To prove that ur not a glory hunter altho ur supporting a team with huge glory, u'll continue to support that team even tho its performing badly.. eg LFC

eg if u say ur a LFC fan then u shouldn't say "I don't wanna support LFC if they still bottom of the league.."

nonono, wan support LFC must come from Merseyside..If not, surely a glory hunter!

Lol cam tu I have to support Selangor dy..

Malaysian = All glory hunter?? nonsenses...The clubs status as worldwide club is enough to attract worldwide fans...If KEEP changing teams that won something then you are the glory hunter...because you hunt for the glory...if you stick to the team rise or fall no matter if the team is big or small...win alot of trophies or not...you are not glory hunter...you are the loyal fans...

Hmm I can understand that they'd be glory hunters if the closest team to you and your friends is, say, Birmingham. But Arsenal, they are also a very successful team so maybe, not so much a glory hunter?

I for one am a glory hunter I guess, since Manchester United have been doing really well for the pass 20 years or so. Started supporting them when I was about 10 and although Blackburn (I think) won the league, MU were still 2nd. And back then our local channels had a lot of coverage on the red devils

But say if they were to get relegated to Coca Cola, then 2nd division and maybe 3rd too, and if I were to still support them, would you still call me a glory hunter?

Lol ya,who the **** cares?It won't affect anyone

What this rubbish all about? I mean people can be what they want, glory hunter or not it's the football what's important.

glory hunters for me is more like

1) changing team they support when their team doesnt get top 4 or doesnt win anything or doesnt perform well - this is obvious

2) glory hunters that not so obvious is start (from knowing nothing ) and supporting a team cos they won something that time (for instance: italy won world cup 2006, i support italy la!)

number 2 will end up being number 1, if for instance that italy fans support spain this year cos spain won the world cup



num 2 is still bearable cos they prob will end up being a passionate fan, but num 1 is just a big lalang and not a true fan for me

This post has been edited by apanzhafran: Oct 24 2010, 03:47 AM

Agree...if they stick to one...who are we to judge them...even if the become lalang...

Lol its just like migrating u see.. when u 1st migrate to another country, u still haven't get ur PR, then ur considered glory hunter, but after years and satisfying the condition(ie getting to know ur team well enuf) then u get ur PR(ie no more glory hunter)

the basis of football indurstry in its pure form is you must support the team in your locality... if everone only support the teams that is 'exposed' by media to them.. or only the winning ones... then the Epl would only consist of 4 teams....

by right everyone is born or grew up with with one locality team. When they ignore their locality team and choose to support a random team from a far away land that happens to win a lot and exposed intensivly in the media, and have more riches, more star players, with better built physique, and aesthetically good moving swagger........then that is already one act of gloryhunting....

for me...if he start to support with the success club...he is a glory hunter... if the club he support continue to be comparatively succesfull for the next 20 years meaning winning cups and generally failed to drop below to 4/5 position in the league... you still fail to prove you are not a gloryhunter... meaning you still are..

and you can also be loyal and passionated to the club you support, contributing to their economy by watching them on tv and buying their product and all.... and be a gloryhunter at the same time.. the definition for passionate/loyal suporter and gloryhunter does not conflict..

wht you cannot be is the club's REAL supporter.... that is only reserved for the peole in the clubs's localitiy.... because the club bear the name and symbol of who they are...


and dont be too defensive of this gloryhunting term... if you support Manchester United intensively since you were 9, just accept that you are a gloryhunter and just continue to support them as you like... no one can sue you.. just because a Manchester club is just a surrogate club for you doesnt mean you cant support it... just out of courtesy, dont be too hard on other gloryhunters because you are also one yourself...

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Added on October 24, 2010, 10:50 ami dont think LFC is a good example.... they are battling relegation right now which is a good point... but it is still seemingly only a temporary puddle... after supporting a club for some time, no one can easily change the club they support just due to one or two season on the downside..

if only Liverpool continue to fight from relegation for a further 4-5 years or better if the get relegated proper, then only liverpool supporters have a great chance to seperate the bigger gloryhunters from the less gloryhunters...

