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tweedle
post Oct 22 2010, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(Envoy @ Oct 22 2010, 08:59 PM)
if ur saying Malaysians = glory hunters then u must be saying that all fans outside uk =glory hunter
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Pretty much

But even in UK, you have people who are glory hunters too

I am from North London, closest team to me is Arsenal, so I support Arsenal but I have friends who I grew up with that support Man United, they are glory hunters because Man U are a successful team.

Ask yourself this

Lets say you support United, why do you support them? Because you/your family are from Manchester or you can have some link to Manchester

or is it because they are a successful team?

You can come with the typical excuse that your favourite player was Cantona/Beckham/Ronaldo - whatever, its a lame excuse.

But thats just assuming you are a Man United supporter, feel free to change that for the team you support
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post Oct 22 2010, 10:30 PM

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Glory Hunter?
I can tell you 90% of the genuine fans I know started off as glory hunters. How else will you be supporting the club you are today?
People that say "I have supported club x from the day I was born" is complete bullshit really. Maybe they are that passionate for the clubs, but look at the logical point of view. When people expect serious answer, giving answers like this just doesnt cut it.

I start supporting Man Utd after the 1999 treble. You might define me as a glory hunter, but I was only 7 or 8 back then. Do you expect a 7/8 year old boy to support clubs that are on the bottom of the table or the ones that are winning everything? After years go by, my passion for the club grew bigger and bigger and soon without realize it, I became a hardcore supporter. I used to have cold feet( literally) whenever I'm watching Man Utd AND they are not winning, heck even losing possession of the ball makes me feel nervous. I always wanted Man Utd to win and win BIG. Maybe these are the traits of a glory hunter but what kind of supporter DOESN'T want his club to win every game and by a large goal margin? True die-harded fans and non glory hunter? Yeah right

EDIT : My first paragraph only applies to supporters who has no connection with the club whatsover. Generally directed for those who don't stay in the state of the club they supported in. If you were born in Arsenal, you will be supporting Arsenal.If you were born in Liverpool, you will be supporting Liverpool.If you were born in Manchester United, you will be supporting Manchester United.If you were born in Chelsea, you will be supporting Chelsea

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QUOTE(tweedle @ Oct 22 2010, 10:13 PM)
Pretty much

But even in UK, you have people who are glory hunters too

I am from North London, closest team to me is Arsenal, so I support Arsenal but I have friends who I grew up with that support Man United, they are glory hunters because Man U are a successful team.

Ask yourself this

Lets say you support United, why do you support them? Because you/your family are from Manchester or you can have some link to Manchester

or is it because they are a successful team?

You can come with the typical excuse that your favourite player was Cantona/Beckham/Ronaldo - whatever, its a lame excuse.

But thats just assuming you are a Man United supporter, feel free to change that for the team you support
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So you saying in order to support United I must be from Manchester and have family/friend/relatives from there? Seriously how flawed is that? I've been supporting United for almost 10 years now, and yes when I started support them they won the league and they were wearing red(I was a kid, and my favourite colour was red, I even support Ferrari until now because of this ffs so call me naive/glory hunting back then, heck sue me if you dont like it)..And United have gone through dry patches especially the 3 year drought when they only won the league cup and fa cup while Arsenal and Chelsea dominated the league then, not it never crossed my mind to jump ship to other teams especially Chelsea when everyone was saying they will dominate English football after the arrival of Abramovich, never..Look where I am now, my support for United is as strong as ever, even stronger I should say compared to 3 years ago as I grow older and more matured..You need a serious look at yourself mate, Arsenal were a successful team too, so you might be a hypocrite all along
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post Oct 22 2010, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(Envoy @ Oct 22 2010, 08:59 PM)
if ur saying Malaysians = glory hunters then u must be saying that all fans outside uk =glory hunter
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all fans outside uk =glory hunter nod.gif
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post Oct 22 2010, 11:06 PM

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But really,how bout the fans that support Portsmouth,Blackpool etc..what do u call them?
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when you change from a club that less success to the club that success...he will be a glory hunter...if he start to support with the success club...he is not a glory hunter...
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post Oct 22 2010, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(bigbangformula @ Oct 22 2010, 11:06 PM)
But really,how bout the fans that support Portsmouth,Blackpool etc..what do u call them?
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those people are less a glory hunter as cmpare those who supprt 'the big 4'. But mstly stlll glryhunters nonetheless

