deal with it. Carra in particular is probably still gutted for losing out on the title. Good on Arby for sticking up for himself. Like i said, they're big boys.

But Lucas was immense today! Now that the title chase is over, it looks like the pressure is off and he was more relaxed and confident with his game. Last minute ditch, neat passing, box to box run, and phenemonal engine. Unlucky not to score then, that was hell of a cheeky run through 3 brom players. Going to be massive player im sure of it.
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agger was solid today n lucas keep improved...
great to see insua play also....
we will do better next season with this mentality....

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Good game that, happy with the 2 goal win. Next week, hoping to see Nemeth.

The spat between arby and carra was unnecessary but they're big men, they can deal with it. Carra in particular is probably still gutted for losing out on the title. Good on Arby for sticking up for himself. Like i said, they're big boys.

But Lucas was immense today! Now that the title chase is over, it looks like the pressure is off and he was more relaxed and confident with his game. Last minute ditch, neat passing, box to box run, and phenemonal engine. Unlucky not to score then, that was hell of a cheeky run through 3 brom players. Going to be massive player im sure of it.
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Carra wanted to keep a clean sheet.

How it happened?

He pulled arbeloa up and gave the scolding and pushed him and arbeloa pushed him back...Alonso came in and be the peacemaker and Agger dragged Arbeloa away...

As for Lucas, I have to say that he played well tonight... Sad not to see riera playing...

Hyypia as captain for the next game rclxm9.gif

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Yea...I was about to say this.They keep chanting and clapping whenever their team try to score...They were behind their team all the time...Did you see anyone of them leaving the stadium earlier? NO! thumbup.gif

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Carra wanted to keep a clean sheet.

How it happened?

He pulled arbeloa up and gave the scolding and pushed him and arbeloa pushed him back...Alonso came in and be the peacemaker and Agger dragged Arbeloa away...

As for Lucas, I have to say that he played well tonight... Sad not to see riera playing...

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Yea...I was about to say this.They keep chanting and clapping whenever their team try to score...They were behind their team all the time...Did you see anyone of them leaving the stadium earlier? NO! thumbup.gif
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Carra wanted to keep a clean sheet.

How it happened?

He pulled arbeloa up and gave the scolding and pushed him and arbeloa pushed him back...Alonso came in and be the peacemaker and Agger dragged Arbeloa away...

As for Lucas, I have to say that he played well tonight... Sad not to see riera playing...

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Yea...I was about to say this.They keep chanting and clapping whenever their team try to score...They were behind their team all the time...Did you see anyone of them leaving the stadium earlier? NO! thumbup.gif
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Dont think he pulled him up, he was just giving him a hairdryer and then Arby pushed him away, then Carra pushed him etc. Totally unnecessary from Carra, no reason to humiliate your teammate like that. But i can understand it, we lost the league and Arby attitude tonight was a little 'relaxed', Carra must have been frustrated seeing that.
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lucas replacing gerrard in 3 4 years. possible?
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QUOTE(Vagine @ May 17 2009, 10:48 PM)
lucas replacing gerrard in 3 4 years. possible?
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QUOTE(Vagine @ May 17 2009, 10:48 PM)
lucas replacing gerrard in 3 4 years. possible?
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He wont be like Gerrard i dont think, he'll be a different breed of midfielder. He has greater discipline and intelligence than Gerrard was at the same age. Its like a combo of Cesc + Gerrard + Iniesta. Hopefully he'll be the Lucas! haha
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QUOTE(Vagine @ May 17 2009, 10:48 PM)
lucas replacing gerrard in 3 4 years. possible?
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Didn't watch the game due to i have to attend my friend's wedding dinner. Anyway 2-0 for me it's a fair result.

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QUOTE(popsoul @ May 17 2009, 11:23 PM)
Hopefully  smile.gif

Didn't watch the game due to i have to attend my friend's wedding dinner. Anyway 2-0 for me it's a fair result.

Next up, white hart lane. Oh Robbie Keane  sweat.gif
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good game..actually was impress wif lucas n agger..lucas seems more n more confident. n that run quite good as well..agger was calm n try to bring the ball as high as possible. reina oso dis well with the 1st half save..nice reflex save..gerrard was just being gerrard scoring n assisting as well..wanted so much for him to score more..alonso also tried his trademark kick but keeper saw it. feel kinda sorry for WBA for getting relegated..all season they played attacking even though they were in the relegation battle. hats off to their supporters for clapping n chanting at their team till the end..they didnt even walk out..thats wat u call passion and spirit for the club u support..
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was really hoping lucas would score after the good run but kiely saved.. sigh.. the lad has a bright future if he keeps this up.. btw,not many commented on this but i think torres had a quiet game. credits to west brom defenders for marking him well
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QUOTE(Clairvoyant @ May 17 2009, 11:33 PM)
good game..actually was impress wif lucas n agger..lucas seems more n more confident. n that run quite good as well..agger was calm n try to bring the ball as high as possible. reina oso dis well with the 1st half save..nice reflex save..gerrard was just being gerrard scoring n assisting as well..wanted so much for him to score more..alonso also tried his trademark kick but keeper saw it.  feel kinda sorry for WBA for getting relegated..all season they played attacking even though they were in the relegation battle. hats off to their supporters for clapping n chanting at their team till the end..they didnt even walk out..thats wat u call passion and spirit for the club u support..
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ok, so now all of u guys suddenly started praising lucas shakehead.gif ..he will like i said become a great player for liverpool in the future if he not leave next season..
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ok, so now all of u guys suddenly started praising lucas  shakehead.gif ..he will like i said become a great player for liverpool in the future if he not leave next season..
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Oh ya it's Anfield. We lost to Roman Pavlyuchenko's last minute goal.
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Now everyone claims that they always believe in Lucas in becoming a great player...Earlier, everyone want him to leave... biggrin.gif
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Now everyone claims that they always believe in Lucas in becoming a great player...Earlier, everyone want him to leave... biggrin.gif
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moral support...haha!...good to see we get 2 goals...
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QUOTE(harvster @ May 17 2009, 11:50 PM)
oioi.. i think i wanna dig up old thread and find the comment i posted moths back praising lucas. vmad.gif
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Dont sensitive la bro...I m generalizing the rest of us...Most of us here want him to leave.Now, we hope him to become the next gerrard.... tongue.gif

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Dont sensitive la bro...I m merely generalize the rest of us...Most of us here want him to leave.Now, we hope him to become the next gerrard.... tongue.gif
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hahaha. i know la.. but then he wont be the next gerrard.. he is a diff type of player.. mpre to the fabregas/iniesta mould. but needs to improve more going forward.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ May 17 2009, 11:48 PM)
Now everyone claims that they always believe in Lucas in becoming a great player...Earlier, everyone want him to leave... biggrin.gif
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he's good but not great.....imo whistling.gif
won't be like gerrard. diff kind of player. his passing need to improve more. maybe learn from alonso? brows.gif

anyway, good game. would like to see hyppia next match. if nemeth play also good.
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QUOTE(harvster @ May 17 2009, 11:53 PM)
hahaha. i know la.. but then he wont be the next gerrard.. he is a diff type of player.. mpre to the fabregas/iniesta mould. but needs to improve more going forward.
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I totally agree with this. Gerrard is more of a battering ram, his play is direct, relying on pace and power. Gerrard leads attacks, and mostly end up scoring them himself lol. Lucas is more disciplined and intelligent than Gerrard was at the same age. I agree Lucas is more similar to Cesc, Iniesta or Pirlo. They're more of a support type of players, they're pop up everywhere supporting attacks and keeps the ball rolling none stop. Today he played his best attacking game yet, how many times he ended up inside the box ? You will hardly see Alonso inside the box, but Lucas when he's up for it, is very aggressive and highly mobile at supporting attacks. Hopefully he gets another run next week, defo looking forward to seeing him more next season - now that he's got more exprerience, and maturity.

We have 3 very unique CMs atm. Masc is a destroyer, Alonso is more of sit back and split defences with his passes, Lucas is a mobile support type, and theres Gerrard too but i dont think he now counts as a CM.

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I totally agree with this. Gerrard is more of a battering ram, his play is direct, relying on pace and power. Gerrard leads attacks, and mostly end up scoring them himself lol. Lucas is more disciplined and intelligent than Gerrard was at the same age. I agree Lucas is more similar to Cesc, Iniesta or Pirlo. They're more of a support type of players, they're pop up everywhere supporting attacks and keeps the ball rolling none stop. Today he played his best attacking game yet, how many times he ended up inside the box ? You will hardly see Alonso inside the box, but Lucas when he's up for it, is very aggressive and direct at supporting attacks. Hopefully he gets another run next week, defo looking forward to seeing him more next season - now that he's got more exprerience, and maturity.
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I'd say Gerrard is a one-of-a-kind player. You don't find many players that play a similar style and role as him. The closest I could think of is probably Michael Ballack in his younger years. You need plenty of determination and work rate for a player like that.
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I'd say Gerrard is a one-of-a-kind player. You don't find many players that play a similar style and role as him. The closest I could think of is probably Michael Ballack in his younger years. You need plenty of determination and work rate for a player like that.
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QUOTE(blinky @ May 18 2009, 12:18 AM)
I'd say Gerrard is a one-of-a-kind player. You don't find many players that play a similar style and role as him. The closest I could think of is probably Michael Ballack in his younger years. You need plenty of determination and work rate for a player like that.
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He had been repeating that he wont sell Alonso...Let's see what he gonna do this summer...
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I dont think there'll be another like Gerrard. And honestly, i think you're disgracing the chap by comparing him to Lucas or infact any other midfielder in the world whose playing in current times.

Gerrards skill and quality is not the only reason that makes him good. The quality thats lacking in football players today, is what he has in abundance, and thats bloody passion. Not just passion for him to play football the right way, but passion to play AND WIN for the club. Thats the X Factor... that alone is enough to push a team from mediocrity to demi-gods. That stuff is uncomparable, invaluable, immaculate and divine.
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CARRA EXPLAINS ARBELOA EXCHANGE

Jamie Carragher has insisted Pepe Reina's bid for this season's Golden Glove award was behind his on-field disagreement with Alvaro Arbeloa during Liverpool's 2-0 victory at West Brom.
Goals in each half from Steven Gerrard and Dirk Kuyt secured victory for the Reds at The Hawthorns - and ended the Baggies' stay in the Premier League.

West Brom fought hard for a way back into the game in the latter stages, and created a number of chances which had Carragher seething with frustration.

"We can't win the league now but there are a number of targets we can aim for," said Carragher after the game. "We want to keep a clean sheet and we want Pepe to have a chance of the Golden Glove for the third season running. Pepe is one behind Van der Sar now and there's a chance Van der Sar won't play next week, so we wanted to make sure he got a clean sheet today.

"To be honest we were a bit lackadaisical in our defending all through the game and they had too many chances.

"Maybe we took it a bit too easy and let them attack us too much, but that was one of the toughest games I've played in all season. We go all over Europe playing top teams and we play against the best sides in this country, but that was one of the hardest games we've had."

Carragher admits he's disappointed Liverpool's title chances have been ended for another season, but he's already looking forward to the prospect of making another challenge next year.

"It's hard to win the Premier League because our top four sides plus Barcelona probably make up the best five sides in Europe," he said. "That's the challenge we face.

"You can look at the statistics from this season and it's impressive that we've only lost two games and scored lots of goals, but United have got more points than us and credit to them because that's what matters.

"We have to make sure we finish second now and win our last game of the season next weekend."



IINM if reina win golden glove again this season it will be his 4th right ?
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I dont think there'll be another like Gerrard. And honestly, i think you're disgracing the chap by comparing him to Lucas or infact any other midfielder in the world whose playing in current times.

Gerrards skill and quality is not the only reason that makes him good. The quality thats lacking in football players today, is what he has in abundance, and thats bloody passion. Not just passion for him to play football the right way, but passion to play AND WIN for the club. Thats the X Factor... that alone is enough to push a team from mediocrity to demi-gods. That stuff is uncomparable, invaluable, immaculate and divine.
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CARRA EXPLAINS ARBELOA EXCHANGE

Jamie Carragher has insisted Pepe Reina's bid for this season's Golden Glove award was behind his on-field disagreement with Alvaro Arbeloa during Liverpool's 2-0 victory at West Brom.
Goals in each half from Steven Gerrard and Dirk Kuyt secured victory for the Reds at The Hawthorns - and ended the Baggies' stay in the Premier League.
 
West Brom fought hard for a way back into the game in the latter stages, and created a number of chances which had Carragher seething with frustration.
 
"We can't win the league now but there are a number of targets we can aim for," said Carragher after the game. "We want to keep a clean sheet and we want Pepe to have a chance of the Golden Glove for the third season running. Pepe is one behind Van der Sar now and there's a chance Van der Sar won't play next week, so we wanted to make sure he got a clean sheet today.
 
"To be honest we were a bit lackadaisical in our defending all through the game and they had too many chances.
 
"Maybe we took it a bit too easy and let them attack us too much, but that was one of the toughest games I've played in all season. We go all over Europe playing top teams and we play against the best sides in this country, but that was one of the hardest games we've had."
 
Carragher admits he's disappointed Liverpool's title chances have been ended for another season, but he's already looking forward to the prospect of making another challenge next year.
 
"It's hard to win the Premier League because our top four sides plus Barcelona probably make up the best five sides in Europe," he said. "That's the challenge we face.
 
"You can look at the statistics from this season and it's impressive that we've only lost two games and scored lots of goals, but United have got more points than us and credit to them because that's what matters.
 
"We have to make sure we finish second now and win our last game of the season next weekend."
IINM if reina win golden glove again this season it will be his 4th right ?
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QUOTE(hfi @ May 18 2009, 12:16 AM)
I totally agree with this. Gerrard is more of a battering ram, his play is direct, relying on pace and power. Gerrard leads attacks, and mostly end up scoring them himself lol. Lucas is more disciplined and intelligent than Gerrard was at the same age. I agree Lucas is more similar to Cesc, Iniesta or Pirlo. They're more of a support type of players, they're pop up everywhere supporting attacks and keeps the ball rolling none stop. Today he played his best attacking game yet, how many times he ended up inside the box ? You will hardly see Alonso inside the box, but Lucas when he's up for it, is very aggressive and highly mobile at supporting attacks. Hopefully he gets another run next week, defo looking forward to seeing him more next season - now that he's got more exprerience, and maturity.

We have 3 very unique CMs atm. Masc is a destroyer, Alonso is more of sit back and split defences with his passes, Lucas is a mobile support type, and theres Gerrard too but i dont think he now counts as a CM.
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Yes, his 4th...I do think that Ben Foster will play ahead of VDS but can we keep a clean sheet against Spurs?
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Been a long hard season, and we showed enough improvements to signal our intent and pedigree. Unfortunately, we need to kick the old habit of not being able to kill teams off and to turn draws into wins. Congrats to them but now they will have to hold on to their dear "perch" wink.gif

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QUOTE(JonC @ May 18 2009, 09:30 AM)
Been a long hard season, and we showed enough improvements to signal our intent and pedigree. Unfortunately, we need to kick the old habit of not being able to kill teams off and to turn draws into wins. Congrats to them but now they will have to hold on to their dear "perch"  wink.gif

So i guess the mods must be busy at work cleaning up the fire over the weekend. No?  brows.gif
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tough match last night, haven't watched the team playing so loosely for some time, credit to west brom for upping their game. a late rally but unfortunately, they'll be going down again.

i think carra has a point, the team is too committed in attacking that they left gaping holes in defence, both the flanks were exploited constantly throughout the match, but still, i don't agree with that kind of arguments on the pitch. it's not a nice thing to see even if both players are boiling for the sake of the team.

i'm a little disappointed that we couldn't watch any youngsters getting a run-in during last night's match, perhaps RB was thinking of his best points tally in the league, but to be honest even if chelsea pipped us to second i don't think it's really a big issue considering both positions qualify for UCL automatically.

anyway, if RB is trying to secure 2nd spot a point is enough against tottenham this week, or even a defeat if chelsea don't have a highscoring win, so let's hope a few kids get to kick a ball against robbie keane's side.
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I have the same opinion considering that finishing second or third won't be much difference since both qualified for group stage. Was hoping for a run out for Darby at least since Arbeloa's the only recognised rb we have (no, degen don't fall in this category) & Nemeth & Spearing at least as a subs. Quite disappointed none was given a run out. But still maybe game against relegation teams is too much for them since they're scrapping for dear lives.

On a side note, went to big Bad wolf warehouse sales on sunday, boy, it was crowded & messy. Can't even found god's bio that i went for wink.gif

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I have the same opinion considering that finishing second or third won't be much difference since both qualified for group stage. Was hoping for a run out for Darby at least since Arbeloa's the only recognised rb we have (no, degen don't fall in this category) & Nemeth & Spearing at least as a subs. Quite disappointed none was given a run out. But still maybe game against relegation teams is too much for them since they're scrapping for dear lives.

On a side note, went to big Bad wolf warehouse sales on sunday, boy, it was crowded & messy. Can't even found god's bio that i went for wink.gif
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ May 17 2009, 10:36 PM)
Yea...I was about to say this.They keep chanting and clapping whenever their team try to score...They were behind their team all the time...Did you see anyone of them leaving the stadium earlier? NO! thumbup.gif
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I for one can't be arse with what their "sandwich brigade" does. Let them be their own "best fans" the way they see fit. No need to harp on who is the better fan as each clubs got their own demons and pls dun think that all LFC fans are saints either. I've seen enough to think otherwise. wink.gif

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QUOTE(vreis @ May 18 2009, 11:57 AM)
I have the same opinion considering that finishing second or third won't be much difference since both qualified for group stage. Was hoping for a run out for Darby at least since Arbeloa's the only recognised rb we have (no, degen don't fall in this category) & Nemeth & Spearing at least as a subs. Quite disappointed none was given a run out. But still maybe game against relegation teams is too much for them since they're scrapping for dear lives.

On a side note, went to big Bad wolf warehouse sales on sunday, boy, it was crowded & messy. Can't even found god's bio that i went for wink.gif
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hope to see plessis coming in with nemeth, these two players are like an item while in the reserves with very good understanding, so maybe plessis will up his performance playing alongside a familiar striker in front of him. spearing probably should get a game in the league, the boy has played against real madrid but has yet to make an appearance in the BPL, i'm sure he's raring to go.

but youngsters aside, i'm keen to watch hyypia lead the team out against tottenham as the captain to mark his decade of contribution, and gets subbed with a standing ovation. that'll be a good sending off for the big man.
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Well, although both 2nd and 3rd place auto qualifies to the group stages of the CL, I think there is a difference in the prize money given out in the BPL, right?

Added on May 18, 2009, 12:25 pm
QUOTE(JonC @ May 18 2009, 12:16 PM)
I for one can't be arse with what their "sandwich brigade" does. Let them be their own "best fans" the way they see fit. No need to harp on who is the better fan as each clubs got their own demons and pls dun think that all LFC fans are saints either. I've seen enough to think otherwise.  wink.gif
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QUOTE(vreis @ May 18 2009, 11:57 AM)
I have the same opinion considering that finishing second or third won't be much difference since both qualified for group stage. Was hoping for a run out for Darby at least since Arbeloa's the only recognised rb we have (no, degen don't fall in this category) & Nemeth & Spearing at least as a subs. Quite disappointed none was given a run out. But still maybe game against relegation teams is too much for them since they're scrapping for dear lives.

On a side note, went to big Bad wolf warehouse sales on sunday, boy, it was crowded & messy. Can't even found god's bio that i went for wink.gif
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this is malaysia.
any bargain and everyone will be running to it tongue.gif

when i was there, i saw ppl with boxes full of books, easily anywhere from 10-40 or so each box.
i also saw a couple with 3 boxes full and 2 more bags with books in it too.

and lucas had a good game last nite?
in which friggin galaxy?
just cos he had one decent attempt at goal doesnt make that a good game.
take free kick also he go pass backwards, wtf.
thank god he didnt give away a penalty for a challenge the ref didnt spot...or maybe a penalty shouldve been given so he could get himself shipped out during the summer.
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QUOTE(7chai @ May 18 2009, 12:09 PM)
I saw 1 on Thursday night, that time it was at the table beside the fiction table.
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Actually I searched through twice...maybe it's not my day afterall. Closest I found that can consider have Reds connection is Crouch's bio.

QUOTE(livingmonolith @ May 18 2009, 12:17 PM)
if i didn't get it wrong, i think degen is fit to perhaps get a game before the season ends. wink.gif he has been having a nightmare of injuries, i think he knows our physios more than he knows his teammates.

hope to see plessis coming in with nemeth, these two players are like an item while in the reserves with very good understanding, so maybe plessis will up his performance playing alongside a familiar striker in front of him. spearing probably should get a game in the league, the boy has played against real madrid but has yet to make an appearance in the BPL, i'm sure he's raring to go.

but youngsters aside, i'm keen to watch hyypia lead the team out against tottenham as the captain to mark his decade of contribution, and gets subbed with a standing ovation. that'll be a good sending off for the big man.
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Think most probably Hyypia will start or even captain the side as a tribute. furthermore it's in anfield, which will be a proper sending off for him. About Degen, I only rmb he started in a Carling Cup match, so probably doesn't make a got back up since he's more acquainted to physios than team mate as u said. laugh.gif
As for Plessis, i dont really watched reserved play but as far as first team match goes, he seems more of a sissoko than Vieira type. That is to say, as much as a destroyer to opponent, he pretty much destroyed our rhythm as well tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Fyrekat @ May 18 2009, 12:24 PM)
Well, although both 2nd and 3rd place auto qualifies to the group stages of the CL, I think there is a difference in the prize money given out in the BPL, right?

Added on May 18, 2009, 12:25 pm

There are always more demons than angels.
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Well those demons are definitely ruin us as a supporter.... sweat.gif

Hate to see it when ppl calling us names in other thread and other ppl keep repeating we were the one who self claiming we are the best of the world... (Maybe I should not visit the thread that often) sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Everdying @ May 18 2009, 12:29 PM)
this is malaysia.
any bargain and everyone will be running to it tongue.gif

when i was there, i saw ppl with boxes full of books, easily anywhere from 10-40 or so each box.
i also saw a couple with 3 boxes full and 2 more bags with books in it too.

and lucas had a good game last nite?
in which friggin galaxy?
just cos he had one decent attempt at goal doesnt make that a good game.
take free kick also he go pass backwards, wtf.
thank god he didnt give away a penalty for a challenge the ref didnt spot...or maybe a penalty shouldve been given so he could get himself shipped out during the summer.
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I saw that too...ppl with whole boxes of books, I was like, you're opening a library is it rclxub.gif
& loads of ppl that buy books by boxes, its the norm rather than exception. Talk about Malaysian dislike reading laugh.gif

I thought I'm the only one that felt Lucas have a decent game. Clearly he's a decent player, but I really don't see much in him. When he's possession, I'm more worried that he'll lose the balls in dangerous areas rather than hoping he creates opening. Dunno abt how he'll be in future but clearly he cant hold his on for now.
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QUOTE(Fyrekat @ May 18 2009, 12:24 PM)
Well, although both 2nd and 3rd place auto qualifies to the group stages of the CL, I think there is a difference in the prize money given out in the BPL, right?
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Not to mention the seedings during the UCL Group Stage draw.
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Not seen anyone post this about how LFC NY fans are spearheading the boycott drive against one Steven Cohen, a radio show host and a self-confess Chelsea fanatic who is blaming ticket-less LFC fans for the Hillsborough Disaster. The ironic thing is that when Chelsea was touring the US, the club refused to give him media access to the team.

