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aressandro10
post Oct 25 2010, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Oct 24 2010, 04:54 PM)
True but the term  glory hunter to me suggests repetition. If you've killed someone, that's a fact that will forever remain true regardless of time. You may support a team because the were winning but it doesn't mean you will always be supporting a winning team. Glory to me suggest winning titles and if you are a hunter, you will always be looking to get behind a club winning titles, even if it isnt the same one. I know one such example. Started off as a Liverpool, switched to Man Utd and now he supports Chelsea.

Regardless we've had this debat before and it's clear we agree to disagree so I'll leave it there.
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actually in that post i was more referring to the English 101 discussion...tongue.gif

yeah we already had a few rounds... we can agree to disagree...
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post Oct 25 2010, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Oct 25 2010, 03:27 PM)
actually in that post i was more referring to the English 101 discussion...tongue.gif
To be honest I had also thought of the murderer example but hoped to slip it by you. To obvious for someone as wily as you it seems smile.gif
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post Oct 25 2010, 04:21 PM

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i would like to add that for me, glory-hunters not also confined to the glory if winning cups and league only...

it can also be used to defined someone who associate themselves with clubs who odds on to win games most of the times. Being a favorite is also a 'glory' craved by glory hunters.

And by that definition i can also add Manchester City and Arsenal to the gloryhunter list eventhough they dont win much.

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post Oct 29 2010, 07:42 PM

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Should be strictly defined as anybody
who became a supporter by jumping on the Bandwagon!
I have seen them all. Our local lads, be it our former schoolmates, friends, colleagues
In the late 60's
In the 70's, 80's 90's and the turn of the century.
i.e. 'joining' a club for the parade.


As tho' the glory will rub on them. Its just like wearing or possessing a brand item that they think will made them a better person, in this case a better footballer (some of them are really kayus doh.gif ) a knowledgable football tactician etc.

I have a great laugh every now & then when I think of most of my glory hunting mates (thankfully I was never one of them).

Me I was a Merdeka Tournament fan starting from listening over Redifusion. Yeah Uncle is that old.



Those halcyon days biggrin.gif


Seriously does it matter?


The only criteria for me is if you are a genuine footballer or fan is that
1 You must make every effort to be a better & knowledgeable football fan
2. Knowing the game and if possible practice and make every effort to improve on your game in the field
3. Then you will be able to articulate instead of making inane and ill-informed posts or comments such as a lot of drivel which I come across here in this forum and elsewhere. Does the phrase Prawn Sandwich comes to mind.


Fortunately for me I was lucky in not being a football ethnocentric. On & off the field, overseas in a North America multicultural milieu, I have associated or played with or against folks from Africa & Europeans ( for one reason or another the Bosnians think highly of us Malaysians) & South Americas. mind you some of them were semi-pros or pros in their home country.

Yes that does make me a better informed & knowledgeable footie!

Thats why I don't consider myself as a glory hunter.
You see as an EPL fan it thrilled me to see Sun Jihai became the first Chinese Player to score in the EPL.

Yes thats why I consider Maradona as the Greatest Footballer!

Come Oct 30th everyone of us I trust will wish him a Happy 50th. Birthday!
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post Oct 29 2010, 08:06 PM

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I'm on the Bandwagon...i'm not born Chelsea...but I support them 100%..
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post Oct 29 2010, 08:07 PM

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to prove that im not a glory hunter, last year MU didnt win premier league, yet i still support them? Macam ni boleh ker?
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post Oct 30 2010, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Oct 29 2010, 08:07 PM)
to prove that im not a glory hunter, last year MU didnt win premier league, yet i still support them? Macam ni boleh ker?
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Aiyoo, only 1 season nia, Arsenal not Champion for how many seasons? tongue.gif

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post Oct 30 2010, 03:00 PM

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this glory hunter things is a stupid things now...

so if let say Everton win EPL this season..and the next 12 seasons...most of our kids cant support them within that 13 seasons..because they will be lebel as Glory Hunter...a fan is a fan...sometimes we dont need to show off just for some1 to acknowledge us a a true fans...

people who lebel themself as true fans...just afraid that some1 might say to him that he is not a fan...just believe in yourself...I'm Chelsea fans..and i'm also Bayern fans...
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post Oct 30 2010, 04:58 PM