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Oct 24 2010, 10:50 AM

My team relegated also still i woke up late @ night / morning just to watched them play LIVE over the TV

Damn proud to be a Toon Army, no matter what other people say about my beloved team...

Though i prefer to watch Arsenal play though

not true to all cases. IF someone murders someone, he is automatically deemed a murderer eventhough he do not renew his murdering activity every 2-3 years...

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Added on October 24, 2010, 1:43 pmheyy... gloryhunters can also support liverpoooll what... who can sue them?

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Oct 24 2010, 01:43 PM

True but the term glory hunter to me suggests repetition. If you've killed someone, that's a fact that will forever remain true regardless of time. You may support a team because the were winning but it doesn't mean you will always be supporting a winning team. Glory to me suggest winning titles and if you are a hunter, you will always be looking to get behind a club winning titles, even if it isnt the same one. I know one such example. Started off as a Liverpool, switched to Man Utd and now he supports Chelsea.

Regardless we've had this debat before and it's clear we agree to disagree so I'll leave it there.

This post has been edited by Duke Red: Oct 24 2010, 05:00 PM

if only if all the clubs known around their own respective town...we we surrounded by the world wide status clubs...the fans at the stadium made up from all part of the world...

for me fans of newcastle who still support their team after even when they get relegated is an example of a true fan

cos some just stop supporting, IF liverpool get relegated this season(thou i doubt it) then we will see who is a true fan, and who is jus a glory hunter

This post has been edited by apanzhafran: Oct 24 2010, 08:39 PM

i feel you man, haha good times watching Fizzy pop league matches in the wee hours

Local fans no longer applies for international clubs. Without support from international fanbase, a club like real madrid can never be successful. I may admit i'm a glory hunter for supporting Arsenal which have no links whatever to me or to my country, but what about france supporters who love arsenal because of arsene or africans who follow players such as eboue and toure? So like i said before, true supporter no longer applies to local supporters only. In fact, glory hunters can also exist among londoners.

You are right. Relegation will cleanse the club of bandwagon jumpers but as disgusting as it sounds, bandwagon jumpers do spend a fair bit on merchandise. My insights tell me this because they have an inherent need to associate themselves to success. If they are sports fans, you'll likely see them in a Ferrari outfit during the F1, or a Laker jersey during an NBA game. They do however contribute to the clubs/teams coffers.

Let's face facts for a bit. Unless you were born or you've studied in a specific locale, you will likely grow to support a team you've watched often on TV. If like me, you grew up in the 80's or early 90's, your options were pretty limited. The only live programme back then was "Road to Wembley" and they most regularly featured teams like Liverpool, Man Utd, Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea, Leeds and Everton. Occasionally, you got to see teams like QPR, Notts County, Nottingham Forrest, Norwich, Coventry, Man City and Derby play. Basically, the further you got in the FA Cup, the more you were featured here. When I first started watching, there were no live 1st Division games and without the internet, I had to rely on watching dated highlight programmes. I could only support teams I've watched or heard off and thankfully, I had a friend who supported Liverpool before me. So then, how could one be expected to support say, Ipswich Town if one never got to see them play? You didn't have much choice back then. By the time we got live coverage of league games, I was already a fan of Liverpool despite having a liking for players like Neville Southall, Lee Chapman, Ian Wright, Matt Le Tissier, Gavin Peacock and Chris Waddle.

I therefore urge whoever wants to generalise and criticise all foreign fans to at least understand that exposure back in the day was pretty limited.

This post has been edited by Duke Red: Oct 25 2010, 11:30 AM

during my secondary school in the 90's, we also rely on local tv to broadbast some epl matches all thanks to dunhill ...

and those live matches normally features the big teams in epl - man united, arsenal, chelsea and liverpool ...

thats why malaysia has a lot fans from these 4 clubs ...