Depend n the reason why they support those teams really.. they further the reason from 'gloriness', the less yu are a glryhunter. But n the end f the day, if you support Blackpool because they are 'cooler' than your real team... the element of gloryhuntng are stlll there...


the fact that the only mnrty of UK ftball fans outsde UK supprt Portsmouth,Blackpool etc.. shows that majority of them are major glryhunters

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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Oct 22 2010, 11:25 PM)
the fact that the only mnrty of UK ftball fans outsde UK supprt Portsmouth,Blackpool etc.. shows that majority of them are major glryhunters
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post Oct 22 2010, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Oct 22 2010, 10:45 PM)
So you saying in order to support United I must be from Manchester and have family/friend/relatives from there? Seriously how flawed is that? I've been supporting United for almost 10 years now, and yes when I started support them they won the league and they were wearing red(I was a kid, and my favourite colour was red, I even support Ferrari until now because of this ffs so call me naive/glory hunting back then, heck sue me if you dont like it)..And United have gone through dry patches especially the 3 year drought when they only won the league cup and fa cup while Arsenal and Chelsea dominated the league then, not it never crossed my mind to jump ship to other teams especially Chelsea when everyone was saying they will dominate English football after the arrival of Abramovich, never..Look where I am now, my support for United is as strong as ever, even stronger I should say compared to 3 years ago as I grow older and more matured..You need a serious look at yourself mate, Arsenal were a successful team too, so you might be a hypocrite all along
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Thats my main point tho. You only started supporting United because they were winning leagues. Youre really gonna go with the lame excuse that you support them because your favourite colour is red? Be real

Youve been a fan for almost 10 years? So you started supporting 00/01 season? So the treble win 2 seasons previous and the 2 league titles the season gone, had nothing to do with it? Come on mate

Mate Ive been supporting Arsenal since 92, while we were still a big team, we wernt the biggest and regardless of our size, Arsenal is my local team. My house is 20 minutes away from Emirates and Ive been going to Highbury/Emirates since before Ian Wright was there. Ive even sat in the Spurs side of WHL to watch a North London derby, my support isnt in question cause it speaks for its self. So Im very far from a hypocrite seeing as I support my local team, I cant help that they are successful.

I dont doubt your support now but to deny that you started supporting them for any other reason then because they were the best team, is a joke and you should stop kidding yourself.

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post Oct 22 2010, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(bigbangformula @ Oct 22 2010, 09:10 PM)
For me,I'd define a glory hunter as someone who supports a team who keeps winnnig but doesn't even know the starting XI of the team..you could spot a few new ones at M.City,am sure  whistling.gif
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Mcity ? Where got glory there ... How can one hunt glory where there is none ?
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post Oct 22 2010, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(tweedle @ Oct 22 2010, 11:47 PM)
Thats my main point tho. You only started supporting United because they were winning leagues. Youre really gonna go with the lame excuse that you support them because your favourite colour is red? Be real

Youve been a fan for almost 10 years? So you started supporting 00/01 season? So the treble win 2 seasons previous and the 2 league titles the season gone, had nothing to do with it? Come on mate

Mate Ive been supporting Arsenal since 92, while we were still a big team, we wernt the biggest and regardless of our size, Arsenal is my local team. My house is 20 minutes away from Emirates and Ive been going to Highbury/Emirates since before Ian Wright was there. So Im very far from a hypocrite seeing as I support my local team, I cant help that they are successful.

I dont doubt your support now but to deny that you started supporting them for any other reason then because they were the best team, is a joke and you should stop kidding yourself.
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wait.. you're not a malaysian?