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No it's stupid because you've been outed massively. Besides, judging by your response you don't really have a grasp of what a glory hunter is. If Chelski and Bayern play each other just sit back and enjoy??? Puh-lease... You're an embarassment to the proper Chelski and bayern fans for them to have you associated with their clubs. The bandwagoners, one who has no affinity towards the clubs they are supposedly a fan of.
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Mehhh Glory Hunters are just people that don't know anything but the club after they support the club because they just want to fit in, that's the definition for me... I still support Liverpool even though they're at the relegation zone, YNWA.
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post Oct 31 2010, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(air_mood @ Oct 30 2010, 05:58 PM)
No it's stupid because you've been outed massively. Besides, judging by your response you don't really have a grasp of what a glory hunter is. If Chelski and Bayern play each other just sit back and enjoy??? Puh-lease... You're an embarassment to the proper Chelski and bayern fans for them to have you associated with their clubs. The bandwagoners, one who has no affinity towards the clubs they are supposedly a fan of.
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rclxms.gif Nice post...thank for the wake up call...i dont know that we must have only one club per person...I'm have a very good moment with Bayern...you will never understand...cuz you from the best club in the whole wide world... blush.gif Chelsea is a new for me compared to Bayern..at least i'm a fans before Roman era...so glory hunter for Chelsea?? nope..we not as good as MUFC at that time..but we were a passionate group of fans...still passionate.....i'm starting to fall for Chelsea because of 2000-2001 Defensive Lineup...Le Saux,Desaily,Terry,Melchoit... smile.gif
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post Oct 31 2010, 03:09 AM

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Oct 31 2010, 12:34 AM)
rclxms.gif Nice post...thank for the wake up call...i dont know that we must have only one club per person...I'm have a very good moment with Bayern...you will never understand...cuz you from the best club in the whole wide world... blush.gif Chelsea is a new for me compared to Bayern..at least i'm a fans before Roman era...so glory hunter for Chelsea?? nope..we not as good as MUFC at that time..but we were a passionate group of fans...still passionate.....i'm starting to fall for Chelsea because of 2000-2001 Defensive Lineup...Le Saux,Desaily,Terry,Melchoit... smile.gif
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Try again. You don't qualify as a fan of Chelski. Because you're not willing to back the supposed team you're a fan of when they're playing Bayern. So...try again.

Passionate?? Pfftttt....a supposed passionate fan who won't back his team to win a game...what has the world come to eh?? If you're a supposed fan, you won't even hesitate to say that you'd want Chelski to win whenever they play a game. The 'sit back and enjoy' excuse...doesn't fly.

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post Oct 31 2010, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(esca_flo @ Oct 31 2010, 10:29 AM)
Odd of winning high ? Not against wolves it seems. Try agai... Oh nvm
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try ask the bookmakers for the match Wolverhamtom vs Manchester City..who is odd on to win the game?

eventhough machester city lose, they still favourite to win other games so their 'gloryhunter' fans will still feed on that.. this of course apply less to fans pre sheikh money era..

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QUOTE(air_mood @ Oct 31 2010, 04:09 AM)
Try again. You don't qualify as a fan of Chelski. Because you're not willing to back the supposed team you're a fan of when they're playing Bayern. So...try again.

Passionate?? Pfftttt....a supposed passionate fan who won't back his team to win a game...what has the world come to eh?? If you're a supposed fan, you won't even hesitate to say that you'd want Chelski to win whenever they play a game. The 'sit back and enjoy' excuse...doesn't fly.
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Wtver you say..i'm might not be a true fans or whatever the tittle you usually called..but i'm just a fan..that all i want to say...nothing can change the fact that i'm a fan of two football clubs...

Rarely happened..Chelsea vs Bayern...if that happen in the future...i'm stick to neutral stance..

Sit back and enjoy the game...doest mean that i dont want them to win...???



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post Oct 31 2010, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Oct 31 2010, 07:17 PM)
Wtver you say..i'm might not be a true fans or whatever the tittle you usually called..but i'm just a fan..that all i want to say...nothing can change the fact that i'm a fan of two football clubs...

Rarely happened..Chelsea vs Bayern...if that happen in the future...i'm stick to neutral stance..

Sit back and enjoy the game...doest mean that i dont want them to win...???
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Here comes the "whatever you say" shit again. Just proves how much you disregard others opinion on you. Being ignorant doesn't make you right. Funny you should mention yourself not supporting the "best" club in the world namely Manchester United (well that is if I am not wrong about my assumption by your posts), Bayern Munich was having some of the most marvelous times before. Well, its not comparable to the type of success Real Madrid was having, but those times where Bayern Munich was as lethal as Juventus and Real Madrid by having a near full Germany squad in their team. Were you sulking on the glory of the club too before this??

As for your preaches about being good supporting two clubs at once and enjoy the game as neutral when both the club meet, that is utter nonsense. You would probably just sulk either one success when you are chanting to others.