He has been recorded making slanderous comments about the disaster and boast about singing "Murder" to unsuspecting American LFC fans. Apparently, the boycott has cut into his show's sponsorship as a few company's have pulled out after LFC NY sent letters to inform them of the lies spread. This boycott has caught the attention of the medias in a rather football shy nation.

Here the link to LFC NY forum on the boycott - http://www.lfcny.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3077

Have to hand it to the Yanks, they know where to hit it where it hurts most - ya pocket. thumbup.gif Hats of to the lads for showing that we mean business in the fight for justice for the 96. rclxms.gif notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(Fyrekat @ May 18 2009, 12:24 PM)
Well, although both 2nd and 3rd place auto qualifies to the group stages of the CL, I think there is a difference in the prize money given out in the BPL, right?

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yes there is. but with us three points ahead of chelsea now with a better goal difference, i think the youngsters should have the oppoturnities to get some time now. smile.gif

QUOTE(Everdying @ May 18 2009, 12:29 PM)
and lucas had a good game last nite?
in which friggin galaxy?
just cos he had one decent attempt at goal doesnt make that a good game.
take free kick also he go pass backwards, wtf.
thank god he didnt give away a penalty for a challenge the ref didnt spot...or maybe a penalty shouldve been given so he could get himself shipped out during the summer.
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to be fair, had lucas not been there to 'probably concede a penalty', west brom could've scored and screwed reina's attempt to get another cleansheet. a midfielder at the last line of defence, where are all the defenders?

not the most inventive player, i still think he lacks a bit of composure to be playing in such crucial position, but i definitely think he has improved over the course of a season.

QUOTE(vreis @ May 18 2009, 12:33 PM)
Think most probably Hyypia will start or even captain the side as a tribute. furthermore it's in anfield, which will be a proper sending off for him. About Degen, I only rmb he started in a Carling Cup match, so probably doesn't make a got back up since he's more acquainted to physios than team mate as u said. laugh.gif
As for Plessis, i dont really watched reserved play but as far as first team match goes, he seems more of a sissoko than Vieira type. That is to say, as much as a destroyer to opponent, he pretty much destroyed our rhythm as well  tongue.gif
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they don't get to play a lot together this season in the reserves, but last season they were dominating the pitch when both are played together. nemeth has got an unlucky injury that kept him out, which got me asking, is he fit to have a game now?

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Hate to see it when ppl calling us names in other thread and other ppl keep repeating we were the one who self claiming we are the best of the world... (Maybe I should not visit the thread that often) sweat.gif
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well, you can see some supporters here calling them names too, bad apples are everywhere, so if anyone can't take it, then the wisest step to to ignore them.

i've seen some of their senior forumers coming into our thread and asking us to show them some respect, but at the same these are the same few who enjoys calling us names and mocking the supporters and those associated with our club in their thread.

people often see the bad in others but not themselves (and i'm not referring to another club's supporters, but people in general). would appreciate if more people post in a mature manner, but i guess that will take the joy out from many forumers around, no? wink.gif

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QUOTE(blinky @ May 18 2009, 12:49 PM)
Not to mention the seedings during the UCL Group Stage draw.
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if i recall correctly, the UCL seedings are based on the teams' performances in the UCL for the last 5 seasons, no? the positions in their respective leagues only leads to qualification, whether automatically or through qualifying rounds.

which was the reason why liverpool was seeded higher than man utd the previous season before they won the UCL last season.

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Not sure why some of us still slating Lucas, even when he clearly had a really good game last night. Just because he didnt take on 4 players on the trot or firing a screamer, that doesnt make his performance last night any less impressive.

Like Gerrard recently said, a lot of his work goes unnoticed. Things like off ball runs and simple touches that keeps our possession ticking over are easily unnoticed but has been significant to our football. His vision and positioning is often spot on, its only the final execution that often let himself down, but that can be fixed as he matures and gaining experience. The fact that he has exceptional football brain what makes him a promising talent. Look at Babel for instance, he has all the attributes you want from a footballer but has little intelligence. The hardest thing to find in a footballer, is the game intelligence, the rest can be trained or be compensated by quick thinking.

Watch the game again, and you will notice the quality of his game. He made a lot box to box runs that gave us number superiority in the final third and allowed us to press them at their own side of the pitch. Again, i stress, the kind of benifit always seem to be taken for granted.

His one touch passing was really good last night, played few difficult high balls that were almost impossible to play on, yet he did it effortlessly. His engine was superb, he was all over the pitch screening the middle, playing simple one touch ensuring we maintain possession and offering support upfield.

Say what you want about the challenge, but had he not been there, it would have been certainly a goal, that challenge was crucial.
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QUOTE(livingmonolith @ May 18 2009, 01:01 PM)
to be fair, had lucas not been there to 'probably concede a penalty', west brom could've scored and screwed reina's attempt to get another cleansheet. a midfielder at the last line of defence, where are all the defenders?

not the most inventive player, i still think he lacks a bit of composure to be playing in such crucial position, but i definitely think he has improved over the course of a season.
yea, well of cos he has improved.
a hobbling man on crutches moving on to hopping along is also an improvement.

everyone can say that he may further improve later on in 2-3 yrs time and possibly cement his place in the team, but the question is how long can rafa's and lucas' patience last.
no one will want to wait 2-3yrs.
alonso will be 28 by end of the year, so he has about 2 more good years left..gerrard no need to say la...so by that 2 yrs we will be left with lucas and masch? the future doesnt look so bright yet.
so doesnt really take a genius to figure out that rafa will probably buy another experienced midfielder soon.
then lucas will again drop down the pecking order.
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QUOTE(livingmonolith @ May 18 2009, 11:45 AM)
tough match last night, haven't watched the team playing so loosely for some time, credit to west brom for upping their game. a late rally but unfortunately, they'll be going down again.

i think carra has a point, the team is too committed in attacking that they left gaping holes in defence, both the flanks were exploited constantly throughout the match, but still, i don't agree with that kind of arguments on the pitch. it's not a nice thing to see even if both players are boiling for the sake of the team.

i'm a little disappointed that we couldn't watch any youngsters getting a run-in during last night's match, perhaps RB was thinking of his best points tally in the league, but to be honest even if chelsea pipped us to second i don't think it's really a big issue considering both positions qualify for UCL automatically.

anyway, if RB is trying to secure 2nd spot a point is enough against tottenham this week, or even a defeat if chelsea don't have a highscoring win, so let's hope a few kids get to kick a ball against robbie keane's side.
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correct me if I am wrong ..I thought 1st and 2nd place will auto qualify meanwhile 3rd and 4th need to go for 3rd round qualification match?
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QUOTE(lolz_5167 @ May 18 2009, 01:10 PM)
correct me if I am wrong ..I thought 1st and 2nd place will auto qualify meanwhile 3rd and 4th need to go for 3rd round qualification match?
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no more, its now 1/2/3.
4th go to qualifying.
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QUOTE(lolz_5167 @ May 18 2009, 01:10 PM)
correct me if I am wrong ..I thought 1st and 2nd place will auto qualify meanwhile 3rd and 4th need to go for 3rd round qualification match?
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New rule, 1st, 2nd. 3rd auto qualify ... 4th placed has to qualify.
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QUOTE(7chai @ May 18 2009, 10:37 AM)
yeah, like Gerrard said that Liverpool needs to be more merciless when playing in Anfield.  tongue.gif
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i can see a new job for lucas....lucas the merciless! thumbup.gif
dun say i jumped ship after yest's match ah....ive got his siggy since solstice made them.... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Fyrekat @ May 18 2009, 12:11 PM)
Yeah, I was very impressed as well to see and hear the passion of the WBA fans.
Well, to be fair we've seen the same at Anfield. Not sure if any at the Kop End left early but we've definitely seen fans leave early before.
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true la...i was quite ashamed of that oso....but definitely not kop end tho....proabably the visitor / tourist ppl...like in the Hillsborough testimonial match.....the stands were quite empty so i guess those empty seats are usually filled with tourists/ visitors...hence explaining the early exodus....but never in the KOP end....



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QUOTE(Everdying @ May 18 2009, 12:29 PM)
this is malaysia.
any bargain and everyone will be running to it tongue.gif

when i was there, i saw ppl with boxes full of books, easily anywhere from 10-40 or so each box.
i also saw a couple with 3 boxes full and 2 more bags with books in it too.

and lucas had a good game last nite?
in which friggin galaxy?
just cos he had one decent attempt at goal doesnt make that a good game.
take free kick also he go pass backwards, wtf.
thank god he didnt give away a penalty for a challenge the ref didnt spot...or maybe a penalty shouldve been given so he could get himself shipped out during the summer.
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If I m not mistaken, ref didnt point to the spot because the field is slippery, according to the commentators....

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QUOTE(livingmonolith @ May 18 2009, 01:01 PM)

well, you can see some supporters here calling them names too, bad apples are everywhere, so if anyone can't take it, then the wisest step to to ignore them.

i've seen some of their senior forumers coming into our thread and asking us to show them some respect, but at the same these are the same few who enjoys calling us names and mocking the supporters and those associated with our club in their thread.

people often see the bad in others but not themselves (and i'm not referring to another club's supporters, but people in general). would appreciate if more people post in a mature manner, but i guess that will take the joy out from many forumers around, no? wink.gif

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I have been saying this since Jan and I thought I m the only one noticed this.Glad that at least there is another soul in this forum see that as well.

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ May 18 2009, 02:02 PM)
If I m not mistaken, ref didnt point to the spot because the field is slippery, according to the commentators....

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I have been saying this since Jan and I thought I m the only one noticed this.Glad that at least there is another soul in this forum see that as well.
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the player oso was looking for a penalty on purpose..besides the ball was away from the player when the collision happened i think..
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Yep think the ball was behind him lol. Terrible positioning, he should've ran towards the ball, instead he just standing waiting for the glorious moment to score. Lucas the party pooper lol
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ May 18 2009, 02:02 PM)
If I m not mistaken, ref didnt point to the spot because the field is slippery, according to the commentators....

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I have been saying this since Jan and I thought I m the only one noticed this.Glad that at least there is another soul in this forum see that as well.
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laugh.gif at the commentators reasoning

respect is earned not gave. It's not like we don't notice but rather we don't give 2 hood to it. Or maybe its just me tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Everdying @ May 18 2009, 01:10 PM)
yea, well of cos he has improved.
a hobbling man on crutches moving on to hopping along is also an improvement.

everyone can say that he may further improve later on in 2-3 yrs time and possibly cement his place in the team, but the question is how long can rafa's and lucas' patience last.
no one will want to wait 2-3yrs.
alonso will be 28 by end of the year, so he has about 2 more good years left..gerrard no need to say la...so by that 2 yrs we will be left with lucas and masch? the future doesnt look so bright yet.
so doesnt really take a genius to figure out that rafa will probably buy another experienced midfielder soon.
then lucas will again drop down the pecking order.
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I think the thing we should do as supporters is to get behind him instead of criticizing him all the time.I always say that we should give credit when its due to.If he has a bad game, criticize him..no problem with that...If he has a good/decent game, praise him instead of mocking him.It isn't that hard, no?

Plus,I guess most of you missed out a point on Lucas.This is only his second season.It's always harder for foreign footballers especially in their second season with the Second season syndrome seems to happen on them.

In his 1st season, he, along with babel did very well and most of us actually claimed that they have a good season and may well be another Henry and Alonso.But it seems like the second-season syndrome is getting on them.Lucas was not that impressive compared to last season and babel, too, fade and failed to shine like we expected to.Torres was an exceptional one that does not suffer in this second season syndrome.

Take a look at Alonso.Besides his impressive 1st season, the seasons followed after that was less impressive but look what he is now...Give time to Lucas and Babel.I can see improvements from both of them.The former is getting his confidence back, having more good games now and the latter seems to put down his selfish play in game.Instead of mocking them, why not give them support when they clearly need that to boost their confidence and play better in future games.

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ May 18 2009, 02:18 PM)
I think the thing we should do as supporters is to get behind him instead of criticizing him all the time.I always say that we should give credit when its due to.If he has a bad game, criticize him..no problem with that...If he has a good/decent game, praise him instead of mocking him.It isn't that hard, no?

Plus,I guess most of you missed out a point on Lucas.This is only his second season.It's always harder for foreign footballers especially in their second season with the Second season syndrome seems to happen on them.

In his 1st season, he, along with babel did very well and most of us actually claimed that they have a good season and may well be another Henry and Alonso.But it seems like the second-season syndrome is getting on them.Lucas was not that impressive compared to last season and babel, too, fade and failed to shine like we expected to.Torres was an exceptional one that does not suffer in this second season syndrome.

Take a look at Alonso.Besides his impressive 1st season, the seasons followed after that was less impressive but look what he is now...Give time to Lucas and Babel.I can see improvements from both of them.The former is getting his confidence back, having more good games now and the latter seems to put down his selfish play in game.Instead of mocking them, why not give them support when they clearly need that to boost their confidence and play better in future games.
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You know sols, we dont always see eye to eye but this post of yours is spot on. Props to you for acknowledging the contribution from Lucas and gettng behind him. I know most of us never rated the boy but in the true Liverpool's way, Lucas never given up and shied from the challenge presented to him. What was it that Gerrard said ? Either swim or sink ? He has swam, sure it wasnt flawless, but he did swim nonetheless. People say he's no good, yet he outpassed both side's players at OT. Was particularly hard for him to play in the absence of either Alonso or Masc. Those 2 are world class talent and he's been rather unfairly expected to be at their level. He's not a finished product yet we demand him to be a flawless destroyer, a master passer and a dynamic AM like Gerrard. He's been asked to play multiple roles through out this season, its hard for him to put in a convincing performance because of constant switch of roles. Not to mention that he knows our own fans dislke of him. The pressure he had has been tremendous, only his teammates and manager been the main influence of spurring him on. When you compare him to the likes of Diouf, Kewell, Pennant and Keane, you can only feel overwhelming proud of this boy.
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Wow, i was just about to come in here and yell "Lucas is awesome!!" when i saw the topic description "Lucas FTW!" lol

Seriously, he is improving. Also, if any of you guys get a chance to go to England, either smack Babel, or kill WBA's defender, Olssen. Bloody b@$7*#!

Added on May 18, 2009, 2:39 pmAlso, i hope the Carra - Arbel dispute is over. Hope they're cool back again. smile.gif

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On behalf of MyRAWK:

Liverpool FC 2009 Asian Tour

As officially announced, Liverpool FC will be heading over to our part of the world - Southeast Asia. Sadly, Malaysia will not be included in the tour. However, MyRAWK has been able to secure about 50 tickets for the pre-season friendly in Singapore, to be held on Sunday, 26th July 2009. Any MyRAWKites who are planning to head down to Singapore, can purchase the tickets through us on a first come first serve basis.

If you need help to arrange transportation and accommodations, we will try to help you as the MyRAWK working committee will be traveling together.

The ticket pricing will be confirmed by 18th May 2009 after the official launch press conference.

Those interested, please drop us an email - MyRAWK@gmail.com and inform us if you need transport and accommodation. Please use the format below:

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Once your booking is confirmed, a non-refundable deposit of MYR 50 per ticket is required and payment information will be forwarded to those interested. Please check our website for more updates.

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@JonC:

I suggest you open a thread at event section.Not every Liverpool supporter know the existence of Football Lounge
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Wokay boss! wink.gif Thanks for suggestion.
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Wokay boss!  wink.gif Thanks for suggestion.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ May 18 2009, 02:02 PM)

I have been saying this since Jan and I thought I m the only one noticed this.Glad that at least there is another soul in this forum see that as well.
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QUOTE(vreis @ May 18 2009, 02:17 PM)

respect is earned not gave. It's not like we don't notice but rather we don't give 2 hood to it. Or maybe its just me  tongue.gif
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exactly. like vreis, i notice but i choose to ignore. also because we have our fair share of bad apples as well, so i don't want to be a hypocrite.

anyway, back to footballing issues, i view lucas the most a backup player to alonso, masch and gerrard. let's be fair, all three have got lengthy spells on the sideline due to injury, and if lucas isn't there to deputise, do anyone think we'll be in this current position? i don't think so. he has been a good and reliable backup when being called upon, and at the moment he hasn't been sulking like some primadonna, so i don't see the reason to ship out a player who can provide good cover when we need somebody in the middle of the pitch. there aren't a lot of holding midfielders around, and yet we have two of the best ones in our starting lineup with lucas comfortable playing second fiddle, so i'm not complaining.
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Cant argue with that. If we keep shipping out all our fringe players, we gonna end up with no depth.
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hehe. now that u guys have lucas to cover the midfield, u wouldn't mind if AW bid for alonso rite? eheheheheh

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Cant argue with that. If we keep shipping out all our fringe players, we gonna end up with no depth.
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and with that as well, i don't expect all 25 players in the squad to be the best in their positions. there's only 11 places in the first team allocation, and the rest will have to buy time for some minutes on the pitch, which is what's happening to the likes of lucas, babel, riera, benayoun, agger, insua, dossena, el zhar, and some others in the squad. if benayoun is as good as gerrard, then i'm sure RB will have a headache in his team selection. lucas is not half bad, but he's inferior when compared to the likes of gerrard, masch and alonso. in fact, i think he's a better holding midfielder than many others in the league. it's not like he's in the mould of jean michel-ferri, if anyone remembers his appearance for liverpool. if that's the case, i'll gladly see the back of lucas. wink.gif

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hehe. now that u guys have lucas to cover the midfield, u wouldn't mind if AW bid for alonso rite? eheheheheh

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hehe. now that u guys have lucas to cover the midfield, u wouldn't mind if AW bid for alonso rite? eheheheheh

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cheh.. 100m + fabs... better i go bid for ronaldinho since he wants out of AC. hehehehe
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I think if Wenger can come out with 20m or more, Rafa will be tempted to sell...I don't know if its only me but it seems like Rafa wanna cash in on Alonso...
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20m is a good deal id say, but please be it 25!
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nah... wenger won't go more than 15m for alonso, even if he did, he'll give diaby to you guys. eheheheh
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nah... wenger won't go more than 15m for alonso, even if he did, he'll give diaby to you guys. eheheheh
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I would be really disgusted if Rafa even thinks of selling Alonso to a different club. I mean come on, he has been playing really well this season, and he has been the heart of the midfield alongside Gerrard and the others. Superb long passing ability, and well, i don't think i need to explain about his abilities as you guys would already know smile.gif

Also, he was the first to stop the fight between Carra and Arbeloa, if that helps smile.gif

I just hope, REALLY HOPE, Rafa doesn't sell him sad.gif
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Well, although both 2nd and 3rd place auto qualifies to the group stages of the CL, I think there is a difference in the prize money given out in the BPL, right?

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walcott + diaby for alonso+mascha+$$ a bit. ehehehehe
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i would think AW would transfer himself out of ARSENAL since he's tempted by REAL MADRIDS "BIG PROJECT"? ;P
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how about this...

walcott + diaby  for alonso+mascha+$$ a bit. ehehehehe
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ahhahahaha... like playing FM plak.. ehehehe...

anyway, AW won't go to Real Madrid just yet. He might go after his contract expires.... but if he does go, RM will have to seriously change the way the do business cause AW way is not the RM way. biggrin.gif

Added on May 18, 2009, 4:19 pmbtw.. heck lets just exchange teams shall we?

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I would be really disgusted if Rafa even thinks of selling Alonso to a different club. I mean come on, he has been playing really well this season, and he has been the heart of the midfield alongside Gerrard and the others. Superb long passing ability, and well, i don't think i need to explain about his abilities as you guys would already know smile.gif

Also, he was the first to stop the fight between Carra and Arbeloa, if that helps smile.gif

I just hope, REALLY HOPE, Rafa doesn't sell him sad.gif
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prepare for surprise...we never know what rafa thinking anyway, rafa maybe tempted to sell alonso for more cash  doh.gif
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Only if they're offering no less than 25mill. Reckon Rafa will sell if its 30mil. Going to be hard to say no, its unlikely that we'll ever get that kind of offer ever again. If Rafa can find someone who can be as good or better than Alonso, then it will go down as a club record and a shrewd piece of business. But if the replacement turns out to be shite, then Rafa deserves everything thats coming for him.
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Well 20mil was January window's price smile.gif The price gone up at least 5 mil after a masterful season by Alonso, it be foolish of us to increase his value by only couple of mil. Besides, we're not in the pressure to sell Alonso like last season. Last season, we needed to sell Alonso for Barry, this time we dont. So i dont think Rafa will entertain 20mil, when he knows he can get 25-30 mil. Its going to take some offer for Rafa to be even contemplate of selling Alonso.
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if rafa want to sell alonso, i absolutely think he will never sell him to another rival premiership clubs. It's already bad then we lost a quality player like him, it will gonna be worse if we lost it to another BPL big team. We should never do that with the exception of a certain robbie keane.

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Well those demons are definitely ruin us as a supporter....  sweat.gif

Hate to see it when ppl calling us names in other thread and other ppl keep repeating we were the one who self claiming we are the best of the world... (Maybe I should not visit the thread that often) sweat.gif
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This is one of those things that happens when people give and receive praise. I honestly cannot remember who said it (I'm sure someone will be able to supply the answer) but what plenty of people don't realise though is that the praise was given to the supporters at the stadium for their passion and support for the team. THOSE SUPPORTERS were the ones who were praised, not you, not me and not some other guy/gal around. Something to think about maybe?

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Christopher Buchtman is in the final against Holland for the u17 Euro Competetion. Its half time now, 1-1 Buchtman delivery produced the equalizer.

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As I expected, the mancs fans only pick up bad things from our side especially our manager.Did you see them talking about Rafa congratulate Ferguson and manu for winning the trophy? No...They still call him fat spanish waiter...Fat this fat that...
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Seriously sols, who cares. Cara doesnt like them, Gerrard doesnt like them, Rafa doesnt like them .. why should we ? We're not in the business of making friends. Let them say what they want, it makes all even sweeter. Rafa already congratulated their club and players, thats all that matters. Glad Rafa sticking to his principles.
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Rafa seems to be able to rile up that old man more than Mourinho could. I wonder why.
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Nah...I dont care much about that either.Given the old "solstice818", I would have go into their thread and talk to them over it.Now?I dont care much of it.

The reason I posted that is because someone is demanding us to respect them while they themselves failed to respect others.So much of being a better fans? sweat.gif

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Rafa seems to be able to rile up that old man more than Mourinho could. I wonder why.
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Because Mourinho didnt have the cheek to tap up his player.
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Because Mourinho didnt have the cheek to tap up his player.
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Respect is not given, it's earned. Unfortunate that among them majority are "you know what" kind of fan and thus giving those great ones a bad name.
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Here is what a gooner fan has to say about the manc fans

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the more i read it the more i realise how absolutely distasteful these fans are. Instead of congratulating liverpool fans on a game well played they continue to goad them. Spoilt brats if ever i've seen one. When they win they shout lout boorish comments and if they lose and are outplayed they still think they are the most righteous fans.

Man utd are the most hated club not because they're the most successful but because they're the most distasteful fans and the sorest losers. I've had enough of them and i absolutely refuse to discuss football with man utd fans because the only thing they do is remind you of how much lesser your club is compared to theirs(which is subject to definition but they continually forget that they still lose out to liverpool in trophies and even goad pool fans...). Absolutely no class. Even liverpool fans weren't this bad when they were sweeping all in front of them in the 1980s...
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WNWA - we never walk alone

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i guess we are not the only one

WNWA - we never walk alone

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I have to say this.The united fans of LYN(in particular) claimed that the Liverpool fans are not respecting them and thus, they are not showing any respect to us too.The funny thing is, how many of us actually do the name calling on Ferguson in every single post? While they, on the other hand, every single post of them is calling our manager Fat Spanish Manager.Then, they actually have the audacity to come into our thread and demand for respect.Ironic?Funny?

Plus, Two wrong doesnt make one right.If the we do not respect them, they shouldn't be doing the same to us and others, no?Did you see how they raid others club threads after they won, big4 clubs thread especially.While they can go on and on about other club supporters going against them, dislike them because of their glory, all of them actually failed to realize that is the act of being a hypocrite caused all that.

To be honest, I think the likes of Golden and other glory hunters who don't know the club much better than those real supporters are well behaved than them.Do you see Golden acting like a hypocrite, going into one thread demanding for respect, mocking others in another thread?

So much of hypocrisy on the board.

Take a look at what they said and you can have a real laugh on it.Someone, a senior, claimed they are the peace-making group.So, I went to search all his posts and I found that we should give credit to him for his peace-making effort...Efforts of calling other as idiots and pricks...So much of making peace eh?

I'm not saying that we, Liverpool supporters are saint.But I dont see us going into their thread , asking for respect while we mock them like roaches in our own thread.

Anyway, I just want to have a rant... tongue.gif Reply no further...Just ignore me. laugh.gif

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i dont post much..and when i post sumthing bout the cunts..i show no respect..
more often then not..im sure i belong to the disrecpectful fans towards the cunts here in lowyat.net..i do realise though that it doesnt help the 'respect campaign in lowyat' thats tirelessly ran by both side of supporters here in lyn..

i hate them shites..those shites hate me..the feeling is mutual..i never read their threads..im against prejudice and generalization and racism and hypocrites..









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Sols got a bit of news for you here. You ready ? Say it out loud that you ready!

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and im sick and tired of our thread talking bout cunts..can we talk about sumthing else please ??

i didnt watch the match vs west brom..went out for a last minute study for an exam this morning.. >.<

was lucas that good?..1 match that changed him from almost zero to almost hero? tongue.gif
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and im sick and tired of our thread talking bout cunts..can we talk about sumthing else please ??

i didnt watch the match vs west brom..went out for a last minute study for an exam this morning.. >.<

was lucas that good?..1 match that changed him from almost zero to almost hero? tongue.gif
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Lucas was pretty good. His game was tidy, very lively, and a lot more confident. Did a last min challenge to put off the brom player from scoring, then did a box to box run, ended with him skipping through 3 players and going 1 on 1 with the keeper, he dinked it, keeper made a fine save. Unlucky. He's always been a hero, but lately he tends to favour the villain role - least thats what most fans seem to think so.

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well well..forget about the two fatal mistakes he did in two matches this season..im not his big fan since way before that..altho i dont post but i read alot..i can see ure a fan of Lucas..in a very supportive way and the way it should be biggrin.gif

here's how i think i evaluate a player..i dont have to see one do fancy skills, making cheeky tricks, score some screamers..all i ask from a new player is a strong basic football..pass / run / tackles / pas /run...the thing that will decide wether he is a good player or not is the number of mistakes he make..

here's all i ask from Lucas coz deep down inside i want him to success..in or out of liverpool team..less and less mistakes..thats all

if only Sissoko made less mistakes on the field..we would really had the best midfields in the world biggrin.gif

sooo..yea..apart from his good runs and passes..did he made any simple mistakes vs west brom?
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and im sick and tired of our thread talking bout cunts..can we talk about sumthing else please ??

i didnt watch the match vs west brom..went out for a last minute study for an exam this morning.. >.<

was lucas that good?..1 match that changed him from almost zero to almost hero? tongue.gif
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My bad my bad...Didnt mean to talk about them.

Anyway, Lucas had a pretty good game last night.Is he good?He can do better than last night.My expectation on him was high but after the match at old trafford in march, it became higher...

Off topic:

Someone taught me a new expression. "Siapa makan cili, dia yang rasa pedas."

My post earlier, I wasn't aiming at anyone but I cant deny I enjoy every single moment when someone actually wasted his time to counter my post each and everytime I posted a new post...I didn't know that I m that important...I enjoy that...Hmm,Internet...Serious business after all...

To celebrate that, I get myself a new avatar... rclxm9.gif

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well well..forget about the two fatal mistakes he did in two matches this season..im not his big fan since way before that..altho i dont post but i read alot..i can see ure a fan of Lucas..in a very supportive way and the way it should be biggrin.gif

here's how i think i evaluate a player..i dont have to see one do fancy skills, making cheeky tricks, score some screamers..all i ask from a new player is a strong basic football..pass / run / tackles / pas /run...the thing that will decide wether he is a good player or not is the number of mistakes he make..

here's all i ask from Lucas coz deep down inside i want him to success..in or out of liverpool team..less and less mistakes..thats all

if only Sissoko made less mistakes on the field..we would really had the best midfields in the world biggrin.gif

sooo..yea..apart from his good runs and passes..did he made any simple mistakes vs west brom?
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I dont know the stats, he did place a few miss passes, one really shocking one that was about 30 yards off lol. But overall, his game was neat and assuring. The game last night was pretty high tempo from the get go because West Brom needed to win to avoid relegation, so the ball was going from one end to the other in a flash. They took to us, their passing game was swift but we were able to adapt and then getting hold of the game because our 2 mids masc + lucas were working their socks off screening and linking plays. Very quick passing, mostly one touches before advancing supporting the build ups - pass and move so to speak. He did a lot of box to box runs, maybe you dont think much of it, but it tends to be significant to our kind of possession football. It ensures we have superior numbers in build ups, more numbers = more options to pass = better chance to score. If we lose the ball in their half, we still have the number superiority to press them, regain possession, and keep them contained in their own half. This is the kind leg work Lucas does for us but dont get noticed because SKY cameras dont follow off ball movements and most of us dont appreciate the tactical side of the game.

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oi oi oi ..this century, with globalization, and limited interaction via words online..sometimes, orang tak makan cili pun rasa pedas LOL

then within a short time..whole community makan cili, whole community terasa pedas..gotta love the inthernhet eh! biggrin.gif

hfi: i guess i missed one of a great match sad.gif
well i like that kind of game we're playing lately..fast and we create the tempo and the opponents follow our tempo instead of the other way round..this style of games, movements off the ball are rather more important than with the ball and often be less appreciated by many audience..main thing is to remain in control and so far we have done it perfectly, only got caught with fast adaptation from chelsea players, with their individual qualities..this is where game intelligence and hardworks really shines..it has been a great run of games for us...altho sometimes we got attacked physically with chaotic tackles by smaller teams..

back on lucas..learn passes from Xabi..learn tackles from mascha..learn basic footballs from gerrard..he's our future..the system is there for him..the hopes are high..god bless..god bless....leave the creativities to other players, we need one creative player, preferably not 2, definitely not 3..the future is redly bright biggrin.gif

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really hope silva will cme..will reira leave?? 2 games d he never play..hmm..babel no news as well.. my arsenal friends keep on telling me that alonso is going to arsenal..i hope not..cause he is in superb form dis season..
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Riera's situation is worrying.2 times on bench and 1 time out of the squad...I wonder what happen.Someone coming in with a great offer?And just when we finally found someone fit into the winger position, rafa going to sell him? I dont get it.
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QUOTE(x13u5t3r @ May 18 2009, 09:30 PM)
oi oi oi ..this century, with globalization, and limited interaction via words online..sometimes, orang tak makan cili pun rasa pedas LOL

then within a short time..whole community makan cili, whole community terasa pedas..gotta love the inthernhet eh! biggrin.gif

hfi: i guess i missed one of a great match  sad.gif
well i like that kind of game we're playing lately..fast and we create the tempo and the opponents follow our tempo instead of the other way round..this style of games, movements off the ball are rather more important than with the ball and often be less appreciated by many audience..main thing is to remain in control and so far we have done it perfectly, only got caught with fast adaptation from chelsea players, with their individual qualities..this is where game intelligence and hardworks really shines..it has been a great run of games for us...altho sometimes we got attacked physically with chaotic tackles by smaller teams..

back on lucas..learn passes from Xabi..learn tackles from mascha..learn basic footballs from gerrard..he's our future..the system is there for him..the hopes are high..god bless..god bless....leave the creativities to other players, we need one creative player, preferably not 2, definitely not 3..the future is redly bright biggrin.gif
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Our football this season has been awesome, starting to look like Rafa's Valencia. Cant believe we have only a week left to go and then its the crazy silly season .. transfer speculations n all. Speaking of midfield, take a look at this kid, hopefully he comes back to us, think we took good care of him the last time he trialed with us. Rafa was desperate to sign him and said this kid was even bettter than Gerrard was at the same age. He even had the kid training with Gerrard lol.
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I dont know the stats, he did place a few miss passes, one really shocking one that was about 30 yards off lol. But overall, his game was neat and assuring. The game last night was pretty high tempo from the get go because West Brom needed to win to avoid relegation, so the ball was going from one end to the other in a flash. They took to us, their passing game was swift but we were able to adapt and then getting hold of the game because our 2 mids masc + lucas were working their socks off screening and linking plays. Very quick passing, mostly one touches before advancing supporting the build ups - pass and move so to speak. He did a lot of box to box runs, maybe you dont think much of it, but it tends to be significant to our kind of possession football. It ensures we have superior numbers in build ups, more numbers = more options to pass = better chance to score. If we lose the ball in their half, we still have the number superiority to press them, regain possession, and keep them contained in their own half. This is the kind leg work Lucas does for us but dont get noticed because SKY cameras dont follow off ball movements and most of us dont appreciate the tactical side of the game.
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I know that lucas has the qualities, that not every players do. He has a good game understanding @ intelligence. You can see that when he plays although a simple pass but yet effective. Although its hard to notice that kind of pass, he always does it all the time. The pass between the opposition players for example. It's a difficult thing to do, hence the mistakes made by him.

Leadership quality. Being a captain of a team tells you something about a player. In order to be choosed as captain, one needs to have leadership quality and good technical abilities. He was a captain for the brazil U-1* side and also gremio. He got into the final of the libertadores although lost against riquelme's boca. He was the youngest winner of the Golden Ball in Brazil (an honour previously won by the likes of Romario, Kaka and Tevez) during his playing time with gremio.

Calmness. I once read a quote by benitez about lucas saying that, if liverpool gets a penalty at the end of a high pressure game, and if gerrard is not there, he wouldn't mind if lucas takes the spot kick.

Yes he makes mistakes. Yes he concedes stupid fouls.
But do remember that he is still 21 and still learning. Criticize him when he made mistakes but don't slate him. Praise him when he played well, but don't undermined him. As long as he keeps on working hard, the future is looking bright for him.

Hail Lucas Leiva. Our possibly future star in the making.

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Riera's situation is worrying.2 times on bench and 1 time out of the squad...I wonder what happen.Someone coming in with a great offer?And just when we finally found someone fit into the winger position, rafa going to sell him? I dont get it.
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yeah just when our left midfield problem look to have solved, things like dis happen..is silva a real winger.. i thought he was an attacking midfielder/ who plays behind the striker?? if v sign tevez wer will he play den?? right midfield??
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Dont think Rafa gonna splash all his money on a guy...I m hoping that Glenny will join us...Arbeloa need someone to compete with him to improve his game further. smile.gif
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I know that lucas has the qualities, that not every players do. He has a good game understanding @ intelligence. You can see that when he plays although a simple pass but yet effective. Although its hard to notice that kind of pass, he always does it all the time. The pass between the opposition players for example. It's a difficult thing to do, hence the mistakes made by him.

Leadership quality. Being a captain of a team tells you something about a player. In order to be choosed as captain, one needs to have leadership quality and good technical abilities. He was a captain for the brazil U-1* side and also gremio. He got into the final of the libertadores although lost against riquelme's boca. He was the youngest winner of the Golden Ball in Brazil (an honour previously won by the likes of Romario, Kaka and Tevez) during his playing time with gremio.

Calmness. I once read a quote by benitez about lucas saying that, if liverpool gets a penalty at the end of a high pressure game, and if gerrard is not there, he wouldn't mind if lucas takes the spot kick.

Yes he makes mistakes. Yes he concedes stupid fouls.
But do remember that he is still 21 and still learning. Criticize him when he made mistakes but don't slate him. Praise him when he played well, but don't undermined him. As long as he keeps on working hard, the future is looking bright for him.

Hail Lucas Leiva. Our possibly future star in the making.

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Well said Ken. Couldnt have said it better myself. The calmness and intelligence for merely 21 year old is really the most assuring thing about Lucas. Like you said, you dont get chosen to be captains and voted as league best player for nothing.
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like Kuyt 3 years ago..top scorer before coming to Liverpool..highly rated by Rafa..disliked by fans..and look how stylish he improved and proved everyone wrong..
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hey solstice....whos the chick in ur avatar again?? damn hot eh! u and fyrekat are going at each other issit?...competing for the sauciest avatar in Football lounge? rclxms.gif

btw that james mccarthy guy looked good eh
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Dont think Rafa gonna splash all his money on a guy...I m hoping that Glenny will join us...Arbeloa need someone to compete with him to improve his game further. smile.gif
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wah, everyone is giving lucas some credit now, yaahooo!!!
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Yeah that James McCarthy is a really good talent. Shame he turned us down to remain in Scotland. Need to send King Kenny down there and sort him out. Not Souness tho, since he lost his marbles long time ago.
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He is smart for rejecting us.Why? See how many midfielders we have now...If he comes, he will play in reserves .For now, he can still play with his club as he likes and prefer.
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He is smart for rejecting us.Why? See how many midfielders we have now...If he comes, he will play in reserves .For now, he can still play with his club as he likes and prefer.
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Just got back from Penang today and logged on for the first time after a 5 day hiatus. I kinda regret not being around right after our title dreams were ended. That being said, I was watching the game in Gurney with 6 Mancs and 1 Spurs supporter. Jonno was the only other Liverpool fans there aside from myself but he was busy at the time. I left Chillis at half-time because I got the feeling Arsenal weren't going to score and I didn't want to be around when a bar full if mancs went balistic for the third time in three years. I am going to admit to being bitter when I saw I wish for them to feel what it's like not to win trophies all the time. I want for them to experience what it's like to play second fiddle, or third, or fourth for that matter. Well that isn't going to happen, not this time round anyway. I headed on back to my event location but like bees to honey, them mancs came looking for me right after the game, running and jumping around in my face singing the all too familiar, "Glory glory Man Utd" x 1000. I tried not to pay too much attention to them knowing that by doing so would only add fuel to the already raging fire. Jonno and I sat down silently in one corner coming to terms with what had just happened. We came so close this time...

In every situation, there will always be positive and negatives. In this situation, I choose to focus on the former.

1) We've just secured our best ever points total finish in the league. We've still got Spurs to come.
2) Pepe may secure his 4th Golden Glove award in as many years if we keep a clean sheet against Spurs.
3) We've been involved in some of the best games in recent memory. The wins against Real Madrid & Man Utd. The high scoring games against Arsenal and Chelsea.
4) We have showed this season that when we are positive and when we go for it, we are almost unplayable. We just need to carry this mentality through to next season.

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hi,

anyone here knows where can i get Liverpool Retro Jerseys as in the pictures below?


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I am going to admit to being bitter when I saw I wish for them to feel what it's like not to win trophies all the time. I want for them to experience what it's like to play second fiddle, or third, or fourth for that matter. Well that isn't going to happen, not this time round anyway.
Haha right on, bro. I could feel your pain. I'm glad I was in Singapore for the game and didn't know anybody there!

The team's improving with every passing season, and I feel it's only a matter of time before we see #19. In fact, we'd have had a decent shot at the title had we not dropped points against teams like Stoke and the other "park-the-bus" teams. But still, credit where it's due, the Mancs have been unstoppable after the 4-1 defeat by Liverpool.

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I'm impress on what we achieved this season. While we are really improving, I should say United is improving as well. Living with more United fans around me, I watched most of their game with them and they also watched Liverpool game with me.

Firstly, their attacking option. Like our master Rafa said, having stars sitting on the bench with more than 100m total surely an advantage. They can switch tactically with swift and not compromising any quality on the pitch. But it's really fun to see their forwards (they have none striker at the moment, do they?) play as free role up front. With Rooney, Berbatov, Teves and Ronaldo (err, Macheda anyone?) freely going up and down switching roles between them and put the opponent defense on chaos and crazy on marking them. Nice to see but pain in heart actually..

Defensively, as usual, with Rio and Vidic at the back, they are hard to be penetrated (mind Vidic on 4-1 demolition). And with fast and good-crosser Rafael and Evra, adding the pain in my RED blood. Van der Sar, not at his peak anymore, but still rocking.

But the disappointment here is not them but their opponents. I can see the teams against United are really coward and not taking their chances. They fear United too much and not mentally prepared. This negative minded really cost them the game, giving United more spaces to attack. This kind of pattern we can see them several years ago when Arsenal dominates the league. On Chelsea reign we don't see it much on unknown reason. Another pain in the *ss.

I'm sorry I'm talking about United (praising them as well) but I think I should, seeing them tactically great with lots of good players with them. Maybe we can learn something from it. I write in peace.

Now go comment and correct my mistakes.
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talking bout parking bus team... any1 saw ANOTHER delap awesom throw in? it went in straight to d goal. too bad no1 touches d ball for it can be considered as a legit goal. damn i wish 1 of our player has arms like delap.
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talking bout parking bus team... any1 saw ANOTHER delap awesom throw in? it went in straight to d goal. too bad no1 touches d ball for it can be considered as a legit goal. damn i wish 1 of our player has arms like delap.
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Haha right on, bro. I could feel your pain. I'm glad I was in Singapore for the game and didn't know anybody there!

The team's improving with every passing season, and I feel it's only a matter of time before we see #19. In fact, we'd have had a decent shot at the title had we not dropped points against teams like Stoke and the other "park-the-bus" teams. But still, credit where it's due, the Mancs have been unstoppable after the 4-1 defeat by Liverpool.
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QUOTE(Vagine @ May 19 2009, 01:22 AM)
talking bout parking bus team... any1 saw ANOTHER delap awesom throw in? it went in straight to d goal. too bad no1 touches d ball for it can be considered as a legit goal. damn i wish 1 of our player has arms like delap.
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Yes I saw that as well. Kingston almost got a hand to the ball and it would have counted had he.
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Ticket price for the LFC pre-season friendly in SG........... ohmy.gif sad.gif SGD88 = MYR 212.75 ( exch. rate of 2.42) for normal stand seating. Grand stand is a whopping SGD 188!!!!


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Ticket price for the LFC pre-season friendly in SG...........  ohmy.gif  sad.gif  SGD88 = MYR 212.75 ( exch. rate of 2.42) for normal stand seating. Grand stand is a whopping SGD 188!!!!
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the grandstand is so EXpensive..SGD 188 = almost RM460
Anybody going for the match? mostly i go for the normal stand seating
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QUOTE(GulaV @ May 19 2009, 12:42 AM)
I'm impress on what we achieved this season. While we are really improving, I should say United is improving as well. Living with more United fans around me, I watched most of their game with them and they also watched Liverpool game with me.

Firstly, their attacking option. Like our master Rafa said, having stars sitting on the bench with more than 100m total surely an advantage. They can switch tactically with swift and not compromising any quality on the pitch. But it's really fun to see their forwards (they have none striker at the moment, do they?) play as free role up front. With Rooney, Berbatov, Teves and Ronaldo (err, Macheda anyone?) freely going up and down switching roles between them and put the opponent defense on chaos and crazy on marking them. Nice to see but pain in heart actually..

Defensively, as usual, with Rio and Vidic at the back, they are hard to be penetrated (mind Vidic on 4-1 demolition). And with fast and good-crosser Rafael and Evra, adding the pain in my RED blood. Van der Sar, not at his peak anymore, but still rocking.

But the disappointment here is not them but their opponents. I can see the teams against United are really coward and not taking their chances. They fear United too much and not mentally prepared. This negative minded really cost them the game, giving United more spaces to attack. This kind of pattern we can see them several years ago when Arsenal dominates the league. On Chelsea reign we don't see it much on unknown reason. Another pain in the *ss.

I'm sorry I'm talking about United (praising them as well) but I think I should, seeing them tactically great with lots of good players with them. Maybe we can learn something from it. I write in peace.

Now go comment and correct my mistakes.
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we'll be living in denial if we don't agree that man utd have a better squad compared to ours. but at the same time, i think man utd deserve to spend big on players because they earned the big money by winning titles and great marketing. and they are spending wisely by bringing in experience and also youth for continuous success on and off the pitch.

we do not have as much money for transfers, but that's purely our own problem, and we'll have to figure out different ways to improve the team with all the resources we have.

to be honest, i do not like comparing players' prices because that's a bit shallow from my POV. and if we always use the same excuse then we'll always have an excuse to not do well and win titles. wink.gif
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yeah..just read the newpaper justnow...damn...hisap darah sial...
I wonder this time carlsberg had any contest that sponsor the trip to wacth them free !!

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Good point from GulaV but I think that since Man Utd and us are improving at the same time, I think we've improved just a tad more but still not up to their standard as we can see from the final tally of the table. We've beaten them twice this season, Chelsea twice, and drew Arsenal twice. Correct me if I'm wrong on the stats.

We've improved against the top 4, improved against the smaller teams. Drawn lesser games compare to prior year. But still drew a few which actually cost us the lead. Which lead us to take 2nd place. Which is a great improvement. We've been able to turn draws into wins. Albeit that 2-3 games against Stoke, and Hull right? If we were to compare against last season, we would have also drawn against Man City 1st leg, and also some other games we've scored really really late which has actually weakened my heart.

1 thing about Man Utd "free running forwards" weakness is that teams like Liverpool are able to contain them much better as we're using zonal marking, am I right? And we've got decent full backs and top centre backs and of course a hell of a keeper to stop them. That's my POV on the 2 matches we played against them. I feel we're more fired up this season when playing Man Utd. No fear of going forward. And piling the pressure on them. Kudos to Rafa for accomplishing the attack minded team play we've been waiting for.
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guys i suggest u guys exchange the SG dollar together.

you see, if you guys have 50 persons going together. (roughly)

50* $188 = $9400
$9400* 2.48=RM23312

at this amount u can nego a better rate with the dealer! and don look for dealer @ MV / KLCC etc.

try look for those at jusco, smaller firm and more negotiable!

probably you guys have to suggest a few trust able senior member such as <insert a name> i don wnat suggest haha coz im not going
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SGD88 and i can have a nice meal over geylang. tongue.gif
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one small different that changed the final outcome, the title:

when the mancs are off form, they play very boring and dull, and win 1-0
when we are off form, we play very boring and dull, and draw

last term, it was about not taking chances..we have fixed it this term, whichi brought us magnificent results

last term, its about getting bad results at away games, this term we got not very good results at home games

all in all, room for improvements are getting smaller which means we're going on the right direction..we're doing great this season, just not good enough

in short:
- less draw
- continue taking chances
- learn mind games off the field tongue.gif
- (optional) bring back rotationnnnnn biggrin.gif

congratulations on the title mancs, they deserve it wink.gif
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SGD88 and i can have a nice meal over geylang. tongue.gif
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if we go thailand..how much the ticket price?
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according to LFC.tv its pending
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one small different that changed the final outcome, the title:

when the mancs are off form, they play very boring and dull, and win 1-0
when we are off form, we play very boring and dull, and draw

last term, it was about not taking chances..we have fixed it this term, whichi brought us magnificent results

last term, its about getting bad results at away games, this term we got not very good results at home games

all in all, room for improvements are getting smaller which means we're going on the right direction..we're doing great this season, just not good enough

in short:
- less draw
- continue taking chances
- learn mind games off the field tongue.gif
- (optional) bring back rotationnnnnn biggrin.gif

congratulations on the title mancs, they deserve it wink.gif
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yeah, and that's what that make them champions and us pretenders. we can blame all the draws earlier in the season, but that only sums up one thing: we're not in the mould of champions yet. man utd are capable of playing great football and get points, but when they struggled they still find ways to nick the three points, and this is the difference between the two clubs. if you want to win the title, you'll need to know how to play beautifully to get 3 points, or when necessary play ugly to snatch the 3 points from difficult matches.

in short, we'll need to learn how to win ugly. smile.gif
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QUOTE(livingmonolith @ May 19 2009, 12:48 PM)
yeah, and that's what that make them champions and us pretenders. we can blame all the draws earlier in the season, but that only sums up one thing: we're not in the mould of champions yet. man utd are capable of playing great football and get points, but when they struggled they still find ways to nick the three points, and this is the difference between the two clubs. if you want to win the title, you'll need to know how to play beautifully to get 3 points, or when necessary play ugly to snatch the 3 points from difficult matches.

in short, we'll need to learn how to win ugly. smile.gif
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yeah, and that's what that make them champions and us pretenders. we can blame all the draws earlier in the season, but that only sums up one thing: we're not in the mould of champions yet. man utd are capable of playing great football and get points, but when they struggled they still find ways to nick the three points, and this is the difference between the two clubs. if you want to win the title, you'll need to know how to play beautifully to get 3 points, or when necessary play ugly to snatch the 3 points from difficult matches.

in short, we'll need to learn how to win ugly. smile.gif
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One word, experiences. They have it and we also have it but still not enough.

We done pretty bad in home soil but triumph on away games. We win so many nerve breaking last minutes goal games and I see them as luck with some win mentality. In other words, I don't like them. But what the hell, a win is a win. And if we can kill the game early, it is so much easier later on. I think we have said the word 'IF' so much lately.

One more, Rafa was having too much confident on his tactics, not changing them fast enough when we have troubles scoring and with our small bench, it's predictable. Most of our subs have similar approach on the ball, making the tactical change is not really the change, just more on individual skills.
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i may be getting free tickets to Singapore from a supplier of a friend.

anyway if i do get a chance to go down, i'll try to meet u guys there.

let's pray the swine flu can be contained without it being an excuse for the teams to cancel the trip tongue.gif

after all, they are worth millions and if you were worth millions would you take the risk of travelling half way across the world if it isn't safe?

malaysia will most probably have case no 7 confirm by end of the day... scary times all.. scary times sad.gif

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how about change from sg to bangkok? i guess the tickets can be cheaper, rm212 is too expensive for me sweat.gif
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Sol since you are the TS so please contribute 10% for each of our ticket. tongue.gif

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Sol since you are the TS so please contribute 10% for each of our ticket. tongue.gif

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well.. he is Rafa after all tongue.gif

and him being the only managerial "bad ass" in England at the moment, I think he's really carving a name for himself in many fans good books and many rivals hate threads,

just like what Mourinho did when he was around, but Rafa seems to be the bolder i think and that is not necessarily a good thing
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MCMAHON: I'LL HELP REDS START IN STYLE

Steve McMahon hopes Liverpool's trip to South East Asia this summer will be a springboard to Barclays Premier League glory in 2009-10.
The Reds will face the national teams of Thailand in Bangkok on July 22 and Singapore in the city state four days later.

McMahon, who was part of our last title-winning side in 1990, is promoting the games as group commercial director of the Singapore-based Profitable Group.

The former midfielder expects fans to provide an 'overwhelming' reception for Rafa Benitez and his stars - and hopes it will inspire them to achieve great things when competitive action gets underway in August.

"They probably don't realise what's going to hit them when they arrive here. They don't realise the enormity of the support they have here," said McMahon.

"I just think the players will be overwhelmed by the reception they get.

"I'm excited for the players. I want to make it worthwhile because it's in my interest for them to do well.

"I know a lot of the players. I know a lot of people at the club. Rafa is excited, Sammy Lee certainly is - he's always enthusiastic about getting out and travelling.

"Hopefully Liverpool can go one better next season and instead of getting second we'll get first."
Going to be mad i bet.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ May 18 2009, 07:48 PM)
As I expected, the mancs fans only pick up bad things from our side especially our manager.Did you see them talking about Rafa congratulate Ferguson and manu for winning the trophy? No...They still call him fat spanish waiter...Fat this fat that...
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Well, from what I gather in the news from various sites, Rafa didn't actually congratulate Ferguson. He did congratulate Utd on winning the title and said they were a good team, but one can see that it was very grudgingly. And of course the media immediately picks it up and spins it in the most negative way possible. Can't blame them, they have news to sell.

Personally I'd prefer it if the gaffer was more gracious but hey, that's just my opinion.
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What exactly does Rafa need to be gracious about ? Did Ferguson apologize for his coordinated attack on Rafa for that ridiculous hand gesture nonsense ? Did he congratulate us on beating his team at OT ? Sorry, Ferguson is a big bully and everyone knows it, im glad we finally got someone with the balls to stand up to him.

Anyways, i think its great that Rafa chose to ignore him. No point being all servile now, especially when we know Ferguson is not going to play it nice next season. We're at 18 all here so, so if anything, its going to get even more nasty next season, as both teams looking to nick the no 19. The battle had only just begun, and Rafa is priming the team and us fans for next season.

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how about change from sg to bangkok? i guess the tickets can be cheaper, rm212 is too expensive for me  sweat.gif
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Well, from what I gather in the news from various sites, Rafa didn't actually congratulate Ferguson. He did congratulate Utd on winning the title and said they were a good team, but one can see that it was very grudgingly. And of course the media immediately picks it up and spins it in the most negative way possible. Can't blame them, they have news to sell.

Personally I'd prefer it if the gaffer was more gracious but hey, that's just my opinion.
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we'll be living in denial if we don't agree that man utd have a better squad compared to ours. but at the same time, i think man utd deserve to spend big on players because they earned the big money by winning titles and great marketing. and they are spending wisely by bringing in experience and also youth for continuous success on and off the pitch.

we do not have as much money for transfers, but that's purely our own problem, and we'll have to figure out different ways to improve the team with all the resources we have.

to be honest, i do not like comparing players' prices because that's a bit shallow from my POV. and if we always use the same excuse then we'll always have an excuse to not do well and win titles. wink.gif
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Well, I got this from the Utd thread, it's a table showing the nett spending of clubs in the premiership since Benitez took over.


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I'm assuming it's accurate and from that we can see that we've actually been spending a fair bit so it's not really true that we don't have spending power. What is true though, like you've said, is that Utd have had a stronger squad for many years now. So while they can afford to spend 30 million on one great player, we've had to make do with spending our transfer kitty on several players instead to gradually improve the squad.

I liken it to Utd being a nice house with everything pretty much done up. Every year they just need to spend on the area they want to improve. Air-conditioning need an upgrade? Let's go right for the best air-cond we can get.

Liverpool on the other hand has been like a house that's been needing a lot more renovation done. Want better air-conditioning? Sure but we can't dump all our budget there coz we've still got our hot water to be done. Not to mention maybe looking at our electrical wiring. So we'll buy a reasonable air cond, and a water heater too but sorry it won't be a solar panel this year. Maybe some other time. Oh, and no 3-phase wiring this year, dear.

We've had to improve the team gradually and yet not neglect any particular area too, which is why it's taken so long to come this far in the team's development. It looks like we've improved to a stage where we can now mount a genuine challenge. So let's see what Rafa does now to take the team that extra 5 - 10% closer to the title.

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Well, I got this from the Utd thread, it's a table showing the nett spending of clubs in the premiership since Benitez took over.
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I'm assuming it's accurate and from that we can see that we've actually been spending a fair bit so it's not really true that we don't have spending power. What is true though, like you've said, is that Utd have had a stronger squad for many years now. So while they can afford to spend 30 million on one great player, we've had to make do with spending our transfer kitty on several players instead to gradually improve the squad.

I liken it to Utd being a nice house with everything pretty much done up. Every year they just need to spend on the area they want to improve. Air-conditioning need an upgrade? Let's go right for the best air-cond we can get.

Liverpool on the other hand has been like a house that's been needing a lot more renovation done. Want better air-conditioning? Sure but we can't dump all our budget there coz we've still got our hot water to be done. Not to mention maybe looking at our electrical wiring. So we'll buy a reasonable air cond, and a water heater too but sorry it won't be a solar panel this year. Maybe some other time. Oh, and no 3-phase wiring this year, dear.

We've had to improve the team gradually and yet not neglect any particular area too, which is why it's taken so long to come this far in the team's development. It looks like we've improved to a stage where we can now mount a genuine challenge. So let's see what Rafa does now to take the team that extra 5 - 10% closer to the title.
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that was taken from this site.
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/

apparently some figures are overbloated in there, cos on another site that tracks til 07/08 it says our netspend is 149,100,00 which would imply that rafa spent 63,390,000 in the last yr alone which is kinda absurd.

also remember that MU already had a team more of less settled and didnt have to literally rebuild a whole squad after rafa took over from houllier.

i guess tomkin's article here says it well enough.
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N...090304-1429.htm
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QUOTE(hfi @ May 19 2009, 05:35 PM)
What exactly does Rafa need to be gracious about ? Did Ferguson apologize for his coordinated attack on Rafa for that ridiculous hand gesture nonsense ? Did he congratulate us on beating his team at OT ? Sorry, Ferguson is a big bully and everyone knows it, im glad we finally got someone with the balls to stand up to him.

Anyways, i think its great that Rafa chose to ignore him. No point being all servile now, especially when we know Ferguson is not going to play it nice next season. We're at 18 all here so, so if anything, its going to get even more nasty next season, as both teams looking to nick the no 19. The battle had only just begun, and Rafa is priming the team and us fans for next season.
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To me, all that showmanship and oneupsmanship during the season is part of the game. We're now at the end of the season and the title's been decided. So what's wrong with a bit of graciousness? Sure, I expect even more rivalry next season as both teams will want to claim top spot. But let's save that for next season.
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that was taken from this site.
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/

apparently some figures are overbloated in there, cos on another site that tracks til 07/08 it says our netspend is 149,100,00 which would imply that rafa spent 63,390,000 in the last yr alone which is kinda absurd.

also remember that MU already had a team more of less settled and didnt have to literally rebuild a whole squad after rafa took over from houllier.

i guess tomkin's article here says it well enough.
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N...090304-1429.htm
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The figures are wrong.I m sure of that. We spent 60m?

Keane rejoined Tottenham, signing for a basic fee of £12 million, potentially rising to £19 million with add-ons. So, let's make that just 12m. We wasted 8m for him then.

Keane-8m
Riera-8m
Dossena-7m
Ngog -1.5m
Diego-2.5m
Degen- FREE

You do the maths.

And I m amazed that the figures in the table didn't include the money United paid for Tosic and another kid.That figure alone is around 20m+ for both of them...

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To me, all that showmanship and oneupsmanship during the season is part of the game. We're now at the end of the season and the title's been decided. So what's wrong with a bit of graciousness? Sure, I expect even more rivalry next season as both teams will want to claim top spot. But let's save that for next season.
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What wrong with it ? See thats how the media and Ferguson loving people wants it. He already congratulated the winning team, unless of course the team was called The Ferguson Team. Rafa doesnt like him and he doesnt have to like him. And there are reasons why he doesnt like him. Ferguson has time from time again, undermined and looked down on Liverpool. He spouted all sorts of crap about us, and we let him do it for far too long. Even before the season started, he already fired the first salvo by saying Keane wasnt a 20 mill signing. That primed the media in putting the player and Rafa under the microscope and scrutiny. Dont understand all this peace loving, courtesy call to congratulate Ferguson. Is Ferguson a role model for such thing ? FFS he went on trying to isolate our manager through all means necessary and we expect Rafa to congratulate him ? I guess thats ok because its part of the game, the Ferguson game. Well maybe this snub is Rafa insisting on playing his own game instead of Ferguson's and thats how it ought to be.
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And I m amazed that the figures in the table didn't include the money United paid for Tosic and another kid.That figure alone is around 20m+ for both of them...
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solstice stop being so naive and childish, this is united we're talking about. 20m+ for tosic and that wonder kid they gonna be godlike




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Middlesbrough insist they are yet to find out how long Stewart Downing will be sidelined, amid reports he could face up to six months out.

The England winger was injured at the weekend when Aston Villa midfielder Stiliyan Petrov stood on his ankle.

Downing was stretchered off and the immediate concerns were about this weekend's final game of the season against West Ham.

But now Downing's worries are more serious with a report in the North East stating that he had indeed fractured his foot and would undergo surgery this week.

It is also claimed that specialists have told the Boro star that the worst-case scenario is six months on the sidelines - which would rule out any prospect of a summer move for Downing, which had looked inevitable whether the club stayed up or not.

Boro have refused to confirm or deny reports of the break, but confirmed he had already been to see a leading specialist in London.

"We will not be able to assess the full extent of Stewart's injury until his bruising and swelling go down," said the club's head of medical Grant Downie.

"We are still waiting for further tests and investigations to find out the best way to manage the problem.

"Stewart has already seen a leading orthopaedic expert in London and is in the best possible hands."
Petrov - who caused the injury with his challenge - was quick to apologise to Downing and Boro.

"It was an accident and no-one likes to see players carried off, especially a young talent fighting to help Middlesbrough stay up and I hope it's not too serious," he said.

"It would be a big loss for Middlesbrough if he wasn't fit for their last game so I wish him all the best and hope he can play next week.

"My boot landed flush on top of his foot, I caught him in full stride but it was accidental."

Villa are now playing Newcastle in the final game of the season and Petrov insisted he would be doing his all to make sure they would win - which could do Boro a big favour.

"We want to finish fifth so we can say we have improved on last season's sixth-placed finish," he said.


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Reds accept Swans' Anderson bid

Swansea are closing in on the signing of Paul Anderson after having a six-figure bid accepted by Liverpool.

The 20-year-old winger enjoyed a season-long loan spell at the Liberty Stadium during the Swans' title-winning 2007-08 campaign before spending last season with Nottingham Forest.

Chairman Huw Jenkins told the club's official website: "We have had a six-figure sum with Liverpool accepted. But I must stress that Paul is one of a number of options we are pursuing.

"Manager Roberto Martinez has highlighted a number of players he is interested in and we have been pursuing them while he has been away scouting various players in various countries.

"The offer has been accepted by Liverpool but it is still subject to us agreeing personal terms and Roberto sitting down with the player for further talks.

"Whoever we sign, we want players who want to play for Roberto and Swansea City. That attitude is vital - however good they are."



Agent: Alonso future up for debate

Xabi Alonso's agent says Liverpool will decide the midfielder's future at the end of the season, amid claims Real Madrid are keen to sign him.

The Spanish international's future has been the subject of speculation in recent weeks with a number of clubs thought to be lining up summer moves for the player.

Real Madrid are thought to be leading the chase for Alonso with the 27-year-old thought to be one of presidental candidate Florentino Perez's top transfer targets if he gains control at the Santiago Bernabeu.

Alonso's agent Ignacio Ibanez has refused to confirm the player will remain at Anfield next season, admitting Liverpool will have the final say on any possible transfer.

"Many things could happen in the summer," Ibanez told the Daily Star.

"The first is to finish the season and after that to attend to other matters.

"Xabi has signed for three more years and his future depends on Liverpool."
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Yeah i read about Anderson last night, shame thought he was goign to get his chance next season. Hopefully Hamill will get his chance.

Hmm nothing much in that Alonso update. It just says Alonso's future depends on LFC and Rafa has already stated he's got no intention of selling him.
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If you ask me, I'd say 80% Alonso will leave us in summer.I see the whole thing like this. Barry will come in and the fact that his ranking in actim index is higher than Alonso, he will feature more than Alonso next season.Rafa loves actim index.When Rafa said he don't want to sell Alonso, I see it as a move to increase the price of Alonso.I mean, if you say you wanna sell a player, the price will be lower than when you say you dont want to sell him, no?With so many parties interested in him, likely, a price bidding war will take place and it's likely Rafa will sell Alonso in order to raise more funds.

When Rafa wanted to sacrifice Alonso for Barry's deal last summer, we all know that he puts Barry ahead of Alonso.Regardless of whether Alonso plays impressively well this season or bad like hell, it doesn't matter.He wants to get rid of Alonso...That's what I have been thinking....I do hope Alonso will stay but the odds tell me that he won't especially if Perez comes in with an offer...
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alonso pls stay..i really wan him to stay..
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alonso pls stay..i really wan him to stay..
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The matter not lies whether Alonso want to stay or not.It's up to Rafa.If he thinks Alonso should be sacrificed for fund raising, we can do nothing but to pray that Barry can gel well with Alonso and Gerrard in the midfield department.

Alonso want to stay but I don't think he will.
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why rafa want to sell alonso for fund raising
just spend 60m like last summer la , no need to sell anyone tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

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sumtimes rafa does things that confuse us all..hmm we will have to wait n c whether he is leaving or not..y dunt sell babel??
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He's really a farktard if he sells Alonso for Barry. Just look at this season, Alonso has been on fire but what, who, where is Barry? No where to be heard.
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aiyah, barry is what? 20mil?
sell lucas + babel + dossena also 20mil tongue.gif
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If you ask me, I'd say 80% Alonso will leave us in summer.I see the whole thing like this. Barry will come in and the fact that his ranking in actim index is higher than Alonso, he will feature more than Alonso next season.Rafa loves actim index.When Rafa said he don't want to sell Alonso, I see it as a move to increase the price of Alonso.I mean, if you say you wanna sell a player, the price will be lower than when you say you dont want to sell him, no?With so many parties interested in him, likely, a price bidding war will take place and it's likely Rafa will sell Alonso in order to raise more funds.

When Rafa wanted to sacrifice Alonso for Barry's deal last summer, we all know that he puts Barry ahead of Alonso.Regardless of whether Alonso plays impressively well this season or bad like hell, it doesn't matter.He wants to get rid of Alonso...That's what I have been thinking....I do hope Alonso will stay but the odds tell me that he won't especially if Perez comes in with an offer...
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Yeah i can see it happening too, but it would take some serious offer tho. Alonso did the job for us this season, so basically, we shouldn't be fixing whats not broken, unless its an offer we cant refuse. The amount has to be so good that Rafa could bring in a decent replacement, yet still have good amount left to spend on other signings. He knows and we know that the team only needs minimal tweaking. Priority must be on a new attacking LM and RB. Need goals from that side of the field and we need depth on RB because we've lost crucial points when our Arby was either tired or out injured.
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we need depth on RB because we've lost crucial points when our Arby was either tired or out injured.
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and when degen is still laying on the bed recovering. I bet he knows his physios better than he knows any of his teammates.

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WHAT?! Alonso maybe leave liverpool.

pls rafa..don't sell alonso..
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QUOTE(Everdying @ May 19 2009, 06:14 PM)
that was taken from this site.
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/

apparently some figures are overbloated in there, cos on another site that tracks til 07/08 it says our netspend is 149,100,00 which would imply that rafa spent 63,390,000 in the last yr alone which is kinda absurd.

also remember that MU already had a team more of less settled and didnt have to literally rebuild a whole squad after rafa took over from houllier.

i guess tomkin's article here says it well enough.
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N...090304-1429.htm
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Bro, it looks like you've compared the net spend on that other site with the gross spend from the table from transferleague, and that netspend is even higher than calculated by transferleague.

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What wrong with it ? See thats how the media and Ferguson loving people wants it. He already congratulated the winning team, unless of course the team was called The Ferguson Team. Rafa doesnt like him and he doesnt have to like him. And there are reasons why he doesnt like him. Ferguson has time from time again, undermined and looked down on Liverpool. He spouted all sorts of crap about us, and we let him do it for far too long. Even before the season started, he already fired the first salvo by saying Keane wasnt a 20 mill signing. That primed the media in putting the player and Rafa under the microscope and scrutiny. Dont understand all this peace loving, courtesy call to congratulate Ferguson. Is Ferguson a role model for such thing ? FFS he went on trying to isolate our manager through all means necessary and we expect Rafa to congratulate him ? I guess thats ok because its part of the game, the Ferguson game. Well maybe this snub is Rafa insisting on playing his own game instead of Ferguson's and thats how it ought to be.
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I've always preferred to see sporting and gracious behaviour between rivals, be it rival players, managers or fans.

Sure, Rafa will have his reasons for not liking Ferguson. That doesn't mean he can't be gracious. It doesn't mean he has to either. It's just something I prefer to see in all players, managers and fans, which is why I'd prefer to see that from Rafa given he's the manager of the club I support.

Is Ferguson a role model for such a thing? Doesn't matter. I'd like to see Rafa be that role model regardless of what others do.

Some people believe in sporting behaviour, some don't and prefer to be full on competitive. No prizes for guessing what I prefer (and busty babes is not the answer! Oh wait.. tongue.gif )

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The matter not lies whether Alonso want to stay or not.It's up to Rafa.If he thinks Alonso should be sacrificed for fund raising, we can do nothing but to pray that Barry can gel well with Alonso and Gerrard in the midfield department.

Alonso want to stay but I don't think he will.
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I'm guessing you actually mean Mascherano, right? Yea, I don't want to see Alonso go either. We'll just have to see what happens in the next few months.

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i agree in being gracious and accepting the fact that man utd is better than us. being the manager i sure hope RB can show some courtesy to congratulate ferguson for outclassing him this season, like fyrekat said that's a sporting gesture.

but of course, that's what i thought and only my personal opinion, although i find it somewhat funny that many are so obsessed to see RB kneeling down and bow to SAF. wink.gif
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yeah i join the facebook as well..saw few good videos there..nice artcile about sami as well

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If you ask me, I'd say 80% Alonso will leave us in summer.I see the whole thing like this. Barry will come in and the fact that his ranking in actim index is higher than Alonso, he will feature more than Alonso next season.Rafa loves actim index.When Rafa said he don't want to sell Alonso, I see it as a move to increase the price of Alonso.I mean, if you say you wanna sell a player, the price will be lower than when you say you dont want to sell him, no?With so many parties interested in him, likely, a price bidding war will take place and it's likely Rafa will sell Alonso in order to raise more funds.

When Rafa wanted to sacrifice Alonso for Barry's deal last summer, we all know that he puts Barry ahead of Alonso.Regardless of whether Alonso plays impressively well this season or bad like hell, it doesn't matter.He wants to get rid of Alonso...That's what I have been thinking....I do hope Alonso will stay but the odds tell me that he won't especially if Perez comes in with an offer...
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And the actim index won't lie, right?

Tell you what, i believe the same thing won't happen twice, if Rafa to offload Alonso, it's going to be last summer not this. The transfer tactic is clear, or a smokescreen you called that. The fact is we don't have much transfer kitty, and we have to sell in order to buy.

How often you see a rich guy claim that they have a huge sum of cash available, then the chics around will ask for LV not MNG. I admit that before this season, many suggested that Alonso has been dipped in form, simply because he had a remarkable debut season in red shirt. However, if i am Rafa, it's a huge relief that i didn't give up on Alonso in the current season. Rest assure, Alonso the one who gets my vote of the player of the season, not because he improved a lot, it's how he should perform in himself. Same thing on Kuyt, how many of us calling him to exit but the truth is, Rafa able to convert him into a right midfielder and score the crucial goal when needed.

Gareth Barry is too good to be with us. If one thing does make the difference, it's the nationality not the quality. And for sure, Alonso a better player than Barry.

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I was reading the comments in Phil McNulty's blog at BBC, where as would be expected people have their various opinions on Rafa not congratulating Ferguson, when I came across this interesting snippet posted by one of the people commenting.

Here's the pattern of titles won by Utd and Liverpool since the 1900's, in terms of the number of titles won before the other team recaptured the title:

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1900/01 Liverpool
1905/06 Liverpool (2 titles)

1907/08 United
1910/11 United (2 titles)

1921/22 Liverpool
1922/23 Liverpool
1946/47 Liverpool (3 titles)

1951/52 United
1955/56 United
1956/57 United (3 titles)

1963/64 Liverpool (1 title)

1964/65 United (1 title)

1965/66 Liverpool (1 title)

1966/67 United (1 title)

1972/73 Liverpool
1975/76 Liverpool
1976/77 Liverpool
1978/79 Liverpool
1979/80 Liverpool
1981/82 Liverpool
1982/83 Liverpool
1983/84 Liverpool
1985/86 Liverpool
1987/88 Liverpool
1989/90 Liverpool (11 titles)

1992/93 United
1993/94 United
1995/96 United
1996/97 United
1998/99 United
1999/00 United
2000/01 United
2002/03 United
2006/07 United
2007/08 United
2008/09 United (11 titles)


I've not checked the accuracy of it but if it is, what a coincidence, eh?
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interesting, but i've had enough of these nostradamus types.

what did they say before about last time we did a double over chelsea?
what about we have never finished 2nd when mu have won?
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QUOTE(Everdying @ May 19 2009, 11:58 PM)
interesting, but i've had enough of these nostradamus types.

what did they say before about last time we did a double over chelsea?
what about we have never finished 2nd when mu have won?
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It's still possible we wont finish 2nd...Let's see...

yea...Sometimes, its down to coincidence...
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5 goals in one game, against sunderland, can be a huge treat to rafa tho
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It's still possible we wont finish 2nd...Let's see...

yea...Sometimes, its down to coincidence...
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5 goals in one game, against sunderland, can be a huge treat to rafa tho
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so means we gonna lose at home?
*looks out the window to see if any pigs are flying*

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so means we gonna lose at home?
*looks out the window to see if any pigs are flying*
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What so surprising about that? Keane gonna score 4 goals and celebrate like this

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so means we gonna lose at home?
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What so surprising about that? Keane gonna score 4 goals and celebrate like this

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keane would probably run the other way when he sees both carra and skrtel coming for his ass...and go hide behind lucas.
then rafa will come out and pat keane again saying 'now now little boy dont cry'.
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tho i think maybe we would see carra and hyypia partner for one last time...
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Keane to score Hat trick this week... tongue.gif

Maybe he wont celebrate in front of the supporters....After the match, he gonna find Rafa and celebrate in front of him....

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Anyway, jokes aside, I m hoping that Hyypia can be the captain for his last game this weekend like fowler did. smile.gif

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I was reading the comments in Phil McNulty's blog at BBC, where as would be expected people have their various opinions on Rafa not congratulating Ferguson, ....


strangely a non pool or man U commented rafa outburst is as arrogant as fergie.

i can understand the high ground rafa seeks to keep the morale of the team. we must continue the winning attitude

i think if its where rafa is directing the attention of outburst to himself & not his team. I not entirely disappointed, but more frustrated , if only we had little more luck (stoke goal allowed, & 2 games against villa not drawn, where would we be. not greedy to have all the drawn games converted but just these 3 games. )
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Anyway, jokes aside, I m hoping that Hyypia can be the captain for his last game this weekend like fowler did. smile.gif
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why not? after reina scores an amazing goal from his end thanks to a gomes blunder tongue.gif

anyway, more interested in the relegation battle.
hull vs mu no need to say la.
newcastle vs villa is more interesting.
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on the Rafa not congrulating Fergie...i want everyone to go with me..
we all dont hear rafa saying it himself..we all read news / tv / radio..
so dont judge..looking at the quotes of Rafa's words..he said nothing about Fergie..
and quotes dont lie..they cant be totally changed..

in short: everyone and sadly including our own fans only read news..thats injustice towards Rafa!
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on the Rafa not congrulating Fergie...i want everyone to go with me..
we all dont hear rafa saying it himself..we all read news / tv / radio..
so dont judge..looking at the quotes of Rafa's words..he said nothing about Fergie..
and quotes dont lie..they cant be totally changed..

in short: everyone and sadly including our own fans only read news..thats injustice towards Rafa!
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Uh, exactly? That's what all the talk is about isn't it? Whether Rafa should congratulate Ferguson or not.
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instead, i see lotsa "Bitter Rafa refused to congratulate Fergie" , "New Rafa's Rant: no congrats to Fergie" , "Rafa been given two chances to congratulate Fergie but didnt do so" , "Rafa continue the war" , "Bitter Rafa in title snubs" , "Rafa fuels feud with Ferguson"..and thats all people talking about

u see what i mean?
from "im a vegetarian"...being translated into legendary "fcuk you all meat eater" ?
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i tot when rafa congratulated the mancs, that means including all the staff right?

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QUOTE(x13u5t3r @ May 20 2009, 08:29 AM)
instead, i see lotsa "Bitter Rafa refused to congratulate Fergie" , "New Rafa's Rant: no  congrats to Fergie" , "Rafa been given two chances to congratulate Fergie but didnt do so" , "Rafa continue the war" , "Bitter Rafa in title snubs" , "Rafa fuels feud with Ferguson"..and thats all people talking about

u see what i mean?
from "im a vegetarian"...being translated into legendary "fcuk you all meat eater" ?
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Yes, I see what you mean. All those are just the media spinning the story to make it more sensational and provocative. And the media always ask loaded questions when conducting interviews to get an answer from which they then proceed to make a mountain from the molehill. And if they don't get an answer? Well, they then spin the non-answer into an interpretation that is just as sensational and provocative.

That's why I've not criticized Rafa and called him names or labeled him anything. I've just stated what I would have liked to see, that's all.
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It just occured to me that the Mancs have a say in the relegation battle seeing as they are playing Hull who are fighting for Premiership survival. Remember what happened when we fielded a weakened side a couple of seasons ago, in anticipation of the Champions League Final? Neil Warnock went balistic claiming we were being unsportsmanlike and contributed to them going down by losing. Little did he realise that he had 37 other games to save his ass prior to that game.

I wonder what will be said if Fergie fields a reserve side having already won the league? I'm waiting in anticipation. So far there has been no mention of this I don't think.
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2 words duke - double standards. I won't be surprised if the press stay quiet about it nor if none of the relegation battle managers say anything about it. Just the way it is mate. doh.gif

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"Fergie hints at United rotation for crucial Hull clash"

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ahh the exact thing i was about to say... Mutd having a say in the final match of the season dont see Phil Brown running his mouth off, and i doubt if there is any noise its gona be made its gonna come out from Shearer's behind, and bet my bottom dollar some of them will be rested,

anyways no one is talking about this weekend match? us against Spurs? Well i hope Hyypia gets what they call it guard of honor? like what Carra got during midseason for reaching a milestone in club appearances, he deserves it and a fitting farewell to one of our legends

btw JonC its spelt as relegation tongue.gif

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It doesn't matter if Hull or Newcastle get relegated...Either one relegated, Rafa can raid their players tongue.gif

Didn't we link to Steven taylor and Michael Turner earlier?Time to get English player since Hyypia is leaving us brows.gif
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It doesn't matter if Hull or Newcastle get relegated...Either one relegated, Rafa can raid their players tongue.gif

Didn't we link to Steven taylor and Michael Turner earlier?Time to get English player since Hyypia is leaving us brows.gif
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Ian Rush: I was pleased to see Jamie Carragher and Alvaro Arbeloa go toe to toe
IN a strange way, I was actually quite pleased to see Jamie Carragher’s difference of opnion with Alvaro Arbeloa make so many headlines yesterday.

It just underlined how little the papers have had to take Liverpool to task over in recent months.

They can’t complain about the quality or ambition of our football.

They can’t point the finger at any defensive deficiencies.

And they can’t say we haven’t been scoring goals.

So they jumped on a couple of team-mates having the kind of disagreement which goes on at every training ground probably every day of the week.

It reminded me of the famous bust-up Bruce Grobbelaar had with Jim Beglin during the 1986 FA Cup final.

Or Brucie’s tete a tete with Steve McManaman a few years later.

Both incidents came in derby matches we were losing – and highlighted a fierce will to win.

Both incidents were instantly forgotten, as I’m sure this latest flare up will be, too.

In fact if you think back to the Cup Final Brucie actually extended his hand to Jim within seconds of shoving him.

Jamie has already said he and Alvaro have kissed and made up, and as far as they’re concerned that’s the end of it.



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Ian Rush: Why all the fuss about Rafa Benitez snubbing Alex Ferguson?

UNLESS I missed something, Manchester United were crowned Premier League champions on Saturday afternoon.

It wasn’t their manager who was crowned, it wasn’t any individual footballer – it was Manchester United as a club.

So quite why such a fuss is being made about Rafa Benitez refusing to congratulate his Old Trafford counterpart personally I’m not sure.

Just re-read Rafa’s interview after Sunday’s defeat of West Bromwich Albion once again.

“I will say congratulations to Manchester United,” he said. “They have done well, but I do not want to say too much.”

That’s his prerogative as manager of Liverpool and certainly not deserving of the “Bitter Benitez” headlines I’ve been reading.

Manchester United won the Premier League. That’s a combination of players, staff, supporters – and their manager.

I am sure Sir Alex Ferguson himself would be the first to acknowledge that fact himself.

United won the league because they were the most consistent team and the best equipped squad throughout the season.

I actually think that compared to previous campaigns, United gave their rivals an opportunity this season.

They left a chink of space in their armour, but nobody – Liverpool included – was able to take advantage.

At the end of the day it was Manchester United who were crowned champions – so it’s congratulations to them, their staff, to Ryan Giggs and the players – and to Alex Ferguson.


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he still is a legend. IAN RUSH!!

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2 words duke - double standards. I won't be surprised if the press stay quiet about it nor if none of the relegation battle managers say anything about it. Just the way it is mate.  doh.gif
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relegation battling club (managers) will not be please but as usual "DS" comes about.

"we are in CF final, we will rotate (rest) players - fergie" of which i dont blame their fans who will support 101%. it just unfortuante (for relegation battling club's) but how will the press react?

"Bitter rafa", "what next rafa" , "Discontented players in LFc dressing room", "Americans still looking for buyer"

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darn, for them able to have top notch players linked (bazema, ribery, kaka) because they have financial muscle. We have to sell to buy. not that its bad, but the UK press will question rafa transfer policy (not surprising).



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Benitez to bring Tevez to Anfield

Rafa Benitez is interested in bringing Manchester United striker Carlos Tevez to Anfield in the summer.

Benitez has made the Argentine his top priority and will look to bid £22million in the summer.

Benitez has alerted the player’s representatives of his determination to make a deal happen.

Tevez is ready to snub overtures from across Europe and a £135,000-a-week offer from Manchester City to become the first player to move from Old Trafford to Anfield in 45 years.

Tevez, last week, announced his intention to quit Man United in the summer.

Liverpool may let go of £18m-rated Spanish midfielder Xabi Alonso to raise the necessary funds for Tevez.

Along with Tevez, Aston Villa’s Gareth Barry is also set to join Liverpool in the summer with a deal already believed to have been struck.

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Benitez to bring Tevez to Anfield

Rafa Benitez is interested in bringing Manchester United striker Carlos Tevez to Anfield in the summer.

Benitez has made the Argentine his top priority and will look to bid £22million in the summer.

Benitez has alerted the player’s representatives of his determination to make a deal happen.

Tevez is ready to snub overtures from across Europe and a £135,000-a-week offer from Manchester City to become the first player to move from Old Trafford to Anfield in 45 years.

Tevez, last week, announced his intention to quit Man United in the summer.

Liverpool may let go of £18m-rated Spanish midfielder Xabi Alonso to raise the necessary funds for Tevez.

Along with Tevez, Aston Villa’s Gareth Barry is also set to join Liverpool in the summer with a deal already believed to have been struck.

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UEFA TIP YOUNG RED FOR STARDOM

UEFA have named Academy ace Christopher Buchtmann as one of their top 10 stars of the future.
The left-back, who turned 17 last month, was one of the standout performers as Germany clinched the European U17 Championship on Monday.

Buchtmann has also impressed in helping Liverpool Under-18s reach the FA Youth Cup final.

The official UEFA list is as follows:

Patrick ter Mate (Netherlands) - Vitesse/AGOVV Academy Cutodian
Janick Kamber (Switzerland) - FC Basel 1893
Marc Muniesa (Spain) - FC Barcelona
Dennis Appiah (France) - AS Monaco
Marco Fossati (Italy) - FC Internazionale
Deniz Herber (Turkey) - FC St. Pauli
Christopher Buchtmann (Germany) - Liverpool
Jack Wilshere (England) - Arsenal
Lennart Thy (Germany) - Werder Bremen
Luc Castaignos (Netherlands) - Feyenoord



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rafa is throwing up lots of smokescreens.
still got 1.5 months til july 1st when the transfer window opens, so whatever is reported between now and then...i dont really care...unless dossena or lucas gets sold tongue.gif
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Reports in France suggest interest from Premier League clubs is mounting in gifted forward Yoann Gourcuff.

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AC Milan attacker Gourcuff is currently on loan at Bordeaux and he has shone in Ligue 1 this season, leading to rumours of interest in his services.

Bordeaux are thought to be keen to extend his stay at Stade Chaban-Delmas but it is suggested Gourcuff's wage demands could prove a sticking point.

It is now claimed that Liverpool and Manchester City have been monitoring the 22-year-old's situation, although neither club have commented on the speculation.

Scouts from the Reds and City are said to have attended Bordeaux's 3-2 victory over Le Mans on Saturday as Gourcuff netted his side's second goal.

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I really cannot understand the compulsion to sell Xabi. What does Gareth Barry have over him? What is the point in acquiring good players when we are releasing them as well?
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somehow Rafa has a weird way of showing contradictory tactics in his transfers over the years.

at the moment, i'm incline to agree that its smokescreens to throw our rivals focus away from our real targets.. that being a top secret project that only Rafa might know.. so its too early to tell
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there a rumor said that benitez willing to put £50 million for tevez..

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there a rumor said that benitez willing to put £50 million for tevez..
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 20 2009, 03:50 PM)
I really cannot understand the compulsion to sell Xabi. What does Gareth Barry have over him? What is the point in acquiring good players when we are releasing them as well?
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Beats me, it would had made sense last season because Xabi wasnt performing well the last 2 seasons prior, so Rafa probably felt compelled to sign another CM. But I also heard that last season was just another Rafa's bluff in pressing the club to secure his targets. Apparently, Rafa was told some months before the August transfer window that he will have the money to spend on another CM regardless if he were to sell Alonso. But when August came and it was clear to Rafa the club or Parry wasnt holding to true to his words, he threatened to sell Alonso to raise the cash. Maybe he did want to see Alonso, or maybe it was just one of his Machiavelli stunt. I dont think we will ever know the real story.

Anyways, it doesnt make much sense selling Alonso now, since the player proved that he's still got it in him to help us win the league. But his terrific season also suggests how delicate our season had been. Alonso had 8 or so opposition players sent off, had one of those player made proper contact and gotten Alonso sidelined, our season would had been muich different and we could had been in worse position than we are now. It makes sense to still continue our pursuit for another CM and strengthen our depth in the middle. I like Barry and i think he fits the bill. He doesnt have the range of Alonso's pass but he's got good movement, a grafter with a good engine, versatile and is a box to box midfielder. Maybe Rafa prefers that kind of CM, the type that attacks the box, where as Alonso is kinda like a deep lying playmaker who enjoys sitting back and doing his damage by his passing range. They're both different kind of CMs, and are good options to have. I have a good feeling think Rafa wants both players at Anfield, rather than only either one of them.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 20 2009, 12:58 PM)
It just occured to me that the Mancs have a say in the relegation battle seeing as they are playing Hull who are fighting for Premiership survival. Remember what happened when we fielded a weakened side a couple of seasons ago, in anticipation of the Champions League Final? Neil Warnock went balistic claiming we were being unsportsmanlike and contributed to them going down by losing. Little did he realise that he had 37 other games to save his ass prior to that game.

I wonder what will be said if Fergie fields a reserve side having already won the league? I'm waiting in anticipation. So far there has been no mention of this I don't think.
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Jaysus man, dont know why you even going there for Liverpool news. That piece of shite is thrash and you shouldnt be going near that, left along linking it here.
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that why i just said rumor..
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Jaysus man, dont know why you even going there for Liverpool news. That piece of shite is thrash and you shouldnt be going near that, left along linking it here.
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I only go there for the girlie pics tongue.gif (which to some would still be wrong)
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that why i just said rumor..
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ok , my mistake, should be more aware next time...but the news itself kindda surprise me when they mention about 50million for tevez.. doh.gif
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50 mil for tevez is close to impossible if it were true.

its been reported that he only has a transfer kitty of close to 25m and he needs to sell a few (sigh) to create a kitty of at least 50m.

that being said, I think Barry and Glen is on the way and a final offer to silva in the books. Albiol is also reported to have received a bid and until any of that happens, its still too early to tell.
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Nono...Back in March, reports claimed that Rafa has kitty of 40m+..30m by the yanks and 12m from keane's deal... Not sure if it's true...
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QUOTE(REDShaun @ May 20 2009, 04:55 PM)
50 mil for tevez is close to impossible if it were true.

its been reported that he only has a transfer kitty of close to 25m and he needs to sell a few (sigh) to create a kitty of at least 50m.

that being said, I think Barry and Glen is on the way and a final offer to silva in the books. Albiol is also reported to have received a bid and until any of that happens, its still too early to tell.
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but for rafa to spend it for 1 player is just insane, totally not like liverpool way..
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No, after reading so many topics in which it has one reasoning behind it being

"we cannot afford players like other clubs" (this has been going on for seasons)

, it is definitely not how we would splurge on 1 single player, even if wages are included.

well i hope not at least. For Torres we made a great buy but we also made a spectacular epic fail with Keane.

All in all, I think we are not the kind of team to spend excessively on just one player for next season.
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Keane money 15-18mil, transfer kitty 20mil, Dossena + Babel 16-18mil

Total sale = 51-56 mil

Barry - 9mil
Johnson 9-12mil - most probably under 10 mil
Pranjic - 9mil
Silva/Tevez/Levazzi/Goucouf/Dzeko - 20-25 mil

Total Puchase = 47 - 55 mil

Unless my calculation is noob, dont see the point of needing to sell Alonso to raise cash. We should be able to rebuild our left side and acquire new RB with those sales. At most we'll probably be 5mil short, dont tell me we're going to sell Alonso just to raise 5mil!


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we also had a confirm buy (not sure on this)

a player a name i can neither spell or pronouce

Szylowcoski or something...
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 20 2009, 03:50 PM)
I really cannot understand the compulsion to sell Xabi. What does Gareth Barry have over him? What is the point in acquiring good players when we are releasing them as well?
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It was Rafa's handling (or rather mishandling) of the Alonso transfer saga that put me off Liverpool in the first place, and honestly, if Rafa persists in offloading a very very decent player who still wants to stay with us, I'd solidly be in anti Rafa camp for the forseeable future.
At the moment I am ambivalent at best shakehead.gif

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I only go there for the girlie pics  tongue.gif (which to some would still be wrong)
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i dont agree at all to sign Gareth Barry....
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i dont agree at all to sign Gareth Barry....
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Keane to score hat trick this week...I bet my ass on it...
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Rafa said you dont have to agree at all...He is the manager tongue.gif

Keane to score hat trick this week...I bet my ass on it...
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Rafa said you dont have to agree at all...He is the manager tongue.gif

Keane to score hat trick this week...I bet my ass on it...
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I tot should be Gerrard grab hat trick and get top scorer of the season. rclxms.gif
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I tot should be Gerrard grab hat trick and get top scorer of the season.  rclxms.gif
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wow, suddenly there are lots of love for lucas here.. i tot months ago he was ur team drawing factor?
i watched ur games against west brom last time.. noticed lucas has improved.. but still, his tackle against west brom's striker in pen box should been a pen.. need to sort out at that.. last time he conceded a pen for a silly foul too rite? caused a draw
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For the record, I still think Lucas is crap. I'd expect a Brazilian to have better close control than he does. Yes he does linkup play with simple passes but I have higher expectations of him. Yes he was captain of the Brazilian U-21 side but that doesn't mean he will take his game up a notch. I think it's safe to say he screws up more than he plays well.

For the record you guys are going to be sued if you field a weakened side? I think it's BS by the way. Too freaking bad for the relegation candidates. They had 37 games to save themselves and you don't owe them anything.
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bah, there will be no live telecast for our last game against spurs.
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OMG ! 50 mil for tevez?Rafa Benitez signed Torres also only using 20 mil.

Tevez need 50 mil so terrible?
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OMG ! 50 mil for tevez?Rafa Benitez signed Torres also only using 20 mil.

Tevez need 50 mil so terrible?
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The signing on fee is around the region of 20 mil. His entire package inclusive of his wages (etc 160,000 per week) for the duration of his contract will come up to 50 mil.
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QUOTE(darrengoh @ May 21 2009, 10:28 AM)
OMG ! 50 mil for tevez?Rafa Benitez signed Torres also only using 20 mil.

Tevez need 50 mil so terrible?
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I wouldn't buy into that non-sense from The S@n. Take it with a pinch of salt mate.
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what!?!?

really... this is just fark up!
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I don't think tevez is good for me.
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He might not look good laugh.gif but he is the criteria that Rafa is looking for...... HARDWORKING PLAYER
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 21 2009, 09:44 AM)
For the record, I still think Lucas is crap. I'd expect a Brazilian to have better close control than he does. Yes he does linkup play with simple passes but I have higher expectations of him. Yes he was captain of the Brazilian U-21 side but that doesn't mean he will take his game up a notch. I think it's safe to say he screws up more than he plays well.

For the record you guys are going to be sued if you field a weakened side? I think it's BS by the way. Too freaking bad for the relegation candidates. They had 37 games to save themselves and you don't owe them anything.
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Echo that. I expect Lucas to be a first teamer the moment he arrived, you may argue that it takes time for South American to adapt to the style of BPL but it's been 2 years now & I still don't see him as capable of challenging for first team spot, at least for now. As some others already pointed out, if u don't improves by playing alongside some of the best then either u cannot cut it or not suitable for BPL, that is why I'm not impressed even if he's improved quite a bit. He doesn't seems to have the extra ummphh that inspires confidence to me either defensively or attacking wink.gif

How the heck you gonna proved it's a weaker team? Even if it's consists of star players, won't they held back in anticipating of next game which is more important? If thats the case won't it'll be better off with a subs team? Whoever got relegated only have themselves to blame. & I'm still pissed by the way tt Warnock blaming us for his team demise then blaming WHU for fielding Tevez, I was like...no matter how u interpret it, it still sounds like sore losers shakehead.gif
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The signing on fee is around the region of 20 mil. His entire package inclusive of his wages (etc 160,000 per week) for the duration of his contract will come up to 50 mil.
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i believe it's closer to around 26mil for the transfer according to some reports. but frankly speaking, 160k/week for tevez is crazy, even the likes of ronaldo and gerrard are yet to demand such wages. and to be honest, i still can't find how we are going to allocate a position for tevez in our first 11 (he definitely will play week in week out with that kind of salary, right?).

and today's paper made me laugh. if you go down, it's because you're not good enough. simple as that. every team has the rights to field whichever player they like, and if they want to field an entire team of under 17s then so be it. every team has 38 games to make it count, and now the relegation-bound teams are making it sound like the FA gave them only 1 game to decide their BPL status.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 21 2009, 09:44 AM)
For the record, I still think Lucas is crap. I'd expect a Brazilian to have better close control than he does. Yes he does linkup play with simple passes but I have higher expectations of him. Yes he was captain of the Brazilian U-21 side but that doesn't mean he will take his game up a notch. I think it's safe to say he screws up more than he plays well.

For the record you guys are going to be sued if you field a weakened side? I think it's BS by the way. Too freaking bad for the relegation candidates. They had 37 games to save themselves and you don't owe them anything.
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i think the fans just love supporting an underdog.
he may be 22 and may need more time to develop, but comparing to other 22yr olds out there like fabregas or messi?
long way behind.
and more time is just testing rafa's patience.
to survive in the PL...lucas needs to be more aggressive...and i dont really see that happening.
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QUOTE(livingmonolith @ May 21 2009, 10:38 AM)
and today's paper made me laugh. if you go down, it's because you're not good enough. simple as that. every team has the rights to field whichever player they like, and if they want to field an entire team of under 17s then so be it. every team has 38 games to make it count, and now the relegation-bound teams are making it sound like the FA gave them only 1 game to decide their BPL status.
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Precisely. I didn't read the entire article and am left wondering what basis they have to threaten to sue? It only makes sense that a side already having won the title with nothing more to play for would rest players for an upcoming cup final.
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you and me tongue.gif
i think the fans just love supporting an underdog.
he may be 22 and may need more time to develop, but comparing to other 22yr olds out there like fabregas or messi?
long way behind.
and more time is just testing rafa's patience.
to survive in the PL...lucas needs to be more aggressive...and i dont really see that happening.
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naw, personal opinion I still think Lucas is not the kind of players Liverpool needs. He doesn't inspire, he has no presence and he is inconsistent. Sorry if i'm being too harsh, but how many times have you lament or grumble when he is on the field? Some people I know will cringe everytime they see his name on the starting line-up.

he falls down easy
he gives away the ball
he looks so soft i liken him to a marshmallow waiting to be squashed

to be fair, he does score some goals here and there, but overall i still think he is not Liverpool material... blush.gif

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Precisely. I didn't read the entire article and am left wondering what basis they have to threaten to sue? It only makes sense that a side already having won the title with nothing more to play for would rest players for an upcoming cup final.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 21 2009, 09:44 AM)
For the record, I still think Lucas is crap. I'd expect a Brazilian to have better close control than he does. Yes he does linkup play with simple passes but I have higher expectations of him. Yes he was captain of the Brazilian U-21 side but that doesn't mean he will take his game up a notch. I think it's safe to say he screws up more than he plays well.

For the record you guys are going to be sued if you field a weakened side? I think it's BS by the way. Too freaking bad for the relegation candidates. They had 37 games to save themselves and you don't owe them anything.
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Harsh on lucas mate. Like you said, he's had bad and good games. That only proves that his game has been erratic; he's played better away from home when he's not under pressure and jeers of the home crowd. His impact on the reserve team was immense; they won the league when he was playing, the team finished 2nd last when he made it to first team bench. He's been asked to play multiple roles in the team, so i dont think he had the comfort to settle nicely in a particular position and improve certain aspect of his game. Those one touch passes and layoffs maybe simple but most times they're hard to execute yet he does it effortlessly and the ball is off to another player - hence most of us take nothing much of it. Xabi and particularly Masc tends to need 2 touches to get full control of the ball before making use of it. Those simple layoffs and passes may not look pleasing to the eyes, but it provides the crucial extra seconds and space for players like Gerrard and Benny to do their damage. Extra secs for players like Kuyt to rev up for lacking pace and skills. We may not appreciate those simple stuff but you can bet his teammates appreciate and even value those kind of simple football. Simple one touch keeps our possession ticking over, allowing players to rapidly swarm the opponents and enabling quicker switch plays. Its the stuff that Arsenal are famed for and what the mancs are excellent at. Maybe this is what Rafa sees in the 21 year old, and is what i see when boy's at the top of his game. He's been erratic, but in no way shape or form that he's a 'crap' player.
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naw, personal opinion I still think Lucas is not the kind of players Liverpool needs. He doesn't inspire, he has no presence and he is inconsistent. Sorry if i'm being too harsh, but how many times have you lament or grumble when he is on the field? Some people I know will cringe everytime they see his name on the starting line-up.

he falls down easy
he gives away the ball
he looks so soft i liken him to a marshmallow waiting to be squashed

to be fair, he does score some goals here and there, but overall i still think he is not Liverpool material... blush.gif
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but there has also been countless non-liverpool material players throughout the 90s and 00s...and lucas to be fair isnt as bad as most of them.

im gonna try to go source for a press pass and ask rafa questions on lucas when he comes here...
wanna see if his answer is like 'lucas is here and im happy'...

then lets all take guesses as to which club he'll be sold to...maybe the returning sheff utd tongue.gif
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lucas is still young and still has a lot to offer, its not easy to playing in bpl where everything is so quick and physically demanding, to be honest i dont think that lucas playing really that bad consider how many chance that he had been given..ok maybe he still way far from the standard if you compare him with gerrard or alonso but that not fair isnt it..the only mistake i think he made is choosing liverpool at the first place, he should go and play in spain or italy to improve and probably get more chance to play week in week out.

even world class player who play in bpl turn out to be a major flop who can even forget about shevchenko and morientes moment in bpl..
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lol, kindly do not remind me of Morientes... biggrin.gif
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lol, kindly do not remind me of Morientes... biggrin.gif
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To be honest the ones that i hate is Diouf...he disgrace our clubs name with his behaviour
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you and me tongue.gif
i think the fans just love supporting an underdog.
he may be 22 and may need more time to develop, but comparing to other 22yr olds out there like fabregas or messi?
long way behind.
and more time is just testing rafa's patience.
to survive in the PL...lucas needs to be more aggressive...and i dont really see that happening.
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Nothing to do with underdog. He's a young Liverpool player who puts his head down and carries out whats asked of him. That itself warrant our support. How can you compare him to Cesc and Messi ? You do realize those 2 taletns are the products of Barca Academy that has been producing talents year after year ? Cesc had even been groomed at Arsenal youth so he's had the best of 2 youth institutions. Maybe both of these players are more gifted but what certain is that Lucas sure as hell didnt have the privilege of learning at Barca youth at the age of 12.
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Ouch! So many Lucas comments now.

As a pure Lucas hater, I'm behind all who still cannot accept him.

Reason? Easy. One right doesn't make up two wrong. Fairly enough, throughout the season he improved quite a lot. But still not up to Liverpool midfielders standard. From history, we got the best CMs for most of the seasons. So to have fragile, slow CM that made too many mistakes in early and mid season that may be the reason for all the 'boring' matches is not good. In early season, while we have more choices to field in the CMs but Rafa loves him, so what the hell. Even he's making so many mistakes, Rafa forgives him. Even when we need a win so badly and it was proved Lucas is not the one who can provide it, Rafa subs out Gerrard or Torres, not Lucas. I even made a statistical analysis on Lucas passes and win ratio when he's on the pitch, the result is not good. We were better without him.

But to be frank, I would like to see him for another season with us. If he can continue improving and prove me wrong like Kuyt does, I believe he can be one of the deadliest CM in the world. Just don't compare his age and skill to ones like Fabregas or Messi, they are genius, while Lucas need more practice to improve, slowly. So I'm giving him another season to prove himself to me. And I may change my status from his hater to his biggest fan. If not, bye bye and fcuk yourself.

I hate him but I want him to stay.
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Come on guys, 2 seasons ago, some of us (including me) were bashing Kuyt for not performing as based on his goal tally for Feyenoord. He missed clear cut chances, couldn't score from 6 yard, way older than Lucas. But hey, look at him now. Not a winger. But is willing to play on the right wing and is now establish. Though lack of pace,and dribbling skills. Many of us already know his role and importance of backing up the full backs.

And scoring goals occasionally. If I'm not mistaken he's already got a double figure of goals in all competitions? Come on guys. We need to look at things in the bigger picture.

Lucas may yet to be the 1st team player. Nonetheless, he's good enough to provide cover to Alonso/Masch when they're not available. Some of us would also be rambling if we have a top CM sitting on the bench. And say, "He's getting paid so much to sit on the bench" Oh come on...
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Come on guys, 2 seasons ago, some of us (including me) were bashing Kuyt for not performing as based on his goal tally for Feyenoord. He missed clear cut chances, couldn't score from 6 yard, way older than Lucas. But hey, look at him now. Not a winger. But is willing to play on the right wing and is now establish. Though lack of pace,and dribbling skills. Many of us already know his role and importance of backing up the full backs.

And scoring goals occasionally. If I'm not mistaken he's already got a double figure of goals in all competitions? Come on guys. We need to look at things in the bigger picture.

Lucas may yet to be the 1st team player. Nonetheless, he's good enough to provide cover to Alonso/Masch when they're not available. Some of us would also be rambling if we have a top CM sitting on the bench. And say, "He's getting paid so much to sit on the bench" Oh come on...
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Agree. Time and time again, fans been proven wrong to judge our players prematurely, yet surprisingly continues to remain short sighted and slams the players. We laugh at other rival's fans yet we're no different. Easy to say 'oh he's shite. i dont like him!' 'Oh he's improved, i like!!' .. fickle fans.
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Let's say.... IF...a BIG IF.....

Tevez, barry joins us....and alonso leaves.... Our formation will be like this next season?


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Kuyt Masch Gerrard Barry

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Doesn't look nice at all...One thing for sure,I will cursing at Rafa if he sells Riera vmad.gif

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wonder what is the true meaning of supporter, are we only support and idolize the good players(superstar) and continue hating/bashing the bad useless one..or to show support regardless what even when the team is down or more importantly when the players is down and broken..
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QUOTE(hfi @ May 21 2009, 11:39 AM)
Agree. Time and time again, fans been proven wrong to judge our players prematurely, yet surprisingly continues to remain short sighted and slams the players. We laugh at other rival's fans yet we're no different. Easy to say 'oh he's shite. i dont like him!' 'Oh he's improved, i like!!' .. fickle fans.
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to be fair each has their own opinions as to the players we have. whose to say whats wrong or right. Each individual views the games more or less differently, that is all.

I have not like Diouf nor Cisse when they were with us. Its a matter of choice, maybe even the way they play that make them seem not in-sync with our squad. I have the same opinion of Lucas. We can sit and rant about changing each others view about a player like him, but when we watch the game, you guys see him as a potential star, but in some camp..like me; i see him going at it the same way he approaches other games. With hardly no urgency, creativity nor passion. he's just there to play second fiddle and he seems to have accepted that is his place.

if he was braver, more aggressive, more and maybe more hardworking to show that he isn't, then all well and good. but still, I will not view him as anywhere near the kind of player we need. blush.gif

so please, can we just accept the fact that we all have our own opinions on this.. thanks biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ELm_ELm @ May 21 2009, 11:51 AM)
wonder what is the true meaning of supporter, are we only support and idolize the good players(superstar) and continue hating/bashing the bad useless one..or to show support regardless what even when the team is down or more importantly when the players is down and broken..
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this is liverpool.
not chester, northampton or luton.

how many yrs are we gonna sit around watching bad players come thru and stay? and then blame it all on a team with not enough depth again to challenge for no.19?
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I'm not sure about you guys.In his 1st season, when he helped us to beat Everton, all of us were hailing him like god..Some even said he will be as good as Gerrard. Now, everyone bashing him like rubbish.

Again, form is temporary, class is permanent.Then again, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, not trying to chg anyone...
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ May 21 2009, 11:51 AM)
Let's say.... IF...a BIG IF.....

Tevez, barry joins us....and alonso leaves.... Our formation will be like this next season?


Reina

Arbe Carra Agger Insua wub.gif

Kuyt  Masch Gerrard Barry

Torres Tevez


Doesn't look nice at all...One thing for sure,I will cursing at Rafa if he sells Riera  vmad.gif
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I hope to god not. I like Tevez but is he honestly better than Gerrard up there with Torres ? I dont think so. Lets not forget we could have easily won the league had we had both Gerrard and Torres played more this season. We need a versatile AM i reckon, someone like Silva, Maxi, Levazzi etc. Arshavin would had been the perfect player for us. Cant believe Wenger got him for 12mil. Think below is a title winning ream imo:



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Arby/Johson/Carra -- Carra/Skrtel -- Agger/Skrtel/New CB? -- Insua/Aurelio/Barry

Masc/Lucas -- Alonso/Barry/Lucas

Kuyt/Benny/Silva -- Gerrard/Silva/Benny -- Silva/Riera/Barry

Torres/Kuyt/Ngog
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QUOTE(hfi @ May 21 2009, 12:02 PM)
I hope to god not. I like Tevez but is he honestly better than Gerrard up there with Torres ? I dont think so. Lets not forget we could have easily won the league had we had both Gerrard and Torres played more this season. We need a versatile AM i reckon, someone like Silva, Maxi, Levazzi etc. Arshavin would had been the perfect player for us. Cant believe Wenger got him for 12mil. Think below is a title winning ream imo:



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Arby/Johson/Carra -- Carra/Skrtel -- Agger/Skrtel/New CB? -- Insua/Aurelio/Barry

Masc/Lucas -- Alonso/Barry/Lucas

Kuyt/Benny/Silva -- Gerrard/Silva/Benny -- Silva/Riera/Barry

Torres/Kuyt/Ngog

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Might end up Tevez playing on the left wing... laugh.gif

I would prefer Silva here but it looks like Rafa will bring Tevez to Anfield.Why?Yesterday news, Rafa mentioned that he has to be cautious when spending the money, especially big money on one player.Tevez is proven in BPL while Silva is not.I think he is referring to this.

Chances of Alonso leaving is as likely as Barry joining us.... tongue.gif


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I wanna ask you guys something. Is everyone agree on Teves in Liverpool? Quality proven player he is, but from Liv-Manu sentiment point of view?
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so means in 2yrs time we will have no english players in the first 11...
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so means in 2yrs time we will have no english players in the first 11...
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Time to buy Turner/Taylor if one of the clubs relegates....

And promote Spearing to 1st team.... rclxm9.gif
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LOL, if they implement 6/5 rules then we're screwed with what we have built...

and no, Tevez is good but from Manu to Liverpool... meh i don't know man

and the overall price isn't helping much either, and we all know that his agent is a friggin Vampire
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I wanna ask you guys something. Is everyone agree on Teves in Liverpool? Quality proven player he is, but from Liv-Manu sentiment point of view?
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Reminds me of Paul Ince albeit indirect transfer....

I hate Paul Ince not because he used to be manu players but because he is cocky....Arrogant...

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QUOTE(REDShaun @ May 21 2009, 12:13 PM)
LOL, if they implement 6/5 rules then we're screwed with what we have built...

and no, Tevez is good but from Manu to Liverpool... meh i don't know man

and the overall price isn't helping much either, and we all know that his agent is a friggin Vampire
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Carra and Gerrard have few more years, the 6+5 rules shouldn't be a problem.

Plus, there will be a lot of English players on sales this summer right from Bentley, Crouchie, Turner/Taylor ,Huddlestone, Robinson, Bent, Pennant, etc

Raid one of them tongue.gif

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im wondering on the 6+5 rule...
cos if not mistaken to qualify for that 6...they either have to be english or have gone thru 3yrs in the academy regardless of nationality...

and there again lies our problem tongue.gif

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Reminds me of Paul Ince albeit indirect transfer....

I hate Paul Ince not because he used to be manu players but because he is cocky....Arrogant...

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Carra and Gerrard have few more years, the 6+5 rules shouldn't be a problem.

Plus, there will be a lot of English players on sales this summer right from Bentley, Crouchie, Turner/Taylor ,Huddlestone, Robinson, Bent, Pennant, etc

Raid one of them  tongue.gif
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Pennant is still ours, why would we want to buy him back? tongue.gif

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those going to SG to see liverpool...hres the stadium layout.
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Liv going to Thailand as well right? Got info like this for Thailand visit?
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Liv going to Thailand as well right? Got info like this for Thailand visit?
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try google and see tongue.gif
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Must I do it myself? lol. Never mind, I'll just cover this stop of their tour. Only MU and Liv coming to Asia this time around, correct?
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Must I do it myself? lol. Never mind, I'll just cover this stop of their tour. Only MU and Liv coming to Asia this time around, correct?
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and tottenham to HK .
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QUOTE(REDShaun @ May 21 2009, 11:54 AM)
to be fair each has their own opinions as to the players we have. whose to say whats wrong or right. Each individual views the games more or less differently, that is all.

I have not like Diouf nor Cisse when they were with us. Its a matter of choice, maybe even the way they play that make them seem not in-sync with our squad. I have the same opinion of Lucas. We can sit and rant about changing each others view about a player like him, but when we watch the game, you guys see him as a potential star, but in some camp..like me; i see him going at it the same way he approaches other games. With hardly no urgency, creativity nor passion. he's just there to play second fiddle and he seems to have accepted that is his place.

if he was braver, more aggressive, more and maybe more hardworking to show that he isn't, then all well and good. but still, I will not view him as anywhere near the kind of player we need.  blush.gif

so please, can we just accept the fact that we all have our own opinions on this.. thanks  biggrin.gif
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Im fine with various opinions, but this is a forum; if you post an opinion whether valid or not, that opinion is open to rebuttals and discussions. Which is what we're doing now. Im not trying to shaft down opinions down anyone's throats, just pointing out my views that happens to contradict yours and other opinions. Like when you say Lucas has no urgency at all in his play is simply not true. He has played with more urgency than say Cesc did against the mancs at OT. Or Carrick has against us at OT.

Anyways, accepting opinions works both ways doesnt it ? I accept that at times he's had bad games, so perhaps other opinions differ from yours would hold water as well.
QUOTE(solstice818 @ May 21 2009, 12:08 PM)
Might end up Tevez playing on the left wing... laugh.gif

I would prefer Silva here but it looks like Rafa will bring Tevez to Anfield.Why?Yesterday news, Rafa mentioned that he has to be cautious when spending the money, especially big money on one player.Tevez is proven in BPL while Silva is not.I think he is referring to this.

Chances of Alonso leaving is as likely as Barry joining us.... tongue.gif
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I think i read somewhere Rafa hinted he was going to break another club transfer record. I dont know if he meant that literally or is just another mind games in trying to pressure Fergusson to pay up for Tevez. I know we can play Tevez at left wing, but why tho ? If we going to spend big, lets spend big on an attacking midfielder whose at home playing at that position rather than a make shift striker. If Rafa sell Alonso, you can bet he will bring in another CM. Its too much of gamble for Rafa to pull off by just relying on Barry. Rafa is spinning a lot stuff at the moment, its almost impossible to work out what he's upto.
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QUOTE(hfi @ May 21 2009, 12:32 PM)
Im fine with various opinions, but this is a forum; if you post an opinion whether valid or not, that opinion is open to rebuttals and discussions. Which is what we're doing now. Im not trying to shaft down opinions down anyone's throats, just pointing out my views that happens to contradict yours and other opinions. Like when you say Lucas has no urgency at all in his play is simply not true. He has played with more urgency than say Cesc did against the mancs at OT. Or Carrick has against us at OT. 

Anyways, accepting opinions works both ways doesnt it ? I accept that at times he's had bad games, so perhaps other opinions differ from yours would hold water as well.

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well neither did I say he sucked completely did i? he is not a terrible player but the opinion is just that he is not in-sync with the rest of the squad, but hey maybe its just me or sometimes its just chemistry rolleyes.gif

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Breaking transfer record. Why must we think about Teves when talking about that? Why can't it be Villa, Silva or others? I bet they are not cheap though..
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I think i read somewhere Rafa hinted he was going to break another club transfer record. I dont know if he meant that literally or is just another mind games in trying to pressure Fergusson to pay up for Tevez. I know we can play Tevez at left wing, but why tho ? If we going to spend big, lets spend big on an attacking midfielder whose at home playing at that position rather than a make shift striker. If Rafa sell Alonso, you can bet he will bring in another CM. Its too much of gamble for Rafa to pull off by just relying on Barry. Rafa is spinning a lot stuff at the moment, its almost impossible to work out what he's upto.
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We do need a backup to Torres as well. Not confident in Kuyt playing there.

Tevez/Riera - Gerrard/Benny - Kuyt/Benny

Torres/Tevez/Ngog

Tevez, Gerrard and Kuyt playing free roles around Torres and with Mascherano higher up the pitch, I could see us winning balls in opposition's half. Imo, even at 30m he would still be a good buy - Hard working, match winner, champions mentality, proven bpl player and still young.

Silva is a great buy but there's a risk of not coping with the English game and we still need a backup striker.
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Well we all agreed that he's not bad but rather decent player. To say he'll be a world beater in couple of yrs is hypothetical & irrelevant as the argument is how he perform in first team as of now. For me he's a decent player but lack some kinda quality that will inspire confidence in us. Maybe that quality will comes , maybe not. He's 22 now, if next yr he still cant command 1st team spot, I see he's future lies else where as he won't accept that also.
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QUOTE(hfi @ May 21 2009, 12:32 PM)
I think i read somewhere Rafa hinted he was going to break another club transfer record. I dont know if he meant that literally or is just another mind games in trying to pressure Fergusson to pay up for Tevez. I know we can play Tevez at left wing, but why tho ? If we going to spend big, lets spend big on an attacking midfielder whose at home playing at that position rather than a make shift striker. If Rafa sell Alonso, you can bet he will bring in another CM. Its too much of gamble for Rafa to pull off by just relying on Barry. Rafa is spinning a lot stuff at the moment, its almost impossible to work out what he's upto.
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Why? You dont need why for that... Work rate speaks it all... To rafa, actim index + work rates above anything... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(GulaV @ May 21 2009, 12:44 PM)
Breaking transfer record. Why must we think about Teves when talking about that? Why can't it be Villa, Silva or others? I bet they are not cheap though..
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Because Rafa said he has to be cautious when dealing with transfer and that's a big hint that he knows of the risks of buying players that is not proven in BPL with big money?

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aiyoh enough of actim index la.
else rafa should be trying to sign anelka and berba tongue.gif
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aiyoh enough of actim index la.
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It was Rafa's handling (or rather mishandling) of the Alonso transfer saga that put me off Liverpool in the first place, and honestly, if Rafa persists in offloading a very very decent player who still wants to stay with us, I'd solidly be in anti Rafa camp for the forseeable future.
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Page 3 is all good to me. I'm just saying that some do feel that even those are bad since we're still looking at them from the rag.
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We do need a backup to Torres as well. Not confident in Kuyt playing there.

Tevez/Riera - Gerrard/Benny - Kuyt/Benny

Torres/Tevez/Ngog

Tevez, Gerrard and Kuyt playing free roles around Torres and with Mascherano higher up the pitch, I could see us winning balls in opposition's half. Imo, even at 30m he would still be a good buy - Hard working, match winner, champions mentality, proven bpl player and still young.

Silva is a great buy but there's a risk of not coping with the English game and we still need a backup striker.
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Everyone's given their 2 cents on Lucas, but how many fourth choice 'central midfielders' out there are as good as him?

Added on May 21, 2009, 1:55 pmalso, the three 'suing' clubs have denied the allegations, which are to me ridiculous in the first place - i would say the manager of any given club should be allowed to field whoever he wants.
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QUOTE(madmoz @ May 21 2009, 01:51 PM)
Everyone's given their 2 cents on Lucas, but how many fourth choice 'central midfielders' out there are as good as him?

Added on May 21, 2009, 1:55 pmalso, the three 'suing' clubs have denied the allegations, which are to me ridiculous in the first place - i would say the manager of any given club should be allowed to field whoever he wants.
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Lucas is 3rd choice at the moment madz. Rafa would rather play him ahead of Gerrard when it comes to CM/DM

For 3rd choice CMs (not necesserily better) lets see; Mikel 12mil, Diaby 2m, Ballack bosman, Anderson 18mil. Thats all i can think atm lol.
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I hope to god not. I like Tevez but is he honestly better than Gerrard up there with Torres ? I dont think so. Lets not forget we could have easily won the league had we had both Gerrard and Torres played more this season. We need a versatile AM i reckon, someone like Silva, Maxi, Levazzi etc. Arshavin would had been the perfect player for us. Cant believe Wenger got him for 12mil. Think below is a title winning ream imo:



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Fowler eats grass – Anfield, 1999
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Fowler's inflammatory 1999 Merseyside derby goal celebration, in which he appeared to snort the penalty box white line, was dismissed by his manager as the striker simply "pretending to eat the grass". Everton fans had previously accused Fowler of taking cocaine.

I was the one who dragged Robbie off the ground when I saw what he was doing. I had no idea at all that he was going to do it. I asked him: 'What the bloody hell do you think you were doing there?' I think it was just one of those spur-of-the-moment things, saying that he was getting some almighty stick off the Everton fans. If he had thought about it he probably would have decided it was not the right thing to do. I don't know where Gérard Houllier's explanation came that he was pretending to eat grass — again, it was probably a spur-of-the-moment thing.



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Johnson the target: Benitez in £15m bid to capture Portsmouth and England defender

Liverpool have launched a fresh £15million bid to land Portsmouth right back Glen Johnson.

Manager Rafa Benitez identified the England defender as a target this season but did not have anywhere near the budget to land the player.

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However, Portsmouth still owe around £7m from the £12m transfer of striker Peter Crouch last summer, and Benitez hopes to use that to good effect in his bargaining for Johnson.

The 24-year-old former Chelsea defender signed an improved four-year contract in January but would jump at the chance of a move to Anfield as Benitez looks to add key signings in preparation for a renewed assault on the Barclays Premier League title.

The Spaniard has been encouraged by his side's progress this season and knows his recruitment this summer is pivotal to Liverpool finally toppling fierce rivals Manchester United.

Pompey's financial problems - with owner Sacha Gaydamak still looking for a buyer - mean they will want to drive the price as high as possible, and Liverpool are wary of being dragged into an auction with other clubs.

Tottenham are known to be interested in Johnson, and there will be other bidders with easier access to funds than Benitez.

Liverpool have earmarked a chunk of their squad as being disposable this summer, and the manager accepts he will have to offload players to fund the signings he wants, which could slow the process.

With Aston Villa midfielder Gareth Barry and United's Carlos Tevez also on his wish list, Benitez might be forced to prioritise and that could jeopardise the Johnson deal.

One way of raising funds would be to sell Xabi Alonso amid growing interest from Real Madrid. If Benitez decides to sell the Spain midfielder, he would rather do business with Real but he is also weighing up other options.
Xabi Alonso

Allowing Alonso to leave would be unpopular within the Liverpool dressing room and also among fans, who voiced their displeasure over plans to sell him to Juventus last summer to finance a deal for Barry.

They repeatedly chanted for Alonso and against Barry, and both deals subsequently fell through over differences in valuations. But, while Juventus refused to pay £16m after weeks of haggling, Real are unlikely to balk at Liverpool's asking price as they prepare for a new era under president-elect Florentino Perez.

Real are keen to revive their fortunes after trailing Barcelona in La Liga this season and crashing out to Liverpool in the Champions League.

After being heavily criticised by fans for ditching their interest in Alonso and settling instead for the cheaper option of Denmark's Christian Poulsen, Juve could yet re-enter the race and launch a second attempt to sign the 27-year-old.

Liverpool goalkeeper Pepe Reina last night added more fuel to the controversy over Alonso's possible departure by hailing his form as the main reason for the Merseyside club running United so close in this season's title race.

Reina said: 'Xabi is the player who always seems to have the ball at his feet. He has shown repeatedly that he can pass it five yards or 45, and every time it is just as good, just as accurate.

'This has been his best season so far for Liverpool, and that was the reason why we managed to push United so far in the title race.'

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That's alexander song our right side full back am i correct?
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£23million transfer fee agreed with Real Madrid - reports

Reports in Spain claim that Liverpool and Real Madrid have agreed a £23million transfer fee for Xabi Alonso.

Presidential candidate Florentino Perez has made the Reds midfielder his priority target, this despite the fact that he's not even in power - although he's nailed on to be elected next month.

Liverpool insist the player isn't for sale although KOPTALK sources insist that he is but only if a £20m+ offered comes in for him, with Rafa hoping to get closer to £30m.

Officials at Anfield though claim the player will not be leaving and they have rubbished reports that a fee has already been agreed.

A club official said: "There has been no contact from anyone and the player is not for sale."

We don't want to see Alonso sold. He's been one of our best players all season and he's the best passer of the ball in the Premier League by a mile.

If Real Madrid don't come in with a silly bid there's every chance that Xabi will still be at Anfield next season. As things currently stand, everything is pointing for an exit despite what's coming out of Anfield.


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Fowler eats grass – Anfield, 1999
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Liverpool's Robbie Fowler pretends to snort cocaine from the touch line
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Fowler's inflammatory 1999 Merseyside derby goal celebration, in which he appeared to snort the penalty box white line, was dismissed by his manager as the striker simply "pretending to eat the grass". Everton fans had previously accused Fowler of taking cocaine.

I was the one who dragged Robbie off the ground when I saw what he was doing. I had no idea at all that he was going to do it. I asked him: 'What the bloody hell do you think you were doing there?' I think it was just one of those spur-of-the-moment things, saying that he was getting some almighty stick off the Everton fans. If he had thought about it he probably would have decided it was not the right thing to do. I don't know where Gérard Houllier's explanation came that he was pretending to eat grass — again, it was probably a spur-of-the-moment thing.
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Stuff that, I'm gonna go support Manchester City if this really happens. What a shite way to reward someone for his excellent service.
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Stuff that, I'm gonna go support Manchester City if this really happens. What a shite way to reward someone for his excellent service.
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Stuff that, I'm gonna go support Manchester City if this really happens. What a shite way to reward someone for his excellent service.
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^^ I WILL BLOODY SUPPORT MANCHESTER CITY IF ALONSO IS FORCED OUT OF LIVERPOOL AGAINST HIS WISHES.

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^^ I WILL BLOODY SUPPORT MANCHESTER CITY IF ALONSO IS FORCED OUT OF LIVERPOOL AGAINST HIS WISHES.
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Please la..I wan Alonso to stay at anfield nex season..

Added on May 21, 2009, 9:04 pmPlease la..I wan Alonso to stay at anfield nex season..

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I highly doubt Rafa wants to sell Alonso off because he's a key player in Liverpool's midfield engine. He's long range + pinpoint passing will tear defence apart when the wingers get down at the by lines.

But i think we all heard time and time again, Rafa needs to sell before he can buy and with Real Mariad offering almost 30 million pounds, that's kinda hard offer not to accept, maybe that money will be used to purchase Tevez ... i read that at TheStar paper today, who knows.
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im a gooner too...i still like cesc fabregas.....maybe i should hav him as my avatar....again....hehehehe
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^^ I WILL BLOODY SUPPORT MANCHESTER CITY IF ALONSO IS FORCED OUT OF LIVERPOOL AGAINST HIS WISHES.
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It depends on the price. If Real can pay 20-30 million for Alonso, I think why not?
We have too many CMs anyway.
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QUOTE(TheWhacker @ May 21 2009, 09:56 PM)
I highly doubt Rafa wants to sell Alonso off because he's a key player in Liverpool's midfield engine. He's long range + pinpoint passing will tear defence apart when the wingers get down at the by lines.

But i think we all heard time and time again, Rafa needs to sell before he can buy and with Real Mariad offering almost 30 million pounds, that's kinda hard offer not to accept, maybe that money will be used to purchase Tevez ... i read that at TheStar paper today, who knows.
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If Tevez is coming we all know he won't settle being a sub, it's obvious he can only play up front.

So what impact will it bring to the 1st 11?sacrifice Alonso and put Gerrard back in the CM position?
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QUOTE(bearbear @ May 21 2009, 11:40 PM)
If Tevez is coming we all know he won't settle being a sub, it's obvious he can only play up front.

So what impact will it bring to the 1st 11?sacrifice Alonso and put Gerrard back in the CM position?
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Rumours have it that Rafa wanna sell Riera for 12m .Barry/Tevez will play there....I think IF tevez comes, sometimes, he will have to play on the wing....Expect a little rotation next season.
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QUOTE(bearbear @ May 21 2009, 11:40 PM)
If Tevez is coming we all know he won't settle being a sub, it's obvious he can only play up front.

So what impact will it bring to the 1st 11?sacrifice Alonso and put Gerrard back in the CM position?
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Gerrard can play CM or central attacking midfield pretty well.

It should be sacrifice Alonso for Tevez.
Well, I think it's a good deal.

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Rumours have it that Rafa wanna sell Riera for 12m .Barry/Tevez will play there....I think IF tevez comes, sometimes, he will have to play on the wing....Expect a little rotation next season.
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How much we paid for Riera? 8m?
If we can sell him for 12m, I'd say it's a good deal too.

We need to get rid of some players before we get new players.
Otherwise, we will have too many benchwarmers.

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How much we paid for Riera? 8m?
If we can sell him for 12m, I'd say it's a good deal too.

We need to get rid of some players before we get new players.
Otherwise, we will have too many benchwarmers.
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The thing is, you don't sell all your good players just because of some new players who are yet to prove that they can be as good as those being sold.

How long we take until we found someone play well on the wing? Years and because a little profit, we are selling Riera off?

And alonso too, the understand between him and Mascherano is so well that they linked well with each other.The new partnership in the middle gonna take some time to gel together.Rafa is definitely taking a risk there.
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unless we sell mascherano and buy fabregas so he can partner alonso tongue.gif

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we also have a batch of tickets thru EoA, but we most probably will need help for the hotels side.


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unless we sell mascherano and buy fabregas so he can partner alonso tongue.gif

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wow, SAF818 didnt know u can referee...and i wonder wat u looking at down there...nak main belakang with lucas ah? lucas probably saying 'ok la do watever u want to me, u win'.
and wtf is lucas left hand doing in that other pic?
damn la this SAF818 make lucas pose in compromising positions...
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QUOTE(Everdying @ May 22 2009, 12:29 AM)
wow, SAF818 didnt know u can referee...and i wonder wat u looking at down there...nak main belakang with lucas ah? lucas probably saying 'ok la do watever u want to me, u win'.
and wtf is lucas left hand doing in that other pic?
damn la this SAF818 make lucas pose in compromising positions...
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It depends on the price. If Real can pay 20-30 million for Alonso, I think why not?
We have too many CMs anyway.
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let's say we replaced alonso with <insert a name>. gerrard go back to CM and do alonso's job while players similar to <insert a name> do gerrard's job.

what happen when gerrard injured? expecting lucas doing passing instead of getting cards? laugh.gif

and what if both gerrard and <insert a name> both injured?

the key to win the league always is having players that can play well too during crucial moment.

replacing someone without similar ability like alonso is not such good idea.

i say instead of selling alonso, i will go for babel,pennant. Not to forget we got veronin who is doing well now whistling.gif
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QUOTE(akRia @ May 22 2009, 12:41 AM)
let's say we replaced alonso with <insert a name>. gerrard go back to CM and do alonso's job while players similar to <insert a name> do gerrard's job.

what happen when gerrard injured? expecting lucas doing passing instead of getting cards? laugh.gif

and what if both gerrard and <insert a name> both injured?

the key to win the league always is having players that can play well too during crucial moment.

replacing someone without similar ability like alonso is not such good idea.

i say instead of selling alonso, i will go for babel,pennant. Not to forget we got veronin who is doing well now whistling.gif
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we cant sell Pennant... He is out of contract and will be leaving on FT.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ May 22 2009, 12:49 AM)
we cant sell Pennant... He is out of contract and will be leaving on FT.
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thats if he wants to leave?
wasnt he begging rafa not to sell him before going out on loan to pompey?
maybe we can give him a 1yr contract, and then sell him off when jan window opens tongue.gif
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wah now u appear again.
pm me your number pls.
we also have a batch of tickets thru EoA, but we most probably will need help for the hotels side.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ May 22 2009, 12:51 AM)
thats if he wants to leave?
wasnt he begging rafa not to sell him before going out on loan to pompey?
maybe we can give him a 1yr contract, and then sell him off when jan window opens tongue.gif
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His wage is high.Plus, signing fee not cheap also...Rafa wanna get rid of him as soon as possible since we already have El Zhar as backup to Kuyt...
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ May 22 2009, 12:54 AM)
His wage is high.Plus, signing fee not cheap also...Rafa wanna get rid of him as soon as possible since we already have El Zhar as backup to Kuyt...
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well, pennant is pretty selfish.
remember his demands of 60k a week to RM?
i think he was only earning around 30k with us?
guess he wants to wait out his contract to leave for free, so that without a transfer fee maybe he can ask for more salary from his new club.
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Mr Cohen has obviously never taken the time to read the Taylor Report which stated clearly that ticketless fans were not a contributory factor or responsible for the events of that day.
 
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ May 21 2009, 11:56 PM)
The thing is, you don't sell all your good players just because of some new players who are yet to prove that they can be as good as those being sold.

How long we take until we found someone play well on the wing? Years and because a little profit, we are selling Riera off?

And alonso too, the understand between him and Mascherano is so well that they linked well with each other.The new partnership in the middle gonna take some time to gel together.Rafa is definitely taking a risk there.
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There must be replacement if we want to get rid of some players.
We don't sell all players. That's for sure.
So, the logic is, we must get someone better than Riera before we sell him.

Last I heard, some Liverpool fans said Riera plays like shit. He is one of the cursed players (well, he's not alone, Rafa is being cursed too, Lucas is cursed too, the list goes on).

We can't keep too many central midfielders unless we can have 12 or 13 players on the field.
And we don't have many players with the price tag of 20-30m.

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QUOTE(akRia @ May 22 2009, 12:41 AM)
let's say we replaced alonso with <insert a name>. gerrard go back to CM and do alonso's job while players similar to <insert a name> do gerrard's job.

what happen when gerrard injured? expecting lucas doing passing instead of getting cards? laugh.gif

and what if both gerrard and <insert a name> both injured?

the key to win the league always is having players that can play well too during crucial moment.

replacing someone without similar ability like alonso is not such good idea.

i say instead of selling alonso, i will go for babel,pennant. Not to forget we got veronin who is doing well now whistling.gif
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Well, if we can sell Pennant or Babel for 20-30m, I'd say why not?
Look, if we can sell Alonso and generate some fund for Tevez, I'd say why not?

We have many quality central midfielders. We don't need so many unhappy bench-warmers.

P/S If Gerrard & <insert name> got injured, I think Beneyoun can do the job. He's proven that.

P/S If Torres & Kuyt got injured, I think we don't have any quality player than can do the job. We need a scoring machine <insert name>.

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You do not sell one of your car's tires to be able to afford a new spoiler. Especially if your spare tire is a few inches smaller.

And what's with the selling of Reira? Methinks he did pretty well, much more successful than some of Liverpool's recent wingers, no?
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QUOTE(madmoz @ May 22 2009, 09:38 AM)
You do not sell one of your car's tires to be able to afford a new spoiler. Especially if your spare tire is a few inches smaller.

And what's with the selling of Reira? Methinks he did pretty well, much more successful than some of Liverpool's recent wingers, no?
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The scenario is, we sell redundant tires. We have many spare tires in central midfield.
We have players that can fill up the void space.
Gerard can do it. The cursed Lucas can do it. Of course, we have young players if we let them to have some first-team experiences.

I think Riera is good too.
As i said, if we can get good price for him + a better replacement, why not?
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Damn...I m bad...I actually feel happy because Downing injured...Now Rafa wont get to spend silly money(12m) on Downing, no?
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Damn...I m bad...I actually feel happy because Downing injured...Now Rafa wont get to spend silly money(12m) on Downing, no?
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Downing? why?

If we can get tevez. why downing?
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^^no wor. downing reserved for man city one laugh.gif

^Tevez is no winger. Square pegs don't fit into round holes.

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So where does Tevez play exactly for Man U?
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^^no wor. downing reserved for man city one laugh.gif

^Tevez is no winger. Square pegs don't fit into round holes.
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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ May 22 2009, 11:45 AM)
So where does Tevez play exactly for Man U?
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I rate him like Kuyt. With scoring instinct, of course.

Is Kuyt a winger? Err... I don't know. laugh.gif

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So where does Tevez play exactly for Man U?
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doesn't he play in rooney's position? hence no playing time? Seldom watch the other team in red nowadays.

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I rate him like Kuyt. With scoring instinct, of course.

Is Kuyt a winger? Err... I don't know.  laugh.gif
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and having kuyt and tevez on Liverpool's flanks would be the way forward?

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Tevez --- Gerrard --- Kuyt

methinks not. but since Alonso's the one who seems to be expendable, perhaps this is indeed what Rafa has in mind sad.gif No need to have a superb 'quarterback' pinging long range passes to the wings if your wingers aren't pacy (or even real wingers to start with sad.gif)

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QUOTE(madmoz @ May 22 2009, 11:55 AM)
doesn't he play in rooney's position? hence no playing time? Seldom watch the other team in red nowadays.

Added on May 22, 2009, 11:59 am

and having kuyt and tevez on Liverpool's flanks would be the way forward?

----------- Torres -----------

Tevez --- Gerrard ---  Kuyt

methinks not. but since Alonso's the one who seems to be expendable, perhaps this is indeed what Rafa has in mind sad.gif No need to have a superb 'quarterback' pinging long range passes to the wings if your wingers aren't pacy (or even real wingers to start with sad.gif)
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This is pretty much the same formation we have this season.
The difference is we have Riera on the left.

Look at the statistics, Kuyt did better than Riera.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 22 2009, 12:14 PM)
This is pretty much the same formation we have this season.
The difference is we have Riera on the left.

Look at the statistics, Kuyt did better than Riera.
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The problem with Riera is he is inconsistent. Unlike Kuyt who is consistent throughout the season, Riera is going through cold and hot.

He is one of those who can change the game.Look at the Villa game, he single handed gave us 3 goals - 1FK, 1 PK and 1 goal of his own.In the game against Chelsea(2nd leg), he was a late substitute(IIRC), he was the one providing cross for the 4th goal.

He might not be the greatest left winger in premier league but I have to say that he is one of the best.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ May 22 2009, 12:27 PM)
The problem with Riera is he is inconsistent. Unlike Kuyt who is consistent throughout the season, Riera is going through cold and hot.

He is one of those who can change the game.Look at the Villa game, he single handed gave us 3 goals - 1FK, 1 PK and 1 goal of his own.In the game against Chelsea(2nd leg), he was a late substitute(IIRC), he was the one providing cross for the 4th goal.

He might not be the greatest left winger in premier league but I have to say that he is one of the best.
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Yes, Riera is decent.
It may not be Tevez on the left. It could be Barry.

I think Tevez is overall a better player that can play the position of Torres and Gerrard.


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QUOTE(madmoz @ May 22 2009, 11:55 AM)
doesn't he play in rooney's position? hence no playing time? Seldom watch the other team in red nowadays.

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and having kuyt and tevez on Liverpool's flanks would be the way forward?

----------- Torres -----------

Tevez --- Gerrard ---  Kuyt

methinks not. but since Alonso's the one who seems to be expendable, perhaps this is indeed what Rafa has in mind sad.gif No need to have a superb 'quarterback' pinging long range passes to the wings if your wingers aren't pacy (or even real wingers to start with sad.gif)
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Somewhat agree with you madz. Despite Tevez's quality, i too prefer us having another kind of AM in the left flank. Thats why Riera when in top form is a very decent player for us. He's got good height and a good touch, it complements Alonso long passing range as he's able to bring down and play on Alonso long passes. Not having real wingers is not the really an issue since the 4-2-3-1 formation utilizes the fullbacks as wingers, and the front 3 are more attacking mids supporting Torres. I think having strong fullbacks is the key to maximizing Alonso's full capabilities. Insua looks like the type that will be able to bomb the flank for us, and thats probably why Rafa went on to get Dossena and now possibly Johnson. Have a look at the video below, imagine if we had a fully grown Insua and Alves down the flanks receiving those passes from Alonso
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anyone else notice that insua are among the ones who bombs down to the opposition's side during counter attacks from clearance of opposition's corners joining torres gerrard and kuyt in the last few games he was playing?

Though he may not be the one to receive the pass nor be part of counter attack quick passes, he made the run so that the opposition has 1 extra man to mark. He's gonna be awesome.

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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ May 22 2009, 02:28 PM)
anyone else notice that insua are among the ones who bombs down to the opposition's side during counter attacks from clearance of opposition's corners joining torres gerrard and kuyt in the last few games he was playing?

Though he may not be the one to receive the pass nor be part of counter attack quick passes, he made the run so that the opposition has 1 extra man to mark. He's gonna be awesome.

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typical formations la...guys like riera / babel cut in to give more support to strikers...then the backs like insua or arby push up to give cover on the wings...
too bad dossena has no place already sad.gif
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Fair point. But Kuyt lately has proven to be a decent target man when he plays in the absence of Torres. A target man is only as useful as the attacking players supporting him. I dont mind Tevez as you said he has all the attributes that makes him a Rafa-esque type of player. Huge engine, persistent and a winner. Silva is a risk, but it could go down either way cant it ? He can be either devastating or a failure. Im just at the moment warming to the idea of him being our no 7; the missing link whose jersey still collecting dusts in the dressing room. Kuyt can hold his own upfront, he's stronger than he seems and worth reminding ourselves that he is a striker by nature. In the absence of Torres, imagine him getting the support of Silva, Gerrard and Benny behind him. 3 silky creative dynamic attacking mids marauding across the pitch feeding from and off him ... and that is without Torres on the pitch mind you.
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Agreed, the combination of Silva, Gerrard & Benny makes one salivate. drool.gif However, do you think Kuyt would still perform as good when against the likes of Stoke etc, which is our main problem for the past 2 seasons. Perhaps it's my preference to see a striker who could take on defenders but I do hope we get a backup striker should we sign Silva. When all is said and done though, I would be excited if either Tevez or Silva is signed. thumbup.gif

Your comments on the fullbacks are spot on too, reckon Insua & the addition of Glen Johnson would be our key improvements next season... where Dossena & Degen has failed (Degen even failing to try. laugh.gif ).

As for Lucas & Babel, I think them missing a proper pre-season with the team has some to do with their form. Some players especially young ones need them to get fit and gel with the team. Remember, Mascherano had a slow start to his season too but an off-form Masch still bites.

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This is it...I hang this on my wall

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eh lucas damn poyo ah!
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this is what i think....now Gerrard position was supporting Torres in the upfront...we just add Tevez and this two player will assist Torres......we just need time to make Tevez and Torres gel together...

but i never see Tevez be in that position in Manu...so how? Rafa will change his role like what he did to Kuyt? hmmm....

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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ May 22 2009, 02:55 PM)
Agreed, the combination of Silva, Gerrard & Benny makes one salivate. drool.gif However, do you think Kuyt would still perform as good when against the likes of Stoke etc, which is our main problem for the past 2 seasons. Perhaps it's my preference to see a striker who could take on defenders but I do hope we get a backup striker should we sign Silva. When all is said and done though, I would be excited if either Tevez or Silva is signed. thumbup.gif

Your comments on the fullbacks are spot on too, reckon Insua & the addition of Glen Johnson would be our key improvements next season... where Dossena & Degen has failed (Degen even failing to try. laugh.gif ).

As for Lucas & Babel, I think them missing a proper pre-season with the team has some to do with their form. Some players especially young ones need them to get fit and gel with the team. Remember, Mascherano had a slow start to his season too but an off-form Masch still bites.
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I think Kuyt does have weaknesses, mainly pace and flair to get past players. But he compensate it by being a busy bee, always pressing the oppositions - giving them no room to either think or act. If he and the team can play as good as they have in the last 9 league games, they can pretty much beat anyone, Stoke included. Fulham are more organized than Stoke yet we were able to beat them - albeit a last minute goal. But the point is, this team has shown that it has the ability to beat all sorts of teams; big or small, defensive or attacking teams. And we did it without having an official No 10 and No 7 in the team, and half the time missing either Gerrard or Torres. Its crazy to think how far we've gone this season given that majority of the time, the team wasnt even playing at its full capacity or strength.

And as you said, we started off the season undermanned. Both Lucas and Masc didnt even get to train with the team and needed some rest before joining the team. Babel came back injured which further delayed his involvement with the team. Agger too wasnt fully fit until the season was wrapping up.

This upcoming transfer window is going to be the most important window in LFC history and Rafa's career. He needs to ensure we have our depth sorted, which will consequently dictates his ability in keeping both Gerrard and Torres fit - he's going to have to rotate to avoid over-using them so our depth needs to allow that. And acquiring that missing no 7.
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Papers: Alonso set for Anfield farewell on Sunday

Xabi Alonso will play his final game for Liverpool as Rafa Benitez looks to offload the Spanish international to raise transfer funds this summer, according to a report.

The Daily Express claims Benitez will accept a large bid from Real Madrid and let Alonso, who is currently the fans’ player of the year, go. Paul Joyce writes:

A belated deal for Aston Villa star Barry has been secretly set up, while Benitez is also ready to seal a £10million move for Portsmouth right-back Glen Johnson, who has been on his wanted list for some time. Benitez is also interested in unsettled Manchester United striker Carlos Tevez and Valencia’s David Silva.

But before you get all worried, this is probably just the rags way causing sensational headlines and profiting from the wildest of rumours. Besides, a Liverpool spokesman last night reassured supporters, “There has been no contact from anyone and Alonso is not for sale.”

The Independent - a somewhat a more respectable source that the Daily Express however also mentions Alonso’s links with a big money move to the Spanish capital. Paul Walker writes:

Xabi Alonso is being linked with a £22m move to Real Madrid, while Ryan Babel could also be sold. Striker Andriy Voronin is also expected to be moved on.

On the recent speculation linking the Reds with a move for Argentine striker Carlos Tevez, whose loan deal at Manchester Utd runs out at the end of this season, Walker writes:

The club say they have not made a bid to the player’s third-party owners. But Benitez is known to be keen to pair Tevez again with his compatriot Javier Mascherano, the pair having joined West Ham together in August 2006.

Sany Macaskill of The Telegraph says Aston Villa are ready to splash the cash to prevent their captain Gareth Barry from making a move to Liverpool this summer.

Initial reports have suggested that Villa are prepared to offer Barry a weekly salary of around £75,000 if he commits himself beyond the one year that he has remaining on his contract.

In the same back pages, Rory Smith has a report on Benitez’s best and worst signings since he arrived at the club in the summer of 2004. To cut a long story short, the best five are (fairly obviously) Fernando Torres, Xabi Alonso, Pepe Reina, Javier Mascherano and Luis Garcia (pictured). The five flops are Robbie Keane, Jermaine Pennant, Fernando Morientes, Andrea Dossena, and somewhat harshly in my opinion, Ryan Babel.

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Balague: Alonso available but no deal with Real Madrid

Guillem Balague says the reports from Spain that claim a £23million deal has been agreed between Liverpool and Real Madrid are not true.

The Spanish football pundit is in the loop with most things so it's good to hear him denying the reported deal. However Balague - a close friend of Rafa Benitez - admits that Alonso is available.

Balague said: "Yes, it is true that Alonso is a target for Florentino Perez – the favourite candidate to win this summer's elections at the Bernabeu – and yes, it is also true that Alonso has a price.

"However, contrary to some reports that have surfaced recently, Xabi Alonso has not signed a pre-contract agreement with Florentino Perez – nor has he reached any kind of deal with the candidate. Nor have Alonso's representatives held talks with Rafa Benitez to discuss a move.

"Any talk of a deal being done comes very much from the Florentino Perez camp, but at this moment in time, this talk has not manifest itself in action."

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For those fancy Insua, watch this.
Definitely worth a starting place comes next season, what a great young attacking left back we have.
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Cheers for the vid. He's gonna be massive player for us. That Alonso video i posted a page back shows how much a better player Insua is than Warnock. Warnock, looks hesitant, even reluctant to attack space in front him - even when there seems acre of space. Insua, on the contrary looks like a bull, he attacks space with pace and conviction. Love the way he outpaced Sagna by the touchline and whipped one in his face. I also noticed that Insua doesnt tackle much, he seems to prefer to simply neg the ball away from opponents like Lucas does. This to me suggests that he has good positional sense as he never really required to chase down and make a tackle. Its a good skill this, because it means he'll be able to make use of the ball right away instead of being on the ground as its often is when you make a tackle. He doesnt hesitate like Dossena does by backing away when defending, he just negs it away as soon as he's in range. Another bit i like about him is his crossing ability, he's able to whip a cross even when the ball is square to him. Most players tends to make a distance and take the ball from the outside. He's a really tidy skilful player, has a good sense of positioning, has pace to get himself out of trouble and support attacks. We really do have a gem in our team.
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Napoli Reject Liverpool’s €22m Bid For Ezequiel Lavezzi

According to La Gazzetta dello Sport, Napoli president Aurelio De Laurentiis has rebuffed a €22 million bid from Premier League giants Liverpool for Argentine star Ezequiel Lavezzi.

The 24-year-old has been frequently associated with a move away from the San Paolo in recent weeks, with the Italian press suggesting that his agent, Alejandro Manzoni, has been in talks with Juventus.

It is claimed the Vesuviani were approached by an unnamed emissary on behalf of the Merseyside outfit, however, De Laurentiis said no to the initial bid.

Things could change at the start of next week, though. Manzoni is reportedly arranging a direct meeting between the two clubs for Monday.

Lavezzi is tied to the Campani until 2013 but there have been reports his representatives will seek a considerable pay rise at the end of the season.

The former San Lorenzo man, who has netted seven goals in 28 league appearances this season, currently earns €1.3m per season at the San Paolo. Liverpool are allegedly prepared to offer him a salary of €4m to lure him to Anfield.

Lavezzi has been sidelined with a muscular problem since Napoli’s 1-0 win over Inter last month but he could be back in action against Catania this weekend.
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looks like alonso is gonna leave for real!
this is the first time i feel so fck on rafa's decision!
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i think the overall sentiment here is we dont want alonso to leave...i mean even my manc fren said that he admired alonso's passing and would like such player in manutd...

but back to the point...i think he should be in our team nxt season, coz without him we havnt got anyone who would play the dangerous, penetrating diagonals....gerrard's specialty in the past but now that he's to occupied upfront, we need xabi around....

lucas is good in keeping the ball rolling passing it to other players, but ive yet to see him play 1st time long balls, and those dangerous diagonals to the wingers / fullbacks....

but if lucas grows much into alonso's mould nxt season, i hav no qualms in parting with alonso...coz i thnik he would fetch a really good price in the market....
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For those fancy Insua, watch this.
Definitely worth a starting place comes next season, what a great young attacking left back we have.
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alonso leaving?
madmoz, when u wanna buy ur man city jersey?
i tumpang with u go buy arsenal jersey.
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Rafa Benitez has rejected reports that Xabi Alonso could be set to leave Liverpool at the end of the season.

The Spain international came close to exiting Anfield last summer as Benitez looked to raise funds to finance the purchase of Aston Villa's Gareth Barry.

Alonso and Barry eventually remained with their existing employers, but the Reds ace has now been linked with a possible move to Real Madrid.

Real presidential candidate Florentino Perez is believed to be keen on signing the former Real Sociedad ace, with reports suggesting Benitez could again look to cash in.

But the Liverpool boss, who pulled out of his weekly press conference at short notice, has now moved to quell the speculation.

He told the club's official website: "It's very clear, Xabi has three years left and we do not want to sell him."

Benitez has also hit out at frenzied transfer speculation around the club, which include suggestions of a big-money move for Manchester United striker Carlos Tevez.

He said: "When you know your targets then you read things you can say, 'they have no idea'.

"I don't waste too much time on this. We have already had about 90 Spanish players linked with us. Today there were three names we do not even know.

"We have some money, not big money. But for me now it is not about how much, but how good they are for us."

Assistant manager Sammy Lee took Benitez's place in front of reporters and backed up the manager's words on Alonso.

He said: "The talk about Alonso (going to Real Madrid) is pure speculation. You cannot prevent talk.

"But we always want to keep the spine of the team, our very best players. You can't stop speculation, but we want to keep the core of our squad, the best players, here.

"New players will be brought in. You always want to keep improving on the field compared to what we have done this season.

"There is a platform now to go forward and hopefully win the title, but we have to get the best out of this squad to do it."
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Rafa Benitez Promises That Liverpool Won't Sell Xabi Alonso

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Liverpool will not sell Xabi Alonso this summer, manager Rafa Benitez has assured supporters today, as rumours about the classy midfielder's future refuse to dissipate.

The Basque has been one of Liverpool's outstanding performers this campaign, but continues to be linked with a move away from Merseyside, with Juventus touted as a likely destination. There were also reports earlier in the campaign of a rift between Benitez and Alonso, although that seems to have faded into the background somewhat.

The Reds manager told the club's official website today, "It's very clear - Xabi has three years left and we do not want to sell him."

Alonso has made 46 appearances for the club this season, scoring five goals, with his creativity and perceptive passing helping drive on the more high-profile attacking talents the team possesses.

Meanwhile, one man who will definitely be leaving Anfield in the close season is iconic Finnish defender Sami Hyypia, who is departing for Bundesliga outfit Bayer Leverkusen. Benitez was able to confirm that the centre-back would be involved at some stage against Tottenham Hotspur in the Reds' concluding Premier League fixture on Sunday.

"I can guarantee he'll be in the squad," Benitez added.

"Everything is positive when you talk about Sami, so he'll get a great reception."

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alonso 60+ yards goal was awesome

better than some 40 yard goal... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Jcsy @ May 23 2009, 01:28 AM)
alonso 60+ yards goal was awesome

better than some 40 yard goal... tongue.gif
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i read it somewhere tat MON would rather keep barry for another season n let him go for free... so isit possible for lfc to snatch him up? MON can do nothing if barry submit a transfer request rite? icon_idea.gif

10m?? 15m pound bid for g. johnson already made, no? unsure.gif doubt this source, unreliable enough this article

ONLY 22m for alonso? Not good enough for quality player like him... thank god benitez cleared the air over his statement... alonso is one of the key player for us to challenge the league title! flex.gif
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alonso 60+ yards goal was awesome

better than some 40 yard goal...


honestly, it was awesome and better than some 40 yard goal for sure, even though the GK slipped biggrin.gif

but still, i think this 1 was the best and awesome.. rclxms.gif

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is that abel xavier? woot

Added on May 23, 2009, 4:56 amis the fa youth cup final playing now?..no live..or am i late? sad.gif

Added on May 23, 2009, 5:06 amok gg..arsenal 4 - 1 liverpool

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i read it somewhere tat MON would rather keep barry for another season n let him go for free... so isit possible for lfc to snatch him up? MON can do nothing if barry submit a transfer request rite? icon_idea.gif

10m?? 15m pound bid for g. johnson already made, no?  unsure.gif doubt this source, unreliable enough this article

ONLY 22m for alonso? Not good enough for quality player like him... thank god benitez cleared the air over his statement... alonso is one of the key player for us to challenge the league title! flex.gif
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No...Is Barry cant do anything even if he submit transfer request.MON can let him rot in the bench if he want.

Tat's the reason why I think Rafa wanna keep Alonso...because barry aint coming...
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we still have very limited quantities of the Lower Grandstand tickets at RM215 each.
apparently the tickets that are for sale over here are all on the opposite side of pitch across grandstand.

QUOTE(choy89 @ May 23 2009, 03:45 AM)
honestly, it was awesome and better than some 40 yard goal for sure, even though the GK slipped biggrin.gif

but still, i think this 1 was the best and awesome.. rclxms.gif

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aiyah, that one is picking on nubs.

here, 80m goal tongue.gif


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No...Is Barry cant do anything even if he submit transfer request.MON can let him rot in the bench if he want.

Tat's the reason why I think Rafa wanna keep Alonso...because barry aint coming...
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all smokescreens la.
rafa is keeping alonso cos hes going to sell lucas rclxm9.gif

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On Hyypia

Rafa Benitez:
I think Liverpool are losing a legend.For years he has been so good. He has scored important goals and has been very, very good in defence. Clearly we are losing an important player.

Sammy Lee:
"He is a terrific lad, a terrific person and a terrific pro, and we will all be sorry to see him go,"

"It will be emotional for him - he is an emotional guy through that cool exterior. It will be difficult for him but he goes with our best wishes."

Stevie G:
"It's difficult to put into words. He's been fantastic for us - a colossus.He certainly deserves legendary status and he's definitely one of the best players I've ever played with. They're the biggest compliments I can pay Sami."

King Dalglish
"He's a role model, an outstanding professional and will be a big loss. He's never, ever let Liverpool down,""

He's conducted himself superbly through good times and bad times at Liverpool, the measure of the man being when he lost the captaincy to Steven Gerrard.

"Lesser men would have chucked it and left. He stood shoulder to shoulder with Steven and between them and other outstanding players they've driven us on to some great days and nights."

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"For me he's a top professional, one of the best I have ever met,"Sami is also a good human being and has a good personality. I will miss him but I'm sure he will be in touch with us and Liverpool.

"It's a great achievement to play 10 years at a special club like Liverpool, especially for a foreign player, and I have a lot of respect for him.

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Hey guys,is Alonso going to leave liverpool for real madrid?
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Latest rumor now is that Xabi's agent is already brokering a deal with Real. Not the club, but his agent Ibanez.
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Latest rumor now is that Xabi's agent is already brokering a deal with Real. Not the club, but his agent Ibanez.
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dont worry, mr long passer will definitely stay for next season..its really hard to imagine that rafa want to sell him and want to win the league for next season..
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honestly, it was awesome and better than some 40 yard goal for sure, even though the GK slipped biggrin.gif

but still, i think this 1 was the best and awesome.. rclxms.gif

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striking into an empty net is better? hmmm, at least not to me....
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striking into an empty net is better? hmmm, at least not to me....
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mehh he got lucky. i scored a similar goal last week..and i'm sure u can too! just kiddin. laugh.gif
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okay this one then?  tongue.gif


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Strike as good as /even better than Beckham's...

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Rafa Benitez has sent a private letter to Sir Alex Ferguson after the Manchester United manager's grandson was badly injured in a car crash.

10-year-old Charlie Ferguson and his mum Nadine, ex-wife of Ferguson's son Darren, was also hurt earlier this month. The youngster had to undergo a six-hour operation and is currently in Alder Hey hospital.

A Liverpool FC source said: "There is an intense football rivalry between them, but that's all it is - a football rivalry. Everything that has been said has been designed to gain an edge on the pitch.

"But when it comes to matters like this, Rafa is a family man who understands exactly what Sir Alex is going through. He wants to help any way he can.

"Rafa knows how difficult it must be, and he feels for a fellow manager who he respects as a person and a family man himself. Rafa wanted Sir Alex to know that if he or his family needed anything while the youngster was in Liverpool, they only had to ask."

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i doubt dey will ever publish this news..all they do is to condemn our manager
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