QUOTE(esca_flo @ Oct 22 2010, 11:47 PM)
Mcity ? Where got glory there ... How can one hunt glory where there is none ?
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Lol, you just made my day smile.gif

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post Oct 22 2010, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(themanguydude2 @ Oct 22 2010, 11:48 PM)
wait.. you're not a malaysian?
Afraid not. White as the rice in a mamak.
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post Oct 22 2010, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(tweedle @ Oct 22 2010, 11:47 PM)
Mate Ive been supporting Arsenal since 92, while we were still a big team
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Take the local team factor away since I'm don't have the privileged to be born in the UK..And you are saying that me being naive when I was around 10 was a lame excuse, what do you expect? Other people to come and tell me it's wrong to support a big club because it's glory hunting? My family doesn't watch football, so do my relatives and friends. In fact, I was the only one watching football back then in my circle of friends. You still don't get what glory hunting mean do you? If I'm supporting Chelsea now feel free to say I'm a glory hunting muppet as much as you like, but the truth is I'm not..United was the main reason I started watching football so I see no reason I should stop supporting them.


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QUOTE(esca_flo @ Oct 22 2010, 11:47 PM)
Mcity ? Where got glory there ... How can one hunt glory where there is none ?
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It's the "pre-glory" thing..They are hyped to dominate English football soon so might as well jump on the bandwagon now so that they won't be a
"glory hunter" when they reveal themselves to be City fans.

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post Oct 23 2010, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Oct 22 2010, 11:58 PM)
Take the local team factor away since I'm don't have the privileged to be born in the UK..And you are saying that me being naive when I was around 10 was a lame excuse, what do you expect? Other people to come and tell me it's wrong to support a big club because it's glory hunting? My family doesn't watch football, so do my relatives and friends. In fact, I was the only one watching football back then in my circle of friends. You still don't get what glory hunting mean do you? If I'm supporting Chelsea now feel free to say I'm a glory hunting muppet as much as you like, but the truth is I'm not..United was the main reason I started watching football so I see no reason I should stop supporting them.
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The term glory hunting is very easy to understand - Supporting because the club is successful and have lots of glory

Like I said, I dont doubt you support them very well these days but you began supporting them because of their glory, hence you are a glory hunter.

You dont need to switch to Chelsea. In the last 11 years Man Utd have won 2 Champions Leagues, 7 League titles, 2 FA Cups, 3 League Cups, an Intercontinental Cup and a World Club Championship so a grand total of 16 cups/leagues in 11 years. Dont act like Man United have fallen off the face of the earth since Chelsea became successful because they still won 10 of those leagues/cups since Abramovich took over in 2003. Thats probably the lamest excuse ever.

Its fine man, youre a good supporter these days but dont kid yourself or try and kid me into thinking you supported them for any other reason then that they are the top team in England.

and also, at 10 years old I was a full die hard Arsenal fan. So the whole naive thing is another lame excuse.

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QUOTE(tweedle @ Oct 23 2010, 12:07 AM)
The term glory hunting is very easy to understand - Supporting because the club is successful and have lots of glory
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Arsenal are a successful club and have lots of glory too, glory hunting much mate?

you still fail to give me a solid explanation why I didn't jump ship during the 3 year drought after Becks(which was my idol back then) left when I have every reason to go and support Chelsea when, if I'm a glory hunter, I wouldnt wait for a year not to say 3 to realise the club I was supporting was supposingly in decline..and the fact that you dismiss my explanation that I was young and naive is just as simple as me dismissing yours because you live near the Emirates and you are from North London

let me put it this way...You-live near Arsenal's stadium back then(Highbury issit?never knew football existed back then), so watch them regularly, so support them

Me-started watching football because I support a team in red, influenced by Becks being in that team, and had absolutely no idea that Manchester United were the front runners in the league until they won

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post Oct 23 2010, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Oct 23 2010, 12:19 AM)
Arsenal are a successful club and have lots of glory too, glory hunting much mate?

you still fail to give me a solid explanation why I didn't jump ship during the 3 year drought after Becks(which was my idol back then) left when I have every reason to go and support Chelsea when, if I'm a glory hunter, I wouldnt wait for a year not to say 3 to realise the club I was supporting was supposingly in decline..and the fact that you dismiss my explanation that I was young and naive is just as simple as me dismissing yours because you live near the Emirates and you are from North London
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Once again, Arsenal are my local team. How can I glory hunt my local team? That makes absolutely no sense. It probably takes me less time to get to Emirates from my house in London then it does for you to get to college/work. I fail to see how me supporting my local club can even remotely make me a glory hunter just because they are successful. Maybe if I was from near Spurs and I supported Arsenal, you could say that but Im from the North West side of London not the North East.