Sit back and enjoy. Hmm, i wonder what was it like when Inter Milan won Bayern Munich last season. Were you self-knee jerking in your mind when Milito scored the goal? Or were you sitting back and enjoyed Milito's skills. And by that, i meant really, a NEUTRAL fan would have enjoyed it, Milito tearing the Munich defense.
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Very nice of him to admit he's not a fan. A joke and has been massively outed here.
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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Oct 31 2010, 11:21 PM)
Here comes the "whatever you say" shit again. Just proves how much you disregard others opinion on you. Being ignorant doesn't make you right. Funny you should mention yourself not supporting the "best" club in the world namely Manchester United (well that is if I am not wrong about my assumption by your posts), Bayern Munich was having some of the most marvelous times before. Well, its not comparable to the type of success Real Madrid was having, but those times where Bayern Munich was as lethal as Juventus and Real Madrid by having a near full Germany squad in their team. Were you sulking on the glory of the club too before this??

As for your preaches about being good supporting two clubs at once and enjoy the game as neutral when both the club meet, that is utter nonsense. You would probably just sulk either one success when you are chanting to others.
Sit back and enjoy. Hmm, i wonder what was it like when Inter Milan won Bayern Munich last season. Were you self-knee jerking in your mind when Milito scored the goal? Or were you sitting back and enjoyed Milito's skills. And by that, i meant really, a NEUTRAL fan would have enjoyed it, Milito tearing the Munich defense.
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whatever you say because he judge me..and i dont want to comment on others opinion..

yes..no doubt...be realistic IcyDarling...we know our level...we know all the major club levels...the bold part..i dont get it..mind to explain? second bold...do you mind reading the previous post before post that part?? i'm trying my best not be bias ( and did i ever say that it is easy??? nope...it is very hard sometimes you just hope they never meet each others)..IF Bayern against Chelsea...when milito scored..i'm 'fking' kick a chair at mamak stall...happpy?? after that i need to watch fball somewhere else..


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The feck are you talking about?? You're barely making any sense here. It's been clearly established that you're no fan. So seriously stop embarassing yourself.

You, not willing to back your supposed team when they play another team, enough to deduce that you're no fan of that supposed team you seem to declare being a fan of. It's as simple as that. A fan wouldn't even hesitate to say who he wants to win when his team play another one. This very idea, seems to be very had to get thru your thick skull.

You are no fan...simple really. Go on that bandwagon which you proudly declare yourself to be on few days earlier.
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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Nov 1 2010, 03:36 PM)
whatever you say because he judge me..and i dont want to comment on others opinion..

yes..no doubt...be realistic IcyDarling...we know our level...we know all the major club levels...the bold part..i dont get it..mind to explain? second bold...do you mind reading the previous post before post that part?? i'm trying my best not be bias ( and did i ever say that it is easy??? nope...it is very hard sometimes you just hope they never meet each others)..IF Bayern against Chelsea...when milito scored..i'm 'fking' kick a chair at mamak stall...happpy?? after that i need to watch fball somewhere else..
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because he judge you, you should at least take some time to think of why others would say that. Tsunami doesn't happen just like that, it happens after some earth cracks beneath the sea. Same goes to you, when someone judge you, at least make the effort to consider, rather than saying whatever you say which implies that you don't care about others. To be honest, ask yourself, do you really not care what people say of you? Are you able to live in the world by yourself and not take others in account? Instead of ignoring the comment, how about you answer it, at least make an effort to defend yourself, or if you realise that you are on the black side of the sheet, try to change yourself.

Bayern Munich was one of the contenders in Europe all this time. Even at those time Manchester United wasn't too much of a threat in European football. Bayern was one of the team that could match Juventus and Real Madrid at those times. So, I'm just saying that you too were supporting one of the best team which makes you a ditto of Manchester United fans at this period.

You kept mentioning yourself being a football fans who sit back and enjoy the game. The fact is, Milito's goal was awesome. The way he faked the defender was just pure skills. Anyone who enjoys football would have had an orgasm. I watched the game with my friends who are fans of Bayern Munich. Obviously, i was rooting for Inter Milan because Bayern Munich knocked United out of Champions League. But when Milito scored, when I just about to pull out of speech of sinister towards them, they stood up and clapped, and praised Milito. Obviously, they were football players too, not professionally but still football players. And I'm just mentioning the last part for fun. Of course they were sad when Munich succumbed to Inter Milan, but still that match was just great.

And I have took the effort to find your previous posts and none of them mentioned you tried to be not bias. I only could spot the post where you mentioned you just sit back and enjoyed football. How does kicking the chair match "sit back and enjoyed football"?

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