You didnt "jump" as you put it because no one is gonna stop supporting a team in 3 years and in those 3 years, Man United were still in the top 3, still won a league cup and a FA cup in that time. They hardly did a Leeds did they? and answer me this, would you still support Man United if they did a Leeds and went down 2 divisions to League 1? Probably not. So in that time, just because they didnt win a league title in 3 years, they hardly fell off the face of the earth, did they? Thats one of the most stupid excuses Ive probably ever heard.

and also, by your logic, I should have stopped supporting Arsenal 3 years ago but here we are....
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I started to like Arsenal when I saw their match on tv.I think by that time, there are henry,pires,david seaman or lehman, patrick viera and so on. What attracts me to the club is their playing style. I dont think myself as a glory hunter by your definition since during that time , I dont even know how many cups/league they have won. I never really watch football at all. But decided to watch the game and was completely mesmerized by their game play. Started to root for Arsenal since then.

I dont really care if Arsenal win any cup or league as long as I can enjoy their beautiful football. I do feel sad if they didnt win the game but as far as I remember, I did not follow the club because of their success. I dont even know they were "The Invisible" until few years after following them.
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QUOTE(tweedle @ Oct 23 2010, 12:34 AM)
Once again, Arsenal are my local team. How can I glory hunt my local team? That makes absolutely no sense. It probably takes me less time to get to Emirates from my house in London then it does for you to get to college/work. I fail to see how me supporting my local club can even remotely make me a glory hunter just because they are successful. Maybe if I was from near Spurs and I supported Arsenal, you could say that but Im from the North West side of London not the North East.

You didnt "jump" as you put it because no one is gonna stop supporting a team in 3 years and in those 3 years, Man United were still in the top 3, still won a league cup and a FA cup in that time. They hardly did a Leeds did they? and answer me this, would you still support Man United if they did a Leeds and went down 2 divisions to League 1? Probably not. So in that time, just because they didnt win a league title in 3 years, they hardly fell off the face of the earth, did they? Thats one of the most stupid excuses Ive probably ever heard.

and also, by your logic, I should have stopped supporting Arsenal 3 years ago but here we are....
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and again you use the local team factor..If I happen to be born in Manchester and I started to support United when they won the league, that gives me an exception of not becoming a glory hunter? If geography determines what team one should support rather than the passion they have for the team, then you need to brush up your common sense.

Sorry but winning a league cup and FA cup isn't TOO much of a success when you are Manchester United, and like I said Chelsea were poised to dominate English football, destined to win leagues year by year with the arrival of Drogba, Essien, Ballack, Shevchenko and your very own Cashley Cole just to name a few..It's the very same as Citeh now as you can see from their increasing number of fanbase around the world ever since Thaksin took charge...Or a situation like my friend where he started following English football 5 years ago and when Chelsea won then he decided he should support them..Now that's glory hunting, and very different from my situation as I've had no knowledge on money power when I start watching and supporting United..And just to add by that time the league was hardly done nor I do know how many titles they won before..And I will say this once again, if it wasn't Man Utd football, those Beckham set pieces and Scholes volleys made me fall in love with football, I wouldnt be here right now..Yet you seemed confident that everyone who supports United that time including me were because of their past glory..I would have opted for Liverpool, Leeds or even Forest based on your logic

You asked me a question and then answered it yourself, how fked up is that rclxub.gif

Not gonna reply any of your comments with your one-dimensional mentality being "he's not from Manchester and he supports United, must be a glory hunter!"

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QUOTE(tweedle @ Oct 22 2010, 08:48 PM)
Pretty much every supporter in Malaysia is a glory hunter unless you support a random midtable and lower team

You can say youve been watching so and so team since you were knee high but at the end of the day, thats because they were still successful back then

Malaysians = Glory Hunters. End of.
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It's English 101 for me. If a person has only smoked 1 cigarette in his life, could he be considered a smoker. Not to me. Calling someone a smoker suggests to me that he does it repetitively. It has to be a serial occurrence. If a fan goes from winning club to winning club consistently, this suggests to me that he is a glory hunter. Now the question the becomes what your definition of "consistently" is. Every year? Every couple of years?
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who care if you're glory hunter or not. It is not a crime. No big deal